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Jubilee Constitution:
13.4: PENALTIES FOR DISCIPLINARY MEASURES
1. In the discharge of its disciplinary mandate the National Executive Committee may:
A. Suspend a member
B. Expel a member
C. Fine a member
D. Remove the whip from a member of committees of Parliament or County
Assemblies
E. Set aside a decision
F. Review its own decision
G. Substitute or uphold penalty imposed by any disciplinary organ
2. The decision of the NEC shall stand notwithstanding any right of appeal subject only to
Clause 13.4.3.
3. The decision of the NEC shall be final.
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In short, Jubilee hawako pamoja. :D :D :D :D
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In short, Jubilee hawako pamoja. :D :D :D :D
There is a telling article in The Star. It clearly spells out what happened. Basically Uhuru felt that the Kale MPs wanted him to take an oath that he will support Ruto for 2022. Uhuru is bound by The Ichaweri Oath never to vote for a non Kikuyu for the presidency. How can he violate that?
Here is The Star (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/07/03/why-uhuru-put-off-jubilee-pg-meeting_c1781094):
President Uhuru Kenyatta called off today's Jubilee Parliamentary Group meeting because he does not want to be drawn into discussing anything other than his Big Four agenda.
According to confidential sources, going ahead with the meeting would have created an opportunity for Jubilee leaders to canvas issues that the President has already made up his mind on and is committed to implementing.
"The Big Four and the fight against corruption is what the President wants to focus on. He wants to ensure that all energies and resources are mobilised towards realising the two main issues,” a high-ranking source within the party told the Star.
“He has already pronounced himself on those matters and vowed there is no turning back. Anyone raising other issues is on on his own,” the source added.
Yesterday Jubilee secretary general Raphael Tuju called a press conference to deny that the party had called a meeting with its MPs in the first place and accused the media of "creating its own meeting".
Read: No crisis to warrant Jubilee PG meeting, says Tuju
“I would like to assure members that there is nothing, even remotely close to a crisis in the party,” Tuju said.
According to multiple sources within Jubilee, some of the issues that MPs had wanted put on the agenda for discussion or to raise include the use of disrespectful or derogatory language towards Ruto.
Ruto’s allies also want the President to reveal the “full details” of the March 9 unity deal with Opposition leader Raila Odinga that has become a sore within the party.
They also wanted clarification of what is described as involvement by State House officials and the President’s relatives in activities that undermine the DP as well as an assurance by the President that he will still support the DP to succeed him after the end of his term in 2022.
Uhuru's succession as party leader is also causing jitters, the Star has established.
The truce, and Raila’s newfound status as a partner with the President in the Building Bridges Initiative, are seen as an obstacle to Ruto's succession path.
It has not been helped by conflicting signals from the the party’s Mt Kenya stronghold, where the President calls the shots. The party’s soldiers have been reading from different scripts, with some promising to stand by Ruto while others openly saying they will negotiate for the best deal in 2022.
Read: Ruto allies: These are the people against DP
AUDIT
There has been increasing discomfort within the party since the President announced that he and the Deputy President would lead all public servants in undergoing a lifestyle audit. Some MPs allied to the DP immediately jumped to the conclusion that the audit was targeting their man.
The DP seemed to lend credence to the perception when he joked in his address to a meeting of school heads in Mombasa two weeks ago that since the media had began auditing him, he expected it would move on to others. He said he was ready for the lifestyle audit but behind the scenes, his supporters were reading malice.
Two weeks ago, Senate Majority leader Kipchumba Murkomen claimed in a prime-time interview on Citizen TV that senior civil servants were using their offices to influence policy and divide Jubilee.
“There is an actual existence of people who work in the Office of the President who are busy supporting an agenda to divide the President and his deputy...Unfortunately, because these people have a responsibility on policy direction of government, we have a situation where things like policy on lifestyle audits are announced without the knowledge of anybody governing Jubilee,” Murkomen said.
His comments elicited mixed reactions within Jubilee.
Before Murkomen’s remarks, Kapseret MP Oscar Sudi had said in a public function that the audit should extend to the late President Jomo Kenyatta, in a jibe interpreted to send a message that not even the President was clean enough to audit others.
Yesterday Tuju contradicted Jubilee vice chairman David Murathe who announced last Friday that the PG would take place today and warned MPs against fighting the President and government policies.
“I'm able to confirm that there will no Jubilee PG meeting tomorrow (today) and any media reports to the contrary have no basis,” Tuju said.
Instead, Tuju said, the party secretariat has planned a three-day bonding retreat for its governors, MPs and senators next month.
Also read: Jubilee Party’s slide to collapse is now assured and irreversible course
The retreat to be attended by all the party’s leaders including county speakers is intended to forge unity and address indiscipline within its ranks following weeks of squabbling.
The party’s constitution requires the President, who is the party leader, to convene a PG at least twice a year for MPs to set the legislative agenda and align with other party positions.
However, MPs have previously complained that such forums end up being lecture sessions by the President rather than an opportunity to ventilate.
The last PG meeting in February was boycotted by tens of Jubilee MPs. Those who attended lamented that Uhuru had "lectured" them and warned of stern action against the no-shows. The MPs said they were browbeaten into who to vote for in the committees of Parliament.
Jubilee has 170 MPs — 164 elected and six nominated — but less than half are said to have attended the first post-2017 election PG meeting held at State House, Nairobi. Tuju disputed the figure at the time.
Yesterday Elgeyo Marakwet Senator and key Ruto ally Murkomen told the Star that it was within the President’s powers to convene such a PG as and when he deems necessary and convenient for the party.
He said, however, that the President had not formally convened the PG meeting, contrary to claims by a section of MPs.
Murkomen said that both the PG and the retreat were critical.
“A retreat is also good because it will enable members focus on the issues that are related to our manifesto,” he said, signalling the need for more time for members to freely express their views in view of the simmering discontent.
“You know a PG is usually brief, a retreat might even be better for more bonding,” the Majority leader said.
Kajiado North MP Joseph Manje concurred.
“In a PG, it is like members go to get directions on the party position. One or two people will speak and then the President will give directions. But a retreat will be a bonding session,” he said.
Nandi Senator Samson Cherargei noted that while there was no official communication on the meeting, it was timely to have it.
Cherargei, who is allied to Ruto in the party ranks, has previously warned of a scheme to use the lifestyle audit to block Ruto’s 2022 bid. He said the retreat would be a good idea to cement ties in Jubilee.
“As our SG Tuju has announced, we look forward to that retreat, hopefully it will happen as soon as possible. We need to assure our supporters that our house is intact and that meeting will help in doing so. Also the issues of the handshake between the President and Raila Odinga,” the outspoken senator told the Star.
Belgut MP Nelson Koech, another ally of the DP, said the retreat should be held as soon as possible to “diffuse unnecessary confusion which has given rise to all sorts of propaganda”.
“We know our friends in the Opposition are praying day and night for Jubilee to disintegrate. They think by causing all these confusion, they will frustrate the DP’s plans,” he said.
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signs are all clear that jubilee is back to URP and TNA wings
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Tuju has been reduced to putting lipstick on a pig.
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Remember he is a cabinet minister without portfolio. Working for Jubilee and using public coffers to pay him. :o
Tuju has been reduced to putting lipstick on a pig.
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Remember he is a cabinet minister without portfolio. Working for Jubilee and using public coffers to pay him.
Uhuru Kenyatta had better get an Anti-Hubris adviser to identify instances of extreme arrogance and have him avoid or change them. This kind of arrorance never fails to bring down a politician.
In the last few years it has brought down:
1. South Korea - Park Geun-hye - President of South Korea
2. Malaysia - Najib Abdul Razak
3. Indonesia: Abdurrahman Wahid
4. Lithuania: Rolandas Paksas
5. Paraguay: Fernando Lugo
6. Brazil : Dilma Rousseff
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Remember he is a cabinet minister without portfolio. Working for Jubilee and using public coffers to pay him.
Uhuru Kenyatta had better get an Anti-Hubris adviser to identify instances of extreme arrogance and have him avoid or change them. This kind of arrorance never fails to bring down a politician.
In the last few years it has brought down:
1. South Korea - Park Geun-hye - President of South Korea
2. Malaysia - Najib Abdul Razak
3. Indonesia: Abdurrahman Wahid
4. Lithuania: Rolandas Paksas
5. Paraguay: Fernando Lugo
6. Brazil : Dilma Rousseff
Ukabila has been a pretty effective break on a similar fate for the Kenyan criminal elite.
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uhuru is calling for transparency and all that in lifestyle audit..while he is afraid of facing friendly fire.He is going to need lot more shock absorbers going forward.He has allowed political neophytes to drive his agenda and hell lose very badly.Now he is afraid of meeting mps when things are just getting started.One yr from now he will be glad if a third of jubilee mps attends his meetings.
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uhuru is calling for transparency and all that in lifestyle audit..while he is afraid of facing friendly fire.He is going to need lot more shock absorbers going forward.He has allowed political neophytes to drive his agenda and hell lose very badly.Now he is afraid of meeting mps when things are just getting started.One yr from now he will be glad if a third of jubilee mps attends his meetings.
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Wake me up. Raila knocked up and got pregnant..ruto chased out of matrimonial bed without alimony..next ]
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Calling off the meeting was a smart move. Jubilee is was Ruto's brainchild and vehicle for 2022 and Ouru did not not need it beyond 2017. The last time I checked its 2018. Why would Ouru care if Jubilee breaks up or not-the sooner the better.
uhuru is calling for transparency and all that in lifestyle audit..while he is afraid of facing friendly fire.He is going to need lot more shock absorbers going forward.He has allowed political neophytes to drive his agenda and hell lose very badly.Now he is afraid of meeting mps when things are just getting started.One yr from now he will be glad if a third of jubilee mps attends his meetings.
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I hope he aint stupid like Raila who killed nasa.You cannot efficiently and effectively govern without parliamentary majority on you call and beck.There are many things Uhuru takes for granted coz Ruto has been doing all the donkey work while he slept.Uhuru has attempted to sober up, ran on his toes and it just bad optics to call of PG.Ruto control parliament for a reason.There is nothing executive can do with hostile parliament and mercurial judiciary.To make matters worse if he fell out with Ruto..hell discover there ruto men everywhere.Uhuru is getting bad advice.Very bad advice.Mama ngina may again have to step up to rescue his Boy
Calling off the meeting was a smart move. Jubilee is was Ruto's brainchild and vehicle for 2022 and Ouru did not not need it beyond 2017. The last time I checked its 2018. Why would Ouru care if Jubilee breaks up or not-the sooner the better.
uhuru is calling for transparency and all that in lifestyle audit..while he is afraid of facing friendly fire.He is going to need lot more shock absorbers going forward.He has allowed political neophytes to drive his agenda and hell lose very badly.Now he is afraid of meeting mps when things are just getting started.One yr from now he will be glad if a third of jubilee mps attends his meetings.
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You dont dump your beautiful young bride for post menaupasal have been..who like rigo manduli won a beauty contest in 2002..16yrs ago.Raila outside Luo nyanza is dead
uhuru is calling for transparency and all that in lifestyle audit..while he is afraid of facing friendly fire.He is going to need lot more shock absorbers going forward.He has allowed political neophytes to drive his agenda and hell lose very badly.Now he is afraid of meeting mps when things are just getting started.One yr from now he will be glad if a third of jubilee mps attends his meetings.
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Wake me up. Raila knocked up and got pregnant..ruto chased out of matrimonial bed without alimony..next ]
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Raila made some mistake ahead of and after the elections but "breaking NASA" is not one of them.
I still believe Hassan Omar Sarai should have been told off when he objected to joint primaries. ODM should have put its foot down and demanded joint nominations or the highway. That was even more urgent when Jubilee used openly draconian tactics to force through nominations for all.
In the end Hassan turned out to be what we always said he was: Malaya ya Jubilee.
Getting rid of Wetangula was really locking the stable when the horse was half way out. Wetangula has a secret MoU with Ruto as has Mudavadi. Kalonzo remained non committal. One of the benefits of the handshake was granting Raila access to intelligence that proved his suspicions. Since Wetangula planned to monetize his position as Minority leader - not just against Raila but against Uhuru as well - I see nothing wrong in meeting him half way before he arrives at the planned scene of crime. I think for once Raila took decisive preemptive action that neutralized an enemy.
As for Mudavadi: He is basically an old woman's cunt - good for passing water and nothing else (excuse my French). As long as Ida is around, Raila will continue to rescue him from obscurity. I wonder why none of the rescuers have never seen just how he brings down everyone who associates with him. He has brought down Raila twice (2007 & 2017); Uhuru once (2002). He basically was given the presidency twice - 2002 by Moi and 2013 by Kibaki but could not exploit the tools of state to even come second. So He really brought nothing to NASA except a presence.
Kalonzo brought votes.
I hope he aint stupid like Raila who killed nasa.You cannot efficiently and effectively govern without parliamentary majority on you call and beck.There are many things Uhuru takes for granted coz Ruto has been doing all the donkey work while he slept.Uhuru has attempted to sober up, ran on his toes and it just bad optics to call of PG.Ruto control parliament for a reason.There is nothing executive can do with hostile parliament and mercurial judiciary.To make matters worse if he fell out with Ruto..hell discover there ruto men everywhere.Uhuru is getting bad advice.Very bad advice.Mama ngina may again have to step up to rescue his BoyCalling off the meeting was a smart move. Jubilee is was Ruto's brainchild and vehicle for 2022 and Ouru did not not need it beyond 2017. The last time I checked its 2018. Why would Ouru care if Jubilee breaks up or not-the sooner the better.
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You dont dump your beautiful young bride for post menaupasal have been..who like rigo manduli won a beauty contest in 2002..16yrs ago.Raila outside Luo nyanza is dead
In terms of support outside their own constituency, here is how I rate them with 1 as the best
1. Raila Odinga
2. William Ruto
3. Uhuru Kenyatta
4. Kalonzo Musyoka
5. Charity Ngilu
6. Governor Joho
7. Mike Sonko
8. Peter Kenneth
9. Musalia Mudavadi
10. Wetangula
The "menopausal" claim is untested. I think it is a recurring derogatory statement. Pundit and others said this here throughout the first term of Uhuru. It was interchanged with admonishments to retire.
Let's do this Pundit: Since you have claimed that Raila is dead and buried in 2013 and 2017 making it 10 years of speculation) and then watched your candidate resort to stealing to avoid accepting defeat from a fossil, we wait for the actual "menopause" rather than speculate over it for another 5 years. You claimed that you are driven by facts and not speculation. Walk the talk, not so?
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Bad workman always blame his tools.If there something Raila can learn from Ruto is how to sema na kutenda.Be dependable.If you commit to do something do it.Ruto managed to unite kalenjin..a tribe like luhya and now has added more small tribes to make huge coalition by being honest leader who does the hard work of leadership.If Ruto promises tp do something considered it done..be it harambee or etc.Those are rare attributes in politics where treachery and lies are the norm..Raila like Uhuru is very lazy.Ruto like Moi before he went senile actually cares about relationship.His son Gideon is so terrible you have to pity Moi.MaDVD is stupid and lazy.Kalonzo is too conceited.
Raila made some mistake ahead of and after the elections but "breaking NASA" is not one of them.
I still believe Hassan Omar Sarai should have been told off when he objected to joint primaries. ODM should have put its foot down and demanded joint nominations or the highway. That was even more urgent when Jubilee used openly draconian tactics to force through nominations for all.
In the end Hassan turned out to be what we always said he was: Malaya ya Jubilee.
Getting rid of Wetangula was really locking the stable when the horse was half way out. Wetangula has a secret MoU with Ruto as has Mudavadi. Kalonzo remained non committal. One of the benefits of the handshake was granting Raila access to intelligence that proved his suspicions. Since Wetangula planned to monetize his position as Minority leader - not just against Raila but against Uhuru as well - I see nothing wrong in meeting him half way before he arrives at the planned scene of crime. I think for once Raila took decisive preemptive action that neutralized an enemy.
As for Mudavadi: He is basically an old woman's cunt - good for passing water and nothing else (excuse my French). As long as Ida is around, Raila will continue to rescue him from obscurity. I wonder why none of the rescuers have never seen just how he brings down everyone who associates with him. He has brought down Raila twice (2007 & 2017); Uhuru once (2002). He basically was given the presidency twice - 2002 by Moi and 2013 by Kibaki but could not exploit the tools of state to even come second. So He really brought nothing to NASA except a presence.
Kalonzo brought votes.
I hope he aint stupid like Raila who killed nasa.You cannot efficiently and effectively govern without parliamentary majority on you call and beck.There are many things Uhuru takes for granted coz Ruto has been doing all the donkey work while he slept.Uhuru has attempted to sober up, ran on his toes and it just bad optics to call of PG.Ruto control parliament for a reason.There is nothing executive can do with hostile parliament and mercurial judiciary.To make matters worse if he fell out with Ruto..hell discover there ruto men everywhere.Uhuru is getting bad advice.Very bad advice.Mama ngina may again have to step up to rescue his BoyCalling off the meeting was a smart move. Jubilee is was Ruto's brainchild and vehicle for 2022 and Ouru did not not need it beyond 2017. The last time I checked its 2018. Why would Ouru care if Jubilee breaks up or not-the sooner the better.
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Raila has zero mps in neighberhood gusii and kuria.Zero mp in Bukusu.1 mp in NEP or about the entire cushiteland.1 mp in entire maaland to samburu.He had 3 turkana mps who probably changed.His next bastion outside Luo is coast and he has basically lost all save for a few..1 in kilifi and maybe 2 in msa...all hanging thinking joho will inherit raila..stupidity 101.Raila is kaput.ODM is now Luo party with one gusii,masai,etc tribes.He like gema is trying to ran from previous commitment only to hit deadwall called william ruto
You dont dump your beautiful young bride for post menaupasal have been..who like rigo manduli won a beauty contest in 2002..16yrs ago.Raila outside Luo nyanza is dead
In terms of support outside their own constituency, here is how I rate them with 1 as the best
1. Raila Odinga
2. William Ruto
3. Uhuru Kenyatta
4. Kalonzo Musyoka
5. Charity Ngilu
6. Governor Joho
7. Mike Sonko
8. Peter Kenneth
9. Musalia Mudavadi
10. Wetangula
The "menopausal" claim is untested. I think it is a recurring derogatory statement. Pundit and others said this here throughout the first term of Uhuru. It was interchanged with admonishments to retire.
Let's do this Pundit: Since you have claimed that Raila is dead and buried in 2013 and 2017 making it 10 years of speculation) and then watched your candidate resort to stealing to avoid accepting defeat from a fossil, we wait for the actual "menopause" rather than speculate over it for another 5 years. You claimed that you are driven by facts and not speculation. Walk the talk, not so?
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Let me say we are operating on two different worlds: You believe the election was free fair and reflective of the wishes of the people. On the other hand I share the opinion of the majority at the Supreme Court who ruled that "the elections held on August 8, were not conducted in accordance with the Constitution and the applicable law. The results are therefore invalid, null and void"(ipsissima verba). Note that the ruling does not specify "Presidential Election" but refers to "the election"
As a consequence I have never seen the need to hold a debate over fake results reflecting the wishes of an individual a.k.a Davis Chirchir. Should we discuss why most of the pro Jubilee candidates got 54% or 51% or 41% without exception (in areas they had determined to rig and which were on the list of "Trouble Spots" issued by Nkaissery and Kaparo)???
If you have ever been in competitive fishing; You really can't discuss or debate it with a guy who openly cheated. It is simply not interesting at all.
Kisii was an experiment for Jubilee. They wanted to wipe out ODM and NASA to justify the "It's Only Luos" narrative. That is one of the most shameful chapters of our Nation's history and you are getting on the wrong side of it. They promoted briefcase parties because they knew there would be fire if they make Jubilee candidates win.
ODM has never been stronger in Kuria like 2017. With Machage out, his divisive politics replaced, ODM was sure of victory. But again Uhuru targeted such far flung areas to steal top up votes.
Save this because when Democracy finally returns to Kenya, these will be some of the established facts. Not Chirchir's 54%
Raila has zero mps in neighberhood gusii and kuria.Zero mp in Bukusu.1 mp in NEP or about the entire cushiteland.1 mp in entire maaland to samburu.He had 3 turkana mps who probably changed.His next bastion outside Luo is coast and he has basically lost all save for a few..1 in kilifi and maybe 2 in msa...all hanging thinking joho will inherit raila..stupidity 101.Raila is kaput.ODM is now Luo party with one gusii,masai,etc tribes.He like gema is trying to ran from previous commitment only to hit deadwall called william ruto
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Chirchir is not that powerful.You sound stupid.Kenya is far from holding electronic elections.We are still very manual.Chirchir cannot electronically rig manually cast and counted votes.
Let me say we are operating on two different worlds: You believe the election was free fair and reflective of the wishes of the people. On the other hand I share the opinion of the majority at the Supreme Court who ruled that "the elections held on August 8, were not conducted in accordance with the Constitution and the applicable law. The results are therefore invalid, null and void"(ipsissima verba). Note that the ruling does not specify "Presidential Election" but refers to "the election"
As a consequence I have never seen the need to hold a debate over fake results reflecting the wishes of an individual a.k.a Davis Chirchir. Should we discuss why most of the pro Jubilee candidates got 54% or 51% or 41% without exception (in areas they had determined to rig and which were on the list of "Trouble Spots" issued by Nkaissery and Kaparo)???
If you have ever been in competitive fishing; You really can't discuss or debate it with a guy who openly cheated. It is simply not interesting at all.
Kisii was an experiment for Jubilee. They wanted to wipe out ODM and NASA to justify the "It's Only Luos" narrative. That is one of the most shameful chapters of our Nation's history and you are getting on the wrong side of it. They promoted briefcase parties because they knew there would be fire if they make Jubilee candidates win.
ODM has never been stronger in Kuria like 2017. With Machage out, his divisive politics replaced, ODM was sure of victory. But again Uhuru targeted such far flung areas to steal top up votes.
Save this because when Democracy finally returns to Kenya, these will be some of the established facts. Not Chirchir's 54%
Raila has zero mps in neighberhood gusii and kuria.Zero mp in Bukusu.1 mp in NEP or about the entire cushiteland.1 mp in entire maaland to samburu.He had 3 turkana mps who probably changed.His next bastion outside Luo is coast and he has basically lost all save for a few..1 in kilifi and maybe 2 in msa...all hanging thinking joho will inherit raila..stupidity 101.Raila is kaput.ODM is now Luo party with one gusii,masai,etc tribes.He like gema is trying to ran from previous commitment only to hit deadwall called william ruto
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Chirchir is not that powerful.You sound stupid.Kenya is far from holding electronic elections.We are still very manual.Chirchir cannot electronically rig manually cast and counted votes
You are trying to be willfully ignorant in a bid to fudge and confuse well established truths.
It is clear you still have not read the Court of Appeal Judgement that clearly set out the basic requirements of an election in Kenya. Hence your attempt to deny that hacking or irregular access to the IEBC computers during elections can allow any individual to rig elections. It was clearly documented that Chirchir gained access to the computers and had full privilges to alter and delete results as well upload software, documents etc. We also know from Chebukati that an unlawful account was created in his name with adminstrative privilges whichb deleted thousands of forms especialy those favoring Raila and NASA. Today Murathe has admited that they rigged the election.
Now if I am stupid for basing my position on evidence and you are clever and wise for peddling debunked propaganda, then I would like to not only remain stupid but get even more stupid.
Here is Chebukati's Memo:
(https://businesstoday.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Memo-768x1024.jpg)(https://businesstoday.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Memo2.jpg)(https://businesstoday.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Memo3-768x1024.jpg)
Here is Murathe admitting to rigging:
https://venasnews.co.ke/2018/07/03/ruto-delivered-nothingwe-owe-him-nothingmurathe/
Finally before you return read this judgment in Maina Wa Kiai & 2 Others vs the IEBC:
[pdf]http://www.katibainstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/MAINA-KIAI-JUDGMENT.pdf[/pdf]
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Trust MoAS that predicted election with near perfection months before it was dine if you distrust iebc
Chirchir is not that powerful.You sound stupid.Kenya is far from holding electronic elections.We are still very manual.Chirchir cannot electronically rig manually cast and counted votes
You are trying to be willfully ignorant in a bid to fudge and confuse well established truths.
It is clear you still have not read the Court of Appeal Judgement that clearly set out the basic requirements of an election in Kenya. Hence your attempt to deny that hacking or irregular access to the IEBC computers during elections can allow any individual to rig elections. It was clearly documented that Chirchir gained access to the computers and had full privilges to alter and delete results as well upload software, documents etc. We also know from Chebukati that an unlawful account was created in his name with adminstrative privilges whichb deleted thousands of forms especialy those favoring Raila and NASA. Today Murathe has admited that they rigged the election.
Now if I am stupid for basing my position on evidence and you are clever and wise for peddling debunked propaganda, then I would like to not only remain stupid but get even more stupid.
Here is Chebukati's Memo:
(https://businesstoday.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Memo-768x1024.jpg)(https://businesstoday.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Memo2.jpg)(https://businesstoday.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Memo3-768x1024.jpg)
Here is Murathe admitting to rigging:
https://venasnews.co.ke/2018/07/03/ruto-delivered-nothingwe-owe-him-nothingmurathe/
Finally before you return read this judgment in Maina Wa Kiai & 2 Others vs the IEBC:
[pdf]http://www.katibainstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/MAINA-KIAI-JUDGMENT.pdf[/pdf]
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Trust MoAS that predicted election with near perfection months before it was dine if you distrust iebc
Why didn't Chirchir just do it the Azeri way by releasing the "results" to everyone a month before. I know he revealed them to you which formed the basis of your MOASS
Oops: Azerbaijan released election results before voting had even started (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/09/oops-azerbaijan-released-election-results-before-voting-had-even-started/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ace74acc0520)
Update, Oct. 28: This post has been updated to reflect the government of Azerbaijan's official statements.
Azerbaijan's big presidential election, held on Wednesday, was anticipated to be neither free nor fair. President Ilham Aliyev, who took over from his father 10 years ago, has stepped up intimidation of activists and journalists. Rights groups are complaining about free speech restrictions and one-sided state media coverage. The BBC's headline for its story on the election reads "The Pre-Determined President." So expectations were pretty low.
Even still, one expects a certain ritual in these sorts of authoritarian elections, a fealty to at least the appearance of democracy, if not democracy itself. So it was a bit awkward when Azerbaijan's election authorities released vote results – a full day before voting had even started.
The vote counts – spoiler alert: Aliyev was shown as heading toward a landslide – were pushed out on an official smartphone app run by the Central Election Commission. It showed Aliyev as "winning" 72.76 percent of the votes, although with only about 15,000 votes cast, as Azerbaijani officials later noted as part of their defense that the results had been partial and a test run. That share is on track with his official vote counts in previous elections: he won ("won"?) 76.84 percent of the vote in 2003 and 87 percent in 2008.
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The Azerbaijani Central Election Commission sent out these vote totals to its official smartphone app before voting started. (meydan.tv)
In second place was opposition candidate Jamil Hasanli with 7.4 percent of the vote. Hasanli had recently appealed to the Central Election Commission for paid airtime on state TV, arguing that Aliyev gets heavy airtime and the opposition does not. He was denied.
The data were quickly recalled. Initially, the official story was that the app's developer had mistakenly sent out the 2008 election results as part of a test. But that's a bit flimsy, given that the released totals show the candidates from this week, not from 2008.
Government officials later defended the release, which they noted shows fewer than 15,000 votes in a country of 9 million. They said it had been only a trial run, posted in error, showing hypothetical results from one small electoral district.
You might call this a sort of Kinsley gaffe on a national scale. (A Kinsley gaffe, named for journalist Michael Kinsley, is when a politician gets in trouble for saying something that's widely known as true but that he isn't supposed to say.) There's supposed to be a certain ritual to an election like Azerbaijan's: demonstrations are put down, reporters are harassed, opposition candidates are whittled down, supporters are ushered to the polls and then Aliyev's sweeping victory is announced. They got the order wrong here.
As of this writing, Azerbaijan's election authorities say they've counted 80 percent of the ballots, with Aliyev winning just under 85 percent of the vote so far. He's been officially reelected.
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yeah we decided to release the results months before..in some obscure site ...sometimes you fools need to listen to yourself
Trust MoAS that predicted election with near perfection months before it was dine if you distrust iebc
Why didn't Chirchir just do it the Azeri way by releasing the "results" to everyone a month before. I know he revealed them to you which formed the basis of your MOASS
Oops: Azerbaijan released election results before voting had even started (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/09/oops-azerbaijan-released-election-results-before-voting-had-even-started/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ace74acc0520)
Update, Oct. 28: This post has been updated to reflect the government of Azerbaijan's official statements.
Azerbaijan's big presidential election, held on Wednesday, was anticipated to be neither free nor fair. President Ilham Aliyev, who took over from his father 10 years ago, has stepped up intimidation of activists and journalists. Rights groups are complaining about free speech restrictions and one-sided state media coverage. The BBC's headline for its story on the election reads "The Pre-Determined President." So expectations were pretty low.
Even still, one expects a certain ritual in these sorts of authoritarian elections, a fealty to at least the appearance of democracy, if not democracy itself. So it was a bit awkward when Azerbaijan's election authorities released vote results – a full day before voting had even started.
The vote counts – spoiler alert: Aliyev was shown as heading toward a landslide – were pushed out on an official smartphone app run by the Central Election Commission. It showed Aliyev as "winning" 72.76 percent of the votes, although with only about 15,000 votes cast, as Azerbaijani officials later noted as part of their defense that the results had been partial and a test run. That share is on track with his official vote counts in previous elections: he won ("won"?) 76.84 percent of the vote in 2003 and 87 percent in 2008.
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The Azerbaijani Central Election Commission sent out these vote totals to its official smartphone app before voting started. (meydan.tv)
In second place was opposition candidate Jamil Hasanli with 7.4 percent of the vote. Hasanli had recently appealed to the Central Election Commission for paid airtime on state TV, arguing that Aliyev gets heavy airtime and the opposition does not. He was denied.
The data were quickly recalled. Initially, the official story was that the app's developer had mistakenly sent out the 2008 election results as part of a test. But that's a bit flimsy, given that the released totals show the candidates from this week, not from 2008.
Government officials later defended the release, which they noted shows fewer than 15,000 votes in a country of 9 million. They said it had been only a trial run, posted in error, showing hypothetical results from one small electoral district.
You might call this a sort of Kinsley gaffe on a national scale. (A Kinsley gaffe, named for journalist Michael Kinsley, is when a politician gets in trouble for saying something that's widely known as true but that he isn't supposed to say.) There's supposed to be a certain ritual to an election like Azerbaijan's: demonstrations are put down, reporters are harassed, opposition candidates are whittled down, supporters are ushered to the polls and then Aliyev's sweeping victory is announced. They got the order wrong here.
As of this writing, Azerbaijan's election authorities say they've counted 80 percent of the ballots, with Aliyev winning just under 85 percent of the vote so far. He's been officially reelected.
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You were not the only one peddling the 52 then 53 and later 54%. We had "Prof" Hornsby and "Prof" Cheeseman. Then we had Itumbi and his bots on Twitter. The results were pretty much saturated on social media.
Contrary to what you now say, I think it was a genius idea to test the fraud in small obscure sites. The choice of "obscure sites" can also be strategic. They serve as a focus group. It is a reliable method since it meets the basic criteria for conducting accurate analysis. The "obscure sites" are demographically diverse groups of people already assembled and participate in a discussion about a particular product (in this case 54%) before it is launched. Political campaigns use the same these days to provide ongoing feedback on a political campaign programs while movie companies gauge television series, etc
We saw Cambridge Analytica use Facebook to tune their message to Kenyans, Brits and Americans.
yeah we decided to release the results months before..in some obscure site ...sometimes you fools need to listen to yourself
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You're demented.
You were not the only one peddling the 52 then 53 and later 54%. We had "Prof" Hornsby and "Prof" Cheeseman. Then we had Itumbi and his bots on Twitter. The results were pretty much saturated on social media.
Contrary to what you now say, I think it was a genius idea to test the fraud in small obscure sites. The choice of "obscure sites" can also be strategic. They serve as a focus group. It is a reliable method since it meets the basic criteria for conducting accurate analysis. The "obscure sites" are demographically diverse groups of people already assembled and participate in a discussion about a particular product (in this case 54%) before it is launched. Political campaigns use the same these days to provide ongoing feedback on a political campaign programs while movie companies gauge television series, etc
We saw Cambridge Analytica use Facebook to tune their message to Kenyans, Brits and Americans.
yeah we decided to release the results months before..in some obscure site ...sometimes you fools need to listen to yourself