Not even trump or may will save raila.they warned.now the issues is how to do it with least collatoral damageThat's like saying the issue is how to detonate a massive bomb in a crowd without collateral damage. Uhuru should not let hubris in his advisors drive him. Right now, considering who is in power and who is not, who would gain from that mess, Uhuru or Raila? It's not Uhuru. If he is wise, he will be careful not to provide leverage to an opponent without guns. And the West can absolutely mess everyone up in a day, we may hate them (and this time, everyone including NASA side has a reason to loathe the West, not just Jubilee) but that feeling doesn't take away their massive rungu. They have the biggest one in the world, even China knows that, sembuse sisi.
Not even trump or may will save raila.they warned.now the issues is how to do it with least collatoral damageThat's like saying the issue is how to detonate a massive bomb in a crowd without collateral damage. Uhuru should not let hubris in his advisors drive him. Right now, considering who is in power and who is not, who would gain from that mess, Uhuru or Raila? It's not Uhuru. If he is wise, he will be careful not to provide leverage to an opponent without guns. And the West can absolutely mess everyone up in a day, we may hate them (and this time, everyone including NASA side has a reason to loathe the West, not just Jubilee) but that feeling doesn't take away their massive rungu. They have the biggest one in the world, even China knows that, sembuse sisi.
I said that in response to the suggestion that the leaders of the U.S and U.K COULDN'T intervene. We may hate it but if they wanted to, REALLY wanted to, I guarantee you they could do it with a phone call. We can protest the condescension but real is real. The mzungu can make a mess of us if he wanted to.Not even trump or may will save raila.they warned.now the issues is how to do it with least collatoral damageThat's like saying the issue is how to detonate a massive bomb in a crowd without collateral damage. Uhuru should not let hubris in his advisors drive him. Right now, considering who is in power and who is not, who would gain from that mess, Uhuru or Raila? It's not Uhuru. If he is wise, he will be careful not to provide leverage to an opponent without guns. And the West can absolutely mess everyone up in a day, we may hate them (and this time, everyone including NASA side has a reason to loathe the West, not just Jubilee) but that feeling doesn't take away their massive rungu. They have the biggest one in the world, even China knows that, sembuse sisi.
The US under Trump could not care less if Kenya exploded. I can't think of a less interested person than Trump when it comes to Africa. He barely cares about Puerto Rico. Raila and kamwana must both know that. It has been reduced to a simple power struggle. Thus far, it is apparent that jubilee has no authority over Raila.
I said that in response to the suggestion that the leaders of the U.S and U.K COULDN'T intervene. We may hate it but if they wanted to, REALLY wanted to, I guarantee you they could do it with a phone call. We can protest the condescension but real is real. The mzungu can make a mess of us if he wanted to.Not even trump or may will save raila.they warned.now the issues is how to do it with least collatoral damageThat's like saying the issue is how to detonate a massive bomb in a crowd without collateral damage. Uhuru should not let hubris in his advisors drive him. Right now, considering who is in power and who is not, who would gain from that mess, Uhuru or Raila? It's not Uhuru. If he is wise, he will be careful not to provide leverage to an opponent without guns. And the West can absolutely mess everyone up in a day, we may hate them (and this time, everyone including NASA side has a reason to loathe the West, not just Jubilee) but that feeling doesn't take away their massive rungu. They have the biggest one in the world, even China knows that, sembuse sisi.
The US under Trump could not care less if Kenya exploded. I can't think of a less interested person than Trump when it comes to Africa. He barely cares about Puerto Rico. Raila and kamwana must both know that. It has been reduced to a simple power struggle. Thus far, it is apparent that jubilee has no authority over Raila.
One could and one indeed does (speaking for myself) make that very argument. The bazungu are not in it for the African or their own ideals: they are in it for the business interests of their own citizens and their own voters/lobbiers/special interests. This reflects the priorities of the current holder of World's biggest rungu ever. Bazungu game will change only if the mess becomes a matter affecting their own interests. Which is why I think Uhuru would be silly if he allowed himself to be baited into messing with the status quo which favors him, however unfairly I believe it does.I said that in response to the suggestion that the leaders of the U.S and U.K COULDN'T intervene. We may hate it but if they wanted to, REALLY wanted to, I guarantee you they could do it with a phone call. We can protest the condescension but real is real. The mzungu can make a mess of us if he wanted to.
That's true. It comes with the territory being disorganized, corrupt and with no leverage. Heck Kenya can barely defend itself against Uganda. One could even argue the current mess is partly due to mzungu's looking the other way when things were being messed up by IEBC/Jubilee.
Not even trump or may will save raila.they warned.now the issues is how to do it with least collatoral damageThat's like saying the issue is how to detonate a massive bomb in a crowd without collateral damage. Uhuru should not let hubris in his advisors drive him. Right now, considering who is in power and who is not, who would gain from that mess, Uhuru or Raila? It's not Uhuru. If he is wise, he will be careful not to provide leverage to an opponent without guns. And the West can absolutely mess everyone up in a day, we may hate them (and this time, everyone including NASA side has a reason to loathe the West, not just Jubilee) but that feeling doesn't take away their massive rungu. They have the biggest one in the world, even China knows that, sembuse sisi.
The US under Trump could not care less if Kenya exploded. I can't think of a less interested person than Trump when it comes to Africa. He barely cares about Puerto Rico. Raila and kamwana must both know that. It has been reduced to a simple power struggle. Thus far, it is apparent that jubilee has no authority over Raila.
He won't arrest him.
Babu has already dropped the title President of the Republic of Kenya from his twirra bio.
Naswa are very careful not to call Babu President of the Republic.
Babu has quickly climbed down and the other course of action is to tone down the rheroric
Otherwise Babu will be arrested. It's not that far fetched and will have negligible consequences outside Luo nyanza
?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E3][/url]The U.S. is gravely concerned by Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga’s self-“inauguration” on January 30. We reject actions that undermine #Kenya’s Constitution and the rule of law. @UKenyatta was elected as President of #Kenya on October 26, 2017. https://t.co/K8zEPFilaj
— Department of State (@StateDept) February 1, 2018
[url?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E3][/url]The U.S. is gravely concerned by Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga’s self-“inauguration” on January 30. We reject actions that undermine #Kenya’s Constitution and the rule of law. @UKenyatta was elected as President of #Kenya on October 26, 2017. https://t.co/K8zEPFilaj
— Department of State (@StateDept) February 1, 2018
He won't arrest him.
Babu has already dropped the title President of the Republic of Kenya from his twirra bio.
Naswa are very careful not to call Babu President of the Republic.
Babu has quickly climbed down and the other course of action is to tone down the rheroric
Otherwise Babu will be arrested. It's not that far fetched and will have negligible consequences outside Luo nyanza
I remember when Ouru ignored the same state department and ran for president although he was indicted by the ICC for crimes against humanity. Now they embrace him. I am sure in due time they will get over Raila's swearing in.[url?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E3][/url]The U.S. is gravely concerned by Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga’s self-“inauguration” on January 30. We reject actions that undermine #Kenya’s Constitution and the rule of law. @UKenyatta was elected as President of #Kenya on October 26, 2017. https://t.co/K8zEPFilaj
— Department of State (@StateDept) February 1, 2018
Ati Babu has climbed down, down from where? Ouru destroyed his presidency by mortgaging it to Ruto and he needs to stop being beholden to the Ruto presidency and stop listening to Kalenjins like Pundit. Arresting Raila will only escalate maneno and will not do him any good. The only way out is dialogue. Matters will escalate until there is dialogue leading to a complete overhaul and reform of the electoral system. There will be no 2022 elections unless there are reforms. NASA zones will not participate in any elections until the electoral reforms are done and we will agitate for it until it is done even if it takes 20 years. I hear folks talks about elections in 2022 under the same circumstances and I laugh. NASA zones will boycott all elections in their zones and the campaigns will be consigned to Rift Valley and Central. If ouru want to salvage his 2nd term and whats left of his legacy, he really needs to climb down, talk to Raila, get electoral reforms in exchange, ask for peace. For him to do this, he has to find a nice way to control Ruto.He won't arrest him.
Babu has already dropped the title President of the Republic of Kenya from his twirra bio.
Naswa are very careful not to call Babu President of the Republic.
Babu has quickly climbed down and the other course of action is to tone down the rheroric
Otherwise Babu will be arrested. It's not that far fetched and will have negligible consequences outside Luo nyanza
Negligible consequences my foot. Is that why the oather is under arrest while the arch criminal roams free? Ama Jubilee now have love for Luos and that's what's restraining them? Ndoto.
And RAO doesn't need lessons in manners? Ndoto.Negligible consequences my foot. Is that why the oather is under arrest while the arch criminal roams free? Ama Jubilee now have love for Luos and that's what's restraining them? Ndoto.
For one the oath was watered down to some shitty People's President
It was underwhelming. Everyone calls it a mock inauguration. I was waiting for the real deal.
The crackdown is just to teach t
Babu fanatics manners
He has alreadyAnd RAO doesn't need lessons in manners? Ndoto.Negligible consequences my foot. Is that why the oather is under arrest while the arch criminal roams free? Ama Jubilee now have love for Luos and that's what's restraining them? Ndoto.
For one the oath was watered down to some shitty People's President
It was underwhelming. Everyone calls it a mock inauguration. I was waiting for the real deal.
The crackdown is just to teach t
Babu fanatics manners
O priss. Was that before or after the act being punished? Keep looking and make another attempt. Don't give up.He has alreadyAnd RAO doesn't need lessons in manners? Ndoto.Negligible consequences my foot. Is that why the oather is under arrest while the arch criminal roams free? Ama Jubilee now have love for Luos and that's what's restraining them? Ndoto.
For one the oath was watered down to some shitty People's President
It was underwhelming. Everyone calls it a mock inauguration. I was waiting for the real deal.
The crackdown is just to teach t
Babu fanatics manners
Security withdrawn etc
AfterO priss. Was that before or after the act being punished? Keep looking and make another attempt. Don't give up.He has alreadyAnd RAO doesn't need lessons in manners? Ndoto.Negligible consequences my foot. Is that why the oather is under arrest while the arch criminal roams free? Ama Jubilee now have love for Luos and that's what's restraining them? Ndoto.
For one the oath was watered down to some shitty People's President
It was underwhelming. Everyone calls it a mock inauguration. I was waiting for the real deal.
The crackdown is just to teach t
Babu fanatics manners
Security withdrawn etc
He has alreadyAnd RAO doesn't need lessons in manners? Ndoto.Negligible consequences my foot. Is that why the oather is under arrest while the arch criminal roams free? Ama Jubilee now have love for Luos and that's what's restraining them? Ndoto.
For one the oath was watered down to some shitty People's President
It was underwhelming. Everyone calls it a mock inauguration. I was waiting for the real deal.
The crackdown is just to teach t
Babu fanatics manners
Security withdrawn etc
They'll also probably add a stone faced look and if he really pushes it, a wagging finger might be thrown in the mix, I mean, who knows; Sky's the limit.He has already
Security withdrawn etc
I wonder what they would do should he order the eviction the squatter at State House. They may just remove his last watchman.
who ever makes it to the ICC this time around won't come back.No one is going to the ICC. The groups that carried out organized ethnic cleansing in Rift Valley are the ones now in government. ICC doesn't investigate mass demonstrations.
No one is going to the ICC. The groups that carried out organized ethnic cleansing in Rift Valley are the ones now in government. ICC doesn't investigate mass demonstrations.
Dont see any other option for him now...those in odm zones need to move otherwise they may become collatoral damage .unless you are dumb then move to friendly zones.will get ugly real soon...
Silly personal vendetta between Kenyatta and Odinga continues to consume the psyche of whole country to the 6th decade!! Mwafrika has a long way to go before he breaks away from this primitivity.
While in the US the vendetta between A Clinton and a Trump wont do much to the fundamentals, here just like in South Sudan (Kiir-Riek buffoons) everything screeches to a halt.
Today's Uhuruto needs the Raila noise to divert attention from looming cash crunch and collapsed service delivery, just like in 2014 when they said 'opposition is too weak', thus reason they can't finish him politically. This noise will persist to 2021 to ensure polarised voting.
If Luo Nation can infect at least 3 other tribes with their rage, then just maybe Kenya would explode.
The isolated Luo is a myth.If Luo Nation can infect at least 3 other tribes with their rage, then just maybe Kenya would explode.
I shudder sometimes to imagine what Kenya would look like without them. They have taken the major chunks of the hits that would be directed at some different bogeyman tribe in their absence. The result is that they have ended up with the most informed and fearless leadership among the Kenyan communities.
That aside, they have more than 3 tribes on their side. That is one of reasons the jubilant has been unable to clamp down. Now reduced to attacking the messengers and flexing muscle on minions.
The Kenyatta-Odinga rivalry is a myth from some Jubilee allied spin-masters. I've never heard NASA supporters talk of this. They are the ones with a vendetta against the Odingas inherited from that bad man who was our first president who made them swear an oath to keep that vendetta and they imagine everyone else is on that train. The youth pushing RAO and the rest couldn't care less about this imaginary feud.
You are the one who thinks its a vendetta between Kenyatta and Odinga to belittle the fact that elections have been stolen since 2007, the economy is going downhill, corruption, tribalism and impunity are at their nadir. Do not bore us with ignorance my friend.Silly personal vendetta between Kenyatta and Odinga continues to consume the psyche of whole country to the 6th decade!! Mwafrika has a long way to go before he breaks away from this primitivity.
While in the US the vendetta between A Clinton and a Trump wont do much to the fundamentals, here just like in South Sudan (Kiir-Riek buffoons) everything screeches to a halt.
Today's Uhuruto needs the Raila noise to divert attention from looming cash crunch and collapsed service delivery, just like in 2014 when they said 'opposition is too weak', thus reason they can't finish him politically. This noise will persist to 2021 to ensure polarised voting.
The isolated Luo is a myth.If Luo Nation can infect at least 3 other tribes with their rage, then just maybe Kenya would explode.
I shudder sometimes to imagine what Kenya would look like without them. They have taken the major chunks of the hits that would be directed at some different bogeyman tribe in their absence. The result is that they have ended up with the most informed and fearless leadership among the Kenyan communities.
That aside, they have more than 3 tribes on their side. That is one of reasons the jubilant has been unable to clamp down. Now reduced to attacking the messengers and flexing muscle on minions.
If Luo Nation can infect at least 3 other tribes with their rage, then just maybe Kenya would explode.
Damn right, except the scions of these tribes abandoned Babu at his greatest time of need.If Luo Nation can infect at least 3 other tribes with their rage, then just maybe Kenya would explode.
I shudder sometimes to imagine what Kenya would look like without them. They have taken the major chunks of the hits that would be directed at some different bogeyman tribe in their absence. The result is that they have ended up with the most informed and fearless leadership among the Kenyan communities.
That aside, they have more than 3 tribes on their side. That is one of reasons the jubilant has been unable to clamp down. Now reduced to attacking the messengers and flexing muscle on minions.
Lets make the silly and stupid assumption that the luos are the only people who are outraged by what's going on in Kenya-Luos are the only ones disturbed with the level of corruption, impunity, mismanagement of the economy, electoral theft, even the media ban-let us make all those silly assumptions. My question to you is, if Luos are a nation, what is Kenya?If Luo Nation can infect at least 3 other tribes with their rage, then just maybe Kenya would explode.
Obviously each side has its diehard bedrock - Jubilee has the advantage of the Kikuyu first and the Kalenjin who feel their "turn" in 2022 is under threat. NASA do not have this benefit and are in fact divided by succession. The Luo are the NASA bedrock and that's not a disadvantage except maybe for the optics. It's for the same reason Jubilee fronts Tuju while Murathe calls the shots.
vooke this man Joho might rain on your narrative. I said it folks, Joho is the new guy after Raila. Pundit may not agree.
Youth demand to swear in Hassan Joho as Raila's deputy
https://www.nation.co.ke/counties/mombasa/Youth-demand-to-swear-in-Hassan-Joho-as-Raila-Odinga-deputy/1954178-4290034-um1h9b/index.html (https://www.nation.co.ke/counties/mombasa/Youth-demand-to-swear-in-Hassan-Joho-as-Raila-Odinga-deputy/1954178-4290034-um1h9b/index.html)
(https://www.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/4290060/highRes/1875712/-/maxw/600/-/1v04du/-/Youth+pic.jpg)
Joho is Raila pooddle and cannot stand alone. He looks certainly likely to ran as Raila's running mate in 2022.
Which means he might wind up as Odinga successor - with no visible Luo leader of Raila calibre presently. Maybe except the toxic Miguna. Joho is a demagogue without a constituency - are the Swahilis even 1%? - so much for runningmate.
If Joho can herd together the dwindling ODM constituency - which needs a miracle in the face of Ruto machinations - he can emerge as a viable national figure.Joho is Raila pooddle and cannot stand alone. He looks certainly likely to ran as Raila's running mate in 2022.