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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: GeeMail on November 18, 2019, 11:13:04 PM
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Likely to be impeached but to what effect? This impeachment call has energized his base and Goppers are raising hell and funds for his reelection. No bets yet but from the look of things, Trump will come out stronger and Nervous Nancy will regret.
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Just because he’s not gonna be removed doesn’t mean they should ignore the crimes????
This is an indictment, what senators do with it is their prerogative
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He will be impeached. The Senate will not convict, even though it's not clear he gets most votes. There will be a trial presided over by John Roberts. Bad optics all the way except to his hardcore base.
Either way, he looks destined for one term and possibly jail for the remainder of his life. Reminds me of quite a few Illinois former governors.
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Trump will survive the impeachement trial at the Senate, but does not mean he is not guilty as charged. He is lucky the GOP can only loose if it throws him now under the bus. Had this taken place in his second term, Trump would now be on permanent holiday in Miami.
As of law and order party that the GOP was depicted to be, that was yesterday. Now we have a mafiosi residing in SH.
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He will be impeached. The Senate will not convict, even though it's not clear he gets most votes. There will be a trial presided over by John Roberts. Bad optics all the way except to his hardcore base.
Either way, he looks destined for one term and possibly jail for the remainder of his life. Reminds me of quite a few Illinois former governors.
Termi, I really doubt any president would let an American president touch jail. They are the last people on earth who would want such a precedent set. That's why they have the tradition of a quick pardon, even before you can have a trial.
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Most people are leaving GOP because the party left them, and new generation sees the party as a cult. No ideas except personal attacks, and loudmouths. If he wins, lots more will leave....
Trump will survive the impeachement trial at the Senate, but does not mean he is not guilty as charged. He is lucky the GOP can only loose if it throws him now under the bus. Had this taken place in his second term, Trump would now be on permanent holiday in Miami.
As of law and order party that the GOP was depicted to be, that was yesterday. Now we have a mafiosi residing in SH.
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He will be impeached. The Senate will not convict, even though it's not clear he gets most votes. There will be a trial presided over by John Roberts. Bad optics all the way except to his hardcore base.
Either way, he looks destined for one term and possibly jail for the remainder of his life. Reminds me of quite a few Illinois former governors.
Termi, I really doubt any president would let an American president touch jail. They are the last people on earth who would want such a precedent set. That's why they have the tradition of a quick pardon, even before you can have a trial.
He will most likely be pardoned by his successor. I see that possibility. But that pardon power only covers Federal charges. It won't protect him from State charges. New York has been digging up quite a bit of his past. They may choose to look the other way and not go for it, but he will remain susceptible.
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Most people are leaving GOP because the party left them, and new generation sees the party as a cult. No ideas except personal attacks, and loudmouths. If he wins, lots more will leave....
Trump will survive the impeachement trial at the Senate, but does not mean he is not guilty as charged. He is lucky the GOP can only loose if it throws him now under the bus. Had this taken place in his second term, Trump would now be on permanent holiday in Miami.
As of law and order party that the GOP was depicted to be, that was yesterday. Now we have a mafiosi residing in SH.
That's true. The problem is they are not forming another party. The net effect is that elected Republicans are increasingly of the unhinged conspiracy theory variety. This is more obvious in the House than in the Senate. You still need to appeal to wider audience for most Senate seats. It also gives him the misleading "historically high" approval ratings among self-declared Republicans.
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Trump is guilty as sin. From the hearings so far.
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Never thought one can destroy a democracy like USAs but I was wrong. It could have even even worked had Democrats not taken the house. All intelligence agencies have been destroyed; most of the court systems; the executive office is worse than Mobutus. Children relatives friends etc have the contracts. Need i day more?
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Most people are leaving GOP because the party left them, and new generation sees the party as a cult. No ideas except personal attacks, and loudmouths. If he wins, lots more will leave....
Trump will survive the impeachement trial at the Senate, but does not mean he is not guilty as charged. He is lucky the GOP can only loose if it throws him now under the bus. Had this taken place in his second term, Trump would now be on permanent holiday in Miami.
As of law and order party that the GOP was depicted to be, that was yesterday. Now we have a mafiosi residing in SH.
That's true. The problem is they are not forming another party. The net effect is that elected Republicans are increasingly of the unhinged conspiracy theory variety. This is more obvious in the House than in the Senate. You still need to appeal to wider audience for most Senate seats. It also gives him the misleading "historically high" approval ratings among self-declared Republicans.
Tea party is an anarchist right wing party. The core belief of is that state rights trump everything else. They have a very good grassroots ground game. Their plans is implode federal govt and retreat. At one point they had control of most of red leaning states. Until other rethugs take them on it will be hard to stabilize USA. They have found allies in abortion rights Christian Talibans and other radicals. They have recruited militias to create chaos thus keeping the left on defense. However they underrated millennials push back. Millennials believe in multiculturalism and globalism to them the virtual and real world is the same. In north carolina left wing militias have countered right wing ones to appoint they cannot operate
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/live-blog/live-updates-house-votes-impeachment-president-trump-n1103576 Predictably going nowhere.
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MAGA crew bask in Michigan snow
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/live-blog/live-updates-house-votes-impeachment-president-trump-n1103576 Predictably going nowhere.
That could be literal, as in not leaving Nancy Pelosi’s desk. She let the cat out at the post impeachment presser. She will sit on it until she is sure the Senate can provide something more than a reverse Kangaroo court.
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Looks like Senate won’t be holding a trial any time soon. Nothing in the constitution requires Pelosi to transmit the articles. That Republicans are whining all over the news is a sign that this is something they had assumed Dems were too honorable to do. They had hoped to sweep it under the rug with a swift acquittal.
This could be deadly for Trump as the House is still carrying out an impeachment investigation, even with two articles already in hand.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/475284-democrats-rally-behind-pelosi-on-delay-of-articles%3Famp