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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on March 23, 2019, 10:17:47 AM
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Okay so we are now in MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. This will be interesting.
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Okay so we are now in MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. This will be interesting.
Your man needs an adviser. I am open to offer free advise at any time. The enemy of my enemy is (malizia)
But first he MUST NOT respond to Uhuru directly or publicly
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Okay so we are now in MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. This will be interesting.
There is no MAD. Uhuru controls the levers of state power. He is just too slow to destroy Ruto. He lacks the killer instinct.
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Uhuru is lame-duck. 2010 constitution trims his powers drastically. He is not a politician who can make things happen. He is just relying on Raila for backup.As for Ruto - he is battle-hardened general. Ask Raila. Ruto has incredible energy and you don't want to make enemies with him. And Ruto pulls no punches. Once it game on - it's game on.
Ultimately I feel sorry for 1m kikuyu & Kalenjin diaspora - who will be victims of this war.I mean the worse Uhuru can do is to sack Ruto people in gov and bring in Raila people. That will spark war in RV and he will have destabilized the country.
The other actions he can take (like fight against "graft") can easily be countered through judiciary or parliament.
There is no MAD. Uhuru controls the levers of state power. He is just too slow to destroy Ruto. He lacks the killer instinct.
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By responding to Uhuru publicly he has forced action against himself.
If Uhuru ignores it, he loses face and Ruto gains in stature. The most recent example of insubordination is when General Chiwenga openly criticized Mugabe. There was no doubt that something or someone had to give. Mugabe hesitated and he is in forced late retirement.
If Uhuru hesitates in taking decisive action, Ruto will own him faster than one can say "coup". The generals and others in government will be watching to see where real power rests. Uhuru by remaining silent and inactive will be telling all that the man to fear is Ruto and that will not be in the GEMA interests.
Uhuru has no choice but to cause the removal of Ruto as soon as possible. Another option is to cause some kind of public humiliation to remind the public he (Uhuru) is still the King of the Hill.
On the other hand if Ruto had a plan to get rid of Uhuru now is the time to put it in to action. By publishing that tweet, he effectively put an end to any secret plan and brought it out in the open.
Uhuru is lame-duck. 2010 constitution trims his powers drastically. He is not a politician who can make things happen. He is just relying on Raila for backup.As for Ruto - he is battle-hardened general. Ask Raila. Ruto has incredible energy and you don't want to make enemies with him. And Ruto pulls no punches. Once it game on - it's game on.
Ultimately I feel sorry for 1m kikuyu & Kalenjin diaspora - who will be victims of this war.I mean the worse Uhuru can do is to sack Ruto people in gov and bring in Raila people. That will spark war in RV and he will have destabilized the country.
The other actions he can take (like fight against "graft") can easily be countered through judiciary or parliament.
There is no MAD. Uhuru controls the levers of state power. He is just too slow to destroy Ruto. He lacks the killer instinct.
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You're basically describing MAD - which explain why Uhuru 3M facebook account - the biggest in Africa is now in limbo. Both knows that if they cross the rubicon river - there will be no turning back - and it will be fight that will probably destroy both of them.
Now Let us be specific. What actions do you think Uhuru can unleash? Unless you mean he does things extra-judicially - he cannot fire Ruto. Ruto is going to stay in Karen DPORK official residence the next 5yrs which explain why he turned his Karen house into a hotel and moved to DPORK house in Karen.
The action that Uhuru people seem to favor now is perhaps graft. Ruto already knows that - and is doing somewhat great job - turning the fight into political battle. That is all this will come to - Uhuru can proceed to charge Ruto or his people - and they are already lawyered up - and that pretty much the end of Kinoti usefulness Mwilu is still at work.
Uhuru already took the supervision job from Ruto to Matiangi. Matiangi seem already overwhelmed and Ruto had to step in to help Turkana & Baringo famine. The problem for Uhuru is finding someone who can do gov and political heavy-lifting like Ruto does effortless - Matiangi will be sabotaged by fellow ministers and he lacks the political adeptness needed. Uhuru himself is lazy if not drunk most of the time.
Anyway long and short of this. GEMA are in fix!. First time the prospect of leaving power is REAL. Uhuru is facing term limit constraint and he doesn't want to appoint successor or go home. GEMA now find itself having to choose either Ruto or Raila. That makes them very unhappy. I think they will choose the evil they know - Ruto - has worked with them pretty well - and GEMA are mad at Uhuru for starting this war. There is no one in GEMA who can step up in short notice for Uhuru - no Kibaki & Matiba or Kibaki & Uhuru - who has won enough national credibility to be considered for PORK.
And that is their biggest dillema. They want to abuse Raila to tame Ruto but have no end game. I think we might finally get federalism out this.
By responding to Uhuru publicly he has forced action against himself.
If Uhuru ignores it, he loses face and Ruto gains in stature. The most recent example of insubordination is when General Chiwenga openly criticized Mugabe. There was no doubt that something or someone had to give. Mugabe hesitated and he is in forced late retirement.
If Uhuru hesitates in taking decisive action, Ruto will own him faster than one can say "coup". The generals and others in government will be watching to see where real power rests. Uhuru by remaining silent and inactive will be telling all that the man to fear is Ruto and that will not be in the GEMA interests.
Uhuru has no choice but to cause the removal of Ruto as soon as possible. Another option is to cause some kind of public humiliation to remind the public he (Uhuru) is still the King of the Hill.
On the other hand if Ruto had a plan to get rid of Uhuru now is the time to put it in to action. By publishing that tweet, he effectively put an end to any secret plan and brought it out in the open.
Uhuru is lame-duck. 2010 constitution trims his powers drastically. He is not a politician who can make things happen. He is just relying on Raila for backup.As for Ruto - he is battle-hardened general. Ask Raila. Ruto has incredible energy and you don't want to make enemies with him. And Ruto pulls no punches. Once it game on - it's game on.
Ultimately I feel sorry for 1m kikuyu & Kalenjin diaspora - who will be victims of this war.I mean the worse Uhuru can do is to sack Ruto people in gov and bring in Raila people. That will spark war in RV and he will have destabilized the country.
The other actions he can take (like fight against "graft") can easily be countered through judiciary or parliament.
There is no MAD. Uhuru controls the levers of state power. He is just too slow to destroy Ruto. He lacks the killer instinct.
By responding to Uhuru publicly he has forced action against himself.
If Uhuru ignores it, he loses face and Ruto gains in stature. The most recent example of insubordination is when General Chiwenga openly criticized Mugabe. There was no doubt that something or someone had to give. Mugabe hesitated and he is in forced late retirement.
If Uhuru hesitates in taking decisive action, Ruto will own him faster than one can say "coup". The generals and others in government will be watching to see where real power rests. Uhuru by remaining silent and inactive will be telling all that the man to fear is Ruto and that will not be in the GEMA interests.
Uhuru has no choice but to cause the removal of Ruto as soon as possible. Another option is to cause some kind of public humiliation to remind the public he (Uhuru) is still the King of the Hill.
On the other hand if Ruto had a plan to get rid of Uhuru now is the time to put it in to action. By publishing that tweet, he effectively put an end to any secret plan and brought it out in the open.
Uhuru is lame-duck. 2010 constitution trims his powers drastically. He is not a politician who can make things happen. He is just relying on Raila for backup.As for Ruto - he is battle-hardened general. Ask Raila. Ruto has incredible energy and you don't want to make enemies with him. And Ruto pulls no punches. Once it game on - it's game on.
Ultimately I feel sorry for 1m kikuyu & Kalenjin diaspora - who will be victims of this war.I mean the worse Uhuru can do is to sack Ruto people in gov and bring in Raila people. That will spark war in RV and he will have destabilized the country.
The other actions he can take (like fight against "graft") can easily be countered through judiciary or parliament.
There is no MAD. Uhuru controls the levers of state power. He is just too slow to destroy Ruto. He lacks the killer instinct.
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Ever since I inadvertently offered a despot advise on how to beat rebels and stay in power, I try hard to resist answering questions like the one you now ask. If I tell you the options open to Uhuru, I would effectively be advising Uhuru on how to beat Ruto and that is NOT in my interests. We can ofcourse have a private discussion
Suffice is to say:
1. Something or someone MUST give deliberately or by default
2. The onus is upon Uhuru since Ruto has crossed the Rubicon Pretending he has not is worse than lying.
Here is what Ruto has done:
a. He has publicly contradicted his boss who happens to be The PORK
b. He has questioned Uhuru Kenyatta's leadership in public
c. He has declared a counter war against Uhuru again in public
For a fraction of the above stuff, Kenyatta would order you quartered and your balls fried specially for his dog while Moi would dissolve you in acid.
I feel compelled to address the issue of EJ (Extra Judicially) that you raised:
Before Zimbabwe no government in Africa had ever been overthrown because a vice president was fired. Still on the boos is the fact that no government has ever been overthrown because the VP was murdered. There is usually noise - a lot of noise - but it calms down and life goes on.
You're basically describing MAD - which explain why Uhuru 3M facebook account - the biggest in Africa is now in limbo. Both knows that if they cross the rubicon river - there will be no turning back - and it will be fight that will probably destroy both of them.
Now Let us be specific. What actions do you think Uhuru can unleash? Unless you mean he does things extra-judicially - he cannot fired Ruto. Ruto is going to stay in Karen the next 5yrs which explain why he turned his Karen house into a hotel and moved to DPORK house in Karen.
The action that Uhuru people seem to favor now is perhaps graft. Ruto already knows that - and is doing somewhat great job - characteristic the fight as political fight targeting him and his people. That is all this will come to - Uhuru can proceed to charge Ruto or his people - and they are already lawyered up - and that pretty much it.DCJ Mwilu is still at work.
Uhuru already took the supervision job from Ruto to Matiangi. Matiangi seem already overwhelmed and Ruto had to step in to help Turkana & Baringo famine. The problem for Uhuru is finding someone who can do gov and political heavy-lifting like Ruto does effortless - Matiangi will be sabotaged by fellow ministers and he lacks the political adeptness needed. Uhuru himself is lazy if not drunk most of the time.
Anyway long and short of this. GEMA are in fix!. First time the prospect of leaving power is REAL. Uhuru is facing term limit constraint and he doesn't want to appoint successor or go home. GEMA now find itself having to choose either Ruto or Raila. That makes them very unhappy. I think they will choose the evil they know - Ruto - has worked with them pretty well - and GEMA are mad at Uhuru for starting this war. There is no one in GEMA who can step up in short notice for Uhuru - no Kibaki & Matiba or Kibaki & Uhuru - who has won enough national credibility to be considered for PORK.
And that is their biggest dillema. They want to abuse Raila to tame Ruto but have no end game. I think we might finally get federalism out this.
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I didn't catch any of that. Are you suggesting Uhuru uses extra-judicial means? or what. I mean he cannot fire DPORK like Mugabe or Moi or Kibaki could fire their opponents. He can fire Ruto men one by one - those that don't enjoy security of tenure - like Shebale Slum dog Acheza - but ultimately he cannot touch Ruto position. I think that embolden Ruto. He also cannot out-bribe Ruto. Ruto took 5yrs meticously building a warchest - and that is what made Uhuru mad. He thought Ruto was a stupid gishagi boy from Sugoi - but when NIS presented evidence of Ruto wealth - he was shocked. And that is what Uhuru has been struggling with it - accepting the reality that Ruto has out-stolen him. It's like Moi and GEMA. GEMA thought MOI was stupid....only to later find out Moi & Biwott had literally stolen half of kenya. So Ruto clearly knows this graft fight is the as result of NIS & OP - doing a Kroll Associates on Ruto alleged wealth - and discovering that he stashed an incredible loot - by getting 10% nearly everywhere.
Ever since I inadvertently offered a despot advise on how to beat rebels and stay in power, I try hard to resist answering questions like the one you now ask. If I tell you the options open to Uhuru, I would effectively be advising Uhuru on how to beat Ruto and that is NOT in my interests.
Suffice is to say:
1. Something or someone MUST give deliberately or by default
2. The onus is upon Uhuru since Ruto has crossed the Rubicon Pretending he has not is worse than lying.
Here is what Ruto has done:
a. He has publicly contradicted his boss who happens to be The PORK
b. He has questioned Uhuru Kenyatta's leadership in public
c. He has declared a counter war against Uhuru again in public
For a fraction of the above stuff, Kenyatta would order you quartered and your balls fried specially for his dog while Moi would dissolve you in acid.
I feel compelled to address the issue of EJ (Extra Judicially) that you raised:
Before Zimbabwe no government in Africa had ever been overthrown because a vice president was fired. Still on the boos is the fact that no government has ever been overthrown because the VP was murdered. There is usually noise - a lot of noise - but it calms down and life goes on.
You're basically describing MAD - which explain why Uhuru 3M facebook account - the biggest in Africa is now in limbo. Both knows that if they cross the rubicon river - there will be no turning back - and it will be fight that will probably destroy both of them.
Now Let us be specific. What actions do you think Uhuru can unleash? Unless you mean he does things extra-judicially - he cannot fired Ruto. Ruto is going to stay in Karen the next 5yrs which explain why he turned his Karen house into a hotel and moved to DPORK house in Karen.
The action that Uhuru people seem to favor now is perhaps graft. Ruto already knows that - and is doing somewhat great job - characteristic the fight as political fight targeting him and his people. That is all this will come to - Uhuru can proceed to charge Ruto or his people - and they are already lawyered up - and that pretty much it.DCJ Mwilu is still at work.
Uhuru already took the supervision job from Ruto to Matiangi. Matiangi seem already overwhelmed and Ruto had to step in to help Turkana & Baringo famine. The problem for Uhuru is finding someone who can do gov and political heavy-lifting like Ruto does effortless - Matiangi will be sabotaged by fellow ministers and he lacks the political adeptness needed. Uhuru himself is lazy if not drunk most of the time.
Anyway long and short of this. GEMA are in fix!. First time the prospect of leaving power is REAL. Uhuru is facing term limit constraint and he doesn't want to appoint successor or go home. GEMA now find itself having to choose either Ruto or Raila. That makes them very unhappy. I think they will choose the evil they know - Ruto - has worked with them pretty well - and GEMA are mad at Uhuru for starting this war. There is no one in GEMA who can step up in short notice for Uhuru - no Kibaki & Matiba or Kibaki & Uhuru - who has won enough national credibility to be considered for PORK.
And that is their biggest dillema. They want to abuse Raila to tame Ruto but have no end game. I think we might finally get federalism out this.
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The issues you raise about Ruto's wealth and grabbing capacity are not in doubt. I also know Ruto is meticulous and hard working (in a non GEMA fashion).
I will not clarify what I wrote earlier.
That said let's examine the claim that Ruto cannot be removed:
150. (1) The Deputy President may be removed from office—
(a) on the ground of physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of the office; or
(b) on impeachment—
(i) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this
Constitution or any other law;
(ii) where there are serious reasons to believe that the Deputy President has committed a crime under national or inter- national law; or
(iii) for gross misconduct.
(2) The provisions of Articles 144 and 145 relating to the removal of the President shall apply, with the necessary modifications, to the removal of the Deputy President.
so what do chapters 144 and 145 say:
144. (1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a quarter of all the members, may move a motion for the investigation
of the President’s physical or mental capacity to perform the functions
of office.
(2) If a motion under clause (1) is supported by a majority of all the members of the National Assembly—
(a) the Speaker shall inform the Chief Justice of that resolution within two days; and
(b) the President shall continue to perform the functions of the office pending the outcome of the proceedings required by this Article.
(3) Within seven days after receiving notice of the resolution from the Speaker, the Chief Justice shall appoint a tribunal consisting of—
(a) three persons who are qualified to practise medicine under the laws of Kenya, nominated by the body which by law is responsible for regulating the professional practice of medicine; (b) one advocate of the High Court nominated by the body which by law is responsible for regulating the professional practice of advocates; and
(c) one person nominated by the President.
(4) If the Chief Justice is unable to appoint a tribunal under clause (3), the Deputy Chief Justice shall appoint such a tribunal.
(5) If the President is unable to nominate the person required to be nominated under clause (3) (c), the person shall be nominated by––
(a) a member of the family of the President; or
(b) if no such member is willing or able to make the nomination, by a close relative of the President.
(6) The tribunal shall inquire into the matter and, within fourteen days after the appointment, report to the Chief Justice and to the Speaker of the National Assembly.
(7) The Speaker shall cause the report of the tribunal to be tabled before the National Assembly within seven days after receiving it.
(8) The report of the tribunal shall be final and not subject to appeal and if the tribunal reports that the President is capable of performing
and 145:
the functions of the office, the Speaker of the National Assembly shall
so announce in the National Assembly.
(9) If the tribunal reports that the President is incapable of performing the functions of the office, the National Assembly shall vote on whether to ratify the report.
(10) If a majority of all the members of the National Assembly vote in favour of ratifying the report, the President shall cease to hold office.
145. (1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President—
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this
Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
(2) If a motion under clause (1) is supported by at least two-thirds of all the members of the National Assembly—
(a) the Speaker shall inform the Speaker of the Senate of that resolution within two days; and
(b) the President shall continue to perform the functions of the office pending the outcome of the proceedings required by this Article.
(3) Within seven days after receiving notice of a resolution from the Speaker of the National Assembly—
(a) the Speaker of the Senate shall convene a meeting of the
Senate to hear charges against the President; and
(b) the Senate, by resolution, may appoint a special committee comprising eleven of its members to investigate the matter.
(4) A special committee appointed under clause (3) (b) shall— (a) investigate the matter; and
(b) report to the Senate within ten days whether it finds the particulars of the allegations against the President to have been substantiated.
(5) The President shall have the right to appear and be represented before the special committee during its investigations.
(6) If the special committee reports that the particulars of any allegation against the President—
(a) have not been substantiated, further proceedings shall not be taken under this Article in respect of that allegation; or
(b) have been substantiated, the Senate shall, after according the President an opportunity to be heard, vote on the impeachment charges.
Vacancy in the office
of President.
(7) If at least two-thirds of all the members of the Senate vote to uphold any impeachment charge, the President shall cease to hold office.
I didn't catch any of that. Are you suggesting Uhuru uses extra-judicial means? or what. I mean he cannot fire DPORK like Mugabe or Moi or Kibaki could fire their opponents. He can fire Ruto men one by one - those that don't enjoy security of tenure - like Shebale Slum dog Acheza - but ultimately he cannot touch Ruto position. I think that embolden Ruto. He also cannot out-bribe Ruto. Ruto took 5yrs meticously building a warchest - and that is what made Uhuru mad.
He thought Ruto was a stupid gishagi boy from Sugoi - but when NIS presented evidence of Ruto wealth - he was shocked. And that is what Uhuru has been struggling with it - accepting the reality that Ruto has out-stolen him. It's like Moi and GEMA. GEMA thought MOI was stupid....only to later find out Moi & Biwott had literally stolen half of kenya. So Ruto clearly knows this graft fight is the as result of NIS & OP - doing a Kroll Associates on Ruto alleged wealth - and discovering that he stashed an incredible loot - by getting 10% nearly everywhere.
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Omollo Zim happened because Mugabe was senile. Young Bob was like Moi and Jomo combined. This Uhu-Ruto war is very good for Raila and Kenya - there is at least a pretend war on corruption and we could get some reforms as bonus - lots of people like me are very happy. Ruto is the biggest loser.
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Senile or not, he had a three week window to act on Chiwenga and Mnangagwa but failed. That emboldened Chiwenga who took the next step to overthrow him.
Uhuru has a few days to act or his own people will be flocking to Karen to pledge their loyalty to Ruto.
Omollo Zim happened because Mugabe was senile. Young Bob was like Moi and Jomo combined. This Uhu-Ruto war is very good for Raila and Kenya - there is at least a pretend war on corruption and we could get some reforms as bonus - lots of people like me are very happy. Ruto is the biggest loser.
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You mean impeachment ; nobody is getting 2/3. I mean not a single governor has been successfully impeached. Even where senate okayed it - governors found a way to tie that in court. What is Orengo who brought vote of no confidence on Ruto - and lost baldy. Any move to impeach Uhuru or Ruto will just make our MPs richer from all the bribes...but ultimately getting through 2/3 - that is like 220-230mps is not easy feat. And for senators - that even hard - you need more than 32 elected senators.
The issues you raise about Ruto's wealth and grabbing capacity are not in doubt. I also know Ruto is meticulous and hard working (in a non GEMA fashion).
I will not clarify what I wrote earlier.
That said let's examine the claim that Ruto cannot be removed:
150. (1) The Deputy President may be removed from office—
(a) on the ground of physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of the office; or
(b) on impeachment—
(i) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this
Constitution or any other law;
(ii) where there are serious reasons to believe that the Deputy President has committed a crime under national or inter- national law; or
(iii) for gross misconduct.
(2) The provisions of Articles 144 and 145 relating to the removal of the President shall apply, with the necessary modifications, to the removal of the Deputy President.
so what do chapters 144 and 145 say:
144. (1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a quarter of all the members, may move a motion for the investigation
of the President’s physical or mental capacity to perform the functions
of office.
(2) If a motion under clause (1) is supported by a majority of all the members of the National Assembly—
(a) the Speaker shall inform the Chief Justice of that resolution within two days; and
(b) the President shall continue to perform the functions of the office pending the outcome of the proceedings required by this Article.
(3) Within seven days after receiving notice of the resolution from the Speaker, the Chief Justice shall appoint a tribunal consisting of—
(a) three persons who are qualified to practise medicine under the laws of Kenya, nominated by the body which by law is responsible for regulating the professional practice of medicine; (b) one advocate of the High Court nominated by the body which by law is responsible for regulating the professional practice of advocates; and
(c) one person nominated by the President.
(4) If the Chief Justice is unable to appoint a tribunal under clause (3), the Deputy Chief Justice shall appoint such a tribunal.
(5) If the President is unable to nominate the person required to be nominated under clause (3) (c), the person shall be nominated by––
(a) a member of the family of the President; or
(b) if no such member is willing or able to make the nomination, by a close relative of the President.
(6) The tribunal shall inquire into the matter and, within fourteen days after the appointment, report to the Chief Justice and to the Speaker of the National Assembly.
(7) The Speaker shall cause the report of the tribunal to be tabled before the National Assembly within seven days after receiving it.
(8) The report of the tribunal shall be final and not subject to appeal and if the tribunal reports that the President is capable of performing
and 145:
the functions of the office, the Speaker of the National Assembly shall
so announce in the National Assembly.
(9) If the tribunal reports that the President is incapable of performing the functions of the office, the National Assembly shall vote on whether to ratify the report.
(10) If a majority of all the members of the National Assembly vote in favour of ratifying the report, the President shall cease to hold office.
145. (1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President—
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this
Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
(2) If a motion under clause (1) is supported by at least two-thirds of all the members of the National Assembly—
(a) the Speaker shall inform the Speaker of the Senate of that resolution within two days; and
(b) the President shall continue to perform the functions of the office pending the outcome of the proceedings required by this Article.
(3) Within seven days after receiving notice of a resolution from the Speaker of the National Assembly—
(a) the Speaker of the Senate shall convene a meeting of the
Senate to hear charges against the President; and
(b) the Senate, by resolution, may appoint a special committee comprising eleven of its members to investigate the matter.
(4) A special committee appointed under clause (3) (b) shall— (a) investigate the matter; and
(b) report to the Senate within ten days whether it finds the particulars of the allegations against the President to have been substantiated.
(5) The President shall have the right to appear and be represented before the special committee during its investigations.
(6) If the special committee reports that the particulars of any allegation against the President—
(a) have not been substantiated, further proceedings shall not be taken under this Article in respect of that allegation; or
(b) have been substantiated, the Senate shall, after according the President an opportunity to be heard, vote on the impeachment charges.
Vacancy in the office
of President.
(7) If at least two-thirds of all the members of the Senate vote to uphold any impeachment charge, the President shall cease to hold office.
I didn't catch any of that. Are you suggesting Uhuru uses extra-judicial means? or what. I mean he cannot fire DPORK like Mugabe or Moi or Kibaki could fire their opponents. He can fire Ruto men one by one - those that don't enjoy security of tenure - like Shebale Slum dog Acheza - but ultimately he cannot touch Ruto position. I think that embolden Ruto. He also cannot out-bribe Ruto. Ruto took 5yrs meticously building a warchest - and that is what made Uhuru mad.
He thought Ruto was a stupid gishagi boy from Sugoi - but when NIS presented evidence of Ruto wealth - he was shocked. And that is what Uhuru has been struggling with it - accepting the reality that Ruto has out-stolen him. It's like Moi and GEMA. GEMA thought MOI was stupid....only to later find out Moi & Biwott had literally stolen half of kenya. So Ruto clearly knows this graft fight is the as result of NIS & OP - doing a Kroll Associates on Ruto alleged wealth - and discovering that he stashed an incredible loot - by getting 10% nearly everywhere.
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I agree- Uhuru should immediately fire one of Ruto's close guys like Henry Rotich or Charles Keter. I think he has the spine but very lazy with a low IQ.
Senile or not, he had a three week window to act on Chiwenga and Mnangagwa but failed. That emboldened Chiwenga who took the next step to overthrow him.
Uhuru has a few days to act or his own people will be flocking to Karen to pledge their loyalty to Ruto.
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Uhuru is very intelligent - he had to work for his Amhrest degree. The problem really is lack of work ethic and drug abuse. Which is understandable when you're Kenyatta son and worth billions of dollars.
A civil war with Ruto will gift you man Raila with an entry back to the saddle. I think both UhuRuto will make peace before it get bad. That is why those tweets were deleted.
Uhuru really cannot function without Ruto - I mean Matiangi can get stuff done but he is just a minister - and Raila can help with politics - but that is akin to kissing a skunk.
I agree- Uhuru should immediately fire one of Ruto's close guys like Henry Rotich or Charles Keter. I think he has the spine but very lazy with a low IQ.
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I hope all kids are fast asleep now. Let's talk grown up.
Back in 1997 my Mzungu neighbor's Zambian wife went to town on a friday met a Nigerian with a very long dick and only returned home a few days later when the husband threatened to report her missing and start the process of declaring her dead.
Her "return" like that of the Prime Minister's wife in Gulliver's Travels, was short and intended to ensure she wasn't ever "disturbed by the husband" again. She took her clothes, money, jewelry and signed away the kids before repairing to her Nigerian Lover.
I spent many hours comforting my neighbor who was ever hopeful that his wife and mother of his two kids would return.
Though eventually kicked out by the Nigerian-With-A-Long-Dick, she never returned to my neighbor. During one of my missions to counsel her to return, she told me: The guy (husband) does not reach "there".
I admire Pundit's hopefulness or should we call it optimism. Like my neighbor, he is hopeful that the Uhuruto deal will be salvaged. He is exactly where KM and I were during the NARA Regime's tenure when I was telling KM "we've been screwed" and he would respond with predictable optimism of Kibaki's goodness towards Raila. As a disciple of Thoreau (of the "If I knew someone was coming to my house with the intention of doing me good, I would run as fast as my legs could carry me so he would not do any of his good to me"), I found it insulting.
Pundit, this not about Uhuru and his goodness or generosity towards Ruto. It is about keeping it within GEMA. Both Ruto and Raila are lined up for a huge fuck.
Which is why I long predicted that Ruto and Raila will enter a pact. The result: 2007-08 PEV afresh because GEMA will still rig elections.
Best scenario: Ruto agrees to amend the constitution to create a Westminster style Parliamentary democracy with a PM based on parliamentary strength. He and Raila can then send Uhuru home into retirement along with the GEMA rigging machine. It won't really matter who between them is President or Powerful (Teresa May-like) PM. Their parliamentary strength will determine their cooperation. They would ofcourse be watching a common enemy: GEMA.
There is NO WAY Uhuru Kenyatta and GEMA can honor any deal with either Raila or Uhuru as long as it means they losing the levers of power. May be if you are look at a Tshisekedi like Presidency which Kabila will get rid of any time.
Uhuru is very intelligent - he had to work for his Amhrest degree. The problem really is lack of work ethic and drug abuse. Which is understandable when you're Kenyatta son and worth billions of dollars.
A civil war with Ruto will gift you man Raila with an entry back to the saddle. I think both UhuRuto will make peace before it get bad. That is why those tweets were deleted.
Uhuru really cannot function without Ruto - I mean Matiangi can get stuff done but he is just a minister - and Raila can help with politics - but that is akin to kissing a skunk.
I agree- Uhuru should immediately fire one of Ruto's close guys like Henry Rotich or Charles Keter. I think he has the spine but very lazy with a low IQ.
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Of course Uhuru is stupid - very low acumen - example he let Ruto line up cronies in his backyard - what a fool.
How Uhuru views a Ruto vs Raila presidency? He wants Raila to win not Ruto - that explains the events since elections. I disagree this is about the loot envy. He fear Ruto presidency and Ralia the mganga exploits the fear. Uhuru has the spine to fight Ruto - and does not care about any legacy - what is in question is their ability to finish off Ruto.
Uhuru is very intelligent - he had to work for his Amhrest degree. The problem really is lack of work ethic and drug abuse. Which is understandable when you're Kenyatta son and worth billions of dollars.
A civil war with Ruto will gift you man Raila with an entry back to the saddle. I think both UhuRuto will make peace before it get bad. That is why those tweets were deleted.
Uhuru really cannot function without Ruto - I mean Matiangi can get stuff done but he is just a minister - and Raila can help with politics - but that is akin to kissing a skunk.
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You mean impeachment ; nobody is getting 2/3. I mean not a single governor has been successfully impeached. Even where senate okayed it - governors found a way to tie that in court. What is Orengo who brought vote of no confidence on Ruto - and lost baldy. Any move to impeach Uhuru or Ruto will just make our MPs richer from all the bribes...but ultimately getting through 2/3 - that is like 220-230mps is not easy feat. And for senators - that even hard - you need more than 32 elected senators.
When I counted and included known turncoats I found Uhuru with support from Raila and massive bribes and NIS threats can get those numbers
Let us do a head count of senators pole pole.
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i had to check if this was kichwa mbaya.uhuru wants raila as pork.lol
Of course Uhuru is stupid - very low acumen - example he let Ruto line up cronies in his backyard - what a fool.
How Uhuru views a Ruto vs Raila presidency? He wants Raila to win not Ruto - that explains the events since elections. I disagree this is about the loot envy. He fear Ruto presidency and Ralia the mganga exploits the fear. Uhuru has the spine to fight Ruto - and does not care about any legacy - what is in question is their ability to finish off Ruto.
Uhuru is very intelligent - he had to work for his Amhrest degree. The problem really is lack of work ethic and drug abuse. Which is understandable when you're Kenyatta son and worth billions of dollars.
A civil war with Ruto will gift you man Raila with an entry back to the saddle. I think both UhuRuto will make peace before it get bad. That is why those tweets were deleted.
Uhuru really cannot function without Ruto - I mean Matiangi can get stuff done but he is just a minister - and Raila can help with politics - but that is akin to kissing a skunk.
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Omollo am off to bed. Parting shot: parliamentary is the best - Kenya does not belong to Kikuyu and Kalenjin.
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Don't you think it's too early for that - when both houses are under tight control of Ruto allies (speaker,deputy speakers,majority leaders, deputy majority leaders, Chief Whips & deputy Chief Whips) except for National Speaker Muturi - I mean I know ODMers are salivating - but many in Jubilee don't want the party to stop - and Uhuru is basically alone in this lonely fight with DP - which even GEMA has refused to join. That is why he is frustrated but pretty soon he will have to kick Odinga out - and do the needful endorse Dr Ruto.
If he wants to impeach Ruto know - then he has what 3 or 4 mps in his corner and 40 luos mps in Raila corner. Hardly enough to even start a conversation - leave alone counting down an impeachment.
You mean impeachment ; nobody is getting 2/3. I mean not a single governor has been successfully impeached. Even where senate okayed it - governors found a way to tie that in court. What is Orengo who brought vote of no confidence on Ruto - and lost baldy. Any move to impeach Uhuru or Ruto will just make our MPs richer from all the bribes...but ultimately getting through 2/3 - that is like 220-230mps is not easy feat. And for senators - that even hard - you need more than 32 elected senators.
When I counted and included known turncoats I found Uhuru with support from Raila and massive bribes and NIS threats can get those numbers
Let us do a head count of senators pole pole.
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Federalism is the best. Parliamentary system in a very corrupt system like ours will bring serious instability. I mean already nearly all parliamentary systems are unstable....but to try it here where every MPIG can be bought by the highest bidder just make MPIGS ran the show. I don't kenyans are stupid enough to allow such systems...where MPIGS emasculate citizens.
We need current presidential systems with very strong federalism. I may disagree with Uhuru or whoever - but let him stay his 5yr tenure - without having to worry about noises from parliament.Who wants a sorry figure like that Teresa May of UK.
Omollo am off to bed. Parting shot: parliamentary is the best - Kenya does not belong to Kikuyu and Kalenjin.
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Kabsa plus Proportional Representation to end bribery
Omollo am off to bed. Parting shot: parliamentary is the best - Kenya does not belong to Kikuyu and Kalenjin.
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Single communities is rich. How many starving Tugen have eaten with him?
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Federalism and parliamentary with security of tenure. Party Leader is automatic PM - MPs don't elect him. Just to eliminate Kikuyu or Kalenjin or Somali tyranny of numbers.
Federalism is the best. Parliamentary system in a very corrupt system like ours will bring serious instability. I mean already nearly all parliamentary systems are unstable....but to try it here where every MPIG can be bought by the highest bidder just make MPIGS ran the show. I don't kenyans are stupid enough to allow such systems...where MPIGS emasculate citizens.
We need current presidential systems with very strong federalism. I may disagree with Uhuru or whoever - but let him stay his 5yr tenure - without having to worry about noises from parliament.Who wants a sorry figure like that Teresa May of UK.
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Whatever system you choose the "best" leaders will emerge...they could be any tribe.If you can win presidential race..pm is a walk in the park.