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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nefertiti on May 08, 2019, 09:27:09 PM
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Tolgos, Buzeki, Mandago, Shollei... Quite a long list for the omnipotent Ruto to lose at a go. Iko nini - Gideon stepping up?
Ruto allies tell off Rift Valley leaders who quit DP's camp
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SUMMARY
Those who left the DP’s camp have accused some of Dr Ruto’s close allies of arrogance.
Elgeyo-Marakwet Governor Alex Tolgos, said he was not happy with the way he had been treated.
Uasin-Gishu businessman Bundotich Zedekiah Kiprop said he had quit after feeling disrespected by Dr Ruto’s allies. [/quote]
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Ruto-allies-tell-off--defectors-/3126390-5104214-raw6xdz/index.html
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nothing to see here.
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Mt Kenya want to meet to appoint Uhuru successor. Iko kitu - possible Ruto is being roasted.
Mt Kenya roots for Limuru conference to pick new kingpin
SUMMARY
Agriculture Cabinet Secretary Mwangi Kiunjuri and Meru Governor Kiraitu Murungi set the ball rolling last week when they called for the conference.
While some believe it should be held soon, others say it should take place a year or less to the General Election.
Two groups — Tanga Tanga and Kieleweke — pulling in different directions, have emerged.
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Leaders-demand-meeting-to-pick-Uhurus-heir/3126390-5101120-cmp86/index.html
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Looks like Arap Singh started a marathon at Usain Bolt pace.
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Looks like Arap Singh started a marathon at Usain Bolt pace.
Yup. Mpaka Moses Kuria is out. Smart alec overreached.. way too early.
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Ms Robina that title :lolz:
Babu made a fool.of himself selling to Luos a Kisumu SGR, Special Economic Zone and a revamped port. I think he is being taken to the cleaners.
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Ruto is so popular in GEMA - Uhuru is now begging Ruto to go slow. The problem is nobody trust Raila in Gemaland....
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001324790/uhuru-hand-in-ruto-s-cancelled-mt-kenya-rally
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Uhuru first objective is to govern without opposition - and he has achieved that - by swallowing NASA for cheap. Raila capitulation is the most hilarious I have seen from someone who got 46% of the vote. At the very least he would have asked for mkia - even 3 cabinet positions like Moi gave him in NDP-KANU merger ( an excellent deal if coz Raila had 10% of the vote then). All he has got for mortgaging 46% of kenyans is a fake job in AU and few appointments to the most moribund of gov agencies. And some promise to ammend the constitution via BBI nobody knows exist.
Ms Robina that title :lolz:
Babu made a fool.of himself selling to Luos a Kisumu SGR, Special Economic Zone and a revamped port. I think he is being taken to the cleaners.
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Uhuru first objective is to govern without opposition - and he has achieved that - by swallowing NASA for cheap. Raila capitulation is the most hilarious I have seen from someone who got 46% of the vote. At the very least he would have asked for mkia - even 3 cabinet positions like Moi gave him in NDP-KANU merger ( an excellent deal if coz Raila had 10% of the vote then). All he has got for mortgaging 46% of kenyans is a fake job in AU and few appointments to the most moribund of gov agencies. And some promise to ammend the constitution via BBI nobody knows exist.
Ms Robina that title :lolz:
Babu made a fool.of himself selling to Luos a Kisumu SGR, Special Economic Zone and a revamped port. I think he is being taken to the cleaners.
He has also been overfed with hope that Ruto is not sellable. This is his biggest consideration for kukunja mkia
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Perhaps "begging" has multiple meanings, but nothing in Uhuru's actions shows any detente or partnership with Ruto. Ruto has made inroads but exposed himself too early to rebuttle and sabbotage. If today was 2022 he would be home and dry. But 3 whole years to go - the dimwit Uhuru has time and tools to master a counter. The recent parastatal appointments of anti-Ruto folks - Wawerus, etc Kieleweke brigade - is an example. Their real job is to undermine Ruto.
Ruto is so popular in GEMA - Uhuru is now begging Ruto to go slow. The problem is nobody trust Raila in Gemaland....
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001324790/uhuru-hand-in-ruto-s-cancelled-mt-kenya-rally
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Ms Robina that title :lolz:
Babu made a fool.of himself selling to Luos a Kisumu SGR, Special Economic Zone and a revamped port. I think he is being taken to the cleaners.
My bad I meant "roaches" not "rats". Calm down. Babu had nothing before - except hollow title Kiongozi ya Upinzani - yet he is now eating Ruto's lunch. At 80 it's not a bad choice. I see it going either Ruto-Waiguru vs Raila-PK, or Babu backs another combo to take on Ruto. The later's headache remain Babu who has roped in Uhuru - akin to stealing the opponent's Queen in chess - the Nyoros are mere pawns. Big win by Babu - since Gema is the cradle 2022 - and Babu needed a fighting chance there. Noting how dusty, sweaty and breathless Ruto is now - contrast before - cos of 80 year old Babu.
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Good spin. Raila is pocketing Ruto change as the latter is cut off from deals by Uhuru. How exactly has he mortgaged his 46%? Ruto is battling hard for every follower - nothing is open in the air. NASA is actually intact and as we can see they are all against Ruto. Even the scorned Weta is back.
The real winner in this is Uhuru - no 50-50, no backing Ruto, no maandamano. Ruto remain the big loser. For this he has attempted to undermine Uhuru in parliament and failed. It's not by choice that he pretends to have Uhuru in his corner, it's by necessity.
Uhuru first objective is to govern without opposition - and he has achieved that - by swallowing NASA for cheap. Raila capitulation is the most hilarious I have seen from someone who got 46% of the vote. At the very least he would have asked for mkia - even 3 cabinet positions like Moi gave him in NDP-KANU merger ( an excellent deal if coz Raila had 10% of the vote then). All he has got for mortgaging 46% of kenyans is a fake job in AU and few appointments to the most moribund of gov agencies. And some promise to ammend the constitution via BBI nobody knows exist.
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50-50 ilikwisha kitambo - Ruto obviously has the 'smarts' to allow Uhuru the space to define his legacy - but if Uhuru was to interfere with 2022 plans - he'd see fire. He hasn't. I believe that is the understanding now - Uhuru focusing on his legacy - and Ruto on his political future. Uhuru has about 2 budgets now to nail his legacy - 19/20 and 20/21 - 21/22 budget will most likely be for electioneering.
Good spin. Raila is pocketing Ruto change as the latter is cut off from deals by Uhuru. How exactly has he mortgaged his 46%? Ruto is battling hard for every follower - nothing is open in the air. NASA is actually intact and as we can see they are all against Ruto. Even the scorned Weta is back.
The real winner in this is Uhuru - no 50-50, no backing Ruto, no maandamano. Ruto remain the big loser. For this he has attempted to undermine Uhuru in parliament and failed. It's not by choice that he pretends to have Uhuru in his corner, it's by necessity.
Uhuru first objective is to govern without opposition - and he has achieved that - by swallowing NASA for cheap. Raila capitulation is the most hilarious I have seen from someone who got 46% of the vote. At the very least he would have asked for mkia - even 3 cabinet positions like Moi gave him in NDP-KANU merger ( an excellent deal if coz Raila had 10% of the vote then). All he has got for mortgaging 46% of kenyans is a fake job in AU and few appointments to the most moribund of gov agencies. And some promise to ammend the constitution via BBI nobody knows exist.
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What "understanding"? His supervisor job taken. 50-50 kwisha.2022 endorsement nope. Murathe/Kamanda insults. Kinoti & Haji witch-hunt. This is not an "understanding" - about legacy or such - it's a divorce. Ruto threw violent tantrums - insulted Muhoho and Mama Ngina - tried to undermine GoK in parliament - and FAILED. Cause Raila/NASA backed Uhuru. He has done well in Central lining up 80% MPs - but it's too early to bank on it. Uhuru may be slow and Babu old - but 3 years is quite a long time in politics with PORK in the opposing camp.
Of course Ruto acolytes are smart to spin about "understanding" - while he brought in 50% - and now get scorned. They know open war with Uhuru would be a gold platter for Raila.
50-50 ilikwisha kitambo - Ruto obviously has the 'smarts' to allow Uhuru the space to define his legacy - but if Uhuru was to interfere with 2022 plans - he'd see fire. He hasn't. I believe that is the understanding now - Uhuru focusing on his legacy - and Ruto on his political future. Uhuru has about 2 budgets now to nail his legacy - 19/20 and 20/21 - 21/22 budget will most likely be for electioneering.
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As far as I know, the 50-50 principle was respected long time ago - when the cabinet was formed, ambassadors appointed and parastatals filled - there have been small tinkering here and there -to throw a few crumbs at Raila - but nothing major. I believe Ruto will allow Uhuru the space to define his legacy - as he focuses on 2022. I don't think Uhuru has moved Ruto cheese yet. There have been attempts by some civil servants type led by Kibicho to take advantage of handshake to try to remove Ruto from the saddle - nothing major.
What "understanding"? His supervisor job taken. 50-50 kwisha.2022 endorsement nope. Murathe/Kamanda insults. Kinoti & Haji witch-hunt. This is not an "understanding" - about legacy or such - it's a divorce. Ruto threw violent tantrums - insulted Muhoho and Mama Ngina - tried to undermine GoK in parliament - and FAILED. Cause Raila/NASA backed Uhuru. He has done well in Central lining up 80% MPs - but it's too early to bank on it. Uhuru may be slow and Babu old - but 3 years is quite a long time in politics with PORK in the opposing camp.
Of course Ruto acolytes are smart to spin about "understanding" - while he brought in 50% - and now get scorned. They know open war with Uhuru would be a gold platter for Raila.
50-50 ilikwisha kitambo - Ruto obviously has the 'smarts' to allow Uhuru the space to define his legacy - but if Uhuru was to interfere with 2022 plans - he'd see fire. He hasn't. I believe that is the understanding now - Uhuru focusing on his legacy - and Ruto on his political future. Uhuru has about 2 budgets now to nail his legacy - 19/20 and 20/21 - 21/22 budget will most likely be for electioneering.
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Pundit n I are not combatants or contenders - in fact we see eye to eye on many things. For instance we agree Ruto is Moi with a PhD - we merely differ on which PhD. :)
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Dr Sleaze in the sauce
Why Ruto camp is no longer at ease
SUNDAY MAY 12 2019
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Deputy President William Ruto addressing wananchi at Lokichar Baraza Grounds in Turkana South on May 11, 2019. Some of his allies have abandoned him. PHOTO | JONAH MWANGI | DPPS
In Summary
Woman Representative Gladys Shollei has also distanced herself from Dr Ruto’s team, saying she does not subscribe to their ideas.
Murang’a Governor Mwangi wa Iria and Gatundu South MP Moses Kuria, who between 2013 and 2017 were crusading for Dr Ruto’s 2022 presidency. But now the two have launched their own political paths.
Deputy President William Ruto’s camp is experiencing turmoil as a number of his foot soldiers in various parts of the country have either decided to jump ship or take the middle ground for fear of a backlash.
Some of Dr Ruto’s allies are now blaming senior government officials opposed to the Deputy President’s 2022 presidential bid for using “dirty tricks” to intimidate strong supporters.
The unease comes at a time Dr Ruto has intensified his meet-the-people tours across the country besides receiving delegations at his Karen home almost on a daily basis.
It also comes as Dr Ruto’s frequent contributions to churches have come under intense scrutiny, with opposition leaders Raila Odinga and Musalia Mudavadi, as well as mainstream church leaders, reviving debate on the source of the millions of shillings he dishes out.
Interestingly, the unrest is most profound in Dr Ruto’s own Rift Valley backyard where several politicians have either bolted out of his camp or taken a low profile, citing frustrations from his henchmen.
COLD RECEPTION
The key leaders who were once key in selling the Jubilee Party in the 2013 and 2017 elections are slowly moving away from him as they look for other options as the realignment ahead of the 2022 polls intensifies.
From the North Rift to the South, key political figures appear to be having second thoughts as far as their support of the DP is concerned.
However, it is in Uasin Gishu, Dr Ruto’s home county, that he is facing a clear revolt as most of the elected leaders have offered a cold reception or distanced themselves from his Tanga Tanga movement, preferring to focus on activities within their portfolios.
In the county, it’s only Kapseret MP Oscar Sudi and his Soy counterpart Caleb Kositany who are openly fronting the Tanga Tanga activities.
The rest, led by Governor Jackson Mandago and Senator Margaret Kamar, have recently given the group a wide berth.
They have lately been joined by County Woman Representative Gladys Shollei, MPs William Chepkut (Ainabkoi), Janet Sitienei (Turbo), Sila Tiren (Moiben) and Swarup Mishra (Kesses).
IDEOLOGY
Mr Mandago and Mr Mishra were initially part of the group but have recently cooled down their support.
Recently, Mr Mandago, who has not enjoyed a close relationship with Dr Ruto, urged the residents not to focus much on politics, saying they were bound to get hurt because politicians are not to be trusted.
"I said many bad things about Raila Odinga last time but if I was to be invited to State House, what will I tell him if I find him there? Politics is not for the weak," he said in reference to the elevated status of Mr Odinga in government since his handshake with the President in March last year.
Ms Shollei has also distanced herself from Dr Ruto’s team, saying she does not subscribe to their ideas.
“You will never see me in Tanga Tanga or Kieleweke movements’ functions. This is because I believe in development and not politics. That's why you don't see me moving around with them," said Ms Shollei recently.
MOI SUPPORTER
Dr Ruto played a key role in the election of Prof Kamar, who was facing a serious wave of rejection, but the senator has also lately remained silent and avoided the Tanga Tanga team.
Prominent Uasin Gishu businessman Zedekiah Bundotich Kiprop, commonly known as Buzeki, who was thought to be the DP’s preferred gubernatorial choice for the county in the last polls, has also left the DP in favour of a solo political career.
In neighbouring Elgeyo-Marakwet County, Governor Alex Tolgos became the first leader to dissociate from the DP’s group, urging for its disbandment instead.
The governor, who has also not enjoyed close ties with Dr Ruto, said he preferred working with Baringo Senator Gideon Moi, whom he said was receptive and respectful.
“I do not want anything to do with Kieleweke or Tanga Tanga. I will not join either. I will work with everyone including Mr Moi, who is respectful and does things the way I do,” Mr Tolgos said.
He blamed the county's Senator Kipchumba Murkomen, with whom he enjoys a frosty relationship, for the restlessness in the DP’s camp.
Mr Murkomen has, however, dismissed the governor, saying he would not engage in sideshows, and adding that he is fully focused on serving the people of Elgeyo-Marakwet and executing his duties well as the Senate Majority Leader.
ISAAC RUTO
Mr Kositany, who is among those accused of blocking others from meeting Dr Ruto, laughed off the claims, saying no one had been blocked from meeting the DP.
“This is a very cheap way of doing things. The DP is very accessible. Nobody has been blocked from seeing him,” Mr Kositany, a former aide of Dr Ruto, told the Sunday Nation on phone.
“The DP is accessible to all leaders, both elected and non-elected, and from all parties," he added.
In the South Rift, former Bomet Governor Isaac Ruto, who had mended fences with the DP last year, appears to be moving away once again as he seeks to revamp his Chama Cha Mashinani party in readiness for the 2022 elections.
Last week, he met Mr Buzeki and a number of the DP’s rebels led by Cherangany MP Joshua Kutuny in Nairobi, as he attempts to woo them to his outfit.
North Rift Kanu chairman Paul Kibet said Dr Ruto is to blame for being abandoned by his key allies for “not being accommodative”.
KANU
He said this explains why many leaders from Dr Ruto’s backyard were warming up to Kanu.
“People are following where the shadow is. Kanu is home to all leaders. Nobody had been chased anyway. The chickens have come home to roost and the DP should smell the coffee,” said Mr Kibet.
Those who quit the DP's camp much earlier are MPs Kutuny, Alfred Keter (Nandi Hills) and Sila Tiren (Moiben).
In Mt Kenya region, a section of Dr Ruto’s key campaigners have also gone silent amid his increased isolation in the Uhuru Kenyatta succession race.
Among them is Murang’a Governor Mwangi wa Iria and Gatundu South MP Moses Kuria, who between 2013 and 2017 were crusading for Dr Ruto’s 2022 presidency.
But now the two have launched their own political paths, with Mr Wa Iria having formed his own political party, effectively ditching the DP’s camp.
Recently, Mr Wa Iria held a closed-door meeting with Wiper Party leader Kalonzo Musyoka at Blue Post Hotel in Thika, a move that left tongues wagging.
Other hitherto Ruto allies who have gradually slowed down their campaigns for him include Kieni MP Kanini Kega, Sarah Korere (Laikipia North), Patrick Mariru (Laikipia West), Kareke Mbiuki (Mara) and senators Irungu Kang’ata (Murang’a) and Ephraim Maina (Nyeri).
HANDSHAKE
Also on the list is Kirinyaga Governor Anne Waiguru together with MPs Martha Wangari (Gilgil), Samuel Arama (Nakuru Town West) and David Gikaria (Nakuru Town East).
Asked about the political developments, Senator Maina said Mt Kenya leaders are not neutral but realistic on the issues affecting the residents and are being truthful to the calling.
But political analyst Phillip Kamau attributed the move by the Central Kenya politicians to the March 9, 2018 handshake between President Kenyatta and Mr Odinga.
“They went quiet and took the neutral position for fear of the outcome of the handshake. It is a political safety card. Their silence cannot have an impact on Dr Ruto’s 2022 ambitions,” said Mr Kamau.
The scenario is replicated in the coast region where hitherto pro-Ruto campaigners have suddenly retreated and are now pushing for the unity of the region.
MPs who have been coalescing around the DP include Shariff Alwy (Lamu), Michael Kingi (Magarini), Owen Baya (Kilifi North), Ali Mbogo (Kisauni), Badi Twalib (Jomvu), Benjamin Tayari (Kinango) and Kaloleni MP Paul Katana.
Save for Malindi MP Aisha Jumwa, who has not hidden her support for Dr Ruto, the rest of the DP’s allies have taken a low profile.
Stories by Jeremiah Kiplagat, Wycliffe Kipsang, Joseph Wangui and Samuel Kazungu
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Why-Ruto-camp-is-no-longer-at-ease/1064-5111174-80acalz/index.html
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You are still stuck in the echo chamber of Dark Forces - hio ni cheap. Did Kibicho or Nancy promote Matian'gi? Or order Haji-Kinoti witch-hunt? Or send Murathe & Kamanda - Uhuru parrots - who Jomo Gecaga text what insults to say next? Uhuru is up to all these - scorn - with Raila/NASA backing. About 50-50 and Ruto cheese - this is moving gradually. Already IG, Sport CS, parastatals appointmets - Ruto is not getting his share since the Handcheque. Ruto was lucky at cabinet appointments Raila was not yet in Uhuru corner - so Uhuru needed Ruto. He got his 50-50 but how does he run their departments or influence deals when he is not consulted on anything? The CSs or MDs or ambasadors or commissioners or whoevers - know DPORK has zero power over them without PORK acquisence. So he basically appointed folks he can't control. A few may still be loyal but dare not show it openly due to the fallout. Supporting Ruto is the quickest way to lose your job in GoK today.
As far as I know, the 50-50 principle was respected long time ago - when the cabinet was formed, ambassadors appointed and parastatals filled - there have been small tinkering here and there -to throw a few crumbs at Raila - but nothing major. I believe Ruto will allow Uhuru the space to define his legacy - as he focuses on 2022. I don't think Uhuru has moved Ruto cheese yet. There have been attempts by some civil servants type led by Kibicho to take advantage of handshake to try to remove Ruto from the saddle - nothing major
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Meanwhile Turkana is falling on line
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Kibicho and Nancy are small potatoes in the big scheme of things. Uhuru went to see Ruto and those issues seem to have been resolved. There is no stopping Ruto. Ruto has given Uhuru the leeway to execute his vision in the last 3yrs. Obviously, Uhuru is the bride - and GEMA is the prize - and Ruto will not fall into Kibicho-Nancy tricks - GEMA are fiercely loyal to Ruto - so I don't see why Ruto should worry. Uhuru is the big picture guy - and has left Kibicho & Matiangi to get stuff done. Tough luck with that.
You are still stuck in the echo chamber of Dark Forces - hio ni cheap. Did Kibicho or Nancy promote Matian'gi? Or order Haji-Kinoti witch-hunt? Or send Murathe & Kamanda - Uhuru parrots - who Jomo Gecaga text what insults to say next? Uhuru is up to all these - scorn - with Raila/NASA backing. About 50-50 and Ruto cheese - this is moving gradually. Already IG, Sport CS, parastatals appointmets - Ruto is not getting his share since the Handcheque. Ruto was lucky at cabinet appointments Raila was not yet in Uhuru corner - so Uhuru needed Ruto. He got his 50-50 but how does he run their departments or influence deals when he is not consulted on anything? The CSs or MDs or ambasadors or commissioners or whoevers - know DPORK has zero power over them without PORK acquisence. So he basically appointed folks he can't control. A few may still be loyal but dare not show it openly due to the fallout. Supporting Ruto is the quickest way to lose your job in GoK today.
As far as I know, the 50-50 principle was respected long time ago - when the cabinet was formed, ambassadors appointed and parastatals filled - there have been small tinkering here and there -to throw a few crumbs at Raila - but nothing major. I believe Ruto will allow Uhuru the space to define his legacy - as he focuses on 2022. I don't think Uhuru has moved Ruto cheese yet. There have been attempts by some civil servants type led by Kibicho to take advantage of handshake to try to remove Ruto from the saddle - nothing major
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Look like Uhuru is the one whose is isolated
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I don't care much for the lazy fool outside of undermining Ruto. If Raila doesn't step up we have no option but to wait for the Ruto coronation. I still think the dimwit Uhuru has the time and tools to scuttle Ruto. The open question is what Uhuru has in mind? Time will tell.
Look like Uhuru is the one whose is isolated
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