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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Higgins the genius on December 03, 2018, 05:18:08 PM

Title: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: Higgins the genius on December 03, 2018, 05:18:08 PM
We have to start from somewhere! Same way free primary started without proper infrastructure. Let Kenyans get innovative and help in decongesting the city.
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: RV Pundit on December 03, 2018, 05:27:29 PM
Yeap - policy experimentation should be more regular.
We have to start from somewhere! Same way free primary started without proper infrastructure. Let Kenyans get innovative and help in decongesting the city.
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: GeeMail on December 03, 2018, 07:01:43 PM
Madness. Sonko has the infrastructure to create a viable alternative but he didn't even try. What was hard about planning buses to ferry people from the dropping zones? That would have required hardly any additional resources, just a little thinking which may be hard. What stops Nairobi from creating safe dropping zones? The haphazard implementation will embolden matatus to go to court, defy the ban, bribe their way and so on until they are back to where it all began. Weather forecast for Nairobi next few days will bring utter chaos.
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: Higgins the genius on December 03, 2018, 07:24:34 PM
Let people innovate! Let’s see many proposals on how to sought out this problem
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: hk on December 04, 2018, 05:40:06 AM
Nairobi has bendy buses that should have been rolled out to ferry commuters to cbd. The economic impact of reducing the number of people going through downtown is going to affect economic activities in cbd.
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: GeeMail on December 04, 2018, 06:30:49 AM
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Mike-Sonko-suspends-matatu-CBD-ban/1056-4879896-ismwm0/index.html

Suspended already!
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: Kadudu on December 04, 2018, 10:45:43 AM
Stupid idea from the first place. You have to offer people an alternative to matatus before banning them from the CBD. Sonko should learn to think first before going into action.

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Mike-Sonko-suspends-matatu-CBD-ban/1056-4879896-ismwm0/index.html

Suspended already!
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: GeeMail on December 04, 2018, 01:21:49 PM
Looks like its a personality disorder. Pumwani, the sacking and reinstatement of officers, appointment of deputy, secret recordings, FaceBook live, Rescue team, bling bling.
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: veritas on December 04, 2018, 01:32:31 PM
What a moron. bloody muppets. did they even consider a matatu exit strategy? like offer commuters alternative means of transportation for the same fare?

are motorcycles banned? how much are motorcycles in uganda? there's a lot of them there i noticed.. anyone know where I can purchase motorcycles in bulk?
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: RV Pundit on December 04, 2018, 01:53:24 PM
They should now plan to ban all private vehicles in City Center and allow only public vehicles. That one didn't work. But at least it was tried.

Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 04, 2018, 03:58:34 PM
They should now plan to ban all private vehicles in City Center and allow only public vehicles. That one didn't work. But at least it was tried.



Banning is extreme.  They don't have to ban anything.  He should just make it a choice between costs.  Make it prohibitive to park your car anywhere in the CBD, while working on making public transport attractive or acceptable to folks who won't use it.
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: RV Pundit on December 04, 2018, 04:41:47 PM
Excellent idea.
Banning is extreme.  They don't have to ban anything.  He should just make it a choice between costs.  Make it prohibitive to park your car anywhere in the CBD, while working on making public transport attractive or acceptable to folks who won't use it.
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: Higgins the genius on December 04, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
They should now plan to ban all private vehicles in City Center and allow only public vehicles. That one didn't work. But at least it was tried.



Banning is extreme.  They don't have to ban anything.  He should just make it a choice between costs.  Make it prohibitive to park your car anywhere in the CBD, while working on making public transport attractive or acceptable to folks who won't use it.

He badly needs the parking revenue!
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: gout on December 05, 2018, 09:05:55 AM
I have never understood the bile against matatus given they are some of the few organic solutions that work in our shithole - cheap and available any time of the day and night. Matatus are paying around Kshs. 250k (around Kshs. 700 per day) per year for non existent parking in Nairobi. It is a good thing that makanga SOnko has implemented this moronic technocracy policy and it has failed spectacularly - though there are still morons insisting of 'better ways to implement it'!

The government morons once they are finished with fixing hospitals, schools, corruption and rogue police, can start issuing new PSV driver and makangas licenses only to graduates from our universities, NYS or the TIVETs - in 20 years we will have 70% professional matatu crew and probably 50% formalization. Even with our romanticized focus on TIVETs there is no course being offered on makangaism or hawking despite these being the biggest informal sector employers.
 
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: Kadudu on December 05, 2018, 12:39:32 PM
That is a good one. Imagine a PhD in Makangaism :D :D :D

I have never understood the bile against matatus given they are some of the few organic solutions that work in our shithole - cheap and available any time of the day and night. Matatus are paying around Kshs. 250k (around Kshs. 700 per day) per year for non existent parking in Nairobi. It is a good thing that makanga SOnko has implemented this moronic technocracy policy and it has failed spectacularly - though there are still morons insisting of 'better ways to implement it'!

The government morons once they are finished with fixing hospitals, schools, corruption and rogue police, can start issuing new PSV driver and makangas licenses only to graduates from our universities, NYS or the TIVETs - in 20 years we will have 70% professional matatu crew and probably 50% formalization. Even with our romanticized focus on TIVETs there is no course being offered on makangaism or hawking despite these being the biggest informal sector employers.
Title: Re: I support Sonko Matatu Ban
Post by: Georgesoros on December 06, 2018, 08:15:39 PM
They should now plan to ban all private vehicles in City Center and allow only public vehicles. That one didn't work. But at least it was tried.



Banning is extreme.  They don't have to ban anything.  He should just make it a choice between costs.  Make it prohibitive to park your car anywhere in the CBD, while working on making public transport attractive or acceptable to folks who won't use it.
Yo think someone has that kind of thinking?
Every vehicle that crosses into CBD should pay. You'll see a significant drop in traffic.