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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on March 02, 2020, 12:50:19 AM
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https://www.nation.co.ke/counties/muranga/Matiangi-fit-for-president-Jubilee-leaders-say/1183310-5474240-p2menuz/index.html
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You are chasing your own tail and that's the whole point
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You are chasing your own tail and that's the whole point
I have my dog in the fight but I am not a dog .The shallow state of Murathe and Munga are selling Matiangi.I guess they are not aware of your big plans for Uhuru as our second executive pm after his father
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The point is to keep them guessing... same way Kiunjuri or Duale doesn't know Ruto backup plan. You and I decipher the moves. The case scenario so far indicate Uhuru 2.0
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Raila gets free hand in wooing Uhuru backyard
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For the first time, it has become clear President Uhuru Kenyatta has granted Opposition leader Raila Odinga a free hand to court his Mt Kenya political bastions.
Key Uhuru allies in Mount Kenya and beyond have now turned into Raila's political associates, triggering disquiet in Deputy President William Ruto's camp.
Raila's office is coordinating the countrywide Building Bridges Initiative consultative forums and rallies with the blessings of State House.
The meetings have given the former prime minister a strategic opportunity to re-brand himself and create new allies ahead of the 2022 polls.
For the first time since campaigning for former President Mwai Kibaki in 2002, Raila was given a rousing welcome at Kinoru Stadium, Meru, with the region's top brass on hand to receive him.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-03-02-raila-gets-free-hand-to-woo-uhuru-backyard/
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Ruto seemed on edge yesterday in Western hurling unusual epiphets at Handshake : "hii mambo ya raggae, na bangi, na uganga"
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Raila gets free hand in wooing Uhuru backyard
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CC7OY5z41ytp2wRXo0j2HbMmj0KLMQ0u_1gOQcUMXpzijDEVL1OtCurShTkjGu4JvVX6T2FSAnbzBVh8Fv2Y3VNBkPcTzw=s750)
For the first time, it has become clear President Uhuru Kenyatta has granted Opposition leader Raila Odinga a free hand to court his Mt Kenya political bastions.
Key Uhuru allies in Mount Kenya and beyond have now turned into Raila's political associates, triggering disquiet in Deputy President William Ruto's camp.
Raila's office is coordinating the countrywide Building Bridges Initiative consultative forums and rallies with the blessings of State House.
The meetings have given the former prime minister a strategic opportunity to re-brand himself and create new allies ahead of the 2022 polls.
For the first time since campaigning for former President Mwai Kibaki in 2002, Raila was given a rousing welcome at Kinoru Stadium, Meru, with the region's top brass on hand to receive him.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-03-02-raila-gets-free-hand-to-woo-uhuru-backyard/
That one ended horribly as the bought crowd walked out..just imagine that..chiefs had done a lot of work and they spent a lot of money..yet by time Raila and his BBI were addressing them..the stadia was empty and few present were chanting Ruto
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Ruto seemed on edge yesterday in Western hurling unusual epiphets at Handshake : "hii mambo ya raggae, na bangi, na uganga"
On the contrary he was embolden because kuria and murkomen ended the reggae and left Raila younger tied
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The point is to keep them guessing... same way Kiunjuri or Duale doesn't know Ruto backup plan. You and I decipher the moves. The case scenario so far indicate Uhuru 2.0
Without bbi 2.0 we cannot have Uhuru 2.0 unless you're now so desperate to imagine Uhuru will run for anything
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Raila getting red carpet in Mt Kenya should really worry you and Ruto. BBI 2.0 remain with Uhuru making calls and moving all roadblocks on behalf of his facade Raila. You can play ostrich but any layman can see your boy is being hanged out to dry.
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Raila getting red carpet in Mt Kenya should really worry you and Ruto. BBI 2.0 remain with Uhuru making calls and moving all roadblocks on behalf of his facade Raila. You can play ostrich but any layman can see your boy is being hanged out to dry.
Is new song post knowing BbI 2.0 has sunk.We had kichwa tell us how Kibaki was preparing the way for Raila.it was as hilarious as you suggestion.Let wait for June ..mere 3 Months for parliamentary system with executive pm tailor made for Uhuru.
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Is new song post knowing BbI 2.0 has sunk.We had kichwa tell us how Kibaki was preparing the way for Raila.it was as hilarious as you suggestion.Let wait for June ..mere 3 Months for parliamentary system with executive pm tailor made for Uhuru.
What's really hilarious is your delusion about Uhuru coming back to Uhurutopia. After setting up all systems go against Ruto - CS's, cops, DPP, courts, governors, Mungas, name it. Now Murathe is accompanying Raila and openly saying Uhuru will not hand over to a thief.
Haji report with Exec PM has been ready since March 2008... it mere motions and PR to align forces and ensure smooth sailing in referendum. Raila is being intro'd to Mt Kenya cause he will be ceremonial PORK candidate as Uhuru get PM... voting directly for flowergirl PORK is to fool Gema about one-man one-vote. I tell you no way Kenyatta can do all the dirty work to crown Raila and Waiguru or Matiang'i. It a coalition team with himself as main power. Else we all know he is lazy, greedy, selfish and would simply cash Ruto 50% cheque.
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Yaani Raila is intro'd everywhere by governors, senators, CS's.. from Luhya, Gusii, Coast, Maa, Kamba to Mt Kenya. Ruto get mere Jumwa, Barasa, Kuria or Nyoro. Vindu vichenjanga 8) Of course now that your world has been flipped inside-out - you no longer believe in influencers... you have abandoned your own universal laws of politics. Now your new theory is that Meru will follow Kareke Mbiuki and ignore big-wigs Kiraitu and Njuki.
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"I've been sent by Uhuru to tell you those crocodiles you [Raila] encountered in River Jordan on your way to Canaan have now been neutralised by himself [Uhuru]. So, hold our hand and cross with us to the promised land.
--Meru Governor Kiraitu Murungu
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Your pesa nane political analysis just doesn't add up.influecer has to influence the ground otherwise Moi would still be a factor in Kalenjin but he isn't.When I compile MOAS I use many factors including opinion polls to cross reference which is why I get it right.Meru was huge disaster for scared governors.They can choose to conto headlong like Waiguru who is out of kirinyaga race or retreat to the people. Leaders lead by persuasion..not by force.Anti Ruto forces are unable to make a case against Ruto in GEMA.To make matters worse trying to sell Raila there is an uphill task.This is what will happen..Pro Ruto force because they have the ground will become the future and anti Ruto force the past.If you're interested in 2022 you'll have to sing Ruto kityo.
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Try read this book..how tables turn on community leaders who appears to go for selfish instead of community interest like is happening now in mt Kenya https://www.google.co.ke/amp/s/qz.com/africa/1806009/kenya-kenyatta-odinga-elite-cohesion-important-over-ethnic-rule/amp/
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The case against Ruto is being made very persuasively except you are in full ostrich mode... ati now you only watch big events. Kinoru was big event with Mt Kenya governors singing Raila. Now all fiction about chiefs vetting folks - backed up only by a single tweet from NTV :) - not a single video on YouTube of 000s being vetted. Kenyans are digital my fren - any small event is beamed FB and all over. You say ground is hostile to Uhuru while I showed you all amateur YouTube videos of Uhuru undressing Ruto & crew as ad hoc crowds cheer in Bahati and Ol Kalou.
Now the day-n-night distinction between 2012-Kibaki and Uhuru-now is:
1. Kibaki was deadbeat and retiring - Uhuru is young and going nowhere.
2. Gema 2012 had Prince Uhuru who was PEV savior facing ICC - Ruto is an alien with what great qualities now - launching projects or merely backing Uhuru? :) His PEV true colors can be aired anytime. The Raila bad name and trust deficit was created by Uhurus and Kiraitus over the years... and is being fixed as Ruto get demonized.
Mdvd vs Uhuru and Raila vs Ruto... no comparison. It why I think Kiunjuri strategy of selling Ruto is DOA. It would be easier to go for PORK himself.
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Try read this book..how tables turn on community leaders who appears to go for selfish instead of community interest like is happening now in mt Kenya https://www.google.co.ke/amp/s/qz.com/africa/1806009/kenya-kenyatta-odinga-elite-cohesion-important-over-ethnic-rule/amp/
Well if "community interest" is defined by Kuria and Nyoro you would be right. Except we know community are sheeple whose interest get spelt out to them on podium or media. BBI has run away with one-man one-vote one-shilling which is Gema key community interest.
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There videos are all over - I am surprised you haven't seen any.
https://www.facebook.com/Mtiriri/videos/10221802067584707/
Yesterday BBI in meru was not smooth as was anticipated, the ODM leader Hon. Raila Odinga addressed almost empty stadium when the residents of meru started moving out.Raila Odinga was summarizing the local issues that the BBI will address. He was received with heckling and jeers as he was addressing the rally, a group of attendees started leaving kinoru stadium.
The case against Ruto is being made very persuasively except you are in full ostrich mode... ati now you only watch big events. Kinoru was big event with Mt Kenya governors singing Raila. Now all fiction about chiefs vetting folks - backed up only by a single tweet from NTV :) - not a single video on YouTube of 000s being vetted. Kenyans are digital my fren - any small event is beamed FB and all over. You say ground is hostile to Uhuru while I showed you all amateur YouTube videos of Uhuru undressing Ruto & crew as ad hoc crowds cheer in Bahati and Ol Kalou.
Now the day-n-night distinction between 2012-Kibaki and Uhuru-now is:
1. Kibaki was deadbeat and retiring - Uhuru is young and going nowhere.
2. Gema 2012 had Prince Uhuru who was PEV savior facing ICC - Ruto is an alien with what great qualities now - launching projects or merely backing Uhuru? :) His PEV true colors can be aired anytime. The Raila bad name and trust deficit was created by Uhurus and Kiraitus over the years... and is being fixed as Ruto get demonized.
Mdvd vs Uhuru and Raila vs Ruto... no comparison. It why I think Kiunjuri strategy of selling Ruto is DOA. It would be easier to go for PORK himself.
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The GEMA sheeple don't want nothing to do with Raila. That has been very clear from day 1.The rest are details.Only sheeple in kenya you can move left right and center without questioning are Luos. The others have some debate.
Well if "community interest" is defined by Kuria and Nyoro you would be right. Except we know community are sheeple whose interest get spelt out to them on podium or media. BBI has run away with one-man one-vote one-shilling which is Gema key community interest.
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I mean videos of Gema heckling or walking out on Uhuru. It easily possible to organize a few hecklers... as in Kinoru. It why your story of chiefs vetting folks doesn't add up. Why did they stay and listen to Kiraitu and Kimemia if they are anti-BBI? Or are they just anti-Raila? These are random Kamau and Gitongas who attend rallies. Noone is being paid or careful stage-managing as you and Garliv have been spinning here. Even places like Kitui or Mombasa where Kuria get chased is just random pro-Joho or -Ngilu nobodies. Not hired thugs. Of course there is no such hostility against BBI and Raila in the alleged Ruto stronghold of Mt Kenya. Instead you claim Raila sore throat is rejection :) Sijui he has failing health?
If Mt Kenya was Ruto stronghold we would be seeing Eldoret kind of anti-BBI resistance. Or Kisumu anti-Ruto hostility. Not cheering crowds :o
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There videos are all over - I am surprised you haven't seen any.
https://www.facebook.com/Mtiriri/videos/10221802067584707/
Yesterday BBI in meru was not smooth as was anticipated, the ODM leader Hon. Raila Odinga addressed almost empty stadium when the residents of meru started moving out.Raila Odinga was summarizing the local issues that the BBI will address. He was received with heckling and jeers as he was addressing the rally, a group of attendees started leaving kinoru stadium.
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I guess all these Ruto diehards could not resist Raila charm. They should have stayed at home otherwise
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A section of the crowd at Kinoru Grounds, Meru, on Saturday, February 29, 2020
Ruto frogs made noises but were ignored by the cow
How Plan to Block Raila From Mt Kenya BBI Meeting Backfired
https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/50266-inside-plan-lock-raila-out-mtkenya-meeting
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"I've been sent by Uhuru to tell you those crocodiles you [Raila] encountered in River Jordan on your way to Canaan have now been neutralised by himself [Uhuru]. So, hold our hand and cross with us to the promised land.
--Meru Governor Kiraitu Murungu
By "crocodiles have been neutralised" Kiraitu/Uhuru meant noone will rig out Raila... Ruto goose is cooked.
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Btw you n Raila who is more naive
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Btw you n Raila who is more naive
I am pragmatic so I have advised Raila to retire as [ceremonial] PORK as his dad dreamed. Bringing back parliamentary cements his reform profile.
Of course you are more desperate than Ruto... don't worry Ruto will be Kenya's 5th Kiongozi ya Upinzani - same as Raila 5th PORK. Ruto might even be more powerful as recommended under BBI.
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Ceremonial PORK is indeed good soft landing for Raila. As you been repeatedly advising him. Heavy duties Prince Uhuru will be carrying on... until another prince come of age. Son of a peasant is DOA. Kenya might embrace such "hardworking" nobodies in 50-100 years time in future.
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Nobody is proposing such systems and you expect Haji to pull this recommendation from where.Tell you what...write an email to them about this genius idea otherwise Raila is going for PORK who is head of gov n state according to his ODM mouthpiece
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Actually several parties, governors and NGOs proposed it. E.g. Chap Chap wants PM to be majority or coalition leader -"appointed" by PORK, forms and runs cabinet, fired by 2/3. Haji has 100+ presentations from churches, NGOs and the shebang. This one-man-one-vote and PORK appointing PM has emerged suddenly to counter Ruto and Kuria propaganda that Gema will be shortchanged.
Of course we all know BBI is an orchestra that sing Uhuru song.
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All nice except you're are looking for a system where PM is not a glorified Duale but true head of gov and PORK is only the head of state. Nobody in kenya is proposing that. The fear of two centers of powers and the fear of unaccountable PM (elected only by some bribed or compromised Mps) works against parliamentary system. Tell you what parliamentary system really only work in Europe with morachies - kings - otherwise in africa - it will be civil war btw PORK and PM - unless one is clearly subservient - a glorified Duale.
It very likely we will move from US pure presidential to French semi-presidential system - if Raila can surmount the hurdles. Those hurdles are not easy.
Nobody buying parliamentary system in Kenya with Mpigs enjoying such a reputation.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Forms_of_government.svg/1920px-Forms_of_government.svg.png)
Republican forms of government:
Blue-Presidential republics with an executive presidency separate from the legislature
Yellow-Semi-presidential system with both an executive presidency and a separate head of government that leads the rest of the executive, who is appointed by the president and accountable to the legislature
Orange- Parliamentary republics with a ceremonial and non-executive president, where a separate head of government leads the executive and is dependent on the confidence of the legislature
Republics with an executive presidency elected by the legislature
Actually several parties, governors and NGOs proposed it. E.g. Chap Chap wants PM to be majority or coalition leader -"appointed" by PORK, forms and runs cabinet, fired by 2/3. Haji has 100+ presentations from churches, NGOs and the shebang. This one-man-one-vote and PORK appointing PM has emerged suddenly to counter Ruto and Kuria propaganda that Gema will be shortchanged.
Of course we all know BBI is an orchestra that sing Uhuru song.
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That map confuse red and orange which are both parliamentary. Germany, Ethiopia, India, Israel, Malaysia. italy, etc. They have no monarchs and not all in Europe.
Let wait and see why Kenyatta is doing all the heavy lifting. Not for Raila and Waiguru I tell you. Best bet is for himself which means Exec PM not semi- or Duale or such.
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It not rocket science to change katiba. A mere hapless Aukot wiith briefcase party could do it sembuse Uhuru and Raila?
Haji Report - June
Draft Bill - July
Signatures - October
Counties - January
Parliament - April
Referendum - July 2021
I hope by now you don't still think Ruto can block it in Parliament or counties or even courts. He has lost all those fronts. It is what Uhuru has been lining up between BBI 1 and now.
This long time table leaves a whole year to elections.
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It not rocket science to change katiba. A mere hapless Aukot wiith briefcase party could do it sembuse Uhuru and Raila?
Haji Report - June
Draft Bill - July
Signatures - October
Counties - January
Parliament - April
Referendum - July 2021
I hope by now you don't still think Ruto can block it in Parliament or counties or even courts. He has lost all those fronts. It is what Uhuru has been lining up between BBI 1 and now.
This long time table leaves a whole year to elections.
Your tmelines are like a clockwork and you get into June 2021.Signature collection give it three months.IEBC verification give it 3 months.Counties need 3 months.Parliament both house give it indefinite or 3 months..now you're already in June 2021.Now IEBC will need time and money to prepare for referendum including maybe official campaign period of two months..give that six months.You see we are already in 2022.We hold referendum in Q1 and election in Q2.Now I haven't factored judiciary or iebc or Ruto throwing a wrench or delaying the process for some few months.Uhuru can as well throw his legacy out of the window... because this BBI thing will be main topic till 2022.
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That map confuse red and orange which are both parliamentary. Germany, Ethiopia, India, Israel, Malaysia. italy, etc. They have no monarchs and not all in Europe.
Let wait and see why Kenyatta is doing all the heavy lifting. Not for Raila and Waiguru I tell you. Best bet is for himself which means Exec PM not semi- or Duale or such.
No evidence that Uhuru is pulling all stops in BBI.He should have been in kinoru himself
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It not rocket science to change katiba. A mere hapless Aukot wiith briefcase party could do it sembuse Uhuru and Raila?
Haji Report - June
Draft Bill - July
Signatures - October
Counties - January
Parliament - April
Referendum - July 2021
I hope by now you don't still think Ruto can block it in Parliament or counties or even courts. He has lost all those fronts. It is what Uhuru has been lining up between BBI 1 and now.
This long time table leaves a whole year to elections.
Your tmelines are like a clockwork and you get into June 2021.Signature collection give it three months.IEBC verification give it 3 months.Counties need 3 months.Parliament both house give it indefinite or 3 months..now you're already in June 2021.Now IEBC will need time and money to prepare for referendum including maybe official campaign period of two months..give that six months.You see we are already in 2022.We hold referendum in Q1 and election in Q2.Now I haven't factored judiciary or iebc or Ruto throwing a wrench or delaying the process for some few months.Uhuru can as well throw his legacy out of the window... because this BBI thing will be main topic till 2022.
If you read carefully you will see I have allocated 3 months everywhere. Parliament under Uhuru and Raila can pass in a week. Remember even rejection trigger referendum. MPs and Mdvds eyeing DPM or CS will back it of course.
Ukur Yattani already has IEBC budget which Ichung'wa will be outvoted in budget committee. MPs care first and foremost about themselves - so parliamentary not gutting their numbers is almost unanimous. Aukot was DOA. As you saw during Waititu hanging even Lusaka or Murkomen cannot save Ruto without numbers.
I hope Ruto has No buget... you can recycle 2010 tee shirt :) He wind up with 25% and obviously get wiped out of Mt Kenya.
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Budget takes 6 months usually because there is no urgency. Now with BBI coalition of everyone but Ruto... 2 weeks.
Aukot and Gusii lady professor Gesicho Moraa something - already ran to court claiming BBI is illegal. Your stale legalism :) - Justice Weldon Korir didn't blink before throwing it into dustbin with cost.
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Before responding to rest - when did Yattani budget for referendum. IEBC don't even have funds to do boundary reviews. IEBC need at least 15B for the referendum.
If you read carefully you will see I have allocated 3 months everywhere. Parliament under Uhuru and Raila can pass in a week. Remember even rejection trigger referendum. MPs and Mdvds eyeing DPM or CS will back it of course.
Ukur Yattani already has IEBC budget which Ichung'wa will be outvoted in budget committee. MPs care first and foremost about themselves - so parliamentary not gutting their numbers is almost unanimous. Aukot was DOA. As you saw during Waititu hanging even Lusaka or Murkomen cannot save Ruto without numbers.
I hope Ruto has No buget... you can recycle 2010 tee shirt :) He wind up with 25% and obviously get wiped out of Mt Kenya.
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No evidence that Uhuru is pulling all stops in BBI.He should have been in kinoru himself
That Raila and Ruto KYM legwork ... their dogfight while Uhuru remain above board. Those governors, senators and machinery are clearly Uhuru hand.
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Supplementary budget get passed now and then for ad hoc items. Parliament merely debate and approve, alter or reject. Ukur Yattani has cash flow all the time it about priority. BBI of course is a national discourse so it P1.
Before responding to rest - when did Yattani budget for referendum. IEBC don't even have funds to do boundary reviews. IEBC need at least 15B for the referendum.
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Okay - I get you - except parliament actually makes the budget - not Yattan and not Uhuru. Kimani Ichungwa is the man whose committee make the budget. And that budget making is political - and if Jubilee majority - don't like something - it won't happen. I don't think Jubilee are in the mood for a referendum now or next year that could divide it.
That is an example of a hurdle that a referendum has to surmount.
Budget committee and the main house.
And before that - it has to pass through the HBC - house business committee - to be introduced.
Supplementary budget get passed now and then for ad hoc items. Parliament merely debate and approve, alter or reject. Ukur Yattani has cash flow all the time it about priority. BBI of course is a national discourse so it P1.
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You talking like there is anything called "Jubilee" with resolutions. It depends on NUMBERS - how many pro- and anti-BBI MPs are in the budet committee? Or HBC? Ruto does not have a majority - we know that. You been peddling that lie but what happened in Senate Waititu impeachment for example? Ruto could only master 11 vs 28 senators. There has been no standoff yet in parliament because Ruto knows he would come up short and be exposed. So he mainatain the lie of imaginary majority and fake Jubilee unity. Why approve Kagwes., Yattanis, Wavinyas for example? When they replace his fired crew. :) He badly needs the unbwogable facade - which been crambling since the Kibra burukenge beating and is now being exposed in Central.
So... Ichung'wa is a minority in Handshake parliament. Budget will be done and passed easy peasy.
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Pundit we been wondering aloud why Ruto crew cannot censure Matiang'i? He abuse power and undermine DP Ruto his senior - and many transgressions. Or Kibicho. I mean besides maintaining the laughable Jubilee tuko pamoja charade... they obviously have no numbers so save the embarrassment.
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Hiyo ndio inaitwo nuclear option. You should also wonder why Uhuru has not sacked Ruto crew in gov - executive and parliament. Ruto knows he has to respect Uhuru for GEMA sake. So most of time he will turn the other cheek. As long as Uhuru slaps are feeble. Moi got physically slapped and survived.
That big difference btw Ruto *who understudied Moi and Raila. Why get into a war with someone who is going home :D :D. That is wasting bonga points. Ruto remain laser-focused on Jakom - his main competitor.
And that is why Ruto is doing pretty well - he just need to survive 2020 - and 2021 - nobody will give a damn about Matiangi or Kibicho leave alone Uhuru. People will be look at new gov...the next decade.
Pundit we been wondering aloud why Ruto crew cannot censure Matiang'i? He abuse power and undermine DP Ruto his senior - and many transgressions. Or Kibicho. I mean besides maintaining the laughable Jubilee tuko pamoja charade... they obviously have no numbers so save the embarrassment.
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You don't need to be a mathematician to know Ruto enjoys the majority of MPs. Jubilee has 140 elected MPs and 30 women rep plus a few affiliated. That is nearly 200mps. Of that Kieleweke are 10.
If there is no hurdle in parliament - why not take BBI there and be done straight away.
You talking like there is anything called "Jubilee" with resolutions. It depends on NUMBERS - how many pro- and anti-BBI MPs are in the budet committee? Or HBC? Ruto does not have a majority - we know that. You been peddling that lie but what happened in Senate Waititu impeachment for example? Ruto could only master 11 vs 28 senators. There has been no standoff yet in parliament because Ruto knows he would come up short and be exposed. So he mainatain the lie of imaginary majority and fake Jubilee unity. Why approve Kagwes., Yattanis, Wavinyas for example? When they replace his fired crew. :) He badly needs the unbwogable facade - which been crambling since the Kibra burukenge beating and is now being exposed in Central.
So... Ichung'wa is a minority in Handshake parliament. Budget will be done and passed easy peasy.
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Uhuru has not fired Ruto crew for sound reasons
1. Parliament Murkomen and Washialis - Ruto has a majority of Jubilee MPs but not Parliament. Party resolution is needed to replace them. If it was plenary motions they would be fired.
2. CSs, CASs, Ambassadors - they are loyal to Uhuru so no need to be fired. Being seconded by Ruto is not the issue but loyalty say in public speeches - for instance Kiunjuri showed loyalty to Ruto so he was kicked out. Obviously you can claim he was Uhuru man - which is nonsense. Rotich, Echesa, Adan of course were shown the door. CS are either openly pro-Handshake ala Matiang'i, Macharia, Mucheru or walk on eggs. Those that are apolitical such as ambassador it pointless to fire them.
3. En masse firing would give Ruto victim and outsider cards.. so even loyalists must be dealt by attrition as they "underperform" like Adan or graft like Rotich. Uhuru need excuse for strategic reason not fear of MAD.
Of course you accept Ruto is caged and cannot do MAD. But that restricted only to say openly insulting Uhuru like Murathes and Atwolis do to him. Cause he immediately lose Gema.. which sadly he is still losing anyway. Censuring Kibicho or rejecting Kagwe would not be nuclear - mere soft punches - Ruto cannot do it cause no numbers.
The Waititu matter you cannot explain away.. numbers 101.
Hiyo ndio inaitwo nuclear option. You should also wonder why Uhuru has not sacked Ruto crew in gov - executive and parliament. Ruto knows he has to respect Uhuru for GEMA sake. So most of time he will turn the other cheek. As long as Uhuru slaps are feeble. Moi got physically slapped and survived.
That big difference btw Ruto *who understudied Moi and Raila. Why get into a war with someone who is going home :D :D. That is wasting bonga points. Ruto remain laser-focused on Jakom - his main competitor.
And that is why Ruto is doing pretty well - he just need to survive 2020 - and 2021 - nobody will give a damn about Matiangi or Kibicho leave alone Uhuru. People will be look at new gov...the next decade.
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There are suicidal differences between Moi's 70s succession and Ruto' current battles. We give Moi too much credit for the 70s succession.
Moi had a senile Jomo prodding him or a Jomo who was just ignoring the Kiambu Mafia's poison. Njonjo who was also a key cog in the Kiambu mafia was Moi's babysitter.
Ruto is having to contend with a fair weather though drunk sailor who is entertaining the too young to retire nonsense; resurrected Raila; an overzealous Matiang'i/Kibicho mob; weaponized ODPP& DCI; nosediving economy. Ruto's key weapon is that his thuggish opponents stick to the constitution and play by the rule for the numbers to count.
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So how many senators does Ruto control for example? Of 10 Mt Kenya senators 5 are Kieleweke - that half. Jubilee MPs are maybe 60% Ruto... 10% noisy Kieleweke - the rest are quietly Handshake when push come to shove. Ruto 60% Jubilee comes to 120. NASA is Handshake except Jumwa and Jicho Pevu.
You don't need to be a mathematician to know Ruto enjoys the majority of MPs. Jubilee has 140 elected MPs and 30 women rep plus a few affiliated. That is nearly 200mps. Of that Kieleweke are 10.
If there is no hurdle in parliament - why not take BBI there and be done straight away.
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There are suicidal differences between Moi's 70s succession and Ruto' current battles. We give Moi too much credit for the 70s succession.
Moi had a senile Jomo prodding him or a Jomo who was just ignoring the Kiambu Mafia's poison. Njonjo who was also a key cog in the Kiambu mafia was Moi's babysitter.
Ruto is having to contend with a fair weather though drunk sailor who is entertaining the too young to retire nonsense; resurrected Raila; an overzealous Matiang'i/Kibicho mob; weaponized ODPP& DCI; nosediving economy. Ruto's key weapon is that his thuggish opponents stick to the constitution and play by the rule for the numbers to count.
Mbuyu Koinange was Jomo brother in law and Magana was Kenyatta nephew both powerful and educated kiambu mafia who wanted Moi out.GEMA was led by illeterates but backed by kiambu mafia.It wasn't easy.Ask Tom Mboya or JM kariuku.Moi had to play the patience game like Ruto is playing.You cannot trip.Now Ruto battle is easy...very easy..only Raila knows politics..Uhuru,Matiangi and crew don't.Ruto has to play nice for another year and then take the battle...in any case Ruto has long prepared for this..so it actually easy than you think..if you ignore tall theories about Uhuru executive pork..and focus on Uhuru padding his retirement check...and quietly leaving folks to dry..as the most plausible theory
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Uhuru has not fired Ruto crew for sound reasons
1. Parliament Murkomen and Washialis - Ruto has a majority of Jubilee MPs but not Parliament. Party resolution is needed to replace them. If it was plenary motions they would be fired.
2. CSs, CASs, Ambassadors - they are loyal to Uhuru so no need to be fired. Being seconded by Ruto is not the issue but loyalty say in public speeches - for instance Kiunjuri showed loyalty to Ruto so he was kicked out. Obviously you can claim he was Uhuru man - which is nonsense. Rotich, Echesa, Adan of course were shown the door. CS are either openly pro-Handshake ala Matiang'i, Macharia, Mucheru or walk on eggs. Those that are apolitical such as ambassador it pointless to fire them.
3. En masse firing would give Ruto victim and outsider cards.. so even loyalists must be dealt by attrition as they "underperform" like Adan or graft like Rotich. Uhuru need excuse for strategic reason not fear of MAD.
Of course you accept Ruto is caged and cannot do MAD. But that restricted only to say openly insulting Uhuru like Murathes and Atwolis do to him. Cause he immediately lose Gema.. which sadly he is still losing anyway. Censuring Kibicho or rejecting Kagwe would not be nuclear - mere soft punches - Ruto cannot do it cause no numbers.
The Waititu matter you cannot explain away.. numbers 101.
Hiyo ndio inaitwo nuclear option. You should also wonder why Uhuru has not sacked Ruto crew in gov - executive and parliament. Ruto knows he has to respect Uhuru for GEMA sake. So most of time he will turn the other cheek. As long as Uhuru slaps are feeble. Moi got physically slapped and survived.
That big difference btw Ruto *who understudied Moi and Raila. Why get into a war with someone who is going home :D :D. That is wasting bonga points. Ruto remain laser-focused on Jakom - his main competitor.
And that is why Ruto is doing pretty well - he just need to survive 2020 - and 2021 - nobody will give a damn about Matiangi or Kibicho leave alone Uhuru. People will be look at new gov...the next decade.
long spin..C's Adan Mohammed still a minister.Rotich is Uhuru man.Kiunjuri n Echesa have been fired...and replaced by my clans woman Betty Maina and Kagwe.We agreed that if BBI has nothing on executive pm then theory of Uhuru trying to run again falls flat. We know from Bomas it didn't.We now wait for obvious because nobody has asked for executive pm except drunkard Atwoli and murathe.political punditry is that easy.Start adjusting your theories.It appears if BBI 2.0 has nothing substantial for Uhuru then Uhuru is stringing along Raila with fake war against Ruto.It kill two birds with one stone by pitying Raila against Ruto so you eat in peace and occasionally throw them a bone when they are about to stop.That to me is the game here.Eventually he will slide away with 10% of Kenya budget the next 5yrs and leave you to fight your wars.He certainly ain't going back to Hague for nobody.
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Do you know how many theories you have? You must lose track now and then. At least mine is a constant. You can say BBI 1 flopped but almost immediately they kick-started 2. Nothing to concede.
They are playing Raila bla bla. Now it Uhuru retirement package.
The stops Uhuru is pulling to uproot Ruto from the mountain remain a big indicator. No PEV will occur cause Uhuru 2.0. PEV was enabled by non-Gema unity where Luo provide political cover for Kalenjin warriors. Raila or Ruto on each their own cannot manage that without serious quences for themselves.
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I came up with your copy-paste BBI theory way back in 2017. You know I have studied your politicians. Your BBI has no legs to stand on because 1) BBI 1.0 and 2) I haven't seen anybody calling for it - ODM Raila got distracted by the crowds he has attracted from Kisii to Kakamega to name it - and abandoned it :) That is Raila for you. He pressured Uhuru to do BBI 2.0 validation and Uhuru agreed - and when crowds got excited - Raila's ODM got greedy and want the entire thing - PORK (head of gov and state).
It will be pure magic if Yusuf Haji pulls it from his camels in Ijara :). If Uhuru wants it - now is the time to ask it. He will ask it through his mouthpieces.
My theories - On Uhuru gameplan.
2016 - when URP & TNA merged into Jubilee - I saw it a strong coupling that meant Uhuru & mt Kenya were now ready to have Ruto as pork. The marriage had been consummated.
2017 - When I saw role Kiunjuri played in the famous purge against Mt Kenya old guards and Uhuru prevailing him not to stand - I thought they had made a deal.
2018 - When Uhuru appointed cabinet without reference to Ruto and even seem to dropped Kiunjuri - I thought he wasn't planning to retire.
2018 - When handshake happen - I thought he was playing Raila so he just stopped demos - but he won't get into gov. That theory still holds.
2019 - When BBI gathered steam - I thought Uhuru was entertaining a bad idea of executive PM. When BBI 1.0 was unleashed - that theory cease to hold.
2020 - We are seeing even ODM who called for this BBI 2.0 - actually abandoning BBI 2.0 :) and nobody else has suggested this executive PM. Not even MaDVD or Kalonzo.
2020 - June you'll get BBI 2.0. If it similar to BBI 1.0 - then for sure - Uhuru will be retiring.
2020 - We will then have two theories going forward - Pajero/Waiguru theory that Mt Kenya will present their candidate - or Ruto will get Uhuru backing as promised.
Too many theories. Kichwa and Robina will think until election day that Uhuru is preparing the way for Joshua.
Do you know how many theories you have? You must lose track now and then. At least mine is a constant. You can say BBI 1 flopped but almost immediately they kick-started 2. Nothing to concede.
They are playing Raila bla bla. Now it Uhuru retirement package. The stops Uhuru is pulling to uproot Ruto from the mountain remain a big indicator. No PEV will occur cause Uhuru 2.0. PEV was enabled by non-Gema unity where Luo provide political cover for Kalenjin warriors. Raila or Ruto on each their own cannot manage that without serious quences for themselves.
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You underrate Raila and Uhuru even more. They are not fools in fact Uhuru play his cards stealthily while everyone knows Ruto's plan. Now he has been edged out of most non-Gema and desperately need the mountain. It a fight to the death for him literally.
Now, if Raila has abandoned parliamentary why would Uhuru still pull stops for him. All those governors Raila has no wherewithal to deploy them so hard. Or intimidate them as you allege.
Simple: uprooting Ruto from Gema is key. So the Gema fears must be assuaged. So after the farmer goodies now one-man-one-vote one-shilling, elected PORK is head of state and govt, youth to be purged from CRB, etc - are suddenly top on the BBI agenda and Raila unwittingly plays along. Obviously it a sleight of hand to blindside Ruto. Poof! the wind is gone from Tangatanga sail.
I told you the Queen of England is an absolute monarch. C-in-C, veto powers, spiritual leader. But in reality PM must be appointed from the majority party or coalition - she merely "appoints" him on paper. PM appoints and runs cabinet and is the de facto head of UK govt. So of course some layman will say the Windsors are a monarchy - same as Manzil al Saud - but in fact Britain is effectively a parliamentary system wrapped in Lords, Dukes, Sirs and pompous gold- plated antiques.
In BBI 2, ceremonial PORK will be elected as head of state, govt, C-in-C, etc. He then name PM from largest party or coalition. PM name and run cabinet. Tobe fired by 2/3. Boom! Gema and all are happy as Ruto go home high and dry.
I came up with your copy-paste BBI theory way back in 2017. You know I have studied your politicians. Your BBI has no legs to stand on because 1) BBI 1.0 and 2) I haven't seen anybody calling for it - ODM Raila got distracted by the crowds he has attracted from Kisii to Kakamega to name it - and abandoned it :) That is Raila for you. He pressured Uhuru to do BBI 2.0 validation and Uhuru agreed - and when crowds got excited - Raila's ODM got greedy and want the entire thing - PORK (head of gov and state).
It will be pure magic if Yusuf Haji pulls it from his camels in Ijara :). If Uhuru wants it - now is the time to ask it. He will ask it through his mouthpieces.
Lots of guesswork. From Raila and Ruto cards - Uhuru cards are ignored. Where is the factoring of the heavy lifting? In BBI 1 parliamentary was deferred to create window to counter Ruto propaganda. Kuria, Kioni, Gachagua were fever-pitch with Gema are being short-changed. In Nov to now Uhuru has fired Kiunjuri, Waititu, etc and lined up Kiraitus proper. He is done this fairly successfully.
Meantime Raila has lined up non-Gema - again with Uhuru help. Lenkus and Matiang'is and Mdvds are cajoled by Uhuru obviously. In Kakamega they said Uhuru personally pressured Mdvd and Weta to attend. Broke Kalonzo get bribed with Muthoka handouts and Wavinya CAS and parastatal chairmen for his cronies.
My theory remains the same. I am impressed by the smart strategy to deal with Ruto propaganda ala parliamentary. Once Gema back BBI - more MPs, more cash - it pipedream to get them back. Ruto will face Uhuru-Raila combo which will be worse than NARC vs Kanu.
My theories - On Uhuru gameplan.
2016 - when URP & TNA merged into Jubilee - I saw it a strong coupling that meant Uhuru & mt Kenya were now ready to have Ruto as pork. The marriage had been consummated.
2017 - When I saw role Kiunjuri played in the famous purge against Mt Kenya old guards and Uhuru prevailing him not to stand - I thought they had made a deal.
2018 - When Uhuru appointed cabinet without reference to Ruto and even seem to dropped Kiunjuri - I thought he wasn't planning to retire.
2018 - When handshake happen - I thought he was playing Raila so he just stopped demos - but he won't get into gov. That theory still holds.
2019 - When BBI gathered steam - I thought Uhuru was entertaining a bad idea of executive PM. When BBI 1.0 was unleashed - that theory cease to hold.
2020 - We are seeing even ODM who called for this BBI 2.0 - actually abandoning BBI 2.0 :) and nobody else has suggested this executive PM. Not even MaDVD or Kalonzo.
2020 - June you'll get BBI 2.0. If it similar to BBI 1.0 - then for sure - Uhuru will be retiring.
2020 - We will then have two theories going forward - Pajero/Waiguru theory that Mt Kenya will present their candidate - or Ruto will get Uhuru backing as promised.
Hubris is not a strategy. Pundit just as Ruto is Regular Joe riding out his luck.
Too many theories. Kichwa and Robina will think until election day that Uhuru is preparing the way for Joshua.
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So in summary you're saying BBI 2.0 aka parliamentary system is still on course. I ask you again - come June 2020 - 3 months from now - when it doesn't happen. What will be your new theory or spin?
After Raila who cried for BBI 2.0 and restarted this campaigns for BBI 2.0 abandoned it - your new spin is why is Uhuru supporting BBI 2.0?
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-29-jitters-in-odm-as-raila-abandons-reform-agenda/
Uhuru "support" BBI 1.0 - nothing suggest so far that he is support BBI 2.0 - and of course he is a system - some of his people are threatening governors to back BBI - those are likes of Matiangi and Kibicho with their own succession plans.
Again it very easy. Tell us - we get to June - there is no parliamentary - we have PORK as head of state and gov - what will be the new desperation?
Will you give Uhuru another 2yrs free ride in the hope he will endorse Raila for non-Ceremonial PORK and take Duale current job :D :D
Or you''ll describe the new system parliamentary anyway because it has PM :)
The spin that Uhuru hid some cards to later disclose in six months is crazy - Uhuru had no such plans - he is no Machievelli
Raila and Atwolis (Uhuru orphans) were unhappy - and put pressure for another BBI 2.0 validation for another six months ride.
Uhuru says game on - lets enjoy the ride. I am sure even in June - he will find something to extend the honeymoon with Raila - and then like Kibaki in 2013 - he will leave him to be devoured.
As long as people are engrossed in BBI - Uhuru is very happy. He stays under water - feasting. Once in a while he emerges and ask governors to listen to Raila and keep the reggae playing
You underrate Raila and Uhuru even more. They are not fools in fact Uhuru play his cards stealthily while everyone knows Ruto's plan. Now he has been edged out of most non-Gema and desperately need the mountain. It a fight to the death for him literally.
Now, if Raila has abandoned parliamentary why would Uhuru still pull stops for him. All those governors Raila has no wherewithal to deploy them so hard. Or intimidate them as you allege.
Simple: uprooting Ruto from Gema is key. So the Gema fears must be assuaged. So after the farmer goodies now one-man-one-vote one-shilling, elected PORK is head of state and govt, youth to be purged from CRB, etc - are suddenly top on the BBI agenda and Raila unwittingly plays along. Obviously it a sleight of hand to blindside Ruto. Poof! the wind is gone from Tangatanga sail.
I told you the Queen of England is an absolute monarch. C-in-C, veto powers, spiritual leader. But in reality PM must be appointed from the majority party or coalition - she merely "appoints" him on paper. PM appoints and runs cabinet and is the de facto head of UK govt. So of course some layman will say the Windsors are a monarchy - same as Manzil al Saud - but in fact Britain is effectively a parliamentary system wrapped in Lords, Dukes, Sirs and pompous gold- plated antiques.
In BBI 2, ceremonial PORK will be elected as head of state, govt, C-in-C, etc. He then name PM from largest party or coalition. PM name and run cabinet. Tobe fired by 2/3. Boom! Gema and all are happy as Ruto go home high and dry.
I came up with your copy-paste BBI theory way back in 2017. You know I have studied your politicians. Your BBI has no legs to stand on because 1) BBI 1.0 and 2) I haven't seen anybody calling for it - ODM Raila got distracted by the crowds he has attracted from Kisii to Kakamega to name it - and abandoned it :) That is Raila for you. He pressured Uhuru to do BBI 2.0 validation and Uhuru agreed - and when crowds got excited - Raila's ODM got greedy and want the entire thing - PORK (head of gov and state).
It will be pure magic if Yusuf Haji pulls it from his camels in Ijara :). If Uhuru wants it - now is the time to ask it. He will ask it through his mouthpieces.
Lots of guesswork. From Raila and Ruto cards - Uhuru cards are ignored. Where is the factoring of the heavy lifting? In BBI 1 parliamentary was deferred to create window to counter Ruto propaganda. Kuria, Kioni, Gachagua were fever-pitch with Gema are being short-changed. In Nov to now Uhuru has fired Kiunjuri, Waititu, etc and lined up Kiraitus proper. He is done this fairly successfully.
Meantime Raila has lined up non-Gema - again with Uhuru help. Lenkus and Matiang'is and Mdvds are cajoled by Uhuru obviously. In Kakamega they said Uhuru personally pressured Mdvd and Weta to attend. Broke Kalonzo get bribed with Muthoka handouts and Wavinya CAS and parastatal chairmen for his cronies.
My theory remains the same. I am impressed by the smart strategy to deal with Ruto propaganda ala parliamentary. Once Gema back BBI - more MPs, more cash - it pipedream to get them back. Ruto will face Uhuru-Raila combo which will be worse than NARC vs Kanu.
My theories - On Uhuru gameplan.
2016 - when URP & TNA merged into Jubilee - I saw it a strong coupling that meant Uhuru & mt Kenya were now ready to have Ruto as pork. The marriage had been consummated.
2017 - When I saw role Kiunjuri played in the famous purge against Mt Kenya old guards and Uhuru prevailing him not to stand - I thought they had made a deal.
2018 - When Uhuru appointed cabinet without reference to Ruto and even seem to dropped Kiunjuri - I thought he wasn't planning to retire.
2018 - When handshake happen - I thought he was playing Raila so he just stopped demos - but he won't get into gov. That theory still holds.
2019 - When BBI gathered steam - I thought Uhuru was entertaining a bad idea of executive PM. When BBI 1.0 was unleashed - that theory cease to hold.
2020 - We are seeing even ODM who called for this BBI 2.0 - actually abandoning BBI 2.0 :) and nobody else has suggested this executive PM. Not even MaDVD or Kalonzo.
2020 - June you'll get BBI 2.0. If it similar to BBI 1.0 - then for sure - Uhuru will be retiring.
2020 - We will then have two theories going forward - Pajero/Waiguru theory that Mt Kenya will present their candidate - or Ruto will get Uhuru backing as promised.
Hubris is not a strategy. Pundit just as Ruto is Regular Joe riding out his luck.
Too many theories. Kichwa and Robina will think until election day that Uhuru is preparing the way for Joshua.
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Your explanation of the heavy lifting is implausible. Why not just cash desperate Ruto 50% cheque? It nonsense that somehow Ruto without Handshake stop him from feasting... which big ticket projects is Uhuru feasting from? What stop Ruto thru Kurias from exposing him?
You can't quote retarded Star analyst to decipher Uhuru cards. Uhuru is a chameleon - Machiavelli in fact - who praise Ruto as ndugu yangu the greatest deputy while planning Handshake and Uhuru 2.0 all along.
BBI 2.0 - it will have fake hybrid to fool Gema. With PORK as C-in-C, "head" of state and govt, "appoints" PM from largest party. PM appoints and runs cabinet and can be "fired" by PORK but only if 2/3 MPs agree. :) Effectively the Queen of England complete with pompous mansions, potraits and crowns. That is the standard parliamentary system - symbolic power held by PORK while the PM and parliament run the show.
Let's see in June. The Star will troll us with shallow nonsense but we can decipher the real power here. If we can at least be honest.
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I see you're already looking for a soft landing and will describe the hybrid system as parliamentary.
the kind of desperation we've come to expect from you and Raila.So GEMA will elect Raila as pork who will be head of gov and state so he can later appoint Uhuru as glorified Duale.Crazy thoughts.In meantime seem treasury have no plans for referendum soon... according to their policy paper.
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BBI 2.0 will be a written report and referendum bill we can all read - no need for spin on either our parts. We can objectively tell pure presidential, proper hybrid or fake hybrid (parliamentary). Just as we can objectively tell Uhurutopia and Jubilee is dead as dodo. Let wait.
Also, if it fake hybrid (parliamentary) Uhuru will gun for PM... by becoming Handshake Party Leader. He obviously won't go for Duale job.
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I see you're already planning to continue with reggae till Ruto is sworn in 2022. I knew you'd change the definition as it become obviously parliamentary was out. Now let try proper hybrid but I will also take fake hybrid. My head is already spinning - are in BBI 4.0 already.
Okay let us be clear...I don't see a referendum happening. It's not in Uhuru interest to hold one just like it's not in his interest to become Duale. He is not as desperate as you or Raila.
What is in Uhuru best interest is to steal as much as he can now and leave a good enough legacy - then retire - and remain respected grand thief like his father.
If he allows BBI regae to graduate to a referendum - then politicking will not stop soon - and he won't be able to steal silently - because he'd have to actual make a move.
If referendum happen before 2022 - and GEMA don't support Ruto side - then 2022 will be like 2007 - full blown war in rift valley.Kalenjin are happy to let Uhuru play as long as he does move the cheese. He calls a referendum - and it either two ways - he convinced GEMA and he raptures the peace in RV (And the amigos will be back to ICC as Raila rules.)- he fails and GEMA vote with RV - and he is GONE like Moi (rejected and dejected).
So you don't want that to happen...so BBI if I am not wrong will be allowed for everyone to express their idiotic ideas....pressure releases....and make all sorts of resolutions..and eventually like the rest of reports...SHELVED.
BBI 2.0 will be a written report and referendum bill we can all read - no need for spin on either our parts. We can objectively tell pure presidential, proper hybrid or fake hybrid (parliamentary). Just as we can objectively tell Uhurutopia and Jubilee is dead as dodo. Let wait.
Also, if it fake hybrid (parliamentary) Uhuru will gun for PM... by becoming Handshake Party Leader. He obviously won't go for Duale job.
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OBJECTIVES
1. Presidential - status quo or BBI 1 with token PM (Duale) - what ODM proposed last week. PORK appoints and fires PM and cabinet.
2. Hybrid proper - PM is appointed and fired by PORK but PM appoints, runs and fires cabinet.
3. Parliamentary (fake hybrid) - PM is majority leader. Appoints, runs and fires cabinet. Fired by 2/3.
PORK would be C-in-C every time. For parliamentary the title of "head of state and govt" is a gift wrapper for Wanjiku and Pundit - meaningless without the meat or context.
If there will be no referendum we will also know soon enough. Uhuru best interest is to continue as CEO - Exec PM.
I see you're already planning to continue with reggae till Ruto is sworn in 2022. I knew you'd change the definition as it become obviously parliamentary was out. Now let try proper hybrid but I will also take fake hybrid. My head is already spinning - are in BBI 4.0 already.
Okay let us be clear...I don't see a referendum happening. It's not in Uhuru interest to hold one just like it's not in his interest to become Duale. He is not as desperate as you or Raila.
What is in Uhuru best interest is to steal as much as he can now and leave a good enough legacy - then retire - and remain respected grand thief like his father.
If he allows BBI regae to graduate to a referendum - then politicking will not stop soon - and he won't be able to steal silently - because he'd have to actual make a move.
Lol. There will be no PEV 2 - Ruto may be as desperate as Pundit but not stupid or suicidal. It would be a golden shower for Uhuru but especially Raila. Not happening.
If referendum happen before 2022 - and GEMA don't support Ruto side - then 2022 will be like 2007 - full blown war in rift valley.Kalenjin are happy to let Uhuru play as long as he does move the cheese. He calls a referendum - and it either two ways - he convinced GEMA and he raptures the peace in RV (And the amigos will be back to ICC as Raila rules.)- he fails and GEMA vote with RV - and he is GONE like Moi (rejected and dejected).
So you don't want that to happen...so BBI if I am not wrong will be allowed for everyone to express their idiotic ideas....pressure releases....and make all sorts of resolutions..and eventually like the rest of reports...SHELVED.
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High Court throws out Ekuru Aukot petition to disband BBI team
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/BBI-team-valid-court-rules/1950946-5478318-9jb3utz/index.html
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Okay let's be clear - nobody is calling for hybrid of any sort - fake or proper - except Duale. All of them are clear in their submission. PORK will remain head of state and gov. PORK will appoint all ministers including prime ministers. Prime minister will be a glorified Duale - majority leader in parliament who also sits in cabinet - but really has no portfolio - neither can he fire or suspend cabinet - will just have
fake supervisory and coordinating role. I am not even sure if he will chair cabinet.
I don't think Ruto or Uhuru can control the genie (tribal clashes) once it out. It like trying to control the soon inevitable clashes btw Kipsisigs and Maasai. It will happen. It just a matter of what trigger
its.
So the Amigos bet make sure the genie is not out. It will be out once a typical kalenjin and Kikuyu are going at each other online like here. Then leaders will be going against each other at all levels. And
OBJECTIVES
1. Presidential - status quo or BBI 1 with token PM (Duale) - what ODM proposed last week. PORK appoints and fires PM and cabinet.
2. Hybrid proper - PM is appointed and fired by PORK but PM appoints, runs and fires cabinet.
3. Parliamentary (fake hybrid) - PM is majority leader. Appoints, runs and fires cabinet. Fired by 2/3.
PORK would be C-in-C every time. For parliamentary the title of "head of state and govt" is a gift wrapper for Wanjiku and Pundit - meaningless without the meat or context.
If there will be no referendum we will also know soon enough. Uhuru best interest is to continue as CEO - Exec PM.
I see you're already planning to continue with reggae till Ruto is sworn in 2022. I knew you'd change the definition as it become obviously parliamentary was out. Now let try proper hybrid but I will also take fake hybrid. My head is already spinning - are in BBI 4.0 already.
Okay let us be clear...I don't see a referendum happening. It's not in Uhuru interest to hold one just like it's not in his interest to become Duale. He is not as desperate as you or Raila.
What is in Uhuru best interest is to steal as much as he can now and leave a good enough legacy - then retire - and remain respected grand thief like his father.
If he allows BBI regae to graduate to a referendum - then politicking will not stop soon - and he won't be able to steal silently - because he'd have to actual make a move.
Lol. There will be no PEV 2 - Ruto may be as desperate as Pundit but not stupid or suicidal. It would be a golden shower for Uhuru but especially Raila. Not happening.
If referendum happen before 2022 - and GEMA don't support Ruto side - then 2022 will be like 2007 - full blown war in rift valley.Kalenjin are happy to let Uhuru play as long as he does move the cheese. He calls a referendum - and it either two ways - he convinced GEMA and he raptures the peace in RV (And the amigos will be back to ICC as Raila rules.)- he fails and GEMA vote with RV - and he is GONE like Moi (rejected and dejected).
So you don't want that to happen...so BBI if I am not wrong will be allowed for everyone to express their idiotic ideas....pressure releases....and make all sorts of resolutions..and eventually like the rest of reports...SHELVED.
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Those calls for BBI 1 are strategy to assuage Gema. Including one-man one-vote and the youth welfare they plagiarized from Tangatanga in Naivasha. They are running away with Tangatanga ball and once they nail them, Exec PM will fly under the radar of elected PORK as head of state and govt. We know BBI is choreographed with predetermined outcome. Uhuru parrots - Murathe, Atwoli - are still telling us he is going to be PM. But his bigger mouthpieces have switched to BB1 because it is key to assuage Mt Kenya.
Your take that Raila greed after watching BBI crowds is the reason is implausible. Because he needs Uhuru and cannot betray him and lose vantage point against Ruto. He has outdone himself in kowtowing to Uhuru I don't see him messing it that easy. Uhuru is behind all the sudden change of tune by ODM and shebang - esp Raila seeming to embrace one-man one-vote.
This is last minute jujitsu move by Obama that propped Biden. Uhuru is playing a good game and your boy is in trouble.
PEV - I don't think peace in RV or Ruto ambition is more useful than democracy. If it spontaneous or unsponsored by the elite then those warriors or Mungiki would be mere murderers and will hang on their own. Ruto wouldn't go back to ICC if he didn't engineer it. Kalenjin would not have the Raila non-Gema support that forced Kibaki to accept NARA. They would be isolated and face political, legal and police backlash. In short PEV 2 is a losing card for Ruto.
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You're skirting around issues. So this thing will be hidden until when? During referendum - what will we be voting. Yours is a mix of desperation and now insanity. Executive PM - is one that appoint and run gov - but still subservient to PORK(Head of State). Uhuru is not taking that in my view either. But BBI is not even proposing a very weak position - A Duale sitting on the cabinet like Rafael Tuju does now :D - and at some point they have to come clean.I mean BBI 1.0 - now you're saying we are still hiding it - come June - it will still be hidden. Crazy thoughts.
PEV happens spontaneously but the poisoning of relationships starts early. There was luo-kalenjin clash in 2017 - around Chemelili-Muhorini. It didn't get out of hand like you'd expect Kikuyu-Kalenjin would. And the reason is kalenjin-kikuyu settlement is mini-Rwanda...one village this tribe...next village that..or some village completely mixed. The luo-kipsigis or nandi borders & settlements are well defined...so it like kenya-somali fight..it can only be a border clash...but kikuyu-kalenjin is another story...we will be talking 1M internal refugees.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017-10-29-relative-calm-returns-to-kericho-kisumu-border-muhoroni-security-boss/
Those calls for BBI 1 are strategy to assuage Gema. Including one-man one-vote and the youth welfare they plagiarized from Tangatanga in Naivasha. They are running away with Tangatanga ball and once they nail them, Exec PM will fly under the radar of elected PORK as head of state and govt. We know BBI is choreographed with predetermined outcome. Uhuru parrots - Murathe, Atwoli - are still telling us he is going to be PM. But his bigger mouthpieces have switched to BB1 because it is key to assuage Mt Kenya.
Your take that Raila greed after watching BBI crowds is the reason is implausible. Because he needs Uhuru and cannot betray him and lose vantage point against Ruto. He has outdone himself in kowtowing to Uhuru I don't see him messing it that easy. Uhuru is behind all the sudden change of tune by ODM and shebang - esp Raila seeming to embrace one-man one-vote.
This is last minute jujitsu move by Obama that propped Biden. Uhuru is playing a good game and your boy is in trouble.
PEV - I don't think peace in RV or Ruto ambition is more useful than democracy. If it spontaneous or unsponsored by the elite then those warriors or Mungiki would be mere murderers and will hang on their own. Ruto wouldn't go back to ICC if he didn't engineer it. Kalenjin would not have the Raila non-Gema support that forced Kibaki to accept NARA. They would be isolated and face political, legal and police backlash. In short PEV 2 is a losing card for Ruto.
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It will be hidden in plain sight. PORK elected as head of state and govt. Appoints majority party leader as PM. To fire PM you need 2/3 of MPs. PM appoints, runs and fires cabinet. PORK opens parliament and swears in folks like the queen with no executive powers.
Wait for BBI 2 by June.
Peace between Kalenjin and Kikuyu is not more useful than democracy. Some people will die from arrows. Others from bullets. If it spontaneous like Muhoroni it won't be as bad as 2007/8. But Uhuru and Kikuyu will not back Ruto for that GENOCRACY.
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You're talking parliamentary system. The one proposed by Raila's ODM, MaDVD and Kalonzo is very clear. Here is ODM's
https://www.theelephant.info/documents/odm-feedback-on-the-report-of-the-bbi-taskforce/
It will be hidden in plain sight. PORK elected as head of state and govt. Appoints majority party leader as PM. To fire PM you need 2/3 of MPs. PM appoints, runs and fires cabinet. PORK opens parliament and swears in folks like the queen with no executive powers.
Wait for BBI 2 by June.
Peace between Kalenjin and Kikuyu is not more useful than democracy. Some people will die from arrows. Others from bullets. If it spontaneous like Muhoroni it won't be as bad as 2007/8. But Uhuru and Kikuyu will not back Ruto for that GENOCRACY.
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Sleight of hand... Uhuru is playing chess.
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Or playing Raila.
Sleight of hand... Uhuru is playing chess.
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That you been singing. No sign of Uhuruto detente is discernible.
Or playing Raila.
Sleight of hand... Uhuru is playing chess.
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This should make it clear Robina that BBI 2.0 died as Raila again failed to push for majimbo and parliamentary systems https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-03-06-rutos-last-laugh-over-railas-powerful-pm-u-turn/
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It's called sleight of hand or cards under the table. Maybe you can't read between the lines but it says right there that Raila changed tack for Mt Kenya.
CoG lead by Oparanya and Waiguru want Exec PM as head of government.
In meantime Nakuru BBI rally is drawing heat as Ruto crew get excluded by Lee Kinyanjui. David Gikaria and Sam Arama have joined Kinyanjui to dance reggae. The defections from Tangatanga continue.
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Arama long left. Is BBI now a party :)
And there is no hidden card....it plain ENGLISH.
You desperately want to hide under Uhuru but you'll soon be left high and dry.
It's called sleight of hand or cards under the table. Maybe you can't read between the lines but it says right there that Raila changed tack for Mt Kenya.
CoG lead by Oparanya and Waiguru want Exec PM as head of government.
In meantime Nakuru BBI rally is drawing heat as Ruto crew get excluded by Lee Kinyanjui. David Gikaria and Sam Arama have joined Kinyanjui to dance reggae. The defections from Tangatanga continue.