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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on June 06, 2018, 03:26:27 PM

Title: Cuban Doctors Arrive - Wonderful
Post by: Omollo on June 06, 2018, 03:26:27 PM
I commend Uhuru for this and request demand that more doctors from Cuba, Venezuela and Bolivia be hired. The blackmail from our local doctors must end!

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Beautiful too. I will be flying there very soon 8)
Title: Re: Cuban Doctors Arrive - Wonderful
Post by: RV Pundit on June 06, 2018, 03:36:01 PM
What do you mean beautiful - want to marry a cuban doctor now? But I agree watershed moment - we need global expertise in our public hospital - I hope they increase the number to something like 10 in every county - and give them the mandate to ran our district & sub-district hospitals. Our doctors can go to private sector if they don't want to work.
Title: Re: Cuban Doctors Arrive - Wonderful
Post by: Kichwa on June 06, 2018, 03:50:08 PM
I second that. I hope they change the culture/nature of doctor/patient relationship that we have in Kenya. The thought of ever getting sick in a Kenyan hospital scares the hell out of me after visiting relatives in District hospitals.  The attitude of doctors and nurses towards their patients needs to change. Since we love to copy foreigners, I hope we learn something good from these Cubans.

What do you mean beautiful - want to marry a cuban doctor now? But I agree watershed moment - we need global expertise in our public hospital - I hope they increase the number to something like 10 in every county - and give them the mandate to ran our district & sub-district hospitals. Our doctors can go to private sector if they don't want to work.
Title: Re: Cuban Doctors Arrive - Wonderful
Post by: RVtitem on June 06, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
Handshake does miracles
Title: Re: Cuban Doctors Arrive - Wonderful
Post by: Omollo on June 06, 2018, 04:35:44 PM
Pundit

In all the years I have been in Development, the most lasting exchanges are those invoving people. Whether it is an American Volunteer (Peace Corps) who sleeps with a student and leaves her pregnant (or not) or the village idiot who marries a British VSO or an NGO national staff who sleeps with some expat: Those are the relations that make the greatest impact. We can discuss for ever but eventually you will agree or see the point. I dont plan to marry any but I sure hope some remain in Kenya under various arrangements. I am content to get one of two working in my village.

That said Kenya must make certain changes to how we train doctors to how we train them to accept their position in society. It is not just doctors. You all recall my publicly advising my worst enemy on how to break the KNUT strike. I was pleased they followed the advise to the letter. The pursuit of money by young professionals gets to my nerves! Take some time to love your job. Serve people then look for the reward. The expectation of becoming a billionaire upon graduation must end somewhere. I hope the Cubans will help our doctors learn the importance of service over money. I am a little disappointed that they (Cubans) were offered such a high salary. In Angola I know they served there for almost nothing and helped that country through the war when they couldn't train any of their own doctors because of the South Africa (American sponsored) war.

What do you mean beautiful - want to marry a cuban doctor now? But I agree watershed moment - we need global expertise in our public hospital - I hope they increase the number to something like 10 in every county - and give them the mandate to ran our district & sub-district hospitals. Our doctors can go to private sector if they don't want to work.
Title: Re: Cuban Doctors Arrive - Wonderful
Post by: Omollo on June 06, 2018, 04:37:01 PM
Neno!!!
I second that. I hope they change the culture/nature of doctor/patient relationship that we have in Kenya. The thought of ever getting sick in a Kenyan hospital scares the hell out of me after visiting relatives in District hospitals. The attitude of doctors and nurses towards their patients needs to change. Since we love to copy foreigners, I hope we learn something good from these Cubans.

What do you mean beautiful - want to marry a cuban doctor now? But I agree watershed moment - we need global expertise in our public hospital - I hope they increase the number to something like 10 in every county - and give them the mandate to ran our district & sub-district hospitals. Our doctors can go to private sector if they don't want to work.
Title: Re: Cuban Doctors Arrive - Wonderful
Post by: Kadudu on June 06, 2018, 04:44:18 PM
Do you think the Cuban doctors will be able to change Kenyan doctors? I highly doubt. Maybe the opposite will be the case.

Neno!!!
I second that. I hope they change the culture/nature of doctor/patient relationship that we have in Kenya. The thought of ever getting sick in a Kenyan hospital scares the hell out of me after visiting relatives in District hospitals. The attitude of doctors and nurses towards their patients needs to change. Since we love to copy foreigners, I hope we learn something good from these Cubans.

What do you mean beautiful - want to marry a cuban doctor now? But I agree watershed moment - we need global expertise in our public hospital - I hope they increase the number to something like 10 in every county - and give them the mandate to ran our district & sub-district hospitals. Our doctors can go to private sector if they don't want to work.
Title: Re: Cuban Doctors Arrive - Wonderful
Post by: Omollo on June 06, 2018, 04:54:10 PM
Kadudu

There are many ways of teaching. One can teach by example. One can also be forced to adapt or perish. I assume it is the County Governments that will rush to employ the majority of these Cubans. If I have my say with my Governor, the type of doctor KM is talking about would have to reapply. Factors other than raw academia and experience would come into play - for example the feedback from patients...


Do you think the Cuban doctors will be able to change Kenyan doctors? I highly doubt. Maybe the opposite will be the case.

Neno!!!
I second that. I hope they change the culture/nature of doctor/patient relationship that we have in Kenya. The thought of ever getting sick in a Kenyan hospital scares the hell out of me after visiting relatives in District hospitals. The attitude of doctors and nurses towards their patients needs to change. Since we love to copy foreigners, I hope we learn something good from these Cubans.

What do you mean beautiful - want to marry a cuban doctor now? But I agree watershed moment - we need global expertise in our public hospital - I hope they increase the number to something like 10 in every county - and give them the mandate to ran our district & sub-district hospitals. Our doctors can go to private sector if they don't want to work.
Title: Re: Cuban Doctors Arrive - Wonderful
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 06, 2018, 05:52:44 PM
Who has vetted these doctors?  Isn't there some sort of accreditation they need before going to work in Kenya?
Title: Re: Cuban Doctors Arrive - Wonderful
Post by: Kichwa on June 08, 2018, 09:40:50 AM
An Application Letter to H.E. Muigai, and all concerned honchos in his government, by Kenyan doctor, Doreen Saringi. Surely, it isn't too much to ask;

Dear Mr President, Cabinet Secretary Ministry of Health and all the Honorable Governors. With all protocol observed, I am writing to apply for the post of interpreter to any of the one hundred Cuban specialists who are set to join our county hospitals any day from May 28th 2018. The majority of patients who will be seen by the Cuban specialists speak Kiswahili and/or mother tongue and a little or no English hence the need for interpreters. I have been interacting with Kenyan patients since my clinical years in medical school and during the last one year over my internship. That makes a whole five years of experience! I know when a middle aged man says “mimi sitaki wanawake yote”, he doesn’t mean that he doesn’t like seeing women. He means he has erectile dysfunction. I know when an elderly woman says “leo nimejikuna Nairobi usiku mzima,” she doesn’t mean she travelled all the way to Nairobi just so she can scratch herself. It means that she has a persistent itch in “her private parts”. I have had enough experience to know the various terms used to mean sex; “kukutana na mzee, kukuwa na mama watoto, wakati tunafanya mambo yetu” among many other terms.

Apart from being an interpreter, I will render additional services to whoever I will be assigned such as being their tour guide within the hospital premises and teaching them how we improvise using readily available materials. Within a week or two, I will have taught them how to make a hard cervical collar using just a carton box. I will be in theatre with them, open the water taps for them when they are scrubbing in, help them into their theatre gowns and gloves. I will be at standby with a gauze dipped in normal saline, ready to wipe sweat from their foreheads even before they ask or even any blood that may accidentally splash on their faces. I also promise to scratch their backs should they feel itchy midway into a procedure. I will do all these services at no extra cost. All I ask is to be paid an eight of whatever they are going to be paid per month. I do not need any furnished home, or security or paid bills. I will take care of all that using my salary. I will only take a leave when they take their annual leaves. During my service as an interpreter, I will not even get pregnant because that might mean a maternity leave and I wouldn’t let “my Cuban” to be frustrated in the name of pregnancy.

I hope I do not end up as over qualified for this job of an interpreter by virtue of having gone to medical school. It has been six months since I finished my internship, for the same six weeks, I have been walking these streets. First it was to get an annual retention, a registration certificate, then a certificate of compliance from HELB, a clearance from EACC, another clearance from CRB and a certificate of good conduct from DCI. I have written so many application letters I could s well do it for a living. I have delivered applications in counties far and near. I am yet to receive even a rejection letter. At least then you would know your application was seen but you didn’t qualify.

While being an interpreter never crossed my mind as I grew up, but a girl has to do what a girl has to do. I have bills to pay, HELB loans to clear, funerals and weddings to contribute to. I will do it if the government wouldn’t employ me to be the doctor that I always thought I would grow up to be. I am aware of the few choices that I have as a Kenyan doctor in this generation. I will not regret the hard work that has brought me this far. I will continue dipping my feet in a basin of cold water and study hard, do USMLEs, PLABS and I may just get lucky and practice medicine in some country in the west.

Meanwhile, I am going to try and forget that I am wasting away, waiting to be called for a job. No need to drive yourself deeper into depression. Lacking a job is hard. Seeing Cubans taking up the very jobs that you cant get in your own country is painful. It is even more painful when you remember that they didn’t even need to apply for these jobs. Nobody asked them to pay two thousand five hundred shillings for a clearance certificate from CRB. And they are not going to sit before a panel and try convince them to employ any one of them.

Yours truly,

Unemployed no use of adding the title Dr before my name,

Doreen Saringi.