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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nefertiti on October 15, 2019, 11:30:55 PM
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I see the moron winning 2020 easy.
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Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren has eclipsed Joe Biden.
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/cbs-news-battleground-tracker-warren-extends-lead-in-early-states/
(https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/10/12/ba1b4cb6-fbf9-4395-a84f-592bdacc7ec1/thumbnail/620x349/4162de032196da11fa77413aab8bd12c/early-vote-10122019.jpg)
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Bado mambo. Over one year to go and with Trump setting himself obstacles every day it is just too early to make such a prediction.
I see the moron winning 2020 easy.
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Trump winning bila wasiwasi.
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The Dotard is rather shrewd and strategic. He has already muddied the waters for Biden and Warren. With the Hunter Biden controversy and the "Pocahontas" slur. For a fumbler he works the crowds quite fluently and a reassuring calm. I don't agree with his views on anything but a spade is a spade. Few outside DC care about the fate of the Kurds and he knows it.
Bado mambo. Over one year to go and with Trump setting himself obstacles every day it is just too early to make such a prediction.
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I see the moron winning 2020 easy.
I didn't see him say anything. The clip is like .0-something seconds. Either way it would be a novel thing, just to see a Republican healthcare plan of any type. Did he promise the most beautiful healthcare system :D ?
America's fundamental problem with ridiculous and increasingly useless healthcare costs is the idea of health as merely another commodity for sale. Most industrialized countries have long since solved this problem one way or another.
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I see the moron winning 2020 easy.
I didn't see him say anything. The clip is like .0-something seconds. Either way it would be a novel thing, just to see a Republican healthcare plan of any type. Did he promise the most beautiful healthcare system :D ?
America's fundamental problem with ridiculous and increasingly useless healthcare costs is the idea of health as merely another commodity for sale. Most industrialized countries have long since solved this problem one way or another.
Should be 40mins save for a saboteur.
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Trump is so done, you can pork him with a folk. He will get his 35% but that's it. There are certain tricks you can only pull once.
I see the moron winning 2020 easy.
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Amen to that. My horse is Pocahontas. US is a ridicule of the ultra rich and the homeless. With no brazen corruption. It's runaway capitalism. We need a Warren or Sanders with tough love for the rich: Pay up. If you offshore to China you forego the market as well.
Trump is so done, you can pork him with a folk. He will get his 35% but that's it. There are certain tricks you can only pull once.
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Trump was not supposed to win in primaries he won.He was not to beat Hillary.He did.He was not going to last a few months...he is standing for 2020 re-election having delivered strong economic growth with record low unemployment, built the wall, done away with climate change deals, China deals, Iran deals, obamacare and basically delivered all manifesto which on face value appeared ridiculous ideas.Nobody beat him in 2020.Donald is a gifted politician who all along pretended to be a businessman.Nobody beating Donald...thank goodness for term limits... otherwise that is how countries get a life president
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Amen to that. My horse is Pocahontas. US is a ridicule of the ultra rich and the homeless. With no brazen corruption. It's runaway capitalism. We need a Warren or Sanders with tough love for the rich: Pay up. If you offshore to China you forego the market as well.
Trump is so done, you can pork him with a folk. He will get his 35% but that's it. There are certain tricks you can only pull once.
Gallup says 52% want him impeached and removed. Biden is the best bet. I see Warren making VP. But any of the top Democrats should get the deal done.
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Pundit, do you live in Mars?
Trump has not even built 1 km of his wall to Mexico.
He has no trade deal with China.
He has no deal with Iran and has not been able to break the Mullah regime in Iran.
Obamacare still exists today with more members than the time Trump took over from Obama.
As of the economy, it was already booming the time Obama left. Trump had to do nothing but just sit back and watch things take their natural corse.
Trump was not supposed to win in primaries he won.He was not to beat Hillary.He did.He was not going to last a few months...he is standing for 2020 re-election having delivered strong economic growth with record low unemployment, built the wall, done away with climate change deals, China deals, Iran deals, obamacare and basically delivered all manifesto which on face value appeared ridiculous ideas.Nobody beat him in 2020.Donald is a gifted politician who all along pretended to be a businessman.Nobody beating Donald...thank goodness for term limits... otherwise that is how countries get a life president
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Donald Trump's official letter to Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan.
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Trump is a cunning fox. A radical like Warren or Sanders can take him down. Biden is a moderate similar to Clinton who was beaten hands down.
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Trump is a cunning fox. A radical like Warren or Sanders can take him down. Biden is a moderate similar to Clinton who was beaten hands down.
Those two are too far left I think. I am working on the assumption that Biden wins Pennsylvania and one or more of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio. While Trump won, the Electoral College belies the kind of a squeaker it was and also how historically unpopular both candidates were.
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Trump is a cunning fox. A radical like Warren or Sanders can take him down. Biden is a moderate similar to Clinton who was beaten hands down.
Those two are too far left I think. I am working on the assumption that Biden wins Pennsylvania and one or more of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio. While Trump won, the Electoral College belies the kind of a squeaker it was and also how historically unpopular both candidates were.
Trump won by appealing to deplorables who otherwise don't turn up. A socialist like Warren - with a sack of freebies - would equally attract the fringe - students, progressives, independents, etc - who are repelled by mainstream politics. Hillary was a boring business-as-usual veteran that ensured low liberal turnout. There are lots of climate-loving, Green Party backers and tree-hugging hippies out there. Look at Germany or the UK. Assume GOP is the Tories. Democrats are Labor. Brexit Party and Lib Dems are the outliers attracted to radicals. In a duopoly these folks are disillusioned and need crazy ideas to excite them.
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bitmask: see how AOC and the Squad have endorsed Sanders and ignored Biden. The Squad are radical progressives. I bet Ayanna Pressley will endorse Warren.
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Trump is a cunning fox. A radical like Warren or Sanders can take him down. Biden is a moderate similar to Clinton who was beaten hands down.
Those two are too far left I think. I am working on the assumption that Biden wins Pennsylvania and one or more of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio. While Trump won, the Electoral College belies the kind of a squeaker it was and also how historically unpopular both candidates were.
Trump won by appealing to deplorables who otherwise don't turn up. A socialist like Warren - with a sack of freebies - would equally attract the fringe - students, progressives, independents, etc - who are repelled by mainstream politics. Hillary was a boring business-as-usual veteran that ensured low liberal turnout. There are lots of climate-loving, Green Party backers and tree-hugging hippies out there. Look at Germany or the UK. Assume GOP is the Tories. Democrats are Labor. Brexit Party and Lib Dems are the outliers attracted to radicals. In a duopoly these folks are disillusioned and need crazy ideas to excite them.
Yes, he appealed to those types to turn out. But even then, he only barely managed to win, aided by Hillary's unpopularity. That approach can only work for Republicans because they can be tribal. While Democrats have a bigger pool to work with, it's a less tribal and more diverse mix. So they cannot push one extreme issue like Republicans.
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Trump is a cunning fox. A radical like Warren or Sanders can take him down. Biden is a moderate similar to Clinton who was beaten hands down.
Those two are too far left I think. I am working on the assumption that Biden wins Pennsylvania and one or more of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio. While Trump won, the Electoral College belies the kind of a squeaker it was and also how historically unpopular both candidates were.
Trump won by appealing to deplorables who otherwise don't turn up. A socialist like Warren - with a sack of freebies - would equally attract the fringe - students, progressives, independents, etc - who are repelled by mainstream politics. Hillary was a boring business-as-usual veteran that ensured low liberal turnout. There are lots of climate-loving, Green Party backers and tree-hugging hippies out there. Look at Germany or the UK. Assume GOP is the Tories. Democrats are Labor. Brexit Party and Lib Dems are the outliers attracted to radicals. In a duopoly these folks are disillusioned and need crazy ideas to excite them.
Yes, he appealed to those types to turn out. But even then, he only barely managed to win, aided by Hillary's unpopularity. That approach can only work for Republicans because they can be tribal. While Democrats have a bigger pool to work with, it's a less tribal and more diverse mix. So they cannot push one extreme issue like Republicans.
The liberal "tribes" are inequality, student debt, medical bills, climate change, etc. Sanders is a brazen socialist preaching 60% taxes. Warren wants a 30 trillion dollar free medical scheme and entitlements bonanza. Biden is Hillary's twin who will nail the battle and lose the war.
Bernie is an old dog who should step down for Warren. After he drops off his crowd will flock to Warren. Warren can beat Biden and take on Trump without suppressing turnout like Hillary. I hope the DNC learned the lesson not to bungle the primaries by favoring the mainstream candidate. Rigging in Biden is the surest path to defeat in the general elections.
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Those two are too far left I think. I am working on the assumption that Biden wins Pennsylvania and one or more of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio. While Trump won, the Electoral College belies the kind of a squeaker it was and also how historically unpopular both candidates were.
Trump won by appealing to deplorables who otherwise don't turn up. A socialist like Warren - with a sack of freebies - would equally attract the fringe - students, progressives, independents, etc - who are repelled by mainstream politics. Hillary was a boring business-as-usual veteran that ensured low liberal turnout. There are lots of climate-loving, Green Party backers and tree-hugging hippies out there. Look at Germany or the UK. Assume GOP is the Tories. Democrats are Labor. Brexit Party and Lib Dems are the outliers attracted to radicals. In a duopoly these folks are disillusioned and need crazy ideas to excite them.
Yes, he appealed to those types to turn out. But even then, he only barely managed to win, aided by Hillary's unpopularity. That approach can only work for Republicans because they can be tribal. While Democrats have a bigger pool to work with, it's a less tribal and more diverse mix. So they cannot push one extreme issue like Republicans.
The liberal "tribes" are inequality, student debt, medical bills, climate change, etc. Sanders is a brazen socialist preaching 60% taxes. Warren wants a 30 trillion dollar free medical scheme and entitlements bonanza. Biden is Hillary's twin who will nail the battle and lose the war.
Bernie is an old dog who should step down for Warren. After he drops off his crowd will flock to Warren. Warren can beat Biden and take on Trump without suppressing turnout like Hillary. I hope the DNC learned the lesson not to bungle the primaries by favoring the mainstream candidate. Rigging in Biden is the surest path to defeat in the general elections.
Warren at the top of the ticket will not attract enough independents though. It's easier to get the various tribes to settle for the lesser evil and just show up for Biden.
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Those two are too far left I think. I am working on the assumption that Biden wins Pennsylvania and one or more of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio. While Trump won, the Electoral College belies the kind of a squeaker it was and also how historically unpopular both candidates were.
Trump won by appealing to deplorables who otherwise don't turn up. A socialist like Warren - with a sack of freebies - would equally attract the fringe - students, progressives, independents, etc - who are repelled by mainstream politics. Hillary was a boring business-as-usual veteran that ensured low liberal turnout. There are lots of climate-loving, Green Party backers and tree-hugging hippies out there. Look at Germany or the UK. Assume GOP is the Tories. Democrats are Labor. Brexit Party and Lib Dems are the outliers attracted to radicals. In a duopoly these folks are disillusioned and need crazy ideas to excite them.
Yes, he appealed to those types to turn out. But even then, he only barely managed to win, aided by Hillary's unpopularity. That approach can only work for Republicans because they can be tribal. While Democrats have a bigger pool to work with, it's a less tribal and more diverse mix. So they cannot push one extreme issue like Republicans.
The liberal "tribes" are inequality, student debt, medical bills, climate change, etc. Sanders is a brazen socialist preaching 60% taxes. Warren wants a 30 trillion dollar free medical scheme and entitlements bonanza. Biden is Hillary's twin who will nail the battle and lose the war.
Bernie is an old dog who should step down for Warren. After he drops off his crowd will flock to Warren. Warren can beat Biden and take on Trump without suppressing turnout like Hillary. I hope the DNC learned the lesson not to bungle the primaries by favoring the mainstream candidate. Rigging in Biden is the surest path to defeat in the general elections.
Warren at the top of the ticket will not attract enough independents though. It's easier to get the various tribes to settle for the lesser evil and just show up for Biden.
Why couldn't the independents save the moderate Hillary? As a centrist Biden is worse. Hillary was leading the primaries by a mile but with her "blue wall" still lost to Trump. Those all-important swing tribes - deplorables, misfits, hippies, students - will fall for Trump or Warren or Sanders. Not Biden. A radical exciting the primaries is a good counterpunch to Trump. Bernie trailed Hillary throughout while Warren is leading. Biden is boring safe pair of hands.
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Hillary goes bazooka on Tulsi Gabbard.
Hillary Clinton hints Russia is grooming Tulsi Gabbard as third-party candidate
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/18/hillary-clinton-hints-russia-is-grooming-tulsi-gabbard-as-third-party-candidate
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Gabbard fires back.. this is some serious discord in the Democratic Party. I see it saving Gabbard's struggling campaign.
Tulsi Gabbard calls Hillary Clinton the ‘embodiment of corruption’
https://nypost.com/2019/10/18/tulsi-gabbard-calls-hillary-clinton-the-embodiment-of-corruption/
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Hillary goes bazooka on Tulsi Gabbard.
Hillary Clinton hints Russia is grooming Tulsi Gabbard as third-party candidate
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/18/hillary-clinton-hints-russia-is-grooming-tulsi-gabbard-as-third-party-candidate
What an idiot. This woman is quite possibly responsible for murder and a ton of corrupt deals she strung while her hubby was prezzo and even while she was working for Obama. She should shut up and go away. As bad as Trump is, I consider her worse. She was dangerously escalating things with Russia when she thought she was gonna be president and she's responsible for the mess in Libya.
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It's possibly a ploy to aid the Gabbard campaign.
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Gabbard fires back.. this is some serious discord in the Democratic Party. I see it saving Gabbard's struggling campaign.
Tulsi Gabbard calls Hillary Clinton the ‘embodiment of corruption’
https://nypost.com/2019/10/18/tulsi-gabbard-calls-hillary-clinton-the-embodiment-of-corruption/
Tulsi polls at 0.something %. So she is hopeless in the Democratic primary. Because Hillary isn’t a conspiracy nut, I find it hard to just dismiss her, though it would be nice if she put forth some evidence.
Generally I find Tulsi suspicious. She appears to be at home on shows like Tucker Carlson, which any self-respecting Dem avoids like a plague. I can’t quite put a finger on what her angle is.
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Gabbard fires back.. this is some serious discord in the Democratic Party. I see it saving Gabbard's struggling campaign.
Tulsi Gabbard calls Hillary Clinton the ‘embodiment of corruption’
https://nypost.com/2019/10/18/tulsi-gabbard-calls-hillary-clinton-the-embodiment-of-corruption/
Tulsi polls at 0.something %. So she is hopeless in the Democratic primary. Because Hillary isn’t a conspiracy nut, I find it hard to just dismiss her, though it would be nice if she put forth some evidence.
Generally I find Tulsi suspicious. She appears to be at home on shows like Tucker Carlson, which any self-respecting Dem avoids like a plague. I can’t quite put a finger on what her angle is.
Hillary is not a conspiracy nut, just a plain old liar. Tucker is anti-war, so he's fair to Tulsi, because that's her whole thing: regime-change wars. She goes on everyone's show because she's been treated horribly by the mainstream media. I've seen how they interview her and its disgraceful. Tucker is the only one who lets her talk, and that's only because he has become anti-war. The others started their anti-Tulsi stuff because she dared visit Syria and tell things as they were, and did not cave to the pressure to pretend Assad was an enemy of the U.S. The Russia thing is ridiculous. Even Trump is not a Russian puppet. I don't know how this stuff became acceptable talking points in the DNC but it's a bad look.
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Gabbard fires back.. this is some serious discord in the Democratic Party. I see it saving Gabbard's struggling campaign.
Tulsi Gabbard calls Hillary Clinton the ‘embodiment of corruption’
https://nypost.com/2019/10/18/tulsi-gabbard-calls-hillary-clinton-the-embodiment-of-corruption/
Tulsi polls at 0.something %. So she is hopeless in the Democratic primary. Because Hillary isn’t a conspiracy nut, I find it hard to just dismiss her, though it would be nice if she put forth some evidence.
Generally I find Tulsi suspicious. She appears to be at home on shows like Tucker Carlson, which any self-respecting Dem avoids like a plague. I can’t quite put a finger on what her angle is.
Hillary is not a conspiracy nut, just a plain old liar. Tucker is anti-war, so he's fair to Tulsi, because that's her whole thing: regime-change wars. She goes on everyone's show because she's been treated horribly by the mainstream media. I've seen how they interview her and its disgraceful. Tucker is the only one who lets her talk, and that's only because he has become anti-war. The others started their anti-Tulsi stuff because she dared visit Syria and tell things as they were, and did not cave to the pressure to pretend Assad was an enemy of the U.S. The Russia thing is ridiculous. Even Trump is not a Russian puppet. I don't know how this stuff became acceptable talking points in the DNC but it's a bad look.
Hillary is no saint. But because she is not a compulsive liar like Trump, I can’t understand why she would lie about Tulsi. What’s in it for her?
Syria is a mess, regime change being the immediate cause. But regime change is not the underlying problem of Syria. Remove regime change and you still have a country under the yoke of minority, and indeed brutal, rule. In those situations it’s usually a matter of time before shit hits the fan.
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Trump is a nationalist: it's his raison d'être. But the stuff he says and does while commonsense to the world rattles politically sanitized America. I mean plain ideas as: Why does the US give aid to corrupt Ukraine and not the EU? Why should the US secure the Kurds? I know there is ISIS and all but if the US had kept off the WMD and Arab Spring nonsense the Middle East would be a much better place. They went to deal with al Qaeda and created bigger monstrosities. We now all know all kinds of terror outfits - they robbed us of blissful innocence. The Arab Spring of course morphed into the European Spring. The alt-tight and Brexit were energized by those misadventures. Give me Saddam and Assad any day in lieu of the millions dead, maimed, orphaned, scarred, displaced and impoverished.
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Trump is on his way to an easy win in 2020, according to Moody’s accurate election model
PUBLISHED TUE, OCT 15 201911:33 AM EDTUPDATED TUE, OCT 15 20195:55 PM EDT
KEY POINTS
- President Donald Trump will win reelection easily in 2020 if the economy holds up, modeling by Moody’s Analytics shows.
- “If voters were to vote primarily on the basis of their pocketbooks, the president would steamroll the competition,” the report states.
- Three models show Trump getting at least 289 electoral votes and as many as 351, assuming average turnout.
- The Moody’s models have been backtested to 1980 and were correct each time — except in 2016, when it indicated Clinton would get a narrow victory.
(https://fm-static.cnbc.com/awsmedia/chart/2019/10/15/trump%20moodys.1571152629128.png)
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/15/moodys-trump-on-his-way-to-an-easy-2020-win-if-economy-holds-up.html
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Not good
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I see the moron winning 2020 easy.
I work in the healthcare system, and I dont see any evidence of the "nailing".
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Beto drops off. I never got how the senate loser is ripe for the WH
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Enter Mike the Bloomberg
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Enter Mike the Bloomberg
I can't put a finger on Bloomberg's designs. But he could be more scared of an Elizabeth Warren than 4 more years of what would be an even more unhinged Trump
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Enter Mike the Bloomberg
Mike is there to run ads and try to drown Trumps big mouth, not win.
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Can a Jew become POTUS?
Enter Mike the Bloomberg
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Can a Jew become POTUS?
Enter Mike the Bloomberg
Yes but Bloomberg isn't the chosen one. I think only Warren can beat Trump. By appealing to the liberal fringe of students and hippies to match the deplorables.
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Can a Jew become POTUS?
Enter Mike the Bloomberg
Yes but Bloomberg isn't the chosen one. I think only Warren can beat Trump. By appealing to the liberal fringe of students and hippies to match the deplorables.
Warren would turn away a lot of conservative leaning independents. This country is still overall more conservative than the small liberal leaning enclaves some of us find ourselves in.
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Can a Jew become POTUS?
Enter Mike the Bloomberg
Yes but Bloomberg isn't the chosen one. I think only Warren can beat Trump. By appealing to the liberal fringe of students and hippies to match the deplorables.
Warren would turn away a lot of conservative leaning independents. This country is still overall more conservative than the small liberal leaning enclaves some of us find ourselves in.
Only the turnout in swing states matters. Hillary couldn't get any of the fringe out. Old Biden is Hillary 2.0. Trump is not your conventional candidate.