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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2018, 01:09:59 PM

Title: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2018, 01:09:59 PM
William Ruto's wings holds a consultative meeting at Weston Hotel to chat their political destiny:

The meeting where speakers were allowed to use Kallenjin language only was clandestine and no media house was allowed access.
William Ruto himself chaired the meeting and later left without a single photo session.

Resolutions:

1) Register a political party options not limited to or Mandago's recently registered party, URP and UDM.
2) Begin sensitizing locals across the Kallenjin Nation locally and abroad.
3) Begin early mobilizations of funds towards 2022.
4) Continue reaching out to like minded persons towards Ruto's presidency.
5) Begin de-linking themselves with Uhuru's wing.
6) Work everything possible within their powers to stop lifestyle audit exercise set to begin soon, which they say is a scheme to taint William Ruto.

Speaker after speaker spoke bitterly against the President and his tribe further warned the DP to be conscious with his Kikuyu allies like Kuria, Ichungwa, Waititu etc.... Saying they cannot be trusted.

Ruto shared his frustrations especially accessing state house and Harambee house. He disclosed to his people that some ministers are ranked way above him in Jubilee and only takes orders from either the President or Head of the public service and not the DP. He went ahead and mentioning them by names.
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: Omollo on June 28, 2018, 01:16:24 PM
You are confirming what KM and I told you a few days ago and you went BALLISTIC. Now you know who to turn to when you need real political analysis: KM and Omollo.
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2018, 01:29:19 PM
I don't do rumours. I deal with reliable information.Before the handshake happened - I had seen Uhuru trying to extend his term. The day he "mistreated" Kiunjuri during appointment was clear signal he was not committed to Ruto-Kiunjuri deal as I thought then and had other ideas up his sleaves. That I believe is the game here.What Uhuru understimate is Ruto. He probably thought he'd take it on his stride but Ruto is very decisive & has no time for equivocation. Jubilee and it's gov is going to unravel so fast. The clear winner is Raila Odinga. He is looking like a genius.
You are confirming what KM and I told you a few days ago and you went BALLISTIC. Now you know who to turn to when you need real political analysis: KM and Omollo.
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: Omollo on June 28, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
We told you very clear and reliable facts but you decided to label it "rumors" and now want to celebrate it. You should learn to listen, you might actually get some facts on time.

Ruto will reach out to Raila eventually. But right now watching Uhuru say he has no problem allowing his brother to be prosecuted and seeing him still drunk from last night's debauchery, I see a defeated man. Only a miracle can rescue him or if Ruto decides to be merciful.

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UHURU says his brother should be charged if found guilty of importing contraband sugar, assures Kenyans he has confidence in all the agencies mandated to fight corruption.

(Note that the statements contains contradictions and reflects the mediocrity of our journalists. Guilt is what courts determine and charging is what prosecutors do before that. So you have really no business "charging" a man who has already been found guilty by the courts).
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2018, 02:04:50 PM
Anyway let me admit I am still surprised by the Jubilee stupidity. This is mutually assured destruction. Uhuru and his corrupt guys trying to fight corruption seriously is self-assured destruction. The way I see, Uhuru has some serious dirt on Ruto & his men (NIS supplied Kroll associate report detailing Ruto's newly acquired wealth) - but what he probably doesn't know his that Ruto has parrallel NIS with dirt on Uhuru & his men. They are both going to need Raila...after the war...they will be equally crippled, blind and deaf (side story I have two bros who are like Uhuru and RUto.. one day I arrived in "mavoko" to find both nearly gone blind/crippled - they had fought each other to near death  :) - one of them is very physically strong - the other very strong-willed -- the people who witnessed their fights told me they nearly killed each other)--..and Raila will pick the pieces. Uhuru is vicious when scorned - and Ruto is methodological & lethal. This is guaranteed destruction. Jubilee kaput. Jubilee gov kaput.
We told you very clear and reliable facts but you decided to label it "rumors" and now want to celebrate it. You should learn to listen, you might actually get some facts on time.

Ruto will reach out to Raila eventually. But right now watching Uhuru say he has no problem allowing his brother to be prosecuted and seeing him still drunk from last night's debauchery, I see a defeated man. Only a miracle can rescue him or if Ruto decides to be merciful.

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UHURU says his brother should be charged if found guilty of importing contraband sugar, assures Kenyans he has confidence in all the agencies mandated to fight corruption.

(Note that the statements contains contradictions and reflects the mediocrity of our journalists. Guilt is what courts determine and charging is what prosecutors do before that. So you have really no business "charging" a man who has already been found guilty by the courts).
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: Omollo on June 28, 2018, 02:19:42 PM
Anyway let me admit I am still surprised by the Jubilee stupidity. This is mutually assured destruction. Uhuru and his corrupt guys trying to fight corruption seriously is self-assured destruction. The way I see, Uhuru has some serious dirt on Ruto & his men (NIS supplied Kroll associate report detailed Ruto's wealth) - but what he probably doesn't know his that Ruto has parrallel NIS with dirt on Uhuru & his men. They are both going to need Raila...after the war...they will be equally crippled, blind and deaf (side story I have two bros who are like Uhuru and one day I arrived in "mavoko" to find both nearly gone blind/crippled - they had fought each other to near death  :) - one of them is very physically strong - the other very strong-willed -- the people who witnessed their fights told me they nearly killed each other)--..and Raila will pick the pieces. Uhuru is vicious when scorned - and Ruto is methodological & lethal. This is guaranteed destruction. Jubilee kaput. Jubilee gov kaput.

I think it was bound to happen. The deal was never made in good faith by one side. There is trouble because Ruto rightfully senses that there are moves at an advanced stage to get rid of him and he has refused to go.

The anti-graft war is not mainly built on envy as you suggested; In my opinion some novice told them to target Ruto on corruption and they will have his head on a silver plate for lunch and his supporters for dinner. We I think the cannibals will not be having any dinner or lunch. Cannibal Meat will be served at some feast.

The winner will need Raila. I can already see the loser going by the delegations heading to Upper Hill. I think they are locked out of State House by Uhuru's mandarins and the only way they can reach Uhuru is through Raila. What a mess.

I an way I am glad I was around to see how Moi dealt with crises. One thing he knew and lived by was to steer clear of any drunk advisers. He would rely on sober calculating minds. Those with tempers and anger were useful where they would be deployed to for their "talent". Uhuru cannot beat this.

Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: Nefertiti on June 28, 2018, 03:56:56 PM
Why Kalenjin-only meeting? Jubilee Ruto wing is quite broad. Was Duale in attendance? I think DPP is his fellow Somali bro-in-law Haji by design.

William Ruto's wings holds a consultative meeting at Weston Hotel to chat their political destiny:

The meeting where speakers were allowed to use Kallenjin language only was clandestine and no media house was allowed access.
William Ruto himself chaired the meeting and later left without a single photo session.

Resolutions:

1) Register a political party options not limited to or Mandago's recently registered party, URP and UDM.
2) Begin sensitizing locals across the Kallenjin Nation locally and abroad.
3) Begin early mobilizations of funds towards 2022.
4) Continue reaching out to like minded persons towards Ruto's presidency.
5) Begin de-linking themselves with Uhuru's wing.
6) Work everything possible within their powers to stop lifestyle audit exercise set to begin soon, which they say is a scheme to taint William Ruto.

Speaker after speaker spoke bitterly against the President and his tribe further warned the DP to be conscious with his Kikuyu allies like Kuria, Ichungwa, Waititu etc.... Saying they cannot be trusted.

Ruto shared his frustrations especially accessing state house and Harambee house. He disclosed to his people that some ministers are ranked way above him in Jubilee and only takes orders from either the President or Head of the public service and not the DP. He went ahead and mentioning them by names.
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2018, 04:52:21 PM
Youre confusing Haji the senator from Ijara and Gen Mohammeds the powerhouse of Garissa.Haji is more TNA.There are in alliance with Duale to wad off Farah Maalim from Dadaab.
Why Kalenjin-only meeting? Jubilee Ruto wing is quite broad. Was Duale in attendance? I think DPP is his fellow Somali bro-in-law Haji by design.

William Ruto's wings holds a consultative meeting at Weston Hotel to chat their political destiny:

The meeting where speakers were allowed to use Kallenjin language only was clandestine and no media house was allowed access.
William Ruto himself chaired the meeting and later left without a single photo session.

Resolutions:

1) Register a political party options not limited to or Mandago's recently registered party, URP and UDM.
2) Begin sensitizing locals across the Kallenjin Nation locally and abroad.
3) Begin early mobilizations of funds towards 2022.
4) Continue reaching out to like minded persons towards Ruto's presidency.
5) Begin de-linking themselves with Uhuru's wing.
6) Work everything possible within their powers to stop lifestyle audit exercise set to begin soon, which they say is a scheme to taint William Ruto.

Speaker after speaker spoke bitterly against the President and his tribe further warned the DP to be conscious with his Kikuyu allies like Kuria, Ichungwa, Waititu etc.... Saying they cannot be trusted.

Ruto shared his frustrations especially accessing state house and Harambee house. He disclosed to his people that some ministers are ranked way above him in Jubilee and only takes orders from either the President or Head of the public service and not the DP. He went ahead and mentioning them by names.
Why Kalenjin-only meeting? Jubilee Ruto wing is quite broad. Was Duale in attendance? I think DPP is his fellow Somali bro-in-law Haji by design.

William Ruto's wings holds a consultative meeting at Weston Hotel to chat their political destiny:

The meeting where speakers were allowed to use Kallenjin language only was clandestine and no media house was allowed access.
William Ruto himself chaired the meeting and later left without a single photo session.

Resolutions:

1) Register a political party options not limited to or Mandago's recently registered party, URP and UDM.
2) Begin sensitizing locals across the Kallenjin Nation locally and abroad.
3) Begin early mobilizations of funds towards 2022.
4) Continue reaching out to like minded persons towards Ruto's presidency.
5) Begin de-linking themselves with Uhuru's wing.
6) Work everything possible within their powers to stop lifestyle audit exercise set to begin soon, which they say is a scheme to taint William Ruto.

Speaker after speaker spoke bitterly against the President and his tribe further warned the DP to be conscious with his Kikuyu allies like Kuria, Ichungwa, Waititu etc.... Saying they cannot be trusted.

Ruto shared his frustrations especially accessing state house and Harambee house. He disclosed to his people that some ministers are ranked way above him in Jubilee and only takes orders from either the President or Head of the public service and not the DP. He went ahead and mentioning them by names.
Why Kalenjin-only meeting? Jubilee Ruto wing is quite broad. Was Duale in attendance? I think DPP is his fellow Somali bro-in-law Haji by design.

William Ruto's wings holds a consultative meeting at Weston Hotel to chat their political destiny:

The meeting where speakers were allowed to use Kallenjin language only was clandestine and no media house was allowed access.
William Ruto himself chaired the meeting and later left without a single photo session.

Resolutions:

1) Register a political party options not limited to or Mandago's recently registered party, URP and UDM.
2) Begin sensitizing locals across the Kallenjin Nation locally and abroad.
3) Begin early mobilizations of funds towards 2022.
4) Continue reaching out to like minded persons towards Ruto's presidency.
5) Begin de-linking themselves with Uhuru's wing.
6) Work everything possible within their powers to stop lifestyle audit exercise set to begin soon, which they say is a scheme to taint William Ruto.

Speaker after speaker spoke bitterly against the President and his tribe further warned the DP to be conscious with his Kikuyu allies like Kuria, Ichungwa, Waititu etc.... Saying they cannot be trusted.

Ruto shared his frustrations especially accessing state house and Harambee house. He disclosed to his people that some ministers are ranked way above him in Jubilee and only takes orders from either the President or Head of the public service and not the DP. He went ahead and mentioning them by names.
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: Kichwa on June 28, 2018, 05:59:38 PM
The only thing I am surprised/confused about here is Ruto's decisiveness-assuming this is a true report of what happened.  I thought he would do the Kittuny dance for a little bit and buy time. He seems ready to take the war right to Ouru's door-steps right now. I either under-estimated him or he is a complete idiot.

William Ruto's wings holds a consultative meeting at Weston Hotel to chat their political destiny:

The meeting where speakers were allowed to use Kallenjin language only was clandestine and no media house was allowed access.
William Ruto himself chaired the meeting and later left without a single photo session.

Resolutions:

1) Register a political party options not limited to or Mandago's recently registered party, URP and UDM.
2) Begin sensitizing locals across the Kallenjin Nation locally and abroad.
3) Begin early mobilizations of funds towards 2022.
4) Continue reaching out to like minded persons towards Ruto's presidency.
5) Begin de-linking themselves with Uhuru's wing.
6) Work everything possible within their powers to stop lifestyle audit exercise set to begin soon, which they say is a scheme to taint William Ruto.

Speaker after speaker spoke bitterly against the President and his tribe further warned the DP to be conscious with his Kikuyu allies like Kuria, Ichungwa, Waititu etc.... Saying they cannot be trusted.

Ruto shared his frustrations especially accessing state house and Harambee house. He disclosed to his people that some ministers are ranked way above him in Jubilee and only takes orders from either the President or Head of the public service and not the DP. He went ahead and mentioning them by names.
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: Omollo on June 28, 2018, 06:07:21 PM
The only thing I am surprised/confused about here is Ruto's decisiveness-assuming this is a true report of what happened.  I thought he would do the Kittuny dance for a little bit and buy time. He seems ready to take the war right to Ouru's door-steps right now. I either under-estimated him or he is a complete idiot.

Remember what I said: If he fails to take him down in 3 months, he is toast. I am revising that from 3 months to 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on June 29, 2018, 01:55:23 AM
Told you Soo last week
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 29, 2018, 02:17:02 AM
Told you Soo last week


Called it five years ago  8) .
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: Kadudu on June 29, 2018, 09:43:56 AM
There is nothing like fighting corruption. Both Uhuru and Ruto are the biggest beneficiaries of corruption from stealing the elections to massive financial gain.
Th fight is now for who will have the reins of power after 2022. Uhuru has been convinced by his entourage that he is too young to retire, but his guys are just not yet ready to let go of the goodies. The only person standing in their way is Ruto and the only person that can help them bring Ruto down is Raila. It is not that they allover sudden love Raila, but their greed for goodies makes them even jump to bed with the devil.
Raila should just play it cool and see which side has to offer the best deal or let them bring each other down and he picks the crumbs.
Btw, where are Kalonzo and Musalia these days? Even the loud Wetangula has gone silent. :)
Title: Re: Better rumours than Omollo : UhuRuto fallout is real
Post by: RV Pundit on June 29, 2018, 09:57:01 AM
That is a nice summary the next 4 yr battle.May the best team win.
There is nothing like fighting corruption. Both Uhuru and Ruto are the biggest beneficiaries of corruption from stealing the elections to massive financial gain.
Th fight is now for who will have the reins of power after 2022. Uhuru has been convinced by his entourage that he is too young to retire, but his guys are just not yet ready to let go of the goodies. The only person standing in their way is Ruto and the only person that can help them bring Ruto down is Raila. It is not that they allover sudden love Raila, but their greed for goodies makes them even jump to bed with the devil.
Raila should just play it cool and see which side has to offer the best deal or let them bring each other down and he picks the crumbs.
Btw, where are Kalonzo and Musalia these days? Even the loud Wetangula has gone silent. :)