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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2019, 06:36:13 AM

Title: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2019, 06:36:13 AM
This is new. The duo would be a powerful Team Kenya. But they are suspicious hungry vultures.


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Deputy President William Ruto chats with opposition chief Raila Odinga during the Third Kenya Trade Week and Expo at the Kenyatta International Convention Centre yesterday. [DPPS]

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001334049/ruto-raila-jointly-launch-national-export-strategy
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2019, 07:19:07 AM
Not happening as long as Raila is about fulfilling his father dreams of being pork even for a second.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2019, 07:46:05 AM
Babu can be ceremonial president, Ruto executive prime minister.


Not happening as long as Raila is about fulfilling his father dreams of being pork even for a second.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2019, 08:19:38 AM
Not when Ruto has clear shot at being both.You have to ammend the katiba first.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Kichwa on July 16, 2019, 04:30:14 PM
BTW, what happened to Raila Kwisha? So much for your self acclaimed infallible punditry skills.    Ouru is really enjoying his new found friendship with Raila because it adds something to his plate as opposed to Ruto who had out-lived his usefulness to Ouru and was actually a negative to him.  Ouru is not going back to those dark days when he could not transverse the country and enjoy the almost total calmness, stability, popularity and good will.  This is the dream of a politician and he will not sacrifice it for Ruto. In fact Ruto had become a political liability because he is now the face of corruption, instability and divisionary politics. Ouru has really found Raila's  valuable in the international scene, especially in Africa where Raila has many friends.  Mt. Kenya still has a juggernaut on the presidency and they do not want to repeat the mistake of 1978. Ruto is asking them to do what Moi asked them to do in 1978 when they lost the presidency for 28 years. They are not therefore letting the presidency go and with Raila on their side, Ruto cannot take the presidency from them by force.  Ruto is therefore locked out of the presidency for all practical purposes.  Raila's offer of a power sharing deal with Uthamaki is more salable. The issue remaining is how are the Kalenjin going to be appeased without Ruto. That's where Man Gidi comes in.

Not when Ruto has clear shot at being both.You have to ammend the katiba first.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2019, 04:46:06 PM
Well, Kichwa, of course Ruto is kím?nd? aka Enemy of the State. Akicheza soon he might become "armed and dangerous". H. E. Eng. K. Kibicho, PhD and the Deep State are watching.. 8)

Me, I think Babu is taking Uhuru for a ride... for the common good of Kenya. Babu would battle for PM with Ruto - neither of the latter duo is flowergirl material. But once we have a properly accountable Exec plus federalism - I don't care too much which wolf lands the job.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2019, 04:48:08 PM
As for RV Pundit's dispassionate analysis .. hehe chema chajiuza. Sisemi kitu mimi.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2019, 05:14:51 PM
Kichwa,all good except Ruto is not waiting to be made PORK by anybody, he will make himself PORK.Just watch Ruto do it. Uhuru has term limit to go through. Let him and Raila navigate that first...before you can dream about 2022.

You're doing a deal with somebody who is going home :) . That is akin to waiting for Kibaki in 2022 to endorse you. Kalonzo waited. Mudavadi waited. Raila prayed but Kibaki simply disengaged and disappeared.

Yes Uhuru is happy now - but come 2022 - he will go MIA and retire quietly - leaving Ruto to devour Raila.

BTW, what happened to Raila Kwisha? So much for your self acclaimed infallible punditry skills.    Ouru is really enjoying his new found friendship with Raila because it adds something to his plate as opposed to Ruto who had out-lived his usefulness to Ouru and was actually a negative to him.  Ouru is not going back to those dark days when he could not transverse the country and enjoy the almost total calmness, stability, popularity and good will.  This is the dream of a politician and he will not sacrifice it for Ruto. In fact Ruto had become a political liability because he is now the face of corruption, instability and divisionary politics. Ouru has really found Raila's  valuable in the international scene, especially in Africa where Raila has many friends.  Mt. Kenya still has a juggernaut on the presidency and they do not want to repeat the mistake of 1978. Ruto is asking them to do what Moi asked them to do in 1978 when they lost the presidency for 28 years. They are not therefore letting the presidency go and with Raila on their side, Ruto cannot take the presidency from them by force.  Ruto is therefore locked out of the presidency for all practical purposes.  Raila's offer of a power sharing deal with Uthamaki is more salable. The issue remaining is how are the Kalenjin going to be appeased without Ruto. That's where Man Gidi comes in.

Not when Ruto has clear shot at being both.You have to ammend the katiba first.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Kichwa on July 16, 2019, 05:23:25 PM
Ok, just share with us Ruto's path to the presidency and let us be the judge of whether its realistic or based on wishful thinking.

Kichwa,all good except Ruto is not waiting to be made PORK by anybody, he will make himself PORK.Just watch Ruto do it. Uhuru has term limit to go through. Let him and Raila navigate that first...before you can dream about 2022.

You're doing a deal with somebody who is going home :) . That is akin to waiting for Kibaki in 2022 to endorse you. Kalonzo waited. Mudavadi waited. Raila prayed but Kibaki simply disengaged and disappeared.

Yes Uhuru is happy now - but come 2022 - he will go MIA and retire quietly - leaving Ruto to devour Raila.

BTW, what happened to Raila Kwisha? So much for your self acclaimed infallible punditry skills.    Ouru is really enjoying his new found friendship with Raila because it adds something to his plate as opposed to Ruto who had out-lived his usefulness to Ouru and was actually a negative to him.  Ouru is not going back to those dark days when he could not transverse the country and enjoy the almost total calmness, stability, popularity and good will.  This is the dream of a politician and he will not sacrifice it for Ruto. In fact Ruto had become a political liability because he is now the face of corruption, instability and divisionary politics. Ouru has really found Raila's  valuable in the international scene, especially in Africa where Raila has many friends.  Mt. Kenya still has a juggernaut on the presidency and they do not want to repeat the mistake of 1978. Ruto is asking them to do what Moi asked them to do in 1978 when they lost the presidency for 28 years. They are not therefore letting the presidency go and with Raila on their side, Ruto cannot take the presidency from them by force.  Ruto is therefore locked out of the presidency for all practical purposes.  Raila's offer of a power sharing deal with Uthamaki is more salable. The issue remaining is how are the Kalenjin going to be appeased without Ruto. That's where Man Gidi comes in.

Not when Ruto has clear shot at being both.You have to ammend the katiba first.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2019, 05:29:42 PM
There is only one path to the presidency in Kenya. Winning 50+1 by campaigning very very hard. That is what Ruto as always done. Ruto is ought there - campaigning hard- he already has completed 300 campaign cum development cum fundraising meetings in Kenya in last 2yrs. By 2022 - he would have done maybe 1,500 such visits - and that will reflect in the final results.

Everywhere you go Ruto popularity is very high. All the new spanky roads are called Ruto roads. That is a huge voter winner. Ruto is also investing heavily in churches. In the meantime, Raila has held 100 funeral dirges.... as he prepares for his political funeral.

Deals are easy to make. They are made in the last few days. Why would Ruto worry about deal-making now - when he has a chance to sell his vision now, to build political network now, to win over foes, and to buy off those whose prices he can afford?

Ok, just share with us Ruto's path to the presidency and let us be the judge of whether its realistic or based on wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2019, 05:35:50 PM
Of course Chema cha Jiuza. You know how bad your record is compared to mine.
As for RV Pundit's dispassionate analysis .. hehe chema chajiuza. Sisemi kitu mimi.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2019, 08:11:53 PM
In your self-aggrandisement yes - just like your genius hero - you're another Pundit the Magnificent Oracle.

Of course Chema cha Jiuza. You know how bad your record is compared to mine.
As for RV Pundit's dispassionate analysis .. hehe chema chajiuza. Sisemi kitu mimi.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2019, 08:23:25 PM
Ruto's apprehensions, misgivings, loathing, tantrums, his chihuahua noises - the whining - all adverbs in the dictionary - show what a big deal the Handshake is. It struck him like an iceberg - a boobie trap that blew his plan into pieces. Your brave face is dancing on a very dicy platform.


There is only one path to the presidency in Kenya. Winning 50+1 by campaigning very very hard. That is what Ruto as always done. Ruto is ought there - campaigning hard- he already has completed 300 campaign cum development cum fundraising meetings in Kenya in last 2yrs. By 2022 - he would have done maybe 1,500 such visits - and that will reflect in the final results.

Everywhere you go Ruto popularity is very high. All the new spanky roads are called Ruto roads. That is a huge voter winner. Ruto is also investing heavily in churches. In the meantime, Raila has held 100 funeral dirges.... as he prepares for his political funeral.

Deals are easy to make. They are made in the last few days. Why would Ruto worry about deal-making now - when he has a chance to sell his vision now, to build political network now, to win over foes, and to buy off those whose prices he can afford?
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2019, 08:28:16 PM
Going by the dismal std of Ruto genius - if it was Ruto who pulled Trojan 2 so meticulously - Pundit would be compiling acres of insha to praise him. But we are only humble folks.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: vooke on July 16, 2019, 09:05:23 PM
I’m far from convinced that Uhuru has dumped Ruto.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2019, 09:55:26 PM
I’m far from convinced that Uhuru has dumped Ruto.

Elaborate. Top of mind - the manhandling of Tanga Tanga midgets by the machinery suggests trouble.



Detectives close in on Waititu in Kiambu's Sh588m graft case
TUESDAY JULY 16 2019

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Kiambu Governor Ferdinand Waititu. He is a man under siege with EACC officials looking for him after DPP Noordin Haji having authorised his arrest and arraignment over alleged corruption. PHOTO | FILE | NATION MEDIA GROUP

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Mr Waititu, his wife Susan Wangari and their daughter Monica Njeri are the directors of M/S Testimony Enterprise.

The company was allegedly irregularly awarded tenders to improve roads in the county in 2018.

The governor is also accused of using his position to siphon away millions of shillings through money laundering.

https://www.nation.co.ke/counties/kiambu/Waititu-under-siege-in-Sh588m-graft-probe/1183274-5198096-nfmq5d/index.html
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Kichwa on July 16, 2019, 10:25:40 PM
Its difficult to reason with someone who is living a lie. Only one elections-2002 was won fair and square.  The servers for 2017 elections have not even been opened yet.  Even by your old standards and mantra that, "elections in Kenya are purely tribal", Ruto cannot win without Ouru. If you combine that with "government interference", then Ruto's path is only through Ouru helping him steal. At this time I do not think Ruto's presidency is high up in Ouru's priorities.

There is only one path to the presidency in Kenya. Winning 50+1 by campaigning very very hard. That is what Ruto as always done. Ruto is ought there - campaigning hard- he already has completed 300 campaign cum development cum fundraising meetings in Kenya in last 2yrs. By 2022 - he would have done maybe 1,500 such visits - and that will reflect in the final results.

Everywhere you go Ruto popularity is very high. All the new spanky roads are called Ruto roads. That is a huge voter winner. Ruto is also investing heavily in churches. In the meantime, Raila has held 100 funeral dirges.... as he prepares for his political funeral.

Deals are easy to make. They are made in the last few days. Why would Ruto worry about deal-making now - when he has a chance to sell his vision now, to build political network now, to win over foes, and to buy off those whose prices he can afford?

Ok, just share with us Ruto's path to the presidency and let us be the judge of whether its realistic or based on wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2019, 05:18:18 AM
Robina, kibicho n Nancy selective purge against Ruto men doesn't mean Uhuru has one strategy.Uhuru is a system.He listen to conflicting interests driven advice everyday.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 17, 2019, 10:01:34 AM
Ruto and Babu are also systems. Part of ODM want him to run for PORK. Supporters like myself want him to change the system then retire. But there are actions that only he can and does - such as Handshake. Kibicho has no power over the system - CSs, PSs, DCI, NIS, DPP. The hounding of Mt Kenya rebels in Tanga Tanga - that is Uhuru 101.

Noone is saying Uhuru has one strategy. He wants to corner Gema then deal later - for PM or whatever - nobody buys the "Ruto is trustworthy" abuwasi joke. Gema are too clever to swallow the bait.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2019, 10:14:27 AM
At least you admit to be Raila supporters. Part of me tell me Uhuru want to finish his term and retire to quiet life to combat his cancer.
Ruto and Babu are also systems. Part of ODM want him to run for PORK. Supporters like myself want him to change the system then retire. But there are actions that only he can and does - such as Handshake. Kibicho has no power over the system - CSs, PSs, DCI, NIS, DPP. The hounding of Mt Kenya rebels in Tanga Tanga - that is Uhuru 101.

Noone is saying Uhuru has one strategy. He wants to corner Gema then deal later - for PM or whatever - nobody buys the "Ruto is trustworthy" abuwasi joke. Gema are too clever to swallow the bait.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 17, 2019, 12:02:31 PM
What does the other part tell you?

At least you admit to be Raila supporters. Part of me tell me Uhuru want to finish his term and retire to quiet life to combat his cancer.
Ruto and Babu are also systems. Part of ODM want him to run for PORK. Supporters like myself want him to change the system then retire. But there are actions that only he can and does - such as Handshake. Kibicho has no power over the system - CSs, PSs, DCI, NIS, DPP. The hounding of Mt Kenya rebels in Tanga Tanga - that is Uhuru 101.

Noone is saying Uhuru has one strategy. He wants to corner Gema then deal later - for PM or whatever - nobody buys the "Ruto is trustworthy" abuwasi joke. Gema are too clever to swallow the bait.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2019, 12:18:51 PM
The other part tell me Uhuru could be open to exploring extending his term but someone's else as to do the donkey work.Uhuru is a lazy pampered mama boy.Nancy n Kibicho are going to take WSR with their bare hands.Raila is now neutered to Luo Nyanza so his help hasn't been of much traction.Gideon Moi and MaDVD are terrible while Kalonzo outside Ukambani is ajoke.Ruto is the juggernaut
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 17, 2019, 05:13:03 PM
I’m far from convinced that Uhuru has dumped Ruto.

He seems to shit on the hustler's head whenever he feels like going for number 2.  If this is indeed a joint plot, then they are next level wizards.  I don't think they are next level wizards.  It's just more likely Baba has handed kamwana the get out of jail card from whatever "deal" the hustler must have thought they had.
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: Nefertiti on July 17, 2019, 07:12:22 PM
I’m far from convinced that Uhuru has dumped Ruto.

He seems to shit on the hustler's head whenever he feels like going for number 2.  If this is indeed a joint plot, then they are next level wizards.  I don't think they are next level wizards.  It's just more likely Baba has handed kamwana the get out of jail card from whatever "deal" the hustler must have thought they had.

The "deal" was too good for smart alec to pull wool over Gema. He got 50-50, outlooted the boss, stuffed Jogoo Party to the choke with his Duales.. then ati "tumupatie mukate ingine muzima atorewe wapi?"
Title: Re: Ruto, Raila jointly launch national export strategy
Post by: MOON Ki on July 22, 2019, 11:56:15 PM
To export what?