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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
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Those trying to stop the train with their bare hands.
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In the meantime Gema say a firm no to Dr Sleaze
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Allogantly allogating them to GEMA. GEMA Org was opposed to Moi but Moi became PORK. That is Peter Munga - the Muranga billionaire - doing his thing. He is the key cog of Anti-Ruto brigade.
The problem like I told you - it is easy to oppose something - but what options are they giving GEMA. RAIRA :) :) That is like selling pork in Saudi Arabia.
Uhuru to become Raila shamba boy :) - Uhuru is not that desperate :)
In the meantime Gema say a firm no to Dr Sleaze
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Sure you can allogantly tell us what Uhuru wants - and also put Muhoho as dynasty rep in your upteenth meme. Gema have said no to the Lord of Graft & Violence - and that's why you're here teaching us about Muhoho. Perhaps you can tell us about the dams? Or Mau rehabilitation. Where your boy's efficiency is actually needed. Folks drop dead in Baringo and Pokot from drought every year but your PhD wetlands is obsessed with Zendro. Noone ever starve to death in Gema, jiggers ain't lethal.
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I think you just replaced labels on Itumbi's wakora network. You forgot old Muthaura? Sioni yeye hapo.
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I didn't make that infographic. I got it from fakepuke.
Sure you can allogantly tell us what Uhuru wants - and also put Muhoho as dynasty rep in your upteenth meme. Gema have said no to the Lord of Graft & Violence - and that's why you're here teaching us about Muhoho. Perhaps you can tell us about the dams? Or Mau rehabilitation. Where your boy's efficiency is actually needed. Folks drop dead in Baringo and Pokot from drought every year but your PhD wetlands is obsessed with Zendro. Noone ever starve to death in Gema, jiggers ain't lethal.
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I think whoever made this infographic is pretty accurate. I would proceed to make pro-Ruto camp. And the moderate camp. I think Uhuru sits at top all these gangs.
I think you just replaced labels on Itumbi's wakora network. You forgot old Muthaura? Sioni yeye hapo.
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Here is Ruto ganga according to fakepuke. Look like Adil Adil Khawaja & Mburu are the money launders:)
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That's a nice spin - as your Dark Forces evolve. Now Jezebel and Kibicho are mere juniors. Ati Munya is Assistant Deputy What? I agree - it healthy for your dispassionate punditry - every theory need to evolve as new challenges emerge. Ask your spin doctor - fresh from the slinger with a vengeance :) - to loop in Joho. Ama he is not dynasty enough?
I think whoever made this infographic is pretty accurate. I would proceed to make pro-Ruto camp. And the moderate camp. I think Uhuru sits at top all these gangs.
I think you just replaced labels on Itumbi's wakora network. You forgot old Muthaura? Sioni yeye hapo.
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If you know me long enough, you would know I value honesty.If I make a list or graph - I would clearly say so. I will definitely make MOASS when the time come - after analyzing all the ins and outs.
My punditry is always dispassionate.
What it means is simple.I am objective with facts and subjective with my opinions.
I am not involved in any shade or form in real politics. What I try to do as hobby is to make political sense out of publicly available info in the media - by separating facts & figures - from opinions & projections - to determine what is rational, what is credible, what is probable and what could happen - and try NOT to get carried away by my own subjective perspective & wishful thinking.
You should try to do the same. Separate your wishful thinking from reality and try to hard-nosed rationality. I know you wish to see the parliamentary system and Ruto out - but let that not cloud your political perspective. Otherwise, you'll not be any different from any random Raila automaton.
That Uhuru will accept to be Raila's Mtu wa Mkono (PM) after being PORK for 2 terms doesn't not, for example, pass the smell tests. It's a fake. Any political prediction based on that happening is outrightly stupid.
Uhuru removing term limits and extending his rule is very appealing to Uhuru. That is a a real possibility.
That's a nice spin - as your Dark Forces evolve. Now Jezebel and Kibicho are mere juniors. Ati Munya is Assistant Deputy What? I agree - it healthy for your dispassionate punditry - every theory need to evolve as new challenges emerge. Ask your spin doctor - fresh from the slinger with a vengeance :) - to loop in Joho. Ama he is not dynasty enough?
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So the infographics are meant as more sarakasi. It's what I meant that you're chasing your own tail. Still smarting from the La Mada fiasco - where the only person who went down is Ruto spanner boy Itumbi - now you're onto Stop Ruto Network. You mean to muddy the waters so noone can tell which from what. Maybe try one spin at a time? cause you're now incoherent.
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Ruto is sleepwalking to PORK until you ammend the constitution.
So the infographics are meant as more sarakasi. It's what I meant that you're chasing your own tail. Still smarting from the La Mada fiasco - where the only person who went down is Ruto spanner boy Itumbi - now you're onto Stop Ruto Network. You mean to muddy the waters so noone can tell which from what. Maybe try one spin at a time? cause you're now incoherent.
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Meantime - Head of Deep State Kibicho is seen now and then with heavy dark-goggled musclemen - launching police water tanks - he seem very relaxed as he dismiss Ruto nonsense.
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And what's the problem - mnababaika nini? With imaginary assassinations.
Ruto is sleepwalking to PORK until you ammend the constitution.
So the infographics are meant as more sarakasi. It's what I meant that you're chasing your own tail. Still smarting from the La Mada fiasco - where the only person who went down is Ruto spanner boy Itumbi - now you're onto Stop Ruto Network. You mean to muddy the waters so noone can tell which from what. Maybe try one spin at a time? cause you're now incoherent.
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His Excellency Dr Kibicho - he has PhD in military intelligence. Few weeks ago I imagined dude has 3 heads going by the fear he instill in Sudi and Nyoro. And that's the first mugshot of Jezebel I have seen in the new wakora network. She more secretive than the white widow - except in Tanga Tanga spin.
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Dispassionate pundit my foot - you're off to the bar? Pls come back with new theory - about Ruto sleepwalking to SH - cause only teetotallers act objectively everyone else has been misled by Dark Forces.
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I think that objective succeeded. Nancy (The Chief Strategist) attempt to illegally abuse civil servants to do politics and prepare the ground for entry of Raila into central and referendum has failed. They are back to the drawing board.
Ruto is playing chess and you guys are playing checkers.
And what's the problem - mnababaika nini? With imaginary assassinations.
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He is political neophytes. He has PHD in Mechanical Eng. Not to frown upon but politics iko na wenyewe. The guy obviously cannot even win MCA seat kwao.
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His Excellency Dr Kibicho - he has PhD in military intelligence. Few weeks ago I imagined dude has 3 heads going by the fear he instill in Sudi and Nyoro. And that's the first mugshot of Jezebel I have seen in the new wakora network. She more secretive than the white widow - except in Tanga Tanga spin.
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Pundit can you confirm with Itumbi this new theory: Ruto has been misled by Murkomen and Sudi that he can become PORK - yet he is certified KYM material. It like lying to a stone it can float in water - that's a preserve for the cream. Sleepwaking is like how drunk Uhuru just wait for Kibaki to hand over the mantle - as he drink muratina - and Ruto hold 100K rallies countrywide. Your boy need to settle for ndepyute - DPM - so he can do heavy lifting for Prince Uhuru once he become Exec PM. Ruto deserve Nobel or Guinness Record - the only 'genius' to settle for KYM role beneath the drunkard.
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In the meantime Gema say a firm no to Dr Sleaze
As usual, I don't claim to have radical insights into what's going on. Apart from of course, the near a decade old common knowledge that the hustler cannot count on kamwana's support.
The loathing for the hustler has to be next level for Mt. Kenya church leaders to say they want Raila. Uhuraila :lolz:
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Pundit can you confirm with Itumbi this new theory: Ruto has been misled by Murkomen and Sudi that he can become PORK - yet he is certified KYM material. It like lying to a stone it can float in water - that's a preserve for the cream. Sleepwaking is like how drunk Uhuru just wait for Kibaki to hand over the mantle - as he drink muratina - and Ruto hold 100K rallies countrywide. Your boy need to settle for ndepyute - DPM - so he can do heavy lifting for Prince Uhuru once he become Exec PM. Ruto deserve Nobel or Guinness Record - the only 'genius' to settle for KYM role beneath the drunkard.
You're talking of Ruto who has been co-president or my neighbor Julius Ruto.WSR not only got half cabinet, half the ps, half the parastals head, half the ambassador but also got more than half the tenders.He also control parliament.Murkomen if you didn't know is already where you want Wetangula... Majority Leader of Senate.Kipchumba is 40yrs.Ruto 53yrs.Dont ever confuse humility and loyalty for meekness and dafttness.To beat weak Ruto you have to assemble a coalition of all politicians in NARC like Rainbow coalition.When Wetangula was already a lawyer representing Raila in 82 coup murkomen had not started school
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In the meantime Gema say a firm no to Dr Sleaze
As usual, I don't claim to have radical insights into what's going on. Apart from of course, the near a decade old common knowledge that the hustler cannot count on kamwana's support.
The loathing for the hustler has to be next level for Mt. Kenya church leaders to say they want Raila. Uhuraila :lolz:
It's an open secret Uhuru has no intention to repay Ruto two time support. Going by Murathe std 8 English - Hustler merely supported himself cause they had 50-50. They owe him nothing so 2022 is everyone for himself. Hustler is in a conundrum - how do you threaten Gema when competing for their support with Babu?
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Pundit can you confirm with Itumbi this new theory: Ruto has been misled by Murkomen and Sudi that he can become PORK - yet he is certified KYM material. It like lying to a stone it can float in water - that's a preserve for the cream. Sleepwaking is like how drunk Uhuru just wait for Kibaki to hand over the mantle - as he drink muratina - and Ruto hold 100K rallies countrywide. Your boy need to settle for ndepyute - DPM - so he can do heavy lifting for Prince Uhuru once he become Exec PM. Ruto deserve Nobel or Guinness Record - the only 'genius' to settle for KYM role beneath the drunkard.
You're talking of Ruto who has been co-president or my neighbor Julius Ruto.WSR not only got half cabinet, half the ps, half the parastals head, half the ambassador but also got more than half the tenders.He also control parliament.Murkomen if you didn't know is already where you want Wetangula... Majority Leader of Senate.Kipchumba is 40yrs.Ruto 53yrs.Dont ever confuse humility and loyalty for meekness and dafttness.To beat weak Ruto you have to assemble a coalition of all politicians in NARC like Rainbow coalition.When Wetangula was already a lawyer representing Raila in 82 coup murkomen had not started school
We can concede Ruto has Quarter Mkeka - same as Babu under NARA - cause though he appointed half GoK - he cannot supervise, fire, promote, demote or order them to do anything. That power is now enjoyed either by Uhuru, Matiang'i and/or Babu. County Commissioners actually have to salute Babu or get fired - while Ruto complain Kibicho has told them not to attend his meetings. The other day they stood quietly as Kiunjuri get heckled.
Don't get me wrong. Quarter Mkeka is big achievement for Ruto - with mere illegal (read personal and unpublished) MOU - while Babu had a whole NARA chapter in old katiba and still got shafted by Kibaki and MKM. Ruto has attempted to play well but he is losing it by attacking Gema rank and file. That does not get him any sympathy cause it was swiftly debunked by DCI - and his boy Itumbi nailed to the cross. You can't get Gema sympathy by attacking Gema when they control the DCI and all machinery. The more Mt Kenya see Sudis on TV maligning Gema the worse for him.
It why I say Ruto is no genius. He was faced with conducive factors before. Propaganda against ODM 2009-12 worked cause Ruto was not running for PORK and did not need Luo. Gema needed him to contain Babu so they gave him a clean pass. But now he is running for PORK and he need Gema while facing dogfight for non-Gema with Babu. It a very different ballgame.
Parliament of course just come down to numbers. How many MPs does Ruto command compared to Handshake? He can neither push his agenda nor stifle GoK. Majority positions mean little without the actual majority. Orengo and Mbadi are the de facto Mjaority Leaders.
Here the obsession with H.E. Dr Kibicho continue
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Robina, Kieleweke has about 10 Jubilee MPs...if you add to NASA about 100 and remove those who have defected like Jumwas..Ruto has the like 200mps...and Raila or Handshake or BBI has no chance at all in parliament or counties.Prepare to collect signatures and this time don't steal mpesa phonebooks n copy IDs.Also because parliament makes the budget prepare for referendum to happen when funds become available . possibly an addendum to the 2022 elections.You got us this katiba with 70% support so bear with us if we like it that much.Kibicho can fund it with his slush fund ..if he wants.He has a secret vote and just need to murder Budget Controller so he can transfer the money to IEBC which has 3 commissioners out of 9 required.As long as Ruto opponent in GEMA is Raila he actually doesn't have to play nice.GEMA will rather pay the debt, save their diaspora and kick Raila to retirement.That is why some of these folks are now thinking of la murder.Things are thick for them.Jubilee has refused that handshake narrative.Uhuru just stringing along to avoid Raila dramas of brookside this or that..and demos on the streets.
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In the meantime Gema say a firm no to Dr Sleaze
Honestly Gakuyo is a complete fraud with zero following. The guy is just trying to ingratiate himself to the system to avoid prosecution for defrauding poor kiuks real estate buyers. If kenya wasn't a banana republic he'd be jail with kameme fm owners.
The notion that uhuru can extend his rule is just insane. If he attempt this, the referendum will flop. It's the surest way of making Ruto the president. Even in gema country no one wants uhuru to hang around. The unspoken reality is that jubilee regime is quite unpopular. This include ruto, yes they'll take the donations but as someone asked, what's it that ruto will do for gema that now he's unable to do?
Most gema mps are unaligned, they are neither in tanga tanga or kieleweke.
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Uhuru is kenya best president because he has been very fair to nearly all regions. I think save for Luo Nyanza that refused "development". I know GEMA wanted to get favours like kibaki used to...but rest of country Jubilee is VERY POPULAR. I can tell you in Bomet & Kericho Jubilee is very popular for two things - roads and electricity. You can actually add - Free and Subsidized secondary education. And of course DEVOLUTION. The rest people know is not really gov domain - tea or maize prices or woes - are a global phenomenon.
Look at my county of Bomet. If you say Jubilee is bad - I think people can literally murder you :). We are talking about 400kms of new tarmac. Kibaki gaves us 20Kms in 10yrs - well he basically had to rehabilitate the little moi road network. I know in county like Kiambu with 2,000kms of tarmac - Uhuru adding extra 400kms will not be deal breaker - or also moving electricity connection from 70% to 90% - is not big news - people there want gov to literal put money into their pockets :).
BOMET COUNTY: TARMAC ROADS HISTORY
JOMO KENYATTA GOVERNMENT - maybe the sliver of kaplong- chebilat (20kms) - in Kericho-Kissi highway - if the colonial gov didn't build that.
No tarmac
MOI GOVERNMENT
1) Narok- Kaplong highway
2) Bomet- Silibwet- Litein road
KIBAKI GOVERNMENT
1) Sotik- Ndanai road (20KMS)
JUBILEE GOVERNMENT
1) Kaptengecha- Koiwa-Kimulot-Changoi road - This one pass my home - 56Kms. Attached is pic of my village :)
2) Sachora - Sigor - Kaboson-Chebunyo road
3) Merigi- Tegat- Chemaner- Longisa road
4) Soymet - Kapletundo- Mogogosiek road
5) Daraja Sita- Chebole- Labotiet- Dikir road
6) Longisa- Kipreres- Sigor road
7) Silibwet - Mugango- Olenguruone road
8 ) Teganda- Aisaik-Singorwet- Leldaet- KapMusa road
9) Kapkwen- Itembe - Silibwet road
10) Mulot- Kapkimolwo-Kembu-Kaparuso road
11) Chebunyo- Siongiroi- Kapkwen road.
And tenders have gone out for 2 Tarmac roads coming up in Bomet East and Chepalungu
12) Kyogong(Sachora)-Sigor-Kaboson-Chebunyo road
13) Longisa- Kipreres- Sigor road
Honestly Gakuyo is a complete fraud with zero following. The guy is just trying to ingratiate himself to the system to avoid prosecution for defrauding poor kiuks real estate buyers. If kenya wasn't a banana republic he'd be jail with kameme fm owners.
The notion that uhuru can extend his rule is just insane. If he attempt this, the referendum will flop. It's the surest way of making Ruto the president. Even in gema country no one wants uhuru to hang around. The unspoken reality is that jubilee regime is quite unpopular. This include ruto, yes they'll take the donations but as someone asked, what's it that ruto will do for gema that now he's unable to do?
Most gema mps are unaligned, they are neither in tanga tanga or kieleweke.
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Joyce - is also incredibly popular - because she has not stolen a cent like Isaac Ruto used to do and has delivered murram roads and water (sadly the big water project of Bosto - that would have solved Bomet water issue forever - may never see the light with Raila & his Aror & kimwarer propaganda). Attached is my village . The front of my village home- has Uhuru new tarmac passing it - and the back - has Joyce murram.
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Uhuru is kenya best president because he has been very fair to nearly all regions. I think save for Luo Nyanza that refused "development". I know GEMA wanted to get favours like kibaki used to...but rest of country Jubilee is VERY POPULAR. I can tell you in Bomet & Kericho Jubilee is very popular for two things - roads and electricity. You can actually add - Free and Subsidized secondary education. And of course DEVOLUTION. The rest people know is not really gov domain - tea or maize prices or woes - are a global phenomenon.
Look at my county of Bomet. If you say Jubilee is bad - I think people can literally murder you :). We are talking about 400kms of new tarmac. Kibaki gaves us 20Kms in 10yrs - well he basically had to rehabilitate the little moi road network. I know in county like Kiambu with 2,000kms of tarmac - Uhuru adding extra 400kms will not be deal breaker - or also moving electricity connection from 70% to 90% - is not big news - people there want gov to literal put money into their pockets :).
BOMET COUNTY: TARMAC ROADS HISTORY
JOMO KENYATTA GOVERNMENT - maybe the sliver of kaplong- chebilat (20kms) - in Kericho-Kissi highway - if the colonial gov didn't build that.
No tarmac
MOI GOVERNMENT
1) Narok- Kaplong highway
2) Bomet- Silibwet- Litein road
KIBAKI GOVERNMENT
1) Sotik- Ndanai road (20KMS)
JUBILEE GOVERNMENT
1) Kaptengecha- Koiwa-Kimulot-Changoi road - This one pass my home - 56Kms. Attached is pic of my village :)
2) Sachora - Sigor - Kaboson-Chebunyo road
3) Merigi- Tegat- Chemaner- Longisa road
4) Soymet - Kapletundo- Mogogosiek road
5) Daraja Sita- Chebole- Labotiet- Dikir road
6) Longisa- Kipreres- Sigor road
7) Silibwet - Mugango- Olenguruone road
8 ) Teganda- Aisaik-Singorwet- Leldaet- KapMusa road
9) Kapkwen- Itembe - Silibwet road
10) Mulot- Kapkimolwo-Kembu-Kaparuso road
11) Chebunyo- Siongiroi- Kapkwen road.
And tenders have gone out for 2 Tarmac roads coming up in Bomet East and Chepalungu
12) Kyogong(Sachora)-Sigor-Kaboson-Chebunyo road
13) Longisa- Kipreres- Sigor road
Honestly Gakuyo is a complete fraud with zero following. The guy is just trying to ingratiate himself to the system to avoid prosecution for defrauding poor kiuks real estate buyers. If kenya wasn't a banana republic he'd be jail with kameme fm owners.
The notion that uhuru can extend his rule is just insane. If he attempt this, the referendum will flop. It's the surest way of making Ruto the president. Even in gema country no one wants uhuru to hang around. The unspoken reality is that jubilee regime is quite unpopular. This include ruto, yes they'll take the donations but as someone asked, what's it that ruto will do for gema that now he's unable to do?
Most gema mps are unaligned, they are neither in tanga tanga or kieleweke.
Therein lies the problem. To you and jubilee, development is infrastructure irregardless of the cost. Gema don't need or want new roads, electricity connections etc, what gema want is a thriving growing economy driven by private sector. The main complain with gema is poor status of the "real economy". Real development is increase in production, this is what increases incomes. From every metric available its clear government has crowded out the private sector. This infrastructure are of marginal utility.
Nyeri, recently jubilee introduced so called free universal healthcare. Yet the hospitals are in sorry state with no meds or properly staffed. Nyeri residents they want a thriving economy so that they can go to any hospital of their choice. Nyeri has growing private hospitals like outspan (bigger than mp shah or karen). Nyerians are happy to pay for nhif the government should just make sure nhif is paying private hospitals like outspan in time. Otherwise NHIF shouldn't be a mandatory deduction.
BTW i travel to chepalungu to a market called chebunyo annually to buy sheep for fattening. There's no markedly improvement in incomes or quality of life since jubilee took over. The roads are marginally better but that's about it.
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HK, if you already have basic infrastructure in central thanks to historical advantage then you're in the marginal gains territory.The real economy has grown by average 6%.Jubilee has borrowed from eirobond and China so which crowding are we talking about.Banks refusing to lend is because of Njomo experimental interest capping and npl problem
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HK, if you already have basic infrastructure in central thanks to historical advantage then you're in the marginal gains territory.The real economy has grown by average 6%.Jubilee has borrowed from eirobond and China so which crowding are we talking about.Banks refusing to lend is because of Njomo experimental interest capping and npl problem
Check out CBK numbers on local borrowing. Jubilee has increased both local and expensive commercial loans not to mention the euro and chinese loans. We have had this discussion before, not all gdp growth are equal. btw njomo capping rates is what has enabled government to borrow cheaply locally at the expense of private sector. If it wasn't for cap rates the government would be borrowing at 18% to 20% which would have forced treasury to halt crazy borrowing. The chinese loans are even worse cause they have be repaid using $, that's money being sucked out of the economy for projects that aren't yielding enough to pay for themselves. Anyway jubilee can claim of growing the economy at whatever rate but the kawaida mwanachi isn't feeling it.
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hk - between Ruto and Babu who can more easily bag Gema under current situation? Pundit thinks we are just intransigent when we tell him Jubilee's growth is voodoo. Something his new hero Ndii has been saying for years.
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Pundit - most MPs don't care much for Kieleweke or Tanga Tanga - so your team has 10 MPs just like Uhuru. We did put the numbers to the test during the VAT bill. Rejecting VAT increase was very popular with Kenyans yet Ruto held night meetings and still lost on the floor.
No, Ruto doesn't control parliament. We know how vindictive he is when scorned, exactly what Uhuru has done with Handshake. Yet the Magoghas and Mutyambais sailed through smoothly, cause opposing them would expose his weakness on the floor - like VAT - which is bad optics.
But I agree he controls Jubilee PG, which is 40% overall or thereabouts.
Here's your other Tanga Tanga boy from Meru :) See? unless there is a Handshake v Hustler register we only have the floor to go on.
Ruto supporters attended La Mada meetings, says Dawood
(https://mobile.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/5195164/medRes/2395177/-/mrfx0e/-/dawood-pic.jpg?mrf-size=m)
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/counties/meru/Ruto-people-attended-La-Mada-meetings/3112262-5195162-ie80fw/index.html
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HK, if you already have basic infrastructure in central thanks to historical advantage then you're in the marginal gains territory.The real economy has grown by average 6%.Jubilee has borrowed from eirobond and China so which crowding are we talking about.Banks refusing to lend is because of Njomo experimental interest capping and npl problem
This is a real problem which makes Jubilee unpopular. Economy is run by MSME whcih hire most Kenyans. GoK-led growth doesn't reach the bottom feeders. Kibaki got this shock with his 7% growth in 2007 - when Kenyans voted Babu and he resorted to brazen rigging.
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I think post-rate capping (2016) credit to the private sector & individual has continued to grow - but a more subdued growth (single digit as opposed to double digit). Everyone has benefited from the low-interest regime. Gov and private sector are all enjoying lower interest...and in fact CBK has gone out of their way to keep the CBR rate higher - otherwise, Rotich would be borrowing at say 6%. Therefore Njomo low-interest regime is not all that bad...and I am glad we tried it. The gap of risky lending has been covered by the digital lenders..You keep questioning the economic growth rate (doubling of the economy) in six years of Jubilee without any strong basis. The growth has been broad-based. It also real growth of the economy - check the money supply (there is lot more more money (m1,m2,m3) under Jubilee than previously. Check poverty data.
This propaganda about real economy not growing as no basis. Some few sectors are struggling - like real estate - but everyone else is doing great.
Check out CBK numbers on local borrowing. Jubilee has increased both local and expensive commercial loans not to mention the euro and chinese loans. We have had this discussion before, not all gdp growth are equal. btw njomo capping rates is what has enabled government to borrow cheaply locally at the expense of private sector. If it wasn't for cap rates the government would be borrowing at 18% to 20% which would have forced treasury to halt crazy borrowing. The chinese loans are even worse cause they have be repaid using $, that's money being sucked out of the economy for projects that aren't yielding enough to pay for themselves. Anyway jubilee can claim of growing the economy at whatever rate but the kawaida mwanachi isn't feeling it.
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Ruto controls parliament. There is no need arguing about it. That he has chosen not to flex it more often is a strategy. I think he showed Uhuru what he is capable when JKIA-KQ deal fell down. If Ruto had wanted that JKIA-KQ deal to go through - it would have happened. In the near future Ruto control of parliament will be put to use.
You saw Uhuru pay homage to Ruto before addressing parliament recently.
BBI ikuje -pole pole - and you sell the fights.
Pundit - most MPs don't care much for Kieleweke or Tanga Tanga - so your team has 10 MPs just like Uhuru. We did put the numbers to the test during the VAT bill. Rejecting VAT increase was very popular with Kenyans yet Ruto held night meetings and still lost on the floor.
No, Ruto doesn't control parliament. We know how vindictive he is when scorned, exactly what Uhuru has done with Handshake. Yet the Magoghas and Mutyambais sailed through smoothly, cause opposing them would expose his weakness on the floor - like VAT - which is bad optics.
But I agree he controls Jubilee PG, which is 40% overall or thereabouts.
Here's your other Tanga Tanga boy from Meru :) See? unless there is a Handshake v Hustler register we only have the floor to go on.
Ruto supporters attended La Mada meetings, says Dawood
(https://mobile.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/5195164/medRes/2395177/-/mrfx0e/-/dawood-pic.jpg?mrf-size=m)
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/counties/meru/Ruto-people-attended-La-Mada-meetings/3112262-5195162-ie80fw/index.html
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Somethings are commonsensical. Raila and GEMA. Like seriously.
hk - between Ruto and Babu who can more easily bag Gema under current situation? Pundit thinks we are just intransigent when we tell him Jubilee's growth is voodoo. Something his new hero Ndii has been saying for years.
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In the developed world, MSME runs the economy, in Kenya, it's still the informal sector that runs the economy. That is why I am excited by all the digital lending to the informal sector through Talas/Branch/Okash - name it - and disappointed by Patrick Njoroge attempts to stifle it. The problem with Kibaki was unequal development. It's only Jubilee that has spread the cake evenly. Even the propaganda about Kikuyu or Kalenjin exclusively gov doesn't fly because everywhere people are seeing development.
Some Kikuyu political and intellectual class are trying to make Uhuru return to that kind of model - by running mose kuria kind of baseless propaganda that Uhuru has done very little for them. Complete with tribal meetings about development.
Meanwhile Ruto is all over the country - openning TTIS/Low seal volume roads/electricity ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
This is a real problem which makes Jubilee unpopular. Economy is run by MSME whcih hire most Kenyans. GoK-led growth doesn't reach the bottom feeders. Kibaki got this shock with his 7% growth in 2007 - when Kenyans voted Babu and he resorted to brazen rigging.
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Ruto and GEMA... smh
Somethings are commonsensical. Raila and GEMA. Like seriously.
hk - between Ruto and Babu who can more easily bag Gema under current situation? Pundit thinks we are just intransigent when we tell him Jubilee's growth is voodoo. Something his new hero Ndii has been saying for years.
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Ruto and GEMA buried the hatchet long time ago. Ruto and GEMA have worked together in win-win partnership that consumated into a marriage- Jubilee. Ruto is very popular in GEMA. That is why Nancy and Kibicho are having a hard time.
Ruto and GEMA... smh
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Babu and GEMA "buried the hatchet" in 2002. In fact they called him Njamba (moran :D) - and crown him kikuyu elder in Karatina. Before he attemp to redeem bonga points and hell break loose. The rest is history.
Ruto and GEMA buried the hatchet long time ago. Ruto and GEMA have worked together in win-win partnership that consumated into a marriage- Jubilee. Ruto is very popular in GEMA. That is why Nancy and Kibicho are having a hard time.
Ruto and GEMA... smh
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It all about Gema interests really - nothing personal against Ruto.
2002 - Gema use Babu to contain Ruto & Moi.
2009-12 - Gema use Ruto to contain Babu.
2018-22 - Gema use Babu to contain Ruto.
It a no-brainer - and you can scream here about 50-50 MOU or DPORK - or whatever you think is GEMA interest. Power concede nothing - if Ruto is ready to give 50-50 - is that not inclusion - why not codify it as PM? Of course he only want to give verbal promise - cause he has no intention to honor it.
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PM ya nini.GEMA get DPORK and 50-50 kama kawaida.
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Only a fool can trust a Kenyan politician
PM ya nini.GEMA get DPORK and 50-50 kama kawaida.
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You got to trust someone.Trust building btw Ruto and GEMA is complete.You want to trust Raila going for 7yrs non renewable term.At least with Ruto GEMA can switch in 2027.I not Ruto GEMA can go for it .
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There is absolutely nothing trustworthy about Ruto and Kalenjin who have PEV leverage. Luo are a much better choice.
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I think post-rate capping (2016) credit to the private sector & individual has continued to grow - but a more subdued growth (single digit as opposed to double digit). Everyone has benefited from the low-interest regime. Gov and private sector are all enjoying lower interest...and in fact CBK has gone out of their way to keep the CBR rate higher - otherwise, Rotich would be borrowing at say 6%. Therefore Njomo low-interest regime is not all that bad...and I am glad we tried it. The gap of risky lending has been covered by the digital lenders..You keep questioning the economic growth rate (doubling of the economy) in six years of Jubilee without any strong basis. The growth has been broad-based. It also real growth of the economy - check the money supply (there is lot more more money (m1,m2,m3) under Jubilee than previously. Check poverty data.
This propaganda about real economy not growing as no basis. Some few sectors are struggling - like real estate - but everyone else is doing great.
Check out CBK numbers on local borrowing. Jubilee has increased both local and expensive commercial loans not to mention the euro and chinese loans. We have had this discussion before, not all gdp growth are equal. btw njomo capping rates is what has enabled government to borrow cheaply locally at the expense of private sector. If it wasn't for cap rates the government would be borrowing at 18% to 20% which would have forced treasury to halt crazy borrowing. The chinese loans are even worse cause they have be repaid using $, that's money being sucked out of the economy for projects that aren't yielding enough to pay for themselves. Anyway jubilee can claim of growing the economy at whatever rate but the kawaida mwanachi isn't feeling it.
Credit growth has averaged below 5% since the capping of interest rates. For the private sector growth to grow significantly credit growth should be above 12%. Only government has benefited from capping of rates and banks. Banks are now making more money from buying tbills than lending to private sector. There's no way CBR will be lowered to 6% cause that would mean the treasury would need to address all other macroeconomic factors.
How can all sectors be thriving except real estate yet non performing loans have increased across the board http://kippra.or.ke/interest-rate-cap-two-years-on-outcomes-for-the-kenyan-economy/ ?
There's no point in having low interest rate that only the blue chip companies can access. Its better to have rates at 18% that's accessible to majority of kenyans. The key to kenya economy as pointed out by Robina is SME and MSME. Even in retail we're retrogressing, kenya used to be 40% formalized now we're in 33% range. And we have seen clearly the advent of kadogo economy. Yet, the overall volume sales aren't increasing , meaning consumers are downgrading to small packets. That's not a sign of a thriving economy.
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The growth is real, broad-based and far from tapering. Low-interest rate regime has benefited not only the treasury but even the private sector - who'd want to pay 20% interest when they can pay 13% - and get deposit rate of 6-7%. In any case the digital lenders that you call shylock are lending more than 2B dollars already. NPL is a problem of because 1) pending bills 2) CBK strict enforcement of provisioning & reporting standard and 3) real trouble in retail & real estate sector - esp the later. What is causing the real estate slowdown - I think Big 4 promise of 500K affordable housing units has made every one pause.
I think post-rate capping (2016) credit to the private sector & individual has continued to grow - but a more subdued growth (single digit as opposed to double digit). Everyone has benefited from the low-interest regime. Gov and private sector are all enjoying lower interest...and in fact CBK has gone out of their way to keep the CBR rate higher - otherwise, Rotich would be borrowing at say 6%. Therefore Njomo low-interest regime is not all that bad...and I am glad we tried it. The gap of risky lending has been covered by the digital lenders..You keep questioning the economic growth rate (doubling of the economy) in six years of Jubilee without any strong basis. The growth has been broad-based. It also real growth of the economy - check the money supply (there is lot more more money (m1,m2,m3) under Jubilee than previously. Check poverty data.
This propaganda about real economy not growing as no basis. Some few sectors are struggling - like real estate - but everyone else is doing great.
Check out CBK numbers on local borrowing. Jubilee has increased both local and expensive commercial loans not to mention the euro and chinese loans. We have had this discussion before, not all gdp growth are equal. btw njomo capping rates is what has enabled government to borrow cheaply locally at the expense of private sector. If it wasn't for cap rates the government would be borrowing at 18% to 20% which would have forced treasury to halt crazy borrowing. The chinese loans are even worse cause they have be repaid using $, that's money being sucked out of the economy for projects that aren't yielding enough to pay for themselves. Anyway jubilee can claim of growing the economy at whatever rate but the kawaida mwanachi isn't feeling it.
Credit growth has averaged below 5% since the capping of interest rates. For the private sector growth to grow significantly credit growth should be above 12%. Only government has benefited from capping of rates and banks. Banks are now making more money from buying tbills than lending to private sector. There's no way CBR will be lowered to 6% cause that would mean the treasury would need to address all other macroeconomic factors.
How can all sectors be thriving except real estate yet non performing loans have increased across the board http://kippra.or.ke/interest-rate-cap-two-years-on-outcomes-for-the-kenyan-economy/ ?
There's no point in having low interest rate that only the blue chip companies can access. Its better to have rates at 18% that's accessible to majority of kenyans. The key to kenya economy as pointed out by Robina is SME and MSME. Even in retail we're retrogressing, kenya used to be 40% formalized now we're in 33% range. And we have seen clearly the advent of kadogo economy. Yet, the overall volume sales aren't increasing , meaning consumers are downgrading to small packets. That's not a sign of a thriving economy.
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Seems Sonko has joined Stop Ruto Movement - on the road to Damascus. Dude grovels and sucks up to Uhuru almost as shamelessly as Ruto - the other certified Mulu Mutisya.
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You're scrapping the bottom of the barrel. I had to watch the entire video looking for nothing.
Seems Sonko has joined Stop Ruto Movement - on the road to Damascus. Dude grovels and sucks up to Uhuru almost as shamelessly as Ruto - the other certified Mulu Mutisya.
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In the end he calls for Uhuru 3rd term... you may want to lower the blinkers for a sec
You're scrapping the bottom of the barrel. I had to watch the entire video looking for nothing.
Seems Sonko has joined Stop Ruto Movement - on the road to Damascus. Dude grovels and sucks up to Uhuru almost as shamelessly as Ruto - the other certified Mulu Mutisya.
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On the other hand, https://www.the-star.co.ke/counties/rift-valley/2019-07-24-i-can-be-a-better-president-than-uhuru-sudi-says-after-rotich-sacking/
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Ruto & minions seeing Kibicho ghost everywhere - even in their own shadows
Nyoro to be arrested next week over Ruto support
1 HOUR AGO
(https://mobile.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/5208558/medRes/2403337/-/9rtdm9z/-/ndindi-pic.jpg?mrf-size=m)
Kiharu MP Ndindi Nyoro (left) with DP Ruto at a past event. He has claimed that there are plans to arrest him next week over the management of the Kiharu National Government Constituency Development Fund when he was its chairman. PHOTO | FILE | NATION MEDIA GROUP
IN SUMMARY
The MP is perceived to be in the kitchen cabinet of the deputy president’s 2022 campaign machinery.
He said he will not be easily threatened since he has “lived in houses and situations worse than police cells”.
Mr Nyoro claimed that some bloggers have been paid to fix him.
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/counties/Ndindi-Nyoro-says-will-be-arrested-next-week/1950480-5208536-78wflx/index.html
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Ruto is unstoppable with the his gang 8)
https://www.facebook.com/452113201665959/posts/1093753214168618/
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Ruto is unstoppable with the his gang 8)
https://www.facebook.com/452113201665959/posts/1093753214168618/
Only flowergirls are remaining in Ruto corner. And bongo lala Waititu - what a fool - to lose governorship for a vulture like Ruto. Likes of Kimemia, Wa Iria, Kiraitu just went quiet - as Sonko call for 3rd term - the new Kuria Kanyingi. Kila mtu msalaba wake.
RV Pundit - do you now agree Arap Kenyatta is not chicken meat. Ati lameduck. Your boy's minion just got SACKED from elected Kiambu governor. In meantime Ruto continue to tingiza kidole ya nyayo. It very bad idea to take on PORK in Zamunda.
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Ms Robina, seen this? :o
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I doubt Uhuru is that dumb.
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I doubt Uhuru is that dumb.
I doubt you are that dumb to miss it
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From annointed successor Ruto is now associated with big question mark - hana mbele wala nyuma
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Wambugu superior argument against ruto antics in central province
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Wambugu is a failed project of Nancy and Kibicho.His movement is stuck with Kamanda.They use to do Sunday runs on churches but that seems no longer feasible.
Uhuru has reached a decision point...he has to.come out of his shadow to.fight Ruto or sue for peace
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Uhuru has the upper hand. Your guy is totally isolated. He lacks a base to destabilize Uhuru. Ngunjiri actually laid it bare that ruto has no assignment from Uhuru. Once mps from rift valley and those in central aligned to ruto realize they cannot beat Uhuru they will run. Today ndindi was in church apologizing. Kimani ichungwa is not even trying to do anything in kikuyu. Uhuru has flushed these greenhorns out and they have no qbility to fight.
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At one time ruto had shebeah, waiguru, Waititi, Sabina. Wairiria, et al..today he is isolated and has no anyone to rely on. Ruto is just following uhuru around but he is not even allowed in any vicinity Uhuru is in. This was a quick shaft. Riftvalley is deafening quite. Anyone who raises their head is whacked hard and fast. Baringo b.omet are gone..zero charisma gidi is now out there stamping his authority..pokot will leave ruto ..ruto will be left with Kipsigis and nandi. Maa are out and Uhuru kicks out kales from Mau he gets maa ...
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You live in different reality. Ruto has the backing of 95% of Jubilee mps.What upper-hand does a lame duck Uhuru really has? He has to ammend the katiba otherwise the clock is ticking - and he is going to become irrelevant as we approach 2022. Unless of course he figures how to extend his rule.
Uhuru has the upper hand. Your guy is totally isolated. He lacks a base to destabilize Uhuru. Ngunjiri actually laid it bare that ruto has no assignment from Uhuru. Once mps from rift valley and those in central aligned to ruto realize they cannot beat Uhuru they will run. Today ndindi was in church apologizing. Kimani ichungwa is not even trying to do anything in kikuyu. Uhuru has flushed these greenhorns out and they have no qbility to fight.
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Gibberish.
At one time ruto had shebeah, waiguru, Waititi, Sabina. Wairiria, et al..today he is isolated and has no anyone to rely on. Ruto is just following uhuru around but he is not even allowed in any vicinity Uhuru is in. This was a quick shaft. Riftvalley is deafening quite. Anyone who raises their head is whacked hard and fast. Baringo b.omet are gone..zero charisma gidi is now out there stamping his authority..pokot will leave ruto ..ruto will be left with Kipsigis and nandi. Maa are out and Uhuru kicks out kales from Mau he gets maa ...