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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on January 19, 2020, 11:08:45 AM
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After visiting Nairobi I usually throw away most of my shoes.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ntvkenya/status/1218804743675445248
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I was there in 2017 and was astounded by the deterioration. It full of beggars, chokora and cripples. Even core CBD Hilton, Intercon, Laico Regency... you can't walk around without confronting aggressive street kids. They are not like kitambo normal chokora who you hand a note and move on. They are mobile sewers - the stench strikes you 10 metres off. Westlands or Lavington gets better but CBD is just filthy - Sonko is a failure kabisa. City county govt needs to revive Awori homeless shelters and forcefully sequester the pests there. Noone should live in the streets.
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After visiting Nairobi I usually throw away most of my shoes.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ntvkenya/status/1218804743675445248
Housing standards can fix this if only the governor was not a chokora himself. If you impose high standards - hygiene, space, parking, 3flr gorofa limit. Noone ia forced to live in Nairobi and if businesses cannot get staff in Nairobi they will divest to the satellite towns. Impunity in housing standards causes this madness.
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MCAs, MPs, Senators, … , Governors. Given the basis on which the voters choose, they are getting exactly what they asked for. Perhaps they will wake up one day. In the meantime, they could themselves do a bit of cleaning up, or at least stop adding to the filth they wallow in.
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I was there in 2017 and was astounded by the deterioration. It full of beggars, chokora and cripples. Even core CBD Hilton, Intercon, Laico Regency... you can't walk around without confronting aggressive street kids. They are not like kitambo normal chokora who you hand a note and move on. They are mobile sewers - the stench strikes you 10 metres off. Westlands or Lavington gets better but CBD is just filthy - Sonko is a failure kabisa. City county govt needs to revive Awori homeless shelters and forcefully sequester the pests there. Noone should live in the streets.
Robina,
These are people who found themselves in a situation nobody ever wants. THey are not "pests". C'mon. Children born and then dumped in the streets and that is all they know. But Government has failed everyone miserably. Everyone cares about themselves, but they people who are supposed to get help. Kibaki tried but he did not put it into statute.
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Most of these are not dumped. They are delinquents that need to be detained in youth detention centers and later transferred to jail. Boniface mwangi was a chokora but his mum took him to approved school. I know 2 other guys with degrees now but had to in approved jails for over 10 years. One was from my village tycoon. He used to steal from his parents and just do delinquent stuff like break homes to scare owners. His dad got him jailed and put to an approved school where he graduated. These chokoras most are kids with oppositional defiant behavior and other behavioral health problems
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Tough love. My dad best friend had his thuggish son hunted down for weeks by paid dying squad. They finally got him shot him and was chained to knh hospital jailed for 9 years. The moron had a crackhead. He continued stealing and in 2003 his dad got police to finish him off and burried him in langsta in unmarked grave
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On Nairobi filth I see why people have a very short life expectancy in slumming slummish areas. You will die like a pig if you live jn these sewage rivers ..that why sonko deserve a jm solution
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Nairobi is practically a swampy slum- with rains it is just a shithole. The Chinese road contractors even with their experience in making functional sewerage seem overwhelmed.
The sewerage problem requires investment in the magnitude of SGR billions - for now seems not a priority - even for newer towns - they are even messier.
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Nairobi is practically a swampy slum- with rains it is just a shithole. The Chinese road contractors even with their experience in making functional sewerage seem overwhelmed.
The sewerage problem requires investment in the magnitude of SGR billions - for now seems not a priority - even for newer towns - they are even messier.
Yes relocating all non essential govt offices may be a start, Send them to Isiolo
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Since early 1990s the whole system of orderly living went down the drain. Poor planning and corruption and just ineptitude
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Nairobi is practically a swampy slum- with rains it is just a shithole. The Chinese road contractors even with their experience in making functional sewerage seem overwhelmed.
The sewerage problem requires investment in the magnitude of SGR billions - for now seems not a priority - even for newer towns - they are even messier.
Overpopulation is obviously a problem. Infrastructure has never matched population growth since the white man lowered his flag and left.
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Nairobi is practically a swampy slum- with rains it is just a shithole. The Chinese road contractors even with their experience in making functional sewerage seem overwhelmed.
The sewerage problem requires investment in the magnitude of SGR billions - for now seems not a priority - even for newer towns - they are even messier.
Overpopulation is obviously a problem. Infrastructure has never matched population growth since the white man lowered his flag and left.
Absolutely. Good management left with mzungu
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It's literally a shit city:
Nairobi City Water and Sewerage Company cannot account for the disposal of over 66 percent of human waste.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018-07-05-where-does-your-shit-go-66-of-nairobi-human-waste-unaccounted-for/
“Only 34 per cent of waste water and faecal matter in Nairobi is safely managed while 66 per cent is not,” said Ms Kabaria.
https://www.nation.co.ke/health/broken-sewerage-system/3476990-5161464-uqotx0/index.html
But, hey, we do have a shiny, new rail system; the economy is "booming", and we are a middle-class country; dot, dot, dot. Things have never been better, I hear. So, why worry about a bit of shit here and there, some water-borne killers, etc.
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Infrastructure has never matched population growth since the white man lowered his flag and left.
At the 1:00 minute-mark here:
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Where is NEMA?
I thought this would be a priority rather than chasing mama mboga plastic bags
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Precisely. We need huge investment in sewerage and water. It easy to clean it up after that. But now even water for drinking is being rationed.
Nairobi is practically a swampy slum- with rains it is just a shithole. The Chinese road contractors even with their experience in making functional sewerage seem overwhelmed.
The sewerage problem requires investment in the magnitude of SGR billions - for now seems not a priority - even for newer towns - they are even messier.
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I was there in 2017 and was astounded by the deterioration. It full of beggars, chokora and cripples. Even core CBD Hilton, Intercon, Laico Regency... you can't walk around without confronting aggressive street kids. They are not like kitambo normal chokora who you hand a note and move on. They are mobile sewers - the stench strikes you 10 metres off. Westlands or Lavington gets better but CBD is just filthy - Sonko is a failure kabisa. City county govt needs to revive Awori homeless shelters and forcefully sequester the pests there. Noone should live in the streets.
Robina,
These are people who found themselves in a situation nobody ever wants. THey are not "pests". C'mon. Children born and then dumped in the streets and that is all they know. But Government has failed everyone miserably. Everyone cares about themselves, but they people who are supposed to get help. Kibaki tried but he did not put it into statute.
No - they are pests because they suck everyone's blood - fresh air, space, security, scenic beauty is dead cause of them. There are street homes Awori built and Sonko has failed to sustain.. In Buru Buru, Dandora, etc. They should be forcefully sequestered there until they reform. They are delinquents as Socrates says - why flee from the shelters to defigure the streets? They are not helpless or abused - they are the abusers. Roaches, leeches, urchins are plain English words that perfectly describe them. It's not abuse but the truth.
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Tough love. My dad best friend had his thuggish son hunted down for weeks by paid dying squad. They finally got him shot him and was chained to knh hospital jailed for 9 years. The moron had a crackhead. He continued stealing and in 2003 his dad got police to finish him off and burried him in langsta in unmarked grave
Ai Boss - how many thugs or delinquents are there in your circle? Does it say something about you? :)
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Who knows of Sanergy? Are they visible? They do sanitation- as a- service mobile plastic toilets. They have IoT solutions for toilets with hidden sensor at the door - when 50 people use it they mark it for disposal using sewer trucks around the Nairobi slums. Mathare, Mukuru, etc - not in Kibra - cartels run sewer business there. Think they are expanding to Kisumu. They recycle the waste at Kinanie, Machakos County to make fertiliser and animal feeds. They charge 850/- per toilet per month - which can be shared in a plot I guess. So 20 folks can cough 40 bob each for toilet service.
http://www.sanergy.com/
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Tough love. My dad best friend had his thuggish son hunted down for weeks by paid dying squad. They finally got him shot him and was chained to knh hospital jailed for 9 years. The moron had a crackhead. He continued stealing and in 2003 his dad got police to finish him off and burried him in langsta in unmarked grave
Ai Boss - how many thugs or delinquents are there in your circle? Does it say something about you? :)
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My family is well connected So I know lots of people in kiambu county.
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I thought that moron called truerv claimed they were building a sewer from upperhill to ruai .what happened?
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Anyway sonko and mps have built up pipeline roads ..tthat place was hell
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Tough love. My dad best friend had his thuggish son hunted down for weeks by paid dying squad. They finally got him shot him and was chained to knh hospital jailed for 9 years. The moron had a crackhead. He continued stealing and in 2003 his dad got police to finish him off and burried him in langsta in unmarked grave
Ai Boss - how many thugs or delinquents are there in your circle? Does it say something about you? :)
My family is well connected So I know lots of people in kiambu county.
I think you know too many thugs.
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Tough love. My dad best friend had his thuggish son hunted down for weeks by paid dying squad. They finally got him shot him and was chained to knh hospital jailed for 9 years. The moron had a crackhead. He continued stealing and in 2003 his dad got police to finish him off and burried him in langsta in unmarked grave
Ai Boss - how many thugs or delinquents are there in your circle? Does it say something about you? :)
My family is well connected So I know lots of people in kiambu county.
I think you know too many thugs.
I did know quite a few hardcore guys. I used hang around reggae fanatics back in my teens. I spent a lot of time in parklands club called brilliant run by obohos papa lefty and Jack Marley. Papa lefty was a left handed luhyia urchin that used to knock his victims using a quick left upper cut learnt in his days in jericho gyms. Brilliant was a gangs haven jericho youth. Makongeni and ziwani gangs. I was a Babylonian that had grown in kiambu in a sheltered life. The thugs I knew before moving to Nairobi were kids with rich parents that delinquency involved hot wiring parents car for get away to nakuru. On such a mischief One reverend son and billionaire Jackson kamau son ended under a truck trailer carriage and were decapitated.
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Tough love. My dad best friend had his thuggish son hunted down for weeks by paid dying squad. They finally got him shot him and was chained to knh hospital jailed for 9 years. The moron had a crackhead. He continued stealing and in 2003 his dad got police to finish him off and burried him in langsta in unmarked grave
Ai Boss - how many thugs or delinquents are there in your circle? Does it say something about you? :)
My family is well connected So I know lots of people in kiambu county.
I think you know too many thugs.
I did know quite a few hardcore guys. I used hang around reggae fanatics back in my teens. I spent a lot of time in parklands club called brilliant run by obohos papa lefty and Jack Marley. Papa lefty was a left handed luhyia urchin that used to knock his victims using a quick left upper cut learnt in his days in jericho gyms. Brilliant was a gangs haven jericho youth. Makongeni and ziwani gangs. I was a Babylonian that had grown in kiambu in a sheltered life. The thugs I knew before moving to Nairobi were kids with rich parents that delinquency involved hot wiring parents car for get away to nakuru. On such a mischief One reverend son and billionaire Jackson kamau son ended under a truck trailer carriage and were decapitated.
Lol. From your language and stylistic demeanor I conceive you are a reformed delinquent yourself. Bad boy traits.
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Thanks gods of my ancestors for my ability to get good grades. Otherwise I would be a Nairobi junkie or dead. World Cup 1994 finals I almost died after some morons spiked my kimeus "Akamba sugarcane drink" we were drink in kasarani in a den. I had this hot Kamba maid i was dating ..so these thugs decided they wanted the chic and spiked my drink. We barely made home and i went out in the living room. I was saved with induced vomiting at a back alley clinic hapo zimma. Good days good days.. We used to go to KU and light harambee hall with weed smoke. After 1 am weed would be legalized
I left in 1995 and in 1996 my dear mentor papa lefty died from Aids complications and his brother papa Charlie never recovered..
In 1995 i spent 2 months in mombasa drinking ...i hit a Nubian gin den hapo kipevu. It was after signon freight docks owned by giddy moi. We would then hit clubs until morning dancing with backpacking white trash
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Interesting saga, but I am not sure if backpackers are white trash. There you got it wrong. White trash would never get as far as Mombasa. Backpackers are usually kids from the middleclass who make such tours without financial support form the parents.
In 1995 i spent 2 months in mombasa drinking ...i hit a Nubian gin den hapo kipevu. It was after signon freight docks owned by giddy moi. We would then hit clubs until morning dancing with backpacking white trash
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Interesting saga, but I am not sure if backpackers are white trash. There you got it wrong. White trash would never get as far as Mombasa. Backpackers are usually kids from the middleclass who make such tours without financial support form the parents.
In 1995 i spent 2 months in mombasa drinking ...i hit a Nubian gin den hapo kipevu. It was after signon freight docks owned by giddy moi. We would then hit clubs until morning dancing with backpacking white trash
You are right they were kids even from upper middle class in germany doing this too. I saw first kalenjin malayas in ukunda. They were nicknamed farasi . They used to show case their tall legs and flat bottoms to mzungu hapo safari. There were 3 clubs Tropicana, stardust and farmers ..good times being young is an adventure. My high school friend had an apartment in kipevu kpl power station. His dad had retired and left the apartment for him. At 19 years with an apartment and lots of cash it was just amazing
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You are right they were kids even from upper middle class in germany doing this too. I saw first kalenjin malayas in ukunda. They were nicknamed farasi . They used to show case their tall legs and flat bottoms to mzungu hapo safari. There were 3 clubs Tropicana, stardust and farmers ..good times being young is an adventure. My high school friend had an apartment in kipevu kpl power station. His dad had retired and left the apartment for him. At 19 years with an apartment and lots of cash it was just amazing
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Hey Socrates, you seem to have been really slapping it...!! Eish, enjoying/living the life, so recklessly....
Your one way ticket to the USA was a mighty escape (the sewer that is Nairobi indeed); i can see that, otherwise you could be in some long forgotten un-marked grave somewhere too.
Wow, the stories :D :D :)
Thanks gods of my ancestors for my ability to get good grades. Otherwise I would be a Nairobi junkie or dead. World Cup 1994 finals I almost died after some morons spiked my kimeus "Akamba sugarcane drink" we were drink in kasarani in a den. I had this hot Kamba maid i was dating ..so these thugs decided they wanted the chic and spiked my drink. We barely made home and i went out in the living room. I was saved with induced vomiting at a back alley clinic hapo zimma. Good days good days.. We used to go to KU and light harambee hall with weed smoke. After 1 am weed would be legalized
I left in 1995 and in 1996 my dear mentor papa lefty died from Aids complications and his brother papa Charlie never recovered..
In 1995 i spent 2 months in mombasa drinking ...i hit a Nubian gin den hapo kipevu. It was after signon freight docks owned by giddy moi. We would then hit clubs until morning dancing with backpacking white trash
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You all whine too much. Serikali saidia mentality run amok.
There is a simple solution for this sewer mess: COMPOST TOILETS
They work brilliantly and eco friendly.
Never shit in water. It is a valuable resource. All diseases and filth stem from shitting in water.
Rocket stoves and compost toilets would solve lots of problems in the slums.
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You all whine too much. Serikali saidia mentality run amok.
There is a simple solution for this sewer mess: COMPOST TOILETS
They work brilliantly and eco friendly.
Ive seen them advertised lately... But you have to throw the ashes somewhere right?
Never shit in water. It is a valuable resource. All diseases and filth stem from shitting in water.
Rocket stoves and compost toilets would solve lots of problems in the slums.
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Yours is the dreamland whining about slum dwellers. You seem to be clueless on how slums work. Slumdogs have no titles and will rarely allow you set up such eco things. The main bottleneck is title deeds which I bet there are eco title deeds which would allow set up of sewer lines spaces.
You all whine too much. Serikali saidia mentality run amok.
There is a simple solution for this sewer mess: COMPOST TOILETS
They work brilliantly and eco friendly.
Never shit in water. It is a valuable resource. All diseases and filth stem from shitting in water.
Rocket stoves and compost toilets would solve lots of problems in the slums.
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Yours is the dreamland whining about slum dwellers. You seem to be clueless on how slums work. Slumdogs have no titles and will rarely allow you set up such eco things. The main bottleneck is title deeds which I bet there are eco title deeds which would allow set up of sewer lines spaces.
You all whine too much. Serikali saidia mentality run amok.
There is a simple solution for this sewer mess: COMPOST TOILETS
They work brilliantly and eco friendly.
Never shit in water. It is a valuable resource. All diseases and filth stem from shitting in water.
Rocket stoves and compost toilets would solve lots of problems in the slums.
You don't about about compost toilets, do you ? You literally shit in a 5 gallon bucket cover it with sawdust and it decomposes, no odors, no flies and after some time the waste can be used as fertilizer for trees. It is cheap, low tech and you don't need title deed. I'm against building sewer systems in slums.