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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nefertiti on December 16, 2019, 07:29:13 AM
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China’s industrial engine beat expectations in November
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3042213/chinas-industrial-engine-rebounded-strongly-last-month-amid
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China’s industrial engine beat expectations in November
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3042213/chinas-industrial-engine-rebounded-strongly-last-month-amid
Fake News!!!
Not According to Trump..
In my opinion the only thing that could have slowed China to a crawl was TPP. Trump killed it.
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China’s industrial engine beat expectations in November
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3042213/chinas-industrial-engine-rebounded-strongly-last-month-amid
Fake News!!!
Not According to Trump..
In my opinion the only thing that could have slowed China to a crawl was TPP. Trump killed it.
Yeah it is near impossible to cripple China now unless via brazen naval blockade. Trump and his trade dude Bob Lighthizer have published an elaborate "enforceable" manifesto full of Chinese concessions. I think the Chinese are just buying time hoping Trump goes down next year. Quietly the "Made in China 2025" plans are still in very high gear. Some planks like the Thousand Talents visa program have been hard to conceal. Shenzhen has siphoned the cremé out of Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3042069/trade-war-breakthrough-us-and-china-reach-phase-one-deal
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China’s industrial engine beat expectations in November
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3042213/chinas-industrial-engine-rebounded-strongly-last-month-amid
Fake News!!!
Not According to Trump..
In my opinion the only thing that could have slowed China to a crawl was TPP. Trump killed it.
Yeah it is near impossible to cripple China now unless via brazen naval blockade. Trump and his trade dude Bob Lighthizer have published an elaborate "enforceable" manifesto full of Chinese concessions. I think the Chinese are just buying time hoping Trump goes down next year. Quietly the "Made in China 2025" plans are still in very high gear. Some planks like the Thousand Talents visa program have been hard to conceal. Shenzhen has siphoned the cremé out of Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3042069/trade-war-breakthrough-us-and-china-reach-phase-one-deal
They've been negotiating for almost two years and in the end they told China to do whatever it takes to make Trump look good.
TPP agreement could have done it wonderfully, but because it was Obama's child, he decided to kill it.
China is now stronger economically and she has to spend the political capital she now has - courtesy of Trump, around the world.
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They need to burry XI asap.
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Lakini SCMP is as reliable as Fox on Trump
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Lakini SCMP is as reliable as Fox on Trump
Really? Then I’d rather check infowars. Fox has done more damage to entire regions of the US than Mao ze Dung re-education camps could ever do.
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SCMP is quite independent Hong Kong media. Their extensive coverage of the Umbrella Movement is telling. In the Mainland it's like only a few extinction rebellion nutcases... folks are not aware of any problem. :)
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COVID-19 will shrink China a lot.
H1N1, SARS, COVID, what next?
Businesses will be looking into diversifying to other Asian and maybe Africa.
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COVID-19 will shrink China a lot.
H1N1, SARS, COVID, what next?
Businesses will be looking into diversifying to other Asian and maybe Africa.
Corona is global and China is doing better than most countries esp Europe and US.
Coronavirus: Italy's death toll overtakes China's
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/world/2020-03-19-coronavirus-italys-death-toll-overtakes-chinas/
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China has offered to help Italy and many "western" countries to manage corona. They also want to build a 8.3B medical research facility in Nairobi. Kung Fu is not a joke. I think they have turned around their infection rate as Europeans drop like flies.
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COVID-19 will shrink China a lot.
H1N1, SARS, COVID, what next?
Businesses will be looking into diversifying to other Asian and maybe Africa.
Bruh, you're behind news. China has been reporting fewer and fewer new infections in the past two weeks and now is down to NIL two days in a row. Of their 80,000+ total infections to date, well over 70,000 are fully recovered with only about 6,000 active infections, about two-thirds of which are mild. Total deaths to date about 3,200. That, my friend, looks like a clear win. They're beating the virus.
Meanwhile, Italy, Spain, Germany, the U.S., France are reporting thousands of new infections daily EACH! Of the 35,000 plus total Italian infections by yesterday, (Edit, just read, it's now 41,000 plus...that's 6,000 more since yesterday for crying out loud) only 4,000 are fully recovered. 3,400 plus dead, more than china, and not a hint that the infection rate is slowing down. In fact if you look at the EU as a block, they've more infections than China and showing no signs of defeating it yet.
Italy long surpassed Iran, Spain has too, now, and it looks like Germany will do that today or tomorrow, and France won't be too far behind. If anyone is in danger of getting 'shrunk' by corona, it appears to be Europe, starting with Italy. Italy is now the epicenter of infections with over 30,000 active infections. If we look at just the 5 most affected EU countries, it's a disaster. Like I said, Africa should've banned travel from Europe 2/3 weeks ago. I'm sure we'd have zero or fewer than ten on the continent if we had done that.
Keep up with all the numbers here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/
Updated like every few minutes.
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The EU generally and Italy in particular have an aging population. Partially explains for the high infection and death rate. The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.
Mwafrika madondo-ugali are very healthy adults with man kids. Youths are 70% or thereabouts - who reside in prone towns. The elderly are fewer due to low lifespan and mostly inhabit the sparse rural country.
The Kibra endowed mjengo crew who uproot rail for sport might catch it and never notice. Just shrug it off as normal flu. :) while the European 90yo's on Cerelac and diapers will die in a few days.
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The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.
The conspiracy theorist in me is tempted to think this was being tested as some kind of population control/culling tool but went bad before perfection. Very few people under 19 affected. Seems it's out to catch anyone with little 'productive potential' who might be deemed a drain on resources.
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The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.
The conspiracy theorist in me is tempted to think this was being tested as some kind of population control/culling tool but went bad before perfection. Very few people under 19 affected. Seems it's out to catch anyone with little 'productive potential' who might be deemed a drain on resources.
Nuh, not so. The info available shows it was a lab mishap. As in a perfect carrier bacterium accidentally let to fuse onto the virus which abruptly mutated into a novelic evil organism.
Microbiologically - it may appear counter-intuitive that kids are relatively resistant. But viruses unlike bacteria bypass the immune system. Kids have a fast heartrate, pulse and general circulatory system that is inhospitable to viral mutation. Coupled with purer bodies with fewer potential carrier bacteria. So the poor virus won't multiply nor survive in the kid. Exactly the opposite for the elderly and the ill.
But I do allow for that possibility. A biotool. Things are rarely as they seem.
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Even normal flu is known to kill the old and vulnerable. No conspiracy here. The consumption of wild animals is well known source of various unknown infections. From HIV to ebola, these all come from wild animals and not some labs as many tend to think.
The conspiracy theorist in me is tempted to think this was being tested as some kind of population control/culling tool but went bad before perfection. Very few people under 19 affected. Seems it's out to catch anyone with little 'productive potential' who might be deemed a drain on resources.
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Italy has on average the oldest population in Europe. Also the Italian social structure plays a big role. Three generations tend to live day to day life very close to each other. So the old are unlike in many other European countries not in old people's homes, but are taken care of by their children and grandchildren. The contact to other generations is there which brings about problems in social distancing.
The EU generally and Italy in particular have an aging population. Partially explains for the high infection and death rate. The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.
Mwafrika madondo-ugali are very healthy adults with man kids. Youths are 70% or thereabouts - who reside in prone towns. The elderly are fewer due to low lifespan and mostly inhabit the sparse rural country.
The Kibra endowed mjengo crew who uproot rail for sport might catch it and never notice. Just shrug it off as normal flu. :) while the European 90yo's on Cerelac and diapers will die in a few days.
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Agreed.
Even normal flu is known to kill the old and vulnerable. No conspiracy here. The consumption of wild animals is well known source of various unknown infections. From HIV to ebola, these all come from wild animals and not some labs as many tend to think.
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Even normal flu is known to kill the old and vulnerable. No conspiracy here. The consumption of wild animals is well known source of various unknown infections. From HIV to ebola, these all come from wild animals and not some labs as many tend to think.
The conspiracy theorist in me is tempted to think this was being tested as some kind of population control/culling tool but went bad before perfection. Very few people under 19 affected. Seems it's out to catch anyone with little 'productive potential' who might be deemed a drain on resources.
Homo sapiens has eaten wild animals for a long time. What is new that causes these unknown infections to become known? Is it that these things are not new but rather that we can now detect many of them? :shock:
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It appears since anti-biotic (pencilin) was discovered - the medical world has yet to make major advance - on fighting microbes. There is a serious need to fund virology - but world busy - funding space programs. I think there is need for World Health Research kind of institutions that can be well-funded by all countries - so they can crack this viral menace.
Nuh, not so. The info available shows it was a lab mishap. As in a perfect carrier bacterium accidentally let to fuse onto the virus which abruptly mutated into a novelic evil organism.
Microbiologically - it may appear counter-intuitive that kids are relatively resistant. But viruses unlike bacteria bypass the immune system. Kids have a fast heartrate, pulse and general circulatory system that is inhospitable to viral mutation. Coupled with purer bodies with fewer potential carrier bacteria. So the poor virus won't multiply nor survive in the kid. Exactly the opposite for the elderly and the ill.
But I do allow for that possibility. A biotool. Things are rarely as they seem.
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If you are able to solve the issue of how virus which are in animals and birds are able to move to a human body, you will receive the Nobel Price for Medicine. This is a scientific problem that is yet to be solved. Many animals have viruses which are not able to be move even on cosumption through humens to the human body system.
Homo sapiens has eaten wild animals for a long time. What is new that causes these unknown infections to become known? Is it that these things are not new but rather that we can now detect many of them? :shock:
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It more a question of epidemiology - the spread of diseases - is faster now that we are a global village - the more connected - the faster it will be for everything including virus - to get to everyone. We now need to take these kinds of things seriously - otherwise a new disease in any part of globe - could be in the entire global village in few days - the more inter-connected we become.
Homo sapiens has eaten wild animals for a long time. What is new that causes these unknown infections to become known? Is it that these things are not new but rather that we can now detect many of them? :shock:
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It more a question of epidemiology - the spread of diseases - is faster now that we are a global village - the more connected - the faster it will be for everything including virus - to get to everyone. We now need to take these kinds of things seriously - otherwise a new disease in any part of globe - could be in the entire global village in few days - the more inter-connected we become.
Homo sapiens has eaten wild animals for a long time. What is new that causes these unknown infections to become known? Is it that these things are not new but rather that we can now detect many of them? :shock:
Makes sense. In the past, a tribe could be wiped out in the forest and the rest would be none the wiser.
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The EU generally and Italy in particular have an aging population. Partially explains for the high infection and death rate. The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.
Mwafrika madondo-ugali are very healthy adults with man kids. Youths are 70% or thereabouts - who reside in prone towns. The elderly are fewer due to low lifespan and mostly inhabit the sparse rural country.
The Kibra endowed mjengo crew who uproot rail for sport might catch it and never notice. Just shrug it off as normal flu. :) while the European 90yo's on Cerelac and diapers will die in a few days.
That's what I am thinking too. I suspect the pathogen, being related to the flu, will go into remission in the warmer seasons. So that might provide a break. It's also the same reason why the African madondo-ugali probably has little to worry about.
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This is exactly what is happening now. Virology has been ignored yes - very slow progress. Seems disease rather than bombs could wipe out the human race.
It more a question of epidemiology - the spread of diseases - is faster now that we are a global village - the more connected - the faster it will be for everything including virus - to get to everyone. We now need to take these kinds of things seriously - otherwise a new disease in any part of globe - could be in the entire global village in few days - the more inter-connected we become.
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The EU generally and Italy in particular have an aging population. Partially explains for the high infection and death rate. The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.
Mwafrika madondo-ugali are very healthy adults with man kids. Youths are 70% or thereabouts - who reside in prone towns. The elderly are fewer due to low lifespan and mostly inhabit the sparse rural country.
The Kibra endowed mjengo crew who uproot rail for sport might catch it and never notice. Just shrug it off as normal flu. :) while the European 90yo's on Cerelac and diapers will die in a few days.
That's what I am thinking too. I suspect the pathogen, being related to the flu, will go into remission in the warmer seasons. So that might provide a break. It's also the same reason why the African madondo-ugali probably has little to worry about.
I expect there will be some vaccines sooner than the Summer. Already chloroquine or something similar is in pilot here in the US. This will be cracked pretty quick it's just too new and sudden.
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The EU generally and Italy in particular have an aging population. Partially explains for the high infection and death rate. The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.
Mwafrika madondo-ugali are very healthy adults with man kids. Youths are 70% or thereabouts - who reside in prone towns. The elderly are fewer due to low lifespan and mostly inhabit the sparse rural country.
The Kibra endowed mjengo crew who uproot rail for sport might catch it and never notice. Just shrug it off as normal flu. :) while the European 90yo's on Cerelac and diapers will die in a few days.
That's what I am thinking too. I suspect the pathogen, being related to the flu, will go into remission in the warmer seasons. So that might provide a break. It's also the same reason why the African madondo-ugali probably has little to worry about.
I expect there will be some vaccines sooner than the Summer. Already chloroquine or something similar is in pilot here in the US. This will be cracked pretty quick it's just too new and sudden.
Sorry I am not optimistic about the vaccine. This pathogen mutates with every other infection, so it may be harder to crack. Yes it will be slowed by warm temps but Australia and the southern hemisphere are next.
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Mwafrika madondo-ugali are very healthy adults with man kids. Youths are 70% or thereabouts - who reside in prone towns. The elderly are fewer due to low lifespan and mostly inhabit the sparse rural country.
It's also the same reason why the African madondo-ugali probably has little to worry about.
You guys are forgetting that too many of our madondo-ugali are HIV+ or suffering from malaria or undetected cancer. That's what worries me the most.
If you are able to solve the issue of how virus which are in animals and birds are able to move to a human body, you will receive the Nobel Price for Medicine. This is a scientific problem that is yet to be solved. Many animals have viruses which are not able to be move even on cosumption through humens to the human body system.
Homo sapiens has eaten wild animals for a long time. What is new that causes these unknown infections to become known? Is it that these things are not new but rather that we can now detect many of them? :shock:
Well, it seems some officials in a few countries think it's from the lab too, lol. I don't think we can know for sure that it was all just perfectly organic/spontaneous with no help from some scientist somewhere. I'm also tempted to think H.I.V and many of these brand new diseases that just show up one day then go on a killing rampage across human populations are the results of humans experimenting on those animal viruses you mention in a lab. One person accidentally gets infected then takes it out of the lab to the wider population.
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Yes, there is a good and reasonable case to be made that Coronavirus is a Bioweapon. I attach a 15k essay which makes a case that Coronavirus is/was a bioweapon.
First, there is claim that Chinese Military has a secretive Bio-Weapon Lab located at Wuhan. That the lab research in all manners of viruses and bacteria for warfare purposes. The theory goes that Coronavirus LEAKED from that Wuhan Lab and infected humans from thereon.
Second, there were World Military Games at Wuhan and the US sent a contingent of 200 military sportsmen/women. Accordingly the US Military RELEASED the virus in Wuhan as a biological warfare against China. Motive is of course to slow rise of China as a superpower and maintain US supremacy at all times. That the US Military used location of Chinese BioWeapon Lab at Wuhan as a cover. They could claim that its Chinese who LEAKED the virus into their own population. And that is the reason why the Americans and their European vassals were casually blaming China for negligence and incompetence.
This is why China is now "almost" officially accusing US of attacking them with the virus; and Trump rename the virus as Chinese Virus.
Third, that the US and Europeans NEVER IMAGINED the current blowback; that is, they never thought Coronavirus would escape China and infect them in such a significant manner.
https://www.unz.com/article/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage/
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Am no scientist or epidemiologist but my understanding is that for a virus/bacteria to "jump" from animal to human and immediately start an epidemic is most unlikely. My understanding is that "it is an evolving process.." not a one day event... Unless that animal virus/bacteria has been engineered to affect/infect humans too...
BTW, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF THAT BAT SOUP WAS THE SOURCE OF THIS CORONA. PATIENT ONE (ZERO) REMAINS UNKNOWN. Even Chinese officially states that the origin remain unknown.
Well, it seems some officials in a few countries think it's from the lab too, lol. I don't think we can know for sure that it was all just perfectly organic/spontaneous with no help from some scientist somewhere. I'm also tempted to think H.I.V and many of these brand new diseases that just show up one day then go on a killing rampage across human populations are the results of humans experimenting on those animal viruses you mention in a lab. One person accidentally gets infected then takes it out of the lab to the wider population.
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Am no scientist or epidemiologist but my understanding is that for a virus/bacteria to "jump" from animal to human and immediately start an epidemic is most unlikely. My understanding is that "it is an evolving process.." not a one day event... Unless that animal virus/bacteria has been engineered to affect/infect humans too...
BTW, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF THAT BAT SOUP WAS THE SOURCE OF THIS CORONA. PATIENT ONE (ZERO) REMAINS UNKNOWN. Even Chinese officially states that the origin remain unknown.
Well, it seems some officials in a few countries think it's from the lab too, lol. I don't think we can know for sure that it was all just perfectly organic/spontaneous with no help from some scientist somewhere. I'm also tempted to think H.I.V and many of these brand new diseases that just show up one day then go on a killing rampage across human populations are the results of humans experimenting on those animal viruses you mention in a lab. One person accidentally gets infected then takes it out of the lab to the wider population.
If you cared to follow facts, you'll remember SARS, H1N1, Hantavirus, etc. All these come and go only to mutate the next round. These are facts. Im not promoting vegan but when you eat any animal expect a mutation of your cells. It may takes generations but it happens. Viruses will live in our bodies slowly taking over waiting for a trigger. That's what happened in Wuhan.
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I think you agree with my assertion when you state "it may take generations..." then "slowly taking over waiting a trigger..."
And am asserting that there was nothing slowly or generation about Coronavirus. It hit and hit hard spreading all at once...
If you cared to follow facts, you'll remember SARS, H1N1, Hantavirus, etc. All these come and go only to mutate the next round. These are facts. Im not promoting vegan but when you eat any animal expect a mutation of your cells. It may takes generations but it happens. Viruses will live in our bodies slowly taking over waiting for a trigger. That's what happened in Wuhan.