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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Kadudu on July 02, 2019, 05:47:41 PM
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Uhuru and Raila have been lubbished by David Ndii. Actually the two are making Ruto to look like a statesman.
Given the option of letting Uhuru continue or Ruto (I cannot stand this man) then better Ruto takes over. Uhuru has and had nothing to offer Kenya. Ruto is a big thief and will also ruin Kenya, but better option than letting Uhuru continue.
Mr Uhuru Kenyatta please do us and yourself a big favour; you have neither the mandate nor the wherewithal to shape our political destiny. Just finish up and go.
https://www.theeastafricanreview.info/op-eds/2019/06/28/memo-to-uhuru-kenyatta-finish-up-and-go/
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Counting down to when Pundit will revert calling Ndii brilliant :) . They say politics is the art of the possible.
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When he stops being an idiot.That is pretty impossible for Ndio to do
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:) :) I guess that's an easy one. Don't understand any mind that tries to reason with Ndii's stupidity. They guy is a hopeless mind!
When he stops being an idiot.That is pretty impossible for Ndio to do
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Uh? Kindly resend in English... who do you prefer between Ruto and Babu? Those are the two horses, Kenyatta is bait.
Uhuru and Raila have been lubbished by David Ndii. Actually the two are making Ruto to look like a statesman.
Given the option of letting Uhuru continue or Ruto (I cannot stand this man) then better Ruto takes over. Uhuru has and had nothing to offer Kenya. Ruto is a big thief and will also ruin Kenya, but better option than letting Uhuru continue.
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Ndii always on point. Wewe Maliza utoke. Amherst got to be the most useless university in the whole world.
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Uhuru and Raila have been lubbished by David Ndii. Actually the two are making Ruto to look like a statesman.
Given the option of letting Uhuru continue or Ruto (I cannot stand this man) then better Ruto takes over. Uhuru has and had nothing to offer Kenya. Ruto is a big thief and will also ruin Kenya, but better option than letting Uhuru continue.
Mr Uhuru Kenyatta please do us and yourself a big favour; you have neither the mandate nor the wherewithal to shape our political destiny. Just finish up and go.
https://www.theeastafricanreview.info/op-eds/2019/06/28/memo-to-uhuru-kenyatta-finish-up-and-go/
Uhuru must go! It's that simple. The day he proclaims his intentions to extend his term is the day he will know how unpopular he is. Let wsr fight it out with whoever opts to vie.
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Uhuru and Raila have been lubbished by David Ndii. Actually the two are making Ruto to look like a statesman.
Given the option of letting Uhuru continue or Ruto (I cannot stand this man) then better Ruto takes over. Uhuru has and had nothing to offer Kenya. Ruto is a big thief and will also ruin Kenya, but better option than letting Uhuru continue.
Mr Uhuru Kenyatta please do us and yourself a big favour; you have neither the mandate nor the wherewithal to shape our political destiny. Just finish up and go.
https://www.theeastafricanreview.info/op-eds/2019/06/28/memo-to-uhuru-kenyatta-finish-up-and-go/
Uhuru must go! It's that simple. The day he proclaims his intentions to extend his term is the day he will know how unpopular he is. Let wsr fight it out with whoever opts to vie.
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Kenyans are fed up with Kikuyu and Kalenjin dominance.
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I think Kenyans are mainly fed up with a drunk incompetent leader.
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I think Kenyans are mainly fed up with a drunk incompetent leader.
Your new hero's quandary - how to build anti-Kikuyu sentiment while facing Raila - and how Kalenjin are not equally playing offside in that argument.
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Just read through the Ndii memo to Uhuru. Hard hitting and scathing like a dagger... Drunk Uhuru must have hit the roof and thought of having the professor incarcerated again before Muhoho and the mom calmed him down.
But I do think Ndii has some personal beef with the Kenyattas - these attacks started long before the Uhuruto fallout. They were not inspired by Babu nor NASA either as is clear. Problem with being so personally invested - like Miguna - is the impunity these top creme enjoy - and the unpredictability of politics. Who would have thought Odinga would be working with Kenyatta today? It's better to just take a chill pill on matters outside one's control.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
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Uhuru's chances of resting in peace after 2022 are fast running out, and it's not Ruto's fault
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Uhuru will rest in peace. Why not? Even theMt Kenya folk that is now "rebeling" against him will never tolerate for one minute anyone who tries to lay a hand on Uhuru after 2022. So Ruto be warned. The romance with Mt Kenya can come to a halt in one minute.
Uhuru's chances of resting in peace after 2022 are fast running out, and it's not Ruto's fault
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If Raila wins power - he won't rest in peace - and so will Mois & Rutos. So he has to manage his succession well. A friendly regime is all he needs to rest in peace.
Uhuru will rest in peace. Why not? Even theMt Kenya folk that is now "rebeling" against him will never tolerate for one minute anyone who tries to lay a hand on Uhuru after 2022. So Ruto be warned. The romance with Mt Kenya can come to a halt in one minute.
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Wewe wacha fitina. Who ever wins in 2022, the loosers will sit pretty. It is never in the interest of the Kenyan elite to rock the boat. New alliances will be formed direct after the elections. These people are all living in a glass house and nobody is ready to start throwing the first stone.
If Raila wins power - he won't rest in peace - and so will Mois & Rutos. So he has to manage his succession well. A friendly regime is all he needs to rest in peace.
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Except they threw Jaramogi in for like 2yrs and Raila for like 9yrs - and have rigged him - so for Raila it will be personal. The rest - maDVD/Kaloi/Ruto - will not touch Uhuru or Kenyatta or Mois or Kibakis. But Raila everyone knows has a huge axe to grind.
Wewe wacha fitina. Who ever wins in 2022, the loosers will sit pretty. It is never in the interest of the Kenyan elite to rock the boat. New alliances will be formed direct after the elections. These people are all living in a glass house and nobody is ready to start throwing the first stone.
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Continue to try spread propaganda against Raila. It will not work. He is one person who never takes anything personal. Remember he defended Moi in 2002 against Mt Kenya mafia? Had he wanted revenge that would have been the chance.
Except they threw Jaramogi in for like 2yrs and Raila for like 9yrs - and have rigged him - so for Raila it will be personal. The rest - maDVD/Kaloi/Ruto - will not touch Uhuru or Kenyatta or Mois or Kibakis. But Raila everyone knows has a huge axe to grind.
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Okay that was my 2 cent; I see it bring forth your Railamania. I think part of reason there is resistance to Raila president is precisely that. The barely disguised huge axe and the chip in his shoulder pretty much scare everyone.
Continue to try spread propaganda against Raila. It will not work. He is one person who never takes anything personal. Remember he defended Moi in 2002 against Mt Kenya mafia? Had he wanted revenge that would have been the chance.
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Pundit, what I am trying to push into your thick skull is that no politician in Kenya will be out for revenge. It is you who is pushing the myth of Raila revenging come 2022. Have you lost all arguements for Ruto that you now have to use fear as a means of politics?
You have lost it of late. Too much mursk :D :D :D :D
Okay that was my 2 cent; I see it bring forth your Railamania. I think part of reason there is resistance to Raila president is precisely that. The barely disguised huge axe and the chip in his shoulder pretty much scare everyone.
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Everyone has an axe to grind but none as big as Raila - who spent 9 yrs in prison and his father 2yrs. That is all I am saying. I am not pushing any ideas here - this forum is hardly read by 10 people a day.
Again, as always, I am a dispassionate punditry .
Let me tell you Ruto evoke a lot of Moi/Kalenjin looting era mess fear. That is reality 101. You're pretty scared of another Moi coming back - in form of Ruto. When I admit Ruto is perceived to be corrupt, and that he has a mountain to climb in dealing with Moi perception, then I am not spoiling it for Ruto, I am saying the truth.
Obviously, Ruto is trying to change the narrative to hustler versus dynasty. It helps that Moi son is out there taking care of the sins of his father :) .Previously Ruto has rebranded being indicted by ICC :) so this is walk in the park.
Raila has to assure many people that he won't REVENGE. Everyone knows he has a huge axe. You don't go to prison for decade and come back happy unless you're MANDELA.
Pundit, what I am trying to push into your thick skull is that no politician in Kenya will be out for revenge. It is you who is pushing the myth of Raila revenging come 2022. Have you lost all arguements for Ruto that you now have to use fear as a means of politics?
You have lost it of late. Too much mursk :D :D :D :D
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Everyone has an axe to grind but none as big as Raila - who spent 9 yrs in prison and his father 2yrs. That is all I am saying. I am not pushing any ideas here - this forum is hardly read by 10 people a day.
My foot. Pundit, you are the only one with an axe to grind. You were salivating all over this board over the prospect of that revenge in 2017. Stop projecting your own shadow. No one is scared of a Raila revenge, not even you as you are spinning this folk tale. We all know the vices of our politicians, they are not mysterious. Raila's might be called greed for the big seat, but revenge ni ndoto yako. Take a chill pill, bwana. :D
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Raila groupies cannot stand that singular fact that their man has unfinished revenge business.We saw it in Mau forest saga
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Pundit, are you now so desperate for your man? Trully team Tanga Tanga soilt their own party with Itumbi's faked letter to the president.
Raila groupies cannot stand that singular fact that their man has unfinished revenge business.We saw it in Mau forest saga
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The elites that feared Babu are no more - it used to be Moi, Kenyatta and Kibaki - Moi and Kenyatta are now pulling the lever for Babu - and vigorously opposing Ruto. Hustler vs dynasty automatically lines up all "dynasties" against Ruto. It's a double-edged sword.
I mean between Ruto and Babu who is more scary to the average Kenyan? Ruto PEV history, Kelenjin long reign with Gema, his polarizing persona, his unscrupulous corrupt reputation - instantly moot all Babu vengeful and such image issues.
Ruto has only the Jubulee "peace" MOU - as a bargaining chip over Babu.
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Ruto has only the Jubulee "peace" MOU - as a bargaining chip over Babu.
Pundit is 4ever threatening PEV repeat and "MAD" every month here if Ruto is shafted, and now wants to lecture us on revenge.:D Dunia kweli.
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Pundit is 4ever threatening PEV repeat and "MAD" every month here if Ruto is shafted, and now wants to lecture us on revenge.:D Dunia kweli.
Pundit has strange hubris about his own genius. How can he be dispassionate and also wear massive Ruto blinkers? - that's a contradiction. Once you have a declared horse you can no longer be neutral. According to his proven, objective, factual, hard cold, bla bla punditry, Uhuru would be enjoying the beach in Hawaii - leaving Ruto as Acting President. Senile Raila would be dead or locked up in some lunatic asylum.
But of course the reality is the exact opposite of his predictions.
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I must have touched a raw nerve.Raila folks are emerging from woodwork.You actually think Raila can fool the privellege class that he is part of them.They threw him into prison.They know Raila will revenge.The same way you know Kalenjin warriors will attempt to collect Ruto political debt from Gema and Ruto will make crazy fortune as PORK.The same way GEMA regime will always be insular and will govern like other tribes do not really matter.Those are political reality.If humble Moi revenged against GEMA, lie a fool that Raila will let go all his bitterness...60yr old bitterness that as of last year he was crylying they rigged me again.Raila axe is so huge it's impossible to ignore.At least Uhuru had just an axe against NGOs and now poor Mwilu & Supreme Court.Ruto will definitely crush balls...but Raila will wake up all the demons.
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Robina I voted for jailbird and jailbreak Sonko...and I support Ruto...there are gazillion reasons to support them.I will support them but will not lie for them.Ruto is not an angel..he is flawed but not as deeply flawed as Raila.Ruto has personal failings...he never saw a woman he didn't want to bed...and he is also never saw money he did not want to grab...but the man is an intelligent hardworking organized natural leader who will get a lot of shit done
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Babu main axe was with Moi and Kalenjin - more than the Kenyattas and Gema. Moi jailed him 9 years and castrated him - Jomo detained Jaramogi mere 2 years. Babu and Ruto and Uhuru are all realist - who work with realities of the day. Like Uhuru and Ruto worked together - against ICC and Babu - after taking Kenya to the brink 5 short years earlier. Babu is now with Uhuru - after running battles for whole 5 years. Ruto by 2009 was praising Kibaki as great leader after fallout with Babu. Now Babu has been consoling senile diabetic Nyayo for blessings :) The reality of tribal democracy make it impossible to maintain permanent enemies - even Pokot and Turkana are now together in Ruto pocket.
After 2022, say Babu is PORK with Gema DPORK - of course he will toss the 50-50 MOU in the sewer. Gema will throw tantrums like Ruto now - and Babu will swiftly co-opt Ruto or someone else to contain any rebellion. The same would happen with Ruto - despite your endless poems here about how trustworthy he is.
As Ronnie Reagan put it: there are no permanent enemies - or axes - in politics. Only permanent interests.
I must have touched a raw nerve.Raila folks are emerging from woodwork.You actually think Raila can fool the privellege class that he is part of them.They threw him into prison.They know Raila will revenge.The same way you know Kalenjin warriors will attempt to collect Ruto political debt from Gema and Ruto will make crazy fortune as PORK.The same way GEMA regime will always be insular and will govern like other tribes do not really matter.Those are political reality.If humble Moi revenged against GEMA, lie a fool that Raila will let go all his bitterness...60yr old bitterness that as of last year he was crylying they rigged me again.Raila axe is so huge it's impossible to ignore.At least Uhuru had just an axe against NGOs and now poor Mwilu & Supreme Court.Ruto will definitely crush balls...but Raila will wake up all the demons.
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Robina, that better than previous attempt and like Matiba used say..Let the people decide.
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Babu has no beef he is dying to unleash. He was wronged but he is pragmatic. He worked with Moi and that should tell you all you want. He shook Uhuru's hand. Babu is just another greedy thug. It was Kikuyus who were sold the vendetta theory. I. Surprised to hear a relatively intelligent Pundito regurgitating it. I hope it's a joke
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Babu has no beef he is dying to unleash. He was wronged but he is pragmatic. He worked with Moi and that should tell you all you want. He shook Uhuru's hand. Babu is just another greedy thug. It was Kikuyus who were sold the vendetta theory. I. Surprised to hear a relatively intelligent Pundito regurgitating it. I hope it's a joke
:D He knows, of course. Inaitwo desperation. It was used on Kyuks by Kifaki and Uhuru and now Pundit hopes it can work for Ruto because PEV threat might not.
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I must have touched a raw nerve.
U didn't touch a raw nerve. Just no one is buying daylight fairytales, Pundit. You're hoping Gema propaganda machine can be deployed to benefit a non-Gema like Ruto and it just looks comical seeing you trying to make that stick as if the pple here dont know our politicians. Besides, if Gema are that fearful, why wouldn't they then want Kamwana to continue? Let me guess: they "trust" Ruto because of that "peaceful" MOU, right?
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Jailed for 9yrs and rigged out allegedly several times...and our angel is not bitter.Tell it to the birds.The Luo as community have huge axe over what they perceive as political persecution just like kalenjin have historical land grievance.Raila if made pork will definitely get some of his revenge back.This is not fear mongering because this site has very little readership. That I am desperate for Ruto pork is so true...we need visionary hands on the deck leadership.Do I think GEMA or Uhuru will trust Raila .I have said several times hell no.As far as I am concerned Raila is being used to tame Ruto now and maybe help ammend katiba to GEMA liking...then he will be dropped.Did Moi believe that Raila would forgive him..hell nope.Raila can pretend to be tame but we know he is not Mandela.Look for another strategy....this one won't work.In few months it will be clear as daylight who is using who.
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Parliamentary is much better for 10% Luo and all non-RVGema - so I don't see how Babu is being used. Handshake has struck MV Hustler like an iceberg :) so Babu is already collecting dividends. Uhuru on the other hand gets to scorn Ruto - as payback for mlolongo backstabbing - with little consequence. This is symbiotic win-win outcome.
Once parliamentary become reality, of course it new ballgame - anyone can nick it. Again it hard to "use" Babu - who is apparently angling for ceremonial PORK :) - it's Uhuru who is more likely to be shortchanged once Babu go for PM - and ask Uhuru to retire to ceremonial.
Even if referendum fail - very unlikely with all the BBI carrots - Jubilee and Uhuruto will be in tatters worse than now. All win-win for Babu. Ngoja uone BBI - 45% devolution, 1/3 women - how will your omnipotent genius deal with this? You need to give Babu credit where it's due.
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The problem is 1) GEMA will not agree to a system that disadvantaged them - parliamentary system will rob them the ability to leverage their numbers - so FORGET ABOUT IT and 2) GEMA have refused to embrace the handshake - it's Uhuru being nice to Raila so we do not see demos and such nonsense - and so Uhuru can govern in peace.
I am not sure what you mean Uhuru was backstabbed. He is going home. He doesn't need Mps. He doesn't jubilee. He needs a good legacy and retirement package.
I think the problem with some of your is an inability to separate wishes from reality. When the deal is too good think twice.
BBI have about 2 months to wind up - and we have NOT heard anybody from GEMA supporting parliamentary systems. So maybe Uhuru will on the last minute - rush there - and agree with Raila's recommendation?, I think BBI should be already into report writing. Their extended term ends in October.
And BBI is illegal ab iniito.
Parliamentary is much better for 10% Luo and all non-RVGema - so I don't see how Babu is being used. Handshake has struck MV Hustler like an iceberg :) so Babu is already collecting dividends. Uhuru on the other hand gets to scorn Ruto - as payback for mlolongo backstabbing - with little consequence. This is symbiotic win-win outcome.
Once parliamentary become reality, of course it new ballgame - anyone can nick it. Again it hard to "use" Babu - who is apparently angling for ceremonial PORK :) - it's Uhuru who is more likely to be shortchanged once Babu go for PM - and ask Uhuru to retire to ceremonial.
Even if referendum fail - very unlikely with all the BBI carrots - Jubilee and Uhuruto will be in tatters worse than now. All win-win for Babu. Ngoja uone BBI - 45% devolution, 1/3 women - how will your omnipotent genius deal with this? You need to give Babu credit where it's due.
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Given the present mayhem in MV Hustler - it more wishful thinking that Uhuruto are still an item. I mean, these guys can't even call a PG, can't agree on anything - referendum, corruption, Handshake, 2022 - now we have assassinations and treason charges. All in the smooth well oiled machine. ODM hold meetings peacefully - has known officials, party stand united on issues - only a few Jumwa or Nanok. In fact the entire NASA brigade is on Handshake and referendum side.
GEMA may not like parliamentary - which is why Uhuru dangle Exec PM. As you can see not all Mt Kenya MPs are in Kieleweke, Tanga Tanga camps - most are passive or neutral. Babu dangle inclusion, Uhuru dangle Exec PM - it a great strategy. Who care what happens after, Kenya will be parliamentary - I think Uhuru is more likely to be shortchanged. But that is plain conjecture just like your Babu is being used spin - when we see on camera and news daily as Jubilee factions tearing each other up. BBI is real - no Jubilee or Gema or Kalenjin input - cause of Jubilee wars. But Kiraitu and Kibwana - presented 45% devolution - representing CoG. In meantime Ruto strategy is to use Aukot? How will Ruto make Turkana or Samburu or Maa - to reject 45% devolution? Or convince women to oppose 1/3?
So which deal is too good? What has Babu lost - compared to Jubilee implosion. That's a theory - in fact wishful thinking - the Jubilee circus and mayhem is in the news.
The problem is 1) GEMA will not agree to a system that disadvantaged them - parliamentary system will rob them the ability to leverage their numbers - so FORGET ABOUT IT and 2) GEMA have refused to embrace the handshake - it's Uhuru being nice to Raila so we do not see demos and such nonsense - and so Uhuru can govern in peace.
I am not sure what you mean Uhuru was backstabbed. He is going home. He doesn't need Mps. He doesn't jubilee. He needs a good legacy and retirement package.
I think the problem with some of your is an inability to separate wishes from reality. When the deal is too good think twice.
BBI have about 2 months to wind up - and we have NOT heard anybody from GEMA supporting parliamentary systems. So maybe Uhuru will on the last minute - rush there - and agree with Raila's recommendation?, I think BBI should be already into report writing. Their extended term ends in October.
And BBI is illegal ab iniito.
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Of course Uhuru was played by Ruto - who used primaries ballot chaos as mlolongo smokescreen. Likes of Mbugua were rigged out by Ruto. Then Ruto lined up his cronies in parliament - leaving Uhuru only with Muturi - contrary to 50-50 as earlier.
Uhuru anger showed up immediately after swearing in - when Ruto no longer appear in SH in matching tie - after Mbugua become comptroller. Then Handshake happened and the rest is history.
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BBI - how is it illegal? There is no requirement for a referendum proposal to have parliamentary backing or even a law - cause the popular/signature route is assumed to be NGO- or mwananchi-led. Even Aukot adventure could pass if it had political muscle - no law is needed.
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You're focusing on smoke screens. Jubilee gov - a 50-50 deal btw Uhuru and Ruto are busy working. There is not much Ruto has lost - maybe the Chairman of Kenya Film and Netball agencies that were given to Raila.
Ruto is being fought by power-brokers around Uhuru - as they realize power is slipping away from their hands - and I think whole referendum/BBI is a scare-scrow. There is no way GEMA will agree to go parliamentary - and if they do - I would advice Ruto to go for it.
In my view BBI is a bridge to nowhere.
Given the present mayhem in MV Hustler - it more wishful thinking that Uhuruto are still an item. I mean, these guys can't even call a PG, can't agree on anything - referendum, corruption, Handshake, 2022 - now we have assassinations and treason charges. All in the smooth well oiled machine. ODM hold meetings peacefully - has known officials, party stand united on issues - only a few Jumwa or Nanok. In fact the entire NASA brigade is on Handshake and referendum side.
GEMA may not like parliamentary - which is why Uhuru dangle Exec PM. As you can see not all Mt Kenya MPs are in Kieleweke, Tanga Tanga camps - most are passive or neutral. Babu dangle inclusion, Uhuru dangle Exec PM - it a great strategy. Who care what happens after, Kenya will be parliamentary - I think Uhuru is more likely to be shortchanged. But that is plain conjecture just like your Babu is being used spin - when we see on camera and news daily as Jubilee factions tearing each other up. BBI is real - no Jubilee or Gema or Kalenjin input - cause of Jubilee wars. But Kiraitu and Kibwana - presented 45% devolution - representing CoG. In meantime Ruto strategy is to use Aukot? How will Ruto make Turkana or Samburu or Maa - to reject 45% devolution? Or convince women to oppose 1/3?
So which deal is too good? What has Babu lost - compared to Jubilee implosion. That's a theory - in fact wishful thinking - the Jubilee circus and mayhem is in the news.
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It's funded by taxpayers money - and yet it's not gazetted or does it have any legal backing. Anyway, it's just a waste of time. It will meet a brick wall soon when it taken through the motions - courts, IEBCS, 48 counties, parliament and finally a referendum if it's get there.
BBI - how is it illegal? There is no requirement for a referendum proposal to have parliamentary backing or even a law - cause the popular/signature route is assumed to be NGO- or mwananchi-led. Even Aukot adventure could pass if it had political muscle - no law is needed.
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The losers are bitterly complaining....and trying to exert their revenge.
But BBI is not the only juggernaut the DP will have to contend with. “Ruto rigged many of the Central and Mount Kenya Jubilee Party MPs that he felt were not on his side, or would be difficult to control, or influence,” said the MP. “He ensured all loyal MPs from his side were handed the certificates easily. That was not the arrangement he had with Uhuru when he was tasked to take charge of the party nomination affairs after the fiasco of the first countrywide nominations trials.”
The MP said that all the former MPs who lost their seats and who are still smarting from their loss loathe Ruto, and are just waiting for the opportune time to strike back. “Yes, they also rail against President Uhuru privately; ‘the man has never been in control of anything.’ They, therefore, have sworn to not support any venture by Ruto. They are adamant they won’t stop saying Ruto rigged them out.”
Among the most hurt of the Mount Kenya politicians who accuse Ruto of rigging them out are: Cecily Mbarire (who ran for the Embu governor seat); Kabando wa Kabando (former MP, Mukurwe-ini in Nyeri County); Martha Karua (who ran for the Kirinyaga County governor’s seat); Mutahi Kagwe (who ran for the senator’s seat in Nyeri County); Ndung’u Gethenji (the former MP for Tetu, Nyeri County); Peter Kenneth (who ran for the Nairobi County governor’s seat); Peter Munya (who ran for the Meru County governor’s seat); Rachel Shebesh (who ran for Women Representative in Nairobi County); and William Kabogo (who ran for the Kiambu County governor’s seat). “Kagwe, Kenneth and Munya are still so angry with Ruto, they won’t even talk to him,” said the MP.
Of course Uhuru was played by Ruto - who used primaries ballot chaos as mlolongo smokescreen. Likes of Mbugua were rigged out by Ruto. Then Ruto lined up his cronies in parliament - leaving Uhuru only with Muturi - contrary to 50-50 as earlier.
Uhuru anger showed up immediately after swearing in - when Ruto no longer appear in SH in matching tie - after Mbugua become comptroller. Then Handshake happened and the rest is history.
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I think Ruto crew will be booted one by one. But that's conjecture - just like BBI is a scarecrow. Time will tell.
Of course I don't buy Jubilee wars are engineered by Kibicho - who summon CSs and entire machinery. It plain Uhuruto fallout.
You're focusing on smoke screens. Jubilee gov - a 50-50 deal btw Uhuru and Ruto are busy working. There is not much Ruto has lost - maybe the Chairman of Kenya Film and Netball agencies that were given to Raila.
Ruto is being fought by power-brokers around Uhuru - as they realize power is slipping away from their hands - and I think whole referendum/BBI is a scare-scrow. There is no way GEMA will agree to go parliamentary - and if they do - I would advice Ruto to go for it.
In my view BBI is a bridge to nowhere.
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Building Bridges was gazetted after Handshake - complete with chairman, sitting senators and secretariat. You called it a wazee baraza :) The mandate to advise GoK on how to address "historical injustice", electoral squabbles, etc - was also included. They are gathering views on how to adress these myriad problems - it mere coincidence that folks all over - including CoG - have asked for more devolution, Fida and Maendeleo and Karuas want 1/3, etc - they are entirely open minded and considering all views :) Ruto should have asked his crew to present opposing views instead of boycotting. Basically BBI was a big one - blank check - to use against Ruto. It why I say Handshake is a successful Trojan Horse 2.
It not illegal - unless the argument is funding? GoK fund many things which have no legal basis. How does that affect BBI? Perhaps sue Rotich? BBI is a basis for the questions in the popular initiative - so they are not accused of imposing parliamentary - cause they gathered views countrywide.
You can claim Aukot - once he come up with referendum questions - was funded by drug money to facilitate gathering views. How does that invalidate the initiative? Of course it doesn't.
The requirement is 1M signatures, IEBC approval, simple majority in 24 counties, MPs simple majority, rederendum simple majority. Of course it a longdrawn fight - which is a big wedge and last straw in Jubilee.
It's funded by taxpayers money - and yet it's not gazetted or does it have any legal backing. Anyway, it's just a waste of time. It will meet a brick wall soon when it taken through the motions - courts, IEBCS, 48 counties, parliament and finally a referendum if it's get there.
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The best propaganda is made of lies mired in the truth. Very lethal concoction.
The losers are bitterly complaining....and trying to exert their revenge.
But BBI is not the only juggernaut the DP will have to contend with. “Ruto rigged many of the Central and Mount Kenya Jubilee Party MPs that he felt were not on his side, or would be difficult to control, or influence,” said the MP. “He ensured all loyal MPs from his side were handed the certificates easily. That was not the arrangement he had with Uhuru when he was tasked to take charge of the party nomination affairs after the fiasco of the first countrywide nominations trials.”
The MP said that all the former MPs who lost their seats and who are still smarting from their loss loathe Ruto, and are just waiting for the opportune time to strike back. “Yes, they also rail against President Uhuru privately; ‘the man has never been in control of anything.’ They, therefore, have sworn to not support any venture by Ruto. They are adamant they won’t stop saying Ruto rigged them out.”
Among the most hurt of the Mount Kenya politicians who accuse Ruto of rigging them out are: Cecily Mbarire (who ran for the Embu governor seat); Kabando wa Kabando (former MP, Mukurwe-ini in Nyeri County); Martha Karua (who ran for the Kirinyaga County governor’s seat); Mutahi Kagwe (who ran for the senator’s seat in Nyeri County); Ndung’u Gethenji (the former MP for Tetu, Nyeri County); Peter Kenneth (who ran for the Nairobi County governor’s seat); Peter Munya (who ran for the Meru County governor’s seat); Rachel Shebesh (who ran for Women Representative in Nairobi County); and William Kabogo (who ran for the Kiambu County governor’s seat). “Kagwe, Kenneth and Munya are still so angry with Ruto, they won’t even talk to him,” said the MP.
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Yes, do not forget the judiciary will be called to intervene - so yes this will be long drawn out battle. Let us have BBI report in October. I wonder when Raila and Uhuru will present their proposal there?
The requirement is 1M signatures, IEBC approval, simple majority in 24 counties, MPs simple majority, rederendum simple majority. Of course it a longdrawn fight - which is a big wedge and last straw in Jubilee.
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ODM gave its proposal - along with all their counties and all other parties. It's basically Jubilee that's been left out due to squabbles. People gave their proposals everywhere including the diaspora.
Kiunjuri backyard Nyeri want inclusion
Here's Ruto boy Kiraitu proposing parliamentary
(https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/wednesday/jibo9pkjibmxqfmbif5bfef4fa3cd41.jpg)
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001304419/expand-executive-to-end-conflicts-kiraitu
Pwani - Kingi and Joho - want federal and parliamentary
(https://mobile.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/4882512/medRes/2189752/-/15n02dgz/-/Joho.jpg?format=xhtml)
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Joho-and-Kingi-push-for-three-tier-government/3126390-4882434-format-xhtml-pgxxhaz/index.html
Yes, do not forget the judiciary will be called to intervene - so yes this will be long drawn out battle. Let us have BBI report in October. I wonder when Raila and Uhuru will present their proposal there?
The requirement is 1M signatures, IEBC approval, simple majority in 24 counties, MPs simple majority, rederendum simple majority. Of course it a longdrawn fight - which is a big wedge and last straw in Jubilee.
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Nowhere has Kiraitu or anybody in Central called for Parliamentary System (ODM affair). I think they want inclusion. They want NARA - more flower girls - to placate other regions. ODM has made it's clear thro Raila - he wants parliamentary + 3 tier devolution. Coast obviously wants Majimbo - federalism.
Ruto and co will obviously not go through this BBI. If need I think they will come with their counter-proposal - Ruto wants old constitution back :) basically leader of opposition - because face it - expanded executive will not mean a loser like Raila will join gov - it's the Duales who will get those jobs. So it doesn't really solve the problem of winner-take-it-all.
BBI is talk shop - not recognized in law. It's not any different from Turkana boy thing.
ODM gave its proposal - along with all their counties and all other parties. It's basically Jubilee that's been left out due to squabbles. People gave their proposals everywhere including the diaspora.
Kiunjuri backyard Nyeri want inclusion
Here's Ruto boy Kiraitu proposing parliamentary
(https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/wednesday/jibo9pkjibmxqfmbif5bfef4fa3cd41.jpg)
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001304419/expand-executive-to-end-conflicts-kiraitu
Pwani - Kingi and Joho - want federal and parliamentary
(https://mobile.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/4882512/medRes/2189752/-/15n02dgz/-/Joho.jpg?format=xhtml)
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Joho-and-Kingi-push-for-three-tier-government/3126390-4882434-format-xhtml-pgxxhaz/index.html
Yes, do not forget the judiciary will be called to intervene - so yes this will be long drawn out battle. Let us have BBI report in October. I wonder when Raila and Uhuru will present their proposal there?
The requirement is 1M signatures, IEBC approval, simple majority in 24 counties, MPs simple majority, rederendum simple majority. Of course it a longdrawn fight - which is a big wedge and last straw in Jubilee.