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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Pajero on July 03, 2018, 04:19:03 PM
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We Fought For PEV Victims Justice, They said we were fighting Ruto.
We Fought To Save Mau Forest, They said we were fighting Ruto.
We Fought land Grabbing, They said we were fighting Ruto.
We Fought Dead beat Dads, They Said we were fighting Ruto.
We Fought Theft Of Public Funds and Maize scandal, They said we were fighting Ruto.
We Fought to have Unity through the handshake, They say we are fighting Ruto.
We are fighting for Transparency and Accountability through Lifestyle Audit, They say we are fighting Ruto.
We are fighting Corruption in Government, They say we are fighting Ruto.
Which Evil is this called Ruto?”
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Actually the norm is you say first kitendawili.
Then one responds with tega.
After that then follows your tirades. :D :D :D
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keep up with poetry and riddles.Ruto remain the man to beat in 2022 and of course deputy if not co president now.
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Man to beat with only 1.2 million votes,ha ha wonders never sieze
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Uhuru brought 4m votes..Ruto brought 4m votes..to make 8m..which is why gov has been shared equally right from cabinet to parastals & agencies & ambassadors.In 2013 Uhuru tna had 85mps against Urp 78mps...uhuru enjoying the head of the ticket advantage.That good indicator of strength of each principals.zin 2017 i bet Ruto edged uhuru by bringing new votes esp in western kenya.Uhuru outside gema is a hard sell and without the anti kikyuyu sentiment in 2022 i expect Ruto to make mince meat of senile Raila and other pretenders in 2022.Ruto is likely to sweep bukusu, wanga and other sub tribes of luhya, he is definitely taking turkana and will flip coast even if raila pick joho as his running mate in another futile ran.Ruto will defintely sweep kamatusa+pastoral votes of northern kenya.He will struggle in gusii and that is where he need to focus on.
Man to beat with only 1.2 million votes,ha ha wonders never sieze
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Ati Ruto brought 4 million votes ,from where ,Please go slow on weed.
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Where do you think all non-gema votes that Uhuru got came from? Raila :). I have given you an example. In 2013 - URP had 78mps. TNA 85 Mps. Difference 7 Mps.
Ati Ruto brought 4 million votes ,from where ,Please go slow on weed.
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So you think having mps is equivalent to having popular vote,you cant equate mps to the popular vote,its like comparing mangos to oranges.we have cases where an mp is elected on a particular party ticket but the presidential vote goes to another party,ie Mpuri Aburi was elected on ODM but the presidential vote went to Uhuru,Washiali and co in western were elected on jubilee ticket but Raila bagged over 70% of presidential votes in their constituencies,Mvurya was re elected on jubilee but Raila got over 80% in kwale county,mwashetani the same.
And besides out of the 60 mps URP got in 2013,over close to 50 were from from Rift valley,meaning outside RV he just managed about 15 or 20 mps,confirming that he is just another hyped tribal war chief.
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The same is true for all parties - TNA/ODM - Most of const are roughly equal - except for a few protected ones - therefore counting the number of Mps each party had - when it was possible to distinguish URP from TNA is good indicator of party support. The outliers are in each party. TNA had nearly all it;s mps from GEMA.
In fact I just did quick "MOAS" to attempt to slice Jubilee votes - based on party & principal strengths - and difference is about 1.3M votes for Uhuru who was in the HEAD of the ticket - there was low turn out in URP zones - nearly 1M kalenjin didn't vote - half of MATUSA decided to vote for Raila and etc - those are votes Ruto will easily take if he was the head of ticket. Uhareuru is such a hard sell outside GEMA..but he started strong with nearly 4M gema votes.
In 2022 - I expect to see depressed turn out in GEMA - with reverse in kamatusa (RV) who will be batting for Ruto - therefore Ruto will be home & dry. If Raila was to ran as strong candidates (say he somehow keep NASA intact) - GEMA will turn out to vote the lesser evil Ruto.
COUNTY CODE COUNTY_NAME REGISTERED VOTERS UHURU KENYATTA Uhuru Ruto
01 MOMBASA 580,644 99,190 49595 49595
02 KWALE 281,102 43,694 8738.8 34955.2
03 KILIFI 508,425 49,575 9915 39660
04 TANA RIVER 118,338 40,115 8023 32092
05 LAMU 69,793 23,905 4781 19124
06 TAITA TAVETA 155,794 31,127 6225.4 24901.6
07 GARISSA 163,350 54,783 10956.6 43826.4
08 WAJIR 162,912 60,508 12101.6 48406.4
09 MANDERA 175,650 112,456 22491.2 89964.8
10 MARSABIT 141,730 92,696 18539.2 74156.8
11 ISIOLO 75,355 26,746 13373 13373
12 MERU 702,776 482,580 472928.4 9651.6
13 THARAKA - NITHI 213,157 162,529 159278.42 3250.58
14 EMBU 309,731 231,350 226723 4627
15 KITUI 474,563 64,652 32326 32326
16 MACHAKOS 620,363 82,629 41314.5 41314.5
17 MAKUENI 423,434 27,388 13694 13694
18 NYANDARUA 335,696 286,593 280861.14 5731.86
19 NYERI 457,197 389,410 381621.8 7788.2
20 KIRINYAGA 349,970 297,652 291698.96 5953.04
21 MURANG'A 587,222 498,248 488283.04 9964.96
22 KIAMBU 1,181,076 912,588 894336.24 18251.76
23 TURKANA 191,435 62,611 6261.1 56349.9
24 WEST POKOT 180,241 97,620 1952.4 95667.6
25 SAMBURU 82,794 31,746 634.92 31111.08
26 TRANS NZOIA 339,715 110,489 2209.78 108279.22
27 UASIN GISHU 450,159 265,704 26570.4 239133.6
28 ELGEYO/MARAKWET 180,679 138,634 2772.68 135861.32
29 NANDI 346,102 235,243 4704.86 230538.14
30 BARINGO 232,311 161,423 3228.46 158194.54
31 LAIKIPIA 246,693 177,772 124440.4 53331.6
32 NAKURU 949,971 639,297 351613.35 287683.65
33 NAROK 341,761 149,376 14937.6 134438.4
34 KAJIADO 411,267 186,481 93240.5 93240.5
35 KERICHO 375,691 272,974 5459.48 267514.52
36 BOMET 322,024 229,599 4591.98 225007.02
37 KAKAMEGA 743,929 63,399 6339.9 57059.1
38 VIHIGA 272,415 18,275 1827.5 16447.5
39 BUNGOMA 559,866 126,475 12647.5 113827.5
40 BUSIA 351,087 34,239 3423.9 30815.1
41 SIAYA 457,957 2,494 1247 1247
42 KISUMU 539,593 7,411 3705.5 3705.5
43 HOMA BAY 476,932 1,960 980 980
44 MIGORI 388,700 46,112 23056 23056
45 KISII 546,682 174,213 104527.8 69685.2
46 NYAMIRA 278,853 106,508 63904.8 42603.2
47 NAIROBI CITY 2,251,929 791,291 553903.7 237387.3
48 DIASPORA 4,393 1,504 752 752
NATIONAL TOTAL 19,611,423 8,203,290 4,866,739 3,336,525
NATIONAL %AGE 54.27% 8,203,264
So you think having mps is equivalent to having popular vote,you cant equate mps to the popular vote,its like comparing mangos to oranges.we have cases where an mp is elected on a particular party ticket but the presidential vote goes to another party,ie Mpuri Aburi was elected on ODM but the presidential vote went to Uhuru,Washiali and co in western were elected on jubilee ticket but Raila bagged over 70% of presidential votes in their constituencies,Mvurya was re elected on jubilee but Raila got over 80% in kwale county,mwashetani the same.
And besides out of the 60 mps URP got in 2013,over close to 50 were from from Rift valley,meaning outside RV he just managed about 15 or 20 mps,confirming that he is just another hyped tribal war chief.
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Ruto has not been tested and its wrong to imagine that he will take votes from Raila or rather Raila strong holds.Ruto has never ran for any presidential election.infact the most competitive political office Ruto has ran for is member of parliament.Whatever you are claiming is hypothetical and not factual.
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Ruto lead URP to win 78Mps, about 13 governorship & senators in 2013. Ruto led NOs to get 31%. And Ruto has been co-president with Uhuru for some years now. Ruto now control the majority of MPs - has parliamentary leadership save for Speaker Muturi as his henchmen. He has about 20 or more governors working with him. What more testing do you need. The only opinion poll of 2022 had him clear favourite.
Raila is going down and Ruto is replacing him as NON-GEMA leader. Everyone knows that except Luos.
Ruto has not been tested and its wrong to imagine that he will take votes from Raila or rather Raila strong holds.Ruto has never ran for any presidential election.infact the most competitive political office Ruto has ran for is member of parliament.Whatever you are claiming is hypothetical and not factual.
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Stop lying,Tangatanga squad leader had 62 elected mps in 2013,out of which 46 were from his kalenjin backyard translating to about 75%.Rest were from NE province where registered voters are still below 0.5 k.
so how does this make Ruto a national leader?Ruto still has more work to do,he should stick to his lane of tribal chief.
County Number Constituency Representative-elect Party
Mombasa
1 Changamwe
Omar Mwinyi ODM
2 Jomvu
Badi Twalib WDM-K
3 Kisauni
Rashid Bezimba ODM
4 Nyali
Hezron Awiti WDM-K
5 Likoni
Masoud Mwahima ODM
6 Mvita
Abdulswamad Shariff Nassir ODM
Kwale
7 Msambweni
Suleiman Dori Ramadhani ODM
8 Lunga Lunga
Khatib Abdallah Mwashetani FORD-KENYA
9 Matuga
Hassan Mohamed Mwanyoha ODM
10 Kinango
Gonzi Rai TNA
Kilifi
11 Kilifi North
Gideon Mung'aro
ODM
12 Kilifi South
Salid Idd Mustafa ODM
13 Kaloleni
Mwinga Gunga Chea KADU-ASIL
14 Rabai
William Kamoti ODM
15 Ganze
Peter Safari Shehe FPK
16 Malindi
Dan Kazungu Muzee ODM
17 Magarini
Harrison Kombe URP
Tana River
18 Garsen
Ibrahim Ahmed Sane URP
19 Galole
Hassan Dukicha UDF
20 Bura
Ali Wario TNA
Lamu
21 Lamu East
Ali Sharif Athman UDF
22 Lamu West
Julius Kariuki Ndegwa KNC
Taita-Taveta
23 Taveta
Naomi Shaaban TNA
24 Wundanyi
Thomas Mwadeghu ODM
25 Mwatate
Andrew Mwadime ODM
26 Voi
Jones Mlolwa ODM
Garissa
27 Dujis
Aden Bare Duale
URP
28 Balambala
Abdikadir Omar Aden ODM
29 Lagdera
Mohamed Muktar Shidiye TNA
30 Dadaab
Mohamed Dahir Duale ODM
31 Fafi
Elias Bare Shill URP
32 Ijara
Ahmed Ibrahim Abass ODM
Wajir
33 Wajir North
Ibrahim Abdi Saney ODM
34 Wajir East
Abass Sheikh Mohamed URP
35 Tarbaj
Mohamed Elmi ODM
36 Wajir West
Abdikadir Ore Ahmed ODM
37 Eldas
Adan Keynan Wehliye ODM
38 Wajir South
Diriye Abdullahi Mohamed ODM
Mandera
39 Mandera West
Mohamed Maalim URP
40 Banissa
Mohamed Abdi Haji Mohamed URP
41 Mandera North
Adan Mohamed Nooru URP
42 Mandera South
Mohamed Huka Adan URP
43 Mandera East
Abdulaziz Ali Farah URP
44 Lafey
Shaaban Ali Isaack URP
Marsabit
45 Moyale
Roba Sharu Duba UDF
46 North Horr
Francis Chachu Ganya ODM
47 Saku
Ali Rasso Dido URP
48 Laisamis
Joseph Lekuton ODM
Isiolo
49 Isiolo North
Joseph Samal Lomwa URP
50 Isiolo South
Abdullahi Jaldesa Banticha URP
Meru
51 Igembe South
Mithika Linturi TNA
52 Igembe Central
Kubai Kiringo ODM
53 Igembe North
Joseph Meruaki Muthari TNA
54 Tigania West
David Karithi TNA
55 Tigania East
Mpuru Aburi ODM
56 North Imenti
Abdul Rahim Dawood
APK
57 Buuri
Kinoti Gatobu Independent
58 Central Imenti
Gideon Mwiti APK
59 South Imenti
Kathuri Murungi TNA
Tharaka Nithi
60 Maara
Kareke Mbiuki TNA
61 Chuka/Igambang'ombe
Muthomi Njuki APK
62 Tharaka
Mburi Muiru URP
Embu
63 Manyatta
John Muchiri TNA
64 Runyenjes
Cecily Mbarire TNA
65 Mbeere South
Mutava Musyimi TNA
66 Mbeere North
Muriuki Njagagua APK
Kitui
67 Mwingi North
John Munure WDM-K
68 Mwingi West
Bernard Kitungi WDM-K
69 Mwingi Central
Joe Mutambu WDM-K
70 Kitui West
Francis Nyenze WDM-K
71 Kitui Rural
Charles Mutisya Nyamai WDM-K
72 Kitui Central
Makali Mulu WDM-K
73 Kitui East
Marcus Mutua Muluvi WDM-K
74 Kitui South
Rachael Nyamai NARC
Machakos
75 Masinga
Itwiku Mbai FORD-P
76 Yatta
Francis Mwangangi MP
77 Kangundo
Maweu Katatha TIP
78 Matungulu
Stephen Mule WDM-K
79 Kathiani
Robert Mbui WDM-K
80 Mavoko
Patrick Makau WDM-K
81 Machakos Town
Victor Munyaka CCU
82 Mwala
Vincent Musyoka CCU
Makueni
83 Mbooni
Michael Kisio Munyao WDM-K
84 Kilome
Regina Nthambi Muia WDM-K
85 Kaiti
Richard Makenga WDM-K
86 Makueni
Daniel Maanzo WDM-K
87 Kibwezi West
Patrick Mweu Musimba Independent
88 Kibwezi East
Jessica Mbalu WDM-K
Nyandarua
89 Kinangop
Stephen Kinyanjui TNA
90 Kipipiri
Samuel Gichigi APK
91 Ol Kalou
David Kiaraho TNA
92 Ol Jorok
JM Waiganjo TNA
93 Ndaragwa
Waweru Nderitu TNA
Nyeri
94 Tetu
Ndung’u Gethenji TNA
95 Kieni
James Mathenge Kanini Kega TNA
96 Mathira
Peter Weru NARC
97 Othaya
Mary Wambui TNA
98 Mukurweini
Kabando wa Kabando TNA
99 Nyeri Town
Esther Murugi TNA
Kirinyaga
100 Mwea
Peter Njuguna Gitau TNA
101 Gichugu
Ejidious Barua TNA
102 Ndia
Stephen Muriuki Ngari TNA
103 Kirinyaga Central
Joseph Gitari TNA
Murang'a
104 Kangema
Tirus Ngahu TNA
105 Mathioya
Clement Wambugu TNA
106 Kiharu
Irungu Kangata
TNA
107 Kigumo
Jamleck Kamau TNA
108 Maragwa
Peter Kamande TNA
109 Kandara
Alice Muthoni TNA
110 Gatanga
Humphrey Njuguna NARC
Kiambu
111 Gatundu South
Jossy Ngugi TNA
112 Gatundu North
Francis Kigo Njenga TNA
113 Juja
Francis Waititu TNA
114 Thika Town
Alice Wambui TNA
115 Ruiru
Esther Gathogo TNA
116 Githunguri
Njoroge Baiya TNA
117 Kiambu
Jude Njomo TNA
118 Kiambaa
Paul Koinange TNA
119 Kabete
Ferdinand Waititu
TNA
120 Kikuyu
Kimani Ichung'wah TNA
121 Limuru
John Kiragu TNA
122 Lari
Mburu Kahangara TNA
Turkana
123 Turkana North
Christopher Doye Nakuleu URP
124 Turkana West
Daniel Epuyo Nanok URP
125 Turkana Central
John Lodepe Nakara URP
126 Loima
Protus Ewesit Akujah ODM
127 Turkana South
James Lomenen Ekomwa TNA
128 Turkana East
Nicholas Ngikor Nixon FORD-KENYA
West Pokot
129 Kapenguria
Samuel Moroto Chumel
KANU
130 Sigor
Philip Lotiolo Ruto Rotino URP
131 Kacheliba
Mark Lomunokol URP
132 Pokot South
David Pkosing Losiakou URP
Samburu
133 Samburu West
Jonathan Lelelit URP
134 Samburu North
Musa Lentoimanga TNA
135 Samburu East
Raphael Letimalo TNA
Trans Nzoia
136 Kwanza
Ferdinand Wanyonyi FORD-KENYA
137 Endebess
Robert Pukose URP
138 Saboti
David Wafula Lazaro NFK
139 Kiminini
Chris Wamalwa FORD-KENYA
140 Cherangany
Wesley Korir
Independent
Uasin Gishu
141 Soy
Edwin Barchilei URP
142 Turbo
Elisha Busienei URP
143 Moiben
Sila Tiren URP
144 Ainabkoi
Samwel Chepkonga URP
145 Kapseret
Oscar Sudi URP
146 Kesses
James Bett URP
Elgeyo Marakwet
147 Marakwet East
David Kangogo Bowen URP
148 Marakwet West
William Kipkemoi Kisang URP
149 Keiyo North
James Kipkosgei Murgor URP
150 Keiyo South
Jackson Kiplagat Kiptanui URP
Nandi
151 Tinderet
Julius Kibiwott Melly URP
152 Aldai
Cornelly Serem URP
153 Nandi Hills
Alfred Kiptoo Keter URP
154 Chesumei
Elijah Kiptarbei Lagat URP
155 Emgwen
Alexander Kosgey URP
156 Mosop
Kirwa Stephen Bitok URP
Baringo
157 Tiaty
Asman Kamama URP
158 Baringo North
William Cheptumo URP
159 Baringo Central
Sammy Silas Komen Mwaita URP
160 Baringo South
Grace Jelagat Kipchoim
URP
161 Mogotio
Hellen Sambili KANU
162 Eldama Ravine
Moses K Lessonet URP
Laikipia
163 Laikipia West
Stephen Wachira Karani TNA
164 Laikipia East
Anthony Kimaru TNA
165 Laikipia North
Mathew Lekidime Lempurkel ODM
Nakuru
166 Molo
Jacob Macharia TNA
167 Njoro
Joseph Kiuna TNA
168 Naivasha
John Karanja Kihagi TNA
169 Gilgil
Samuel Nderitu TNA
170 Kuresoi South
Zakayo Cheruiyot URP
171 Kuresoi North
Moses Kipkemboi Cheboi KANU
172 Subukia
Nelson Gaichuhie TNA
173 Rongai
Raymond Moi KANU
174 Bahati
Kimani Ngunjiri TNA
175 Nakuru Town West
Samuel Arama ODM
176 Nakuru Town East
David Gikaria TNA
Narok
177 Kilgoris
Gideon Sitelu Konchella URP
178 Emurua Dikirr
Johana Ng’eno KNC
179 Narok North
Moitalel ole Kenta TNA
180 Narok East
Lemanken Aramat URP
181 Narok South
Korei ole Lemein URP
182 Narok West
Patrick Keturet Ole Ntutu URP
Kajiado
183 Kajiado North
Joseph Manje TNA
184 Kajiado Central
Joseph Nkaissery ODM
185 Kajiado East
Peris Tobiko TNA
186 Kajiado West
Moses ole Sakuda TNA
187 Kajiado South
Katoo Metito TNA
Kericho
188 Kipkelion East
Kirui Joseph Limo URP
189 Kipkelion West
Jackson Kipkorir Rop URP
190 Ainamoi
Benjamin Kipkirui Langat URP
191 Bureti
Leonard Kipkosgei Sang URP
192 Belgut
Eric Keter KANU
193 Sigowet/Soin
Justice Kipsang Kemei URP
Bomet
194 Sotik
Joyce Cherono Abonyo Laboso URP
195 Chepalungu
Paul Kipchirchir Bii URP
196 Bomet East
Benard Bett URP
197 Bomet Central
Ronald Kiprotich Tonui URP
198 Konoin
Sammy Cheruiyot Koech URP
Kakamega
199 Lugari
Ayub Savula Angatia UDF
200 Likuyani
Enoch Wamalwa Kibunguchy ODM
201 Malava
Injendi Malulu MDP
202 Lurambi
Raphael Milikau Otaalo ODM
203 Navakholo
Emmanuel Wangwe UDF
204 Mumias West
Johnson Manya Naicca ODM
205 Mumias East
Benjamin Washiali UDF
206 Matungu
David Were NFK
207 Butere
Andrew Toboso Anyanga ODM
208 Khwisero
Benjamin A. Andayi ODM
209 Shinyalu
Lisamula Silverse Anami ODM
210 Ikolomani
Benard Masaka Shinali UDF
Vihiga
211 Vihiga
Yusuf Kifuma Chanzu UDF
212 Sabatia
Alfred Agoi Masadia UDF
213 Hamisi
Charles Gumini Gimose FPK
214 Luanda
Christopher Omulele ODM
215 Emuhaya
Wilbur Otichilo ODM
Bungoma
216 Mt. Elgon
John Serut Independent
217 Sirisia
John Waluke Koyi ODM
218 Kabuchai
James Lusweti Mukwe FORD-KENYA
219 Bumula
Bonface Okhiya Otsiula NFK
220 Kanduyi
Wafula Wamunyinyi FORD-KENYA
221 Webuye East
Bernard Alfred Wekesa Sambu UDF
222 Webuye West
Daniel Wanyama Sitati NFK
223 Kimilili
Suleiman Murunga Kasuti FORD-KENYA
224 Tongaren
Simiyu Eseli FORD-KENYA
Busia
225 Teso North
Arthur Papa Odera URP
226 Teso South
Mary Emaase Otuch URP
227 Nambale
Sakwa John Bunyasi UDF
228 Matayos
Geoffrey Makokha Odanga ODM
229 Butula
Michael Aringo Onyura FPK
230 Funyula
Paul Otuoma ODM
231 Budalangi
Ababu Namwamba ODM
Siaya
232 Ugenya
David Ouma Ochieng' ODM
233 Ugunja
James Opiyo Wandayi ODM
234 Alego Usonga
George Washington Mallan Omondi WDM-K
235 Gem
Washington Jakoyo Midiwo ODM
236 Bondo
Gideon Ochanda Ogolla ODM
237 Rarieda
Nicolas O. Gumbo ODM
Kisumu
238 Kisumu East
Shakeel Shabbir
ODM
239 Kisumu West
Olago Aluoch FORD-KENYA
240 Kisumu Central
Ken Obura ODM
241 Seme
James Nyikal ODM
242 Nyando
Fred Outa ODM
243 Muhoroni
Onyango Oyoo PDP
244 Nyakach
Aduma Owuor ODM
Homa Bay
245 Kasipul
Joseph O. Magwanga ODM
246 Kabondo Kasipul
Silvance Osele Onyango ODM
247 Karachuonyo
James Gordon Kwanya Rege ODM
248 Rangwe
George Oner Ogalo ODM
249 Homa Bay Town
George Peter Opondo Kaluma ODM
250 Ndhiwa
Aghostinho Neto Oyugi ODM
251 Mbita
Millie Odhiambo ODM
252 Suba
Mbadi John Ng'ongo ODM
Migori
253 Rongo
Dalmas Otieno ODM
254 Awendo
Jared Odhiambo Opiyo FORD-P
255 Suna East
Junet Sheikh Nuh ODM
256 Suna West
Joseph Obiero Ndiege ODM
257 Uriri
John Owuor Onyango Kobado ODM
258 Nyatike
Peter Edick Omondi Anyanga ODM
259 Kuria West
Mathias Robi URP
260 Kuria East
Shadrack Manga KANU
Kisii
261 Bonchari
John Zebedeo Opore FORD-P
262 South Mugirango
Manson Nyamweya ODM
263 Bomachoge Borabu
Joel Onyancha TNA
264 Bobasi
Stephen Manoti FORD-P
265 Bomachoge Chache
Simon Ogari ODM
266 Nyaribari Masaba
Elijah Moindi NARC-Kenya
267 Nyaribari Chache
Chris Bichage ODM
268 Kitutu Chache North
Jimmy Angwenyi TNA
269 Kitutu Chache South
Richard Onyonka ODM
Nyamira
270 Kitutu Masaba
Timothy Bosire ODM
271 West Mugirango
James Gesami ODM
272 North Mugirango
Charles Geni ODM
273 Borabu
Ben Momanyi WDM-K
Nairobi
274 Westlands
Timothy Wanyonyi Wetangula
ODM
275 Dagoretti North
Paul Simba Arati ODM
276 Dagoretti South
Dennis Kariuki Waweru TNA
277 Langata
Joash Olum ODM
278 Kibra
Kenneth Okoth ODM
279 Roysambu
Waihenya Ndirangu TNA
280 Kasarani
John Njoroge Chege TNA
281 Ruaraka
Tom Kajwang ODM
282 Embakasi South
Irshadali Sumra
ODM
283 Embakasi North
James Mwangi Gakuya TNA
284 Embakasi Central
John Ndirangu TNA
285 Embakasi East
John Omondi ODM
286 Embakasi West
George Theuri TNA
287 Makadara
Benson Mutura TNA
288 Kamukunji
Yusuf Hassan Abdi TNA
289 Starehe
Maina Kamanda TNA
290 Mathare
George Mike Wanjohi TNA
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Pajero
Our friend Pundit is caught in a flux or what I call political yo-yoing. You may call it a seesawing situation. That may explain his foul mouth and love for ad hominem (vulgaris)
Until the Ruto-Uhuru relationship is clarified, you really can't get a straight and stable position from him. One one hand and deep inside, he knows that there is a rapture that may not heal. Then he sees the loss that he and the other of Ruto's camarilla will suffer and decides it is too high, seeing how deeply he is invested in a Ruto presidency. He therefore opts to carry on with the dream of Uhuru and Ruto patching up things.
Masinde made it clear several years ago when he stated that there is no Uhuruto. There is the Uhuru Kenyatta Regime. Just like we had the Jomo Kenyatta, Moi and Kibaki Regimes. GEMA wanted to keep Ruto relaxed and could suffer his looting and insubordination (through upstaging Uhuru and granting himself equal status to him) for as long as the 2017 elections loomed. When 2017 came to pass, Ruto's fate was sealed. Raila had a role albeit indirectly.
The Murage admission (which Pundit has predictably dismissed) is telling. According to GEMA, they rigged the election. By so doing, the role of Ruto had diminished in that he could no longer claim to be the GEMA lifeline. With that expired his second insurance policy.
The fact that Raila ran his most effective campaign ever and badly defeated Uhuru in the first round contributed. Here is what it further meant:
1. Even if GEMA supports Ruto in 2022, he has no chance of beating Raila. GEMA reckons that despite inflating voter numbers in Kiambu, Nakuru and other areas, Raila still managed to get more voters registered in NASA strongholds. So if GEMA could not beat Raila, they simply don't see how Ruto would do it. I.e. The tyranny of numbers dissolved before their own eyes like a punctured inflated balloon
2. Ruto's magic was tested in
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Pajero:
URP had 62 elected mps - 10 women reps and 3 nominated - against TNA's 72 elected (only 10 more than URP yet Uhuru was head of ticket) - 14 women reps - and 3 nominated.
URP when Ruto was just mere MP fighting ICC had 75 mps against TNA 89 and ODM 96 (Raila as Prime Minister & nusu mkate principal). Total TNA+URP were around 160 - now Ruto has added about 20-30 mps more -and come 2022 - he'll add 20 -30 more.
Meanwhile Raila party dropped from 96 Mps to 76mps(including women rep)--Raila lost 20 constituency from 2013- and every election he has been hammorraging from high of 2007 when ODM had more 50% of parliament. Next election ODM will lose about 20Mps (entire coast) - leaving him core Luo constituency and 1 or 2 mps here and there.
The National Alliance 72 14 3 89
United Republican Party 62 10 3 75
National Rainbow Coalition 3
Total 137 24 6 167
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I deal with facts. I do not invent alternative facts when reality is unfavorable. You make ridiculous claims that can only be made by a mad man. That MOAS was part of rigging :). And now you're also making false claims that Murathe admitted to rigging.
Yes fact is UhuRuto relationship is getting tested. This is not the first time. During the first 2 yrs 2013-2014 - Ruto had fights with some Uhuru civil servants - Iringo-Nancy-Kimemia - who had engineered ICC lies, coached witnesses and supplied Bensauda with one-sided intelligence briefs - and this time round - Ruto is facing the same group of folks - who are re-grouping and jostling for power. This is just normal day in politics. These likes of Kibicho-Nancy-Murathe - are political neophytes who couldn't not beat Sonko leave alone Ruto. Uhuru has had to cancel AU meeting to make peace with Ruto - and it just a matter of time before they are fired. Uhuru cannot risk his legacy & Jubilee for some few civil servants.If these lots were political type - I'd be worried - but all GEMA political leaders save for ODM Wambugu are on board Mv Ruto.
Facts are stubborn - and come d-day - as always you'll ran to toilet to cry yourself with pajero for some months - while I will be here.
Pajero
Our friend Pundit is caught in a flux or what I call political yo-yoing. You may call it a seesawing situation. That may explain his foul mouth and love for ad hominem (vulgaris)
Until the Ruto-Uhuru relationship is clarified, you really can't get a straight and stable position from him. One one hand and deep inside, he knows that there is a rapture that may not heal. Then he sees the loss that he and the other of Ruto's camarilla will suffer and decides it is too high, seeing how deeply he is invested in a Ruto presidency. He therefore opts to carry on with the dream of Uhuru and Ruto patching up things.
Masinde made it clear several years ago when he stated that there is no Uhuruto. There is the Uhuru Kenyatta Regime. Just like we had the Jomo Kenyatta, Moi and Kibaki Regimes. GEMA wanted to keep Ruto relaxed and could suffer his looting and insubordination (through upstaging Uhuru and granting himself equal status to him) for as long as the 2017 elections loomed. When 2017 came to pass, Ruto's fate was sealed. Raila had a role albeit indirectly.
The Murage admission (which Pundit has predictably dismissed) is telling. According to GEMA, they rigged the election. By so doing, the role of Ruto had diminished in that he could no longer claim to be the GEMA lifeline. With that expired his second insurance policy.
The fact that Raila ran his most effective campaign ever and badly defeated Uhuru in the first round contributed. Here is what it further meant:
1. Even if GEMA supports Ruto in 2022, he has no chance of beating Raila. GEMA reckons that despite inflating voter numbers in Kiambu, Nakuru and other areas, Raila still managed to get more voters registered in NASA strongholds. So if GEMA could not beat Raila, they simply don't see how Ruto would do it. I.e. The tyranny of numbers dissolved before their own eyes like a punctured inflated balloon
2. Ruto's magic was tested in
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From the man who invented tyranny
Deputy President William Ruto has been warned against expecting immense support from the Kikuyu community in 2022. Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/278524-william-ruto-expect-kikuyus-repay-2022-mutahi-ngunyi.html#278524
Political analyst Mutahi Ngunyi has poured cold water on Ruto’s overall credentials by strongly suggesting the Kikuyu community might not necessarily vote in the man from Sambut village, Kamagut, Uasin Gishu. Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/278524-william-ruto-expect-kikuyus-repay-2022-mutahi-ngunyi.html#278524
“Ruto should not approach 2022 as a ‘mali for mali’ affair which is a transaction not a relationship. Because Gema is exiting power the next 20 years, they want a relationship not a transaction. To tell the Gema community that a debt should be paid is to tell them that once a debt was paid, there will be no relationship,” one of Ngunyi's protoges said in the video seen by TUKO.co.ke Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/278524-william-ruto-expect-kikuyus-repay-2022-mutahi-ngunyi.html#278524
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Those reading know that I have - unlike you - substantiated, supported, justified, vindicated, validated, corroborated, verified, authenticated and confirmed each and every line I have written.
We are here now conducting this exchange because you have opted for matusi and yes claims you cannot back.
Let me borrow from your generalizations and say "fact is" the 2017 election was rigged. I can add that for Uhuru and his unpopular supporters to score 54% is a coincidence that can happen on planet Jupiter. I rely on FACTS when I quote the Supreme Court. How do you respond to that?
Well, subjectively. For 5 years you told us to bow down to Mutunga's judgment with the refrain "respect the Supreme Court". Was that because you respect courts or because you only respect them when they side with you? The answer came faster than I imagined. As soon as Maraga ruled against Uhuru, you went ballistic on the court and openly called for it to be abolished, among other things. Now that is a guy who gives double standards a very bad reputation.
Do you base your positions on facts?
Let us see: When PEV happened and it was clear that Ocampo might target the real killer - Kibaki - you supported the ICC. You even changed your avatar to Ocampo's photo. Then the ICC investigated further and indicated Ruto among others. You went ballistic. You launched a massive nonstop war on Ocampo and the ICC. The war was relentless. You only relented after Ruto and Uhuru seized the State of Kenya and deployed its might to derail the cases against them.
Some of the remarkable things in your devotion to facts:
1. When Uhuru was the enemy you could detail how he held meetings and fundraised for Mungiki and wonder why Ocampo was not getting him fast enough. But after he married Ruto you discounted that in a shameless about face. Sudenly the facts did not matter!
2. Before Ruto was indicted and charges confirmed against him, you recounted with unbridled and unrestrained enthusiasm characterized by Kalenjin nationalistic heroism how the "warriors" visited mayhem on Kikuyus. You presented them as an organization - a military organization with structures: AFTER Ruto's indictment, you made a 180 degree change. You denied any organization existed and instead described a leaderless auto acting body. In fact you presented the "warriors" as genetically endowed with a special mechanism that sets them to attack Kikuyus without any external command. Each unit (Warrior) acts autonomously. This is the same flapdoodle you have resorted to as another bout of ethnic violence looms in the Rift Valley
I can go on and on, especially if I were to look casually through the nipate .org and .com archives in a more detailed manner. I can tell you this: You Pundit have no relationship whatever with anything within a million miles of facts.
I explained the use of "obscure" sites by campaigns as focus groups. Instead of countering that with FACTS, you resort to invective. What a shame. Bure kabisa
I deal with facts. I do not invent alternative facts when reality is unfavorable. You make ridiculous claims that can only be made by a mad man. That MOAS was part of rigging :). And now you're also making false claims that Murathe admitted to rigging.
Yes fact is UhuRuto relationship is getting tested. This is not the first time. During the first 2 yrs 2013-2014 - Ruto had fights with some Uhuru civil servants - Iringo-Nancy-Kimemia - who had engineered ICC lies, coached witnesses and supplied Bensauda with one-sided intelligence briefs - and this time round - Ruto is facing the same group of folks - who are re-grouping and jostling for power. This is just normal day in politics. These likes of Kibicho-Nancy-Murathe - are political neophytes who couldn't not beat Sonko leave alone Ruto. Uhuru has had to cancel AU meeting to make peace with Ruto - and it just a matter of time before they are fired. Uhuru cannot risk his legacy & Jubilee for some few civil servants.If these lots were political type - I'd be worried - but all GEMA political leaders save for ODM Wambugu are on board Mv Ruto.
Facts are stubborn - and come d-day - as always you'll ran to toilet to cry yourself with pajero for some months - while I will be here.
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From the man who invented tyranny
Deputy President William Ruto has been warned against expecting immense support from the Kikuyu community in 2022. Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/278524-william-ruto-expect-kikuyus-repay-2022-mutahi-ngunyi.html#278524
Political analyst Mutahi Ngunyi has poured cold water on Ruto’s overall credentials by strongly suggesting the Kikuyu community might not necessarily vote in the man from Sambut village, Kamagut, Uasin Gishu. Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/278524-william-ruto-expect-kikuyus-repay-2022-mutahi-ngunyi.html#278524
“Ruto should not approach 2022 as a ‘mali for mali’ affair which is a transaction not a relationship. Because Gema is exiting power the next 20 years, they want a relationship not a transaction. To tell the Gema community that a debt should be paid is to tell them that once a debt was paid, there will be no relationship,” one of Ngunyi's protoges said in the video seen by TUKO.co.ke Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/278524-william-ruto-expect-kikuyus-repay-2022-mutahi-ngunyi.html#278524
Pajero
You are wasting good time substantiating. Pundit finding it hard to respond to facts will trash it as "fake news" and then swear that he only relies on facts.
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What there to respond to here. Mutahi ngunyi analysis? There is of course the bare minimum standards - and I don't do fake news & yellow online rags. This is not a new position from me. This has been my modus operandi for years - even when I supported Raila's ODM.
I know you guys are desperately scavenging for good news (or bad news on Ruto). You went as far as fishing Jumwa video of last year. Daily you're posting rubbish that ought not to make to this site. And I am supposed to respond or refute RUBBISH that your pick online and paste it here.Pajero and you will only succeed in making this site an eye-sore like toilet.com.
Pajero
You are wasting good time substantiating. Pundit finding it hard to respond to facts will trash it as "fake news" and then swear that he only relies on facts.
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You're incorrigible idiot. I do not change positions or facts based on politics of the day. There are times I support XYZ but when I find out "truth"- then I immediately change. I sway with facts. Yes fact is SCORK made a stupid decision - that waste our money - because Raila knew he got beat and he couldn't stand in the repeat. UhuRuto are still in power and so is everyone else. So far there have been I think zero lower elections overturned because of IEBC rigging - it been mainly a candidate did or didn't do this. Ocampo made a mess - and I explained why - and he is 6-NIL as we speak. I still insist Uhuru was involved with Mungiki. I explained how politician were involved in RV violence - they weren't the cog - the best they did was to oil the war machine that based on traditional warrior set up. I believe Ruto has looted or stole a lot the last few years. Etc etc. I am not invested in politics. I am just a dispassionate pundit of our politics. But yes I support UhuRuto & Jubilee now - just like I supported ODM previously -and Kibaki's NARC & DP before that.
Those reading know that I have - unlike you - substantiated, supported, justified, vindicated, validated, corroborated, verified, authenticated and confirmed each and every line I have written.
We are here now conducting this exchange because you have opted for matusi and yes claims you cannot back.
Let me borrow from your generalizations and say "fact is" the 2017 election was rigged. I can add that for Uhuru and his unpopular supporters to score 54% is a coincidence that can happen on planet Jupiter. I rely on FACTS when I quote the Supreme Court. How do you respond to that?
Well, subjectively. For 5 years you told us to bow down to Mutunga's judgment with the refrain "respect the Supreme Court". Was that because you respect courts or because you only respect them when they side with you? The answer came faster than I imagined. As soon as Maraga ruled against Uhuru, you went ballistic on the court and openly called for it to be abolished, among other things. Now that is a guy who gives double standards a very bad reputation.
Do you base your positions on facts?
Let us see: When PEV happened and it was clear that Ocampo might target the real killer - Kibaki - you supported the ICC. You even changed your avatar to Ocampo's photo. Then the ICC investigated further and indicated Ruto among others. You went ballistic. You launched a massive nonstop war on Ocampo and the ICC. The war was relentless. You only relented after Ruto and Uhuru seized the State of Kenya and deployed its might to derail the cases against them.
Some of the remarkable things in your devotion to facts:
1. When Uhuru was the enemy you could detail how he held meetings and fundraised for Mungiki and wonder why Ocampo was not getting him fast enough. But after he married Ruto you discounted that in a shameless about face. Sudenly the facts did not matter!
2. Before Ruto was indicted and charges confirmed against him, you recounted with unbridled and unrestrained enthusiasm characterized by Kalenjin nationalistic heroism how the "warriors" visited mayhem on Kikuyus. You presented them as an organization - a military organization with structures: AFTER Ruto's indictment, you made a 180 degree change. You denied any organization existed and instead described a leaderless auto acting body. In fact you presented the "warriors" as genetically endowed with a special mechanism that sets them to attack Kikuyus without any external command. Each unit (Warrior) acts autonomously. This is the same flapdoodle you have resorted to as another bout of ethnic violence looms in the Rift Valley
I can go on and on, especially if I were to look casually through the nipate .org and .com archives in a more detailed manner. I can tell you this: You Pundit have no relationship whatever with anything within a million miles of facts.
I explained the use of "obscure" sites by campaigns as focus groups. Instead of countering that with FACTS, you resort to invective. What a shame. Bure kabisa
I deal with facts. I do not invent alternative facts when reality is unfavorable. You make ridiculous claims that can only be made by a mad man. That MOAS was part of rigging :). And now you're also making false claims that Murathe admitted to rigging.
Yes fact is UhuRuto relationship is getting tested. This is not the first time. During the first 2 yrs 2013-2014 - Ruto had fights with some Uhuru civil servants - Iringo-Nancy-Kimemia - who had engineered ICC lies, coached witnesses and supplied Bensauda with one-sided intelligence briefs - and this time round - Ruto is facing the same group of folks - who are re-grouping and jostling for power. This is just normal day in politics. These likes of Kibicho-Nancy-Murathe - are political neophytes who couldn't not beat Sonko leave alone Ruto. Uhuru has had to cancel AU meeting to make peace with Ruto - and it just a matter of time before they are fired. Uhuru cannot risk his legacy & Jubilee for some few civil servants.If these lots were political type - I'd be worried - but all GEMA political leaders save for ODM Wambugu are on board Mv Ruto.
Facts are stubborn - and come d-day - as always you'll ran to toilet to cry yourself with pajero for some months - while I will be here.
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Let us avoid invective and focus on what you call facts.
When we criticized the 2013 judgement by Mutunga and company, we cited specifics. While there are dozens of scholarly papers that have without exception lambasted the decision, my own position was that the case was not fully canvassed. The exclusion of most of the evidence on a technicality would in my opinion qualify for "stupidity".
Now when you call the 2017 judgement "stupid", I note that your reason for it is well - for lack of any other word, allow me to borrow from your vast lexical register - stupid. Here is your reason in your own words:
The SCORK made a stupid decision because Raila knew he got beat and he couldn't stand in the repeat.
You say Railaknew he could not win against Uhuru in the repeat poll. You say it like it is a revelation of St. John. In reality it is not. Raila said he saw no chance of the IEBC declaring him a winner. He clarified that as long as the same illegalities that the Supreme Court had identified remained unchanged the only a fool would expect a different outcome.
Further to that, we saw Uhuru Kenyatta sign into law a raft of "amendments" to the election act, whose net effect was to legalize the said illegalities, thus allowing the same contraventions to be done, this time with the weight of the law behind them.
As if that was not enough, Uhuru went ahead to use the coercive powers of state to prevent the same Supreme Court convening to hear a case about the legality of the very election. When the high court ruled that the returning officers were in office illegally, his protege in the Court of Appeal convened an irregular sitting to grant a stay of execution, thus allowing the identified illegalities to proceed. Uhuru would later reward the convenor with the post of Attorney General. I may add that an explanation that the judges in the panel were way out of their jurisdiction and worked on a gazetted holiday in contravention of the gazetted regulations.
So far there have been I think zero lower elections overturned because of IEBC rigging
One can understand this by reading the minority decision by Njoki Ndung'u which the legal fraternity knows was written by Githu Muigai, Ngatia and Ahmednasir. She directed the courts on how to deal with the petitions. It shocked many legal minds then why she was addressing a question that had not been raised. Later events would prove her motives. I have not read the judgments in the individual cases nor can I say I agree with your postulation. I have no basis. But if it be true then one can say we have an unhealthy situation. Lower courts follow the majority binding opinion not the dissenting minority opinion. You should be aghast at that (if indeed you are committed to facts) not celebrate and highlight it as some jurisprudence to be proud of.
You're incorrigible idiot. I do not change positions or facts based on politics of the day. There are times I support XYZ but when I find out "truth"- then I immediately change. I sway with facts. Yes fact is SCORK made a stupid decision - that waste our money - because Raila knew he got beat and he couldn't stand in the repeat. UhuRuto are still in power and so is everyone else. So far there have been I think zero lower elections overturned because of IEBC rigging - it been mainly a candidate did or didn't do this. Ocampo made a mess - and I explained why - and he is 6-NIL as we speak. I still insist Uhuru was involved with Mungiki. I explained how politician were involved in RV violence - they weren't the cog - the best they did was to oil the war machine that based on traditional warrior set up. I believe Ruto has looted or stole a lot the last few years. Etc etc. I am not invested in politics. I am just a dispassionate pundit of our politics. But yes I support UhuRuto & Jubilee now - just like I supported ODM previously -and Kibaki's NARC & DP before that.
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While you were away nursing nasa defeat - we debated SCORK decision to DEATH.
Let us avoid invective and focus on what you call facts.
When we criticized the 2013 judgement by Mutunga and company, we cited specifics. While there are dozens of scholarly papers that have without exception lambasted the decision, my own position was that the case was not fully canvassed. The exclusion of most of the evidence on a technicality would in my opinion qualify for "stupidity".
Now when you call the 2017 judgement "stupid", I note that your reason for it is well - for lack of any other word, allow me to borrow from your vast lexical register - stupid. Here is your reason in your own words:
The SCORK made a stupid decision because Raila knew he got beat and he couldn't stand in the repeat.
You say Railaknew he could not win against Uhuru in the repeat poll. You say it like it is a revelation of St. John. In reality it is not. Raila said he saw no chance of the IEBC declaring him a winner. He clarified that as long as the same illegalities that the Supreme Court had identified remained unchanged the only a fool would expect a different outcome.
Further to that, we saw Uhuru Kenyatta sign into law a raft of "amendments" to the election act, whose net effect was to legalize the said illegalities, thus allowing the same contraventions to be done, this time with the weight of the law behind them.
As if that was not enough, Uhuru went ahead to use the coercive powers of state to prevent the same Supreme Court convening to hear a case about the legality of the very election. When the high court ruled that the returning officers were in office illegally, his protege in the Court of Appeal convened an irregular sitting to grant a stay of execution, thus allowing the identified illegalities to proceed. Uhuru would later reward the convenor with the post of Attorney General. I may add that an explanation that the judges in the panel were way out of their jurisdiction and worked on a gazetted holiday in contravention of the gazetted regulations.
So far there have been I think zero lower elections overturned because of IEBC rigging
One can understand this by reading the minority decision by Njoki Ndung'u which the legal fraternity knows was written by Githu Muigai, Ngatia and Ahmednasir. She directed the courts on how to deal with the petitions. It shocked many legal minds then why she was addressing a question that had not been raised. Later events would prove her motives. I have not read the judgments in the individual cases nor can I say I agree with your postulation. I have no basis. But if it be true then one can say we have an unhealthy situation. Lower courts follow the majority binding opinion not the dissenting minority opinion. You should be aghast at that (if indeed you are committed to facts) not celebrate and highlight it as some jurisprudence to be proud of.
You're incorrigible idiot. I do not change positions or facts based on politics of the day. There are times I support XYZ but when I find out "truth"- then I immediately change. I sway with facts. Yes fact is SCORK made a stupid decision - that waste our money - because Raila knew he got beat and he couldn't stand in the repeat. UhuRuto are still in power and so is everyone else. So far there have been I think zero lower elections overturned because of IEBC rigging - it been mainly a candidate did or didn't do this. Ocampo made a mess - and I explained why - and he is 6-NIL as we speak. I still insist Uhuru was involved with Mungiki. I explained how politician were involved in RV violence - they weren't the cog - the best they did was to oil the war machine that based on traditional warrior set up. I believe Ruto has looted or stole a lot the last few years. Etc etc. I am not invested in politics. I am just a dispassionate pundit of our politics. But yes I support UhuRuto & Jubilee now - just like I supported ODM previously -and Kibaki's NARC & DP before that.
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As you may have probably noticed, I am not discussing the SCORK decision. I am responding to specific issues you raised. I may mention judgments and the courts as part of that.
If you are referring to the heist by Uhuru Kenyatta why yes I took note of it. I clearly predicted how he would do it almost a year before. I posted it all here to your predictable denial and invective.
While you were away nursing nasa defeat - we debated SCORK decision to DEATH.
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Elections can be annualed for many reasons.
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Does that mean you have read "The election was not held in accordance with the constitution" and still feel there were other grounds in addition? Wonderful.. you are making progress. I will get and share the judgment.
Elections can be annualed for many reasons.