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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: vooke on October 08, 2019, 03:04:29 PM
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I used to hear that Saddam gassed some Kurds with WMDs now I know why. Kurds are mere pawns of the US. Trump abandoning them has at least 8 precedents spanning a whole century
...What Krugman left out, however, is the most likely explanation: (d) Trump is president of the United States. Nothing in this world is certain except death, taxes, and America betraying the Kurds.
The U.S. has now betrayed the Kurds a minimum of eight times over the past 100 years. The reasons for this are straightforward.
The Kurds are an ethnic group of about 40 million people centered at the intersection of Turkey, Syria, Iran, and Iraq. Many naturally want their own state. The four countries in which they live naturally do not want that to happen.
On the one hand, the Kurds are a perfect tool for U.S. foreign policy. We can arm the Kurds in whichever of these countries is currently our enemy, whether to make trouble for that country’s government or to accomplish various other objectives. On the other hand, we don’t want the Kurds we’re utilizing to ever get too powerful. If that happened, the other Kurds — i.e., the ones living just across the border in whichever of these countries are currently our allies — might get ideas about freedom and independence.....
https://theintercept.com/2019/10/07/kurds-syria-turkey-trump-betrayal/
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Kurds are back to Assad fold. There is no room for fencesitters in Wildernesstan.
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I used to hear that Saddam gassed some Kurds with WMDs now I know why. Kurds are mere pawns of the US. Trump abandoning them has at least 8 precedents spanning a whole century
...What Krugman left out, however, is the most likely explanation: (d) Trump is president of the United States. Nothing in this world is certain except death, taxes, and America betraying the Kurds.
The U.S. has now betrayed the Kurds a minimum of eight times over the past 100 years. The reasons for this are straightforward.
The Kurds are an ethnic group of about 40 million people centered at the intersection of Turkey, Syria, Iran, and Iraq. Many naturally want their own state. The four countries in which they live naturally do not want that to happen.
On the one hand, the Kurds are a perfect tool for U.S. foreign policy. We can arm the Kurds in whichever of these countries is currently our enemy, whether to make trouble for that country’s government or to accomplish various other objectives. On the other hand, we don’t want the Kurds we’re utilizing to ever get too powerful. If that happened, the other Kurds — i.e., the ones living just across the border in whichever of these countries are currently our allies — might get ideas about freedom and independence.....
https://theintercept.com/2019/10/07/kurds-syria-turkey-trump-betrayal/ (https://theintercept.com/2019/10/07/kurds-syria-turkey-trump-betrayal/)
The current betrayal is not strategic but impulsive. With impeachment happening, tax returns on the verge of being exposed and caging brown children no longer fashionable, Trump will lash out wherever he can in order to cause a distraction. Everything at his disposal, including nuclear codes, he will use to save his skin if he can get away with it.
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Trump has no expert on foreign policy in his kitchen cabinet. Hence his knee jerk reaction after the telephone call to Erdogan. Soon it might leak that Erdogan threated to stop the construction of the Trump Tower in Istanbul.
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Trump has no expert on foreign policy in his kitchen cabinet. Hence his knee jerk reaction after the telephone call to Erdogan. Soon it might leak that Erdogan threated to stop the construction of the Trump Tower in Istanbul.
He has virtually rid his entire top echelons of knowledgeable people. A good portion of his cabinet are now in acting capacity as yes men, and he seems to want it that way. It's a pretty shocking demonstration of how fragile systems of government can be in the wrong(right) hands.
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Trump has no expert on foreign policy in his kitchen cabinet. Hence his knee jerk reaction after the telephone call to Erdogan. Soon it might leak that Erdogan threated to stop the construction of the Trump Tower in Istanbul.
He has virtually rid his entire top echelons of knowledgeable people. A good portion of his cabinet are now in acting capacity as yes men, and he seems to want it that way. It's a pretty shocking demonstration of how fragile systems of government can be in the wrong(right) hands.
Even Bolton couldn't stand him
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Sounds like Sonko & Trump are cut from one piece but they remain somehow popular - defying common wisdom.
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Yep mavericks. The clown and foolishness is an act - which shows how good they are.
Sounds like Sonko & Trump are cut from one piece but they remain somehow popular - defying common wisdom.
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Even Bolton couldn't stand him
Bolton is an evil warmonger who was salivating over war with Iran the moment trump got elected. But you're right. The U.S. has an ugly history of throwing pple to the wolves when it no longer serves their interests.
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America would be a banana republic if it lost all its wealthm without economic power would just fall apart. Now that the White male is unsure of his future he is feeling the heat. Nations even empires are fragile. They need to be safeguarded and constant vigilance. Trump is a symptom the disease is still untreated. The disease is that a lot of americand feel they are not doing well. They have been used and dumped by capitalists who have no soul. The economic insecurity has to be addressed.
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Trump has no expert on foreign policy in his kitchen cabinet. Hence his knee jerk reaction after the telephone call to Erdogan. Soon it might leak that Erdogan threated to stop the construction of the Trump Tower in Istanbul.
He has virtually rid his entire top echelons of knowledgeable people. A good portion of his cabinet are now in acting capacity as yes men, and he seems to want it that way. It's a pretty shocking demonstration of how fragile systems of government can be in the wrong(right) hands.
Even Bolton couldn't stand him
Bolton is an policy wonk. Trump has nothing remotely resembling a coherent world view outside of this or that shady deal to benefit his bottomline. They were bound to fall out.
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America would be a banana republic if it lost all its wealthm without economic power would just fall apart. Now that the White male is unsure of his future he is feeling the heat. Nations even empires are fragile. They need to be safeguarded and constant vigilance. Trump is a symptom the disease is still untreated. The disease is that a lot of americand feel they are not doing well. They have been used and dumped by capitalists who have no soul. The economic insecurity has to be addressed.
The economic anxiety rationalization has been debunked. Most Trump voters were actually relatively well off people. Demographic anxiety(racism) was the best predictor of a Trump supporter.
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Who told you Trump is popular? Maybe among the Rednecks. His approval ratings have never past 50%. At the moment around 40% with even a majority of voters being of the opnion that he should be impeached. Anyway, he does not need the majority in the popular vote, only the majority in the college vote.
Sounds like Sonko & Trump are cut from one piece but they remain somehow popular - defying common wisdom.
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America would be a banana republic if it lost all its wealthm without economic power would just fall apart. Now that the White male is unsure of his future he is feeling the heat. Nations even empires are fragile. They need to be safeguarded and constant vigilance. Trump is a symptom the disease is still untreated. The disease is that a lot of americand feel they are not doing well. They have been used and dumped by capitalists who have no soul. The economic insecurity has to be addressed.
The economic anxiety rationalization has been debunked. Most Trump voters were actually relatively well off people. Demographic anxiety(racism) was the best predictor of a Trump supporter.
Saying there is no economic anxiety is just not true. Race was what brought these feeelings about.. Most well to do whitemen had a very assured life before dot.com era when globalisation took off. The demographic changes has now proven that there is no way out of their predicament and that has created some type anarchist siege mentality...remember teapartism is grassroots led. On postmortem analysis. These anxiety is there but very hidden. In The corporate world that i am familiar with most of these people cannot speak openly about it but they constantly afraid that they will lose it all. Remember America is a very individualistic place. The appearance of affluence is not the reality anymore
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Trumpism is deep and if he is impeached and voted out it won't be the end. At the end of this a huge debt and a lot economic abracadabra that has been going on to keep the party on. Once the burst cycle comes around again in a few years it will be another decade of hell. I think capitalism in USA has peaked. The GIG economy is a fad. It will die with a lot of hopes and dreams..nature too will start demanding its pound of flesh..california is almost unhabitable and most of the food belts are getting degraded year after year by "lifetime of floods"....the party is over...call me Dr doom but it deosnt look that promising
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America has gone tribal..whitemen are being dragged kicking screaming by their own women and being punished for centuries of patriarchy.. The whitewomen are now demanding their Obama moment and the battle hardened African American women are the drill sergeants.. Then you have millennials who are telling parents or their grand parents to stick that American macmasion where the moon doesn't shine...baby booomer are now in a limbo not knowing if their nest egg will ever be edible...every group is going anarchist they want the chess board smashed and a new one rebuilt...this not only in USA it is everywhere ..europe is detonating Civil wars daily ...brexit and now Syria is just going to make this winter a long one
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America has gone tribal..whitemen are being dragged kicking screaming by their own women and being punished for centuries of patriarchy.. The whitewomen are now demanding their Obama moment and the battle hardened African American women are the drill sergeants.. Then you have millennials who are telling parents or their grand parents to stick that American macmasion where the moon doesn't shine...baby booomer are now in a limbo not knowing if their nest egg will ever be edible...every group is going anarchist they want the chess board smashed and a new one rebuilt...this not only in USA it is everywhere ..europe is detonating Civil wars daily ...brexit and now Syria is just going to make this winter a long one
it's baffling the number of anglo-saxons fighting for ISIL.. the guys who beheaded Fowley are british. about feminism & patriarchy - white women are the pivot and will never allow a racial coup. they scapegoat their men.
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These poor Kurds need to run to Asad and Putin's bossom. Trump is a real moron.
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Funny orangeman claims without a flinch that the US wiped out ISIL. These hard job was done by Russia. Flat flies. Iraq was liberated by Iran a few months after the marines abandoned it after 13 years of blunders.
This account is mostly accurate if you straighten out a few pro-Russia slants
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Surely, has the US gone this low? even Arap Moi in his heydays would have never made such a statement.
Now the Kurds have no choice but to head to Assad's arms meaning Putin's.
The US president told reporters that the Kurds “didn’t help us in the second world war, they didn’t help us with Normandy as an example – they mention the names of different battles, they weren’t there”,
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These poor Kurds need to run to Asad and Putin's bossom. Trump is a real moron.
Being a Kurd is a bit like being an antelope in the Serengeti. Surrounded by predators. Always fighting against one or more groups out for your extermination. If they support Assad, he will turn on them once he is assured of his position.
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These poor Kurds need to run to Asad and Putin's bossom. Trump is a real moron.
Being a Kurd is a bit like being an antelope in the Serengeti. Surrounded by predators. Always fighting against one or more groups out for your extermination. If they support Assad, he will turn on them once he is assured of his position.
Kurds should place their bet on the Shiite. Since they are mainly situated in Syria, Iraq and Iran. Assad and his Alawites are a tiny minority married to the Shiite for survival. Hafez Assad - Bashar's dad - courted Iran by associating with the Shiite, then appeased Saddam by cloaking in the Ba'ath Party flag.
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These poor Kurds need to run to Asad and Putin's bossom. Trump is a real moron.
Putin is allies with Assad and Erdogan so I have no idea what guerrillas would give that the autocrats are not giving.
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Kurds have made an alliance with syrian govt and Russia to counter turkey ...trump may have been played by Russia
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Trump has not been played, he just does not have a clue of what he has done.
Kurds have made an alliance with syrian govt and Russia to counter turkey ...trump may have been played by Russia
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Russia and Iran are the big winners of this madness. Israel and US are the big losers. Syria of course is firmly back in stone age.
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Trump has not been played, he just does not have a clue of what he has done.
Kurds have made an alliance with syrian govt and Russia to counter turkey ...trump may have been played by Russia
Or maybe he does. In the same fashion a hostage of Putin would.
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He has now backtracked and demanding Turkey's withdrawal from Syrian territory. Too late. The damage is already done and the Kurds will now have to ally themselves with Assad and Putin.
Or maybe he does. In the same fashion a hostage of Putin would.
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Trump is not clueless. More a don't care and a nationalist. Why should the US control or secure Syria? Russia and Europe should lead the charge. It's the classic nationalist view. Israel gets a pass for the powerful Jewish lobby which would be a political catastrophe.
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Trump is not clueless. More a don't care and a nationalist. Why should the US control or secure Syria? Russia and Europe should lead the charge. It's the classic nationalist view. Israel gets a pass for the powerful Jewish lobby which would be a political catastrophe.
He is not clueless. But I think for different and more personal reasons other nationalism. Otherwise he would not be sending more troops to Saudi Arabia.
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He has now backtracked and demanding Turkey's withdrawal from Syrian territory. Too late. The damage is already done and the Kurds will now have to ally themselves with Assad and Putin.
Or maybe he does. In the same fashion a hostage of Putin would.
I will watch what Turkey does. That is more informative than anything that comes out of this White House about what the deal is. If Turkey ignores it, it's probably just another misleading press release for consumption by his base.
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Trump has tightened sanctions on Moscow. Beats your blackmail narrative. Saudi are milked quite dry for the military support. It is not for free. I believe the US incites the Sunni-Shiite enmity to sustain the war market. It is strategic that the Saudis are not given any training manual along with the shipfuls of armory. You can argue whether it is a very lucrative war or idiocy market. Bibi and his generals must crack ribs as they enjoy the Yemeni comedy.
He is not clueless. But I think for different and more personal reasons other nationalism. Otherwise he would not be sending more troops to Saudi Arabia.
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Trump has tightened sanctions on Moscow. Beats your blackmail narrative. Saudi are milked quite dry for the military support. It is not for free. I believe the US incites the Sunni-Shiite enmity to sustain the war market. It is strategic that the Saudis are not given any training manual along with the shipfuls of armory. You can argue whether it is a very lucrative war or idiocy market. Bibi and his generals must crack ribs as they enjoy the Yemeni comedy.
He is not clueless. But I think for different and more personal reasons other nationalism. Otherwise he would not be sending more troops to Saudi Arabia.
The sanctions are mostly things he couldn't openly oppose from Congress. But even if you grant him that on the balance, Putin is a happy camper and wants him back in 2020.
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The sanctions are mostly things he couldn't openly oppose from Congress. But even if you grant him that on the balance, Putin is a happy camper and wants him back in 2020.
You are prolly right - in that I would not suspect collusion as the smoking gun. Because Congress and the Dems would sanction Russia into bankruptcy. They have a bone with Pundit. Trump could be owning a golf course in St Petersburg.
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Al-Baghdadi is dead? Seen on AT&T. Looks like Trump's Bin Laden moment.
CNN story: Al-Baghdadi detonated suicide vest, official says https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2019/10/27/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-death-vpx.cnn
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Al-Baghdadi is dead? Seen on AT&T. Looks like Trump's Bin Laden moment.
CNN story: Al-Baghdadi detonated suicide vest, official says https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2019/10/27/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-death-vpx.cnn
How many lives does he has?
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This another ali Baghdad bagdhadi Not the caliphate leader one
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Al-Baghdadi is dead? Seen on AT&T. Looks like Trump's Bin Laden moment.
CNN story: Al-Baghdadi detonated suicide vest, official says https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2019/10/27/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-death-vpx.cnn
I just found out he was the leader of ISIS. He is less known than Bin Laden because he didn’t kill 3,000 in New York. Trump will clumsily ride him for 3 days tops before the impeachment inquiry and leaks reclaim center stage.
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Al-Baghdadi is dead? Seen on AT&T. Looks like Trump's Bin Laden moment.
CNN story: Al-Baghdadi detonated suicide vest, official says https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2019/10/27/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-death-vpx.cnn
I just found out he was the leader of ISIS. He is less known than Bin Laden because he didn’t kill 3,000 in New York. Trump will clumsily ride him for 3 days tops before the impeachment inquiry and leaks reclaim center stage.
It was to dilute the Syria-Kurds blunder.