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Title: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 03, 2017, 10:06:14 PM
Nasa lead technical advisor who had been working from undisclosed location in coast province has gone missing. High voltage intelligence indicates police killer squad picked him up early today. Family triggered panic button as efforts to track him in all police station in coast yielded nothing. Uhuru people must produce Ndii alive or kenya will burn.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: bryan275 on December 03, 2017, 11:20:47 PM
The criminal government has him.  The massive electoral fraud must be defended at all costs. 
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 03, 2017, 11:38:31 PM
Jubilee thugs have crossed the red line it's time for Raila to act and call on his 70% supporters to rise up before it's too late. Dealing with jubilee thugs constitutionally will never work NRM must change mode of operation.  To beat a bully you must strike twice as hard. Election thieves like Chirchir, Chiloba and Chebukati are making merry while the true sons and daughters of Kenya are paying the ultimate price.....Raila must rise above this statesman non sense. Kama mbaya mbaya
The criminal government has him.  The massive electoral fraud must be defended at all costs. 
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 04, 2017, 01:52:59 AM
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Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 04, 2017, 01:56:21 AM
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Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 04, 2017, 02:36:25 AM
Why the secrecy?  So that if he is killed they can deny it was them?
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on December 04, 2017, 02:59:02 AM
Jubilee thugs have crossed the red line it's time for Raila to act and call on his 70% supporters to rise up before it's too late. Dealing with jubilee thugs constitutionally will never work NRM must change mode of operation.  To beat a bully you must strike twice as hard. Election thieves like Chirchir, Chiloba and Chebukati are making merry while the true sons and daughters of Kenya are paying the ultimate price.....Raila must rise above this statesman non sense. Kama mbaya mbaya
The criminal government has him.  The massive electoral fraud must be defended at all costs. 

You are expecting too much from NASA politicians. Raila mudavadi and Kalonzo just want a chance to eat quitely. So rocking the boat is not a choice they will make no matter what. They have too much personal interest that overrides any needs of their supporters. Fools like ndii will be killed and no one will act
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 04, 2017, 03:09:40 AM
Raila want to be a statesman when dealing with inducted ICC criminals who will kill anyone and everyone to hold on to power. Raila better wake up and unleash peoples power before its too late.
This time I have to admit Raila is determined to go all out.

Jubilee thugs have crossed the red line it's time for Raila to act and call on his 70% supporters to rise up before it's too late. Dealing with jubilee thugs constitutionally will never work NRM must change mode of operation.  To beat a bully you must strike twice as hard. Election thieves like Chirchir, Chiloba and Chebukati are making merry while the true sons and daughters of Kenya are paying the ultimate price.....Raila must rise above this statesman non sense. Kama mbaya mbaya
The criminal government has him.  The massive electoral fraud must be defended at all costs. 

You are expecting too much from NASA politicians. Raila mudavadi and Kalonzo just want a chance to eat quitely. So rocking the boat is not a choice they will make no matter what. They have too much personal interest that overrides any needs of their supporters. Fools like ndii will be killed and no one will act
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 04, 2017, 06:59:42 AM
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Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 04, 2017, 07:17:58 AM
If they release him he will talk and be even more of a pain in their ass.  So they’ll kill him.  I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: RV Pundit on December 04, 2017, 08:25:39 AM
Secession is serious criminal business. This is not about writing a critical politically inspired column every saturday. This is planning subversion and treason including people revolution, swearing in Raila and such other dangerous activities that naturally attract the police crank squad to open up your skull and confirm your sanity.

NASA are operating on the red-line - and Dr Ndii is a fool to allow himself to play along that very narrow line where a small misstep can interpreted as attempt to oust a duly elected president.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: bryan275 on December 04, 2017, 08:32:08 AM
Secession is serious criminal business. This is not about writing a critical politically inspired column every saturday. This is planning subversion and treason including people revolution, swearing in Raila and such other dangerous activities that naturally attract the police crank squad to open up your skull and confirm your sanity.

NASA are operating on the red-line - and Dr Ndii is a fool to allow himself to play along that very narrow line where a small misstep can interpreted as attempt to oust a duly elected president.


Treason?   Jubilidiots refuse to read and accept the entire constitution.   Self determination is legal.   Treason is committing massive electoral  against Kenyan people.   Simples
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: bryan275 on December 04, 2017, 08:32:48 AM
If they release him he will talk and be even more of a pain in their ass.  So they’ll kill him.  I hope I am wrong.

I hope you are wrong...Very wrong
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: RV Pundit on December 04, 2017, 08:40:37 AM
Sorry for the next five years - the Independent Police and DPP - who listen to AG legal advice - opinion as legal enforcer will be important and as well as the judiciary who will help interpret whether your secessionist or national resistance or self determination call is legal or treason. Dangerous stuff - if it's police think it's treason - then as per penal code - they'll take you thro hell - and back - and judiciary may not be of much help.

It's all good for anonymous Bryan to call for it all the way from rural England. It foolish for Dr Ndii to allow himself to be misused by Raila. Let Raila do this himself. Not act like it the demand from "my people".

Next we shall be seeing Dr Ndii aging parents and relatives in TV pleading or undressing. Not nice.

Smell the coffee. Uhuru is the DULY ELECTED PREISDENT of Kenya. He swore to protect the constitution and he'll do that. So accept and move on. Or well security forces will make that very crispy loud and clear.

Treason?   Jubilidiots refuse to read and accept the entire constitution.   Self determination is legal.   Treason is committing massive electoral  against Kenyan people.   Simples
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 04, 2017, 08:59:02 AM
Let us hope for the best. The base is fully activated,
Fired up and ready to go. Based on what am hearing I doubt Raila has control of the people. It's only 9am here and we are still waiting. ....
If they release him he will talk and be even more of a pain in their ass.  So they’ll kill him.  I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 04, 2017, 09:07:55 AM
There is no way you will control 70%  of the population through police force it will not work. Moi and Biwott had more power but the majority proved to be too strong for them.Biwott died like a dog and Moi is about to follow,
We should just stick him in bee hive and roll him down Mau forest.....criminal duo will fail too. Uhuru will live to regret stealing elections, his family has the most to loose.
Secession is serious criminal business. This is not about writing a critical politically inspired column every saturday. This is planning subversion and treason including people revolution, swearing in Raila and such other dangerous activities that naturally attract the police crank squad to open up your skull and confirm your sanity.

NASA are operating on the red-line - and Dr Ndii is a fool to allow himself to play along that very narrow line where a small misstep can interpreted as attempt to oust a duly elected president.


Treason?   Jubilidiots refuse to read and accept the entire constitution.   Self determination is legal.   Treason is committing massive electoral  against Kenyan people.   Simples
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: RV Pundit on December 04, 2017, 09:12:14 AM
A sicko.
There is no way you will control 70%  of the population through police force it will not work. Moi and Biwott had more power but the majority proved to be too strong for them.Biwott died like a dog and Moi is about to follow,
We should just stick him in bee hive and roll him down Mau forest.....criminal duo will fail too. Uhuru will live to regret stealing elections, his family has the most to loose.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: bryan275 on December 04, 2017, 10:44:20 AM
Sorry for the next five years - the Independent Police and DPP - who listen to AG legal advice - opinion as legal enforcer will be important and as well as the judiciary who will help interpret whether your secessionist or national resistance or self determination call is legal or treason. Dangerous stuff - if it's police think it's treason - then as per penal code - they'll take you thro hell - and back - and judiciary may not be of much help.

It's all good for anonymous Bryan to call for it all the way from rural England. It foolish for Dr Ndii to allow himself to be misused by Raila. Let Raila do this himself. Not act like it the demand from "my people".

Next we shall be seeing Dr Ndii aging parents and relatives in TV pleading or undressing. Not nice.

Smell the coffee. Uhuru is the DULY ELECTED PREISDENT of Kenya. He swore to protect the constitution and he'll do that. So accept and move on. Or well security forces will make that very crispy loud and clear.

Treason?   Jubilidiots refuse to read and accept the entire constitution.   Self determination is legal.   Treason is committing massive electoral  against Kenyan people.   Simples


Utajua hujui.   
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: bryan275 on December 04, 2017, 10:49:01 AM
There is no way you will control 70%  of the population through police force it will not work. Moi and Biwott had more power but the majority proved to be too strong for them.Biwott died like a dog and Moi is about to follow,
We should just stick him in bee hive and roll him down Mau forest.....criminal duo will fail too. Uhuru will live to regret stealing elections, his family has the most to loose.
Secession is serious criminal business. This is not about writing a critical politically inspired column every saturday. This is planning subversion and treason including people revolution, swearing in Raila and such other dangerous activities that naturally attract the police crank squad to open up your skull and confirm your sanity.

NASA are operating on the red-line - and Dr Ndii is a fool to allow himself to play along that very narrow line where a small misstep can interpreted as attempt to oust a duly elected president.


Treason?   Jubilidiots refuse to read and accept the entire constitution.   Self determination is legal.   Treason is committing massive electoral  against Kenyan people.   Simples


As things stand, Kenyans on Twitter are already directly warning the chief thieving bastard that his children and grandchildren are not welcome and will not live in Kenya.   The generational curse is coming thick and fast. 
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: 804063 on December 04, 2017, 10:49:55 AM
There is no way you will control 70%  of the population through police force it will not work. Moi and Biwott had more power but the majority proved to be too strong for them.Biwott died like a dog and Moi is about to follow,
We should just stick him in bee hive and roll him down Mau forest.....criminal duo will fail too. Uhuru will live to regret stealing elections, his family has the most to loose.
Secession is serious criminal business. This is not about writing a critical politically inspired column every saturday. This is planning subversion and treason including people revolution, swearing in Raila and such other dangerous activities that naturally attract the police crank squad to open up your skull and confirm your sanity.

NASA are operating on the red-line - and Dr Ndii is a fool to allow himself to play along that very narrow line where a small misstep can interpreted as attempt to oust a duly elected president.


Treason?   Jubilidiots refuse to read and accept the entire constitution.   Self determination is legal.   Treason is committing massive electoral  against Kenyan people.   Simples

When did flogs cloaking sound prevent cows from drinking water in a pond/river.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: vooke on December 04, 2017, 11:31:36 AM
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 04, 2017, 11:40:58 AM
Looks like the jubilant has not completely lost it in his panic.  Yet.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: RV Pundit on December 04, 2017, 11:50:41 AM
They should charge him with treason - and given that is capital offence - the police can hold him for 14 days as they engage in more investigations. This will help cool him down so hopefully he can come back to his sense though I noticed he went mad long time ago. But more importantly this is a detterent measure so people don't casually imagine stuff like swearing in gov or seceding are child walk.

For reference ask Spain and the Catalonia how that is going on in the very developed Europe. Maybe Bryan can also help check for us the status of Northern Ireland?

Uhuru first task in power is to make NASA realize electioneering is over and he is duly elected PORK. He need to come down really hard on the nonsense that has been going on for far too long. There is really no other way - nip the nonsense in the bud.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: 804063 on December 04, 2017, 12:14:51 PM
They should charge him with treason - and given that is capital offence - the police can hold him for 14 days as they engage in more investigations. This will help cool him down so hopefully he can come back to his sense though I noticed he went mad long time ago. But more importantly this is a detterent measure so people don't casually imagine stuff like swearing in gov or seceding are child walk.

For reference ask Spain and the Catalonia how that is going on in the very developed Europe. Maybe Bryan can also help check for us the status of Northern Ireland?

Uhuru first task in power is to make NASA realize electioneering is over and he is duly elected PORK. He need to come down really hard on the nonsense that has been going on for far too long. There is really no other way - nip the nonsense in the bud.

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kichwa on December 04, 2017, 04:58:00 PM

Law and order arguments does not work very well in a land of impunity. Kenyans know that ouruto are criminals who should all be in jail serving life sentences and therefore they cannot even begin to talk law and order to anybody. When you go to Moi for advise, this is the kind of advise you get.  This is now beyond law, this is politics and Ndii is a political detainee. Ouruto will lose this case either in court or in political arena. Its downhill for them from now on.

They should charge him with treason - and given that is capital offence - the police can hold him for 14 days as they engage in more investigations. This will help cool him down so hopefully he can come back to his sense though I noticed he went mad long time ago. But more importantly this is a detterent measure so people don't casually imagine stuff like swearing in gov or seceding are child walk.

For reference ask Spain and the Catalonia how that is going on in the very developed Europe. Maybe Bryan can also help check for us the status of Northern Ireland?

Uhuru first task in power is to make NASA realize electioneering is over and he is duly elected PORK. He need to come down really hard on the nonsense that has been going on for far too long. There is really no other way - nip the nonsense in the bud.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: vooke on December 04, 2017, 05:10:01 PM

Law and order arguments does not work very well in a land of impunity. Kenyans know that ouruto are criminals who should all be in jail serving life sentences and therefore they cannot even begin to talk law and order to anybody. When you go to Moi for advise, this is the kind of advise you get.  This is now beyond law, this is politics and Ndii is a political detainee. Ouruto will lose this case either in court or in political arena. Its downhill for them from now on.


They are not out to win but to intimidate.

They harassed Mwende and you can bet that hurt like hell.

The charges are frivolous; incitement based on an interview weeks ago
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: gout on December 04, 2017, 05:23:52 PM
Ndii and the wife having worked with these criminals know that they will not give him a lollipop. It is going to get darker for anybody on Ruto's 2022 plan. He doesn't care the size of the hole he digs whether it is outside his doorstep. Only a naive person is surprised of the extent they will be digging.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: bryan275 on December 04, 2017, 06:24:51 PM

Law and order arguments does not work very well in a land of impunity. Kenyans know that ouruto are criminals who should all be in jail serving life sentences and therefore they cannot even begin to talk law and order to anybody. When you go to Moi for advise, this is the kind of advise you get.  This is now beyond law, this is politics and Ndii is a political detainee. Ouruto will lose this case either in court or in political arena. Its downhill for them from now on.

They should charge him with treason - and given that is capital offence - the police can hold him for 14 days as they engage in more investigations. This will help cool him down so hopefully he can come back to his sense though I noticed he went mad long time ago. But more importantly this is a detterent measure so people don't casually imagine stuff like swearing in gov or seceding are child walk.

For reference ask Spain and the Catalonia how that is going on in the very developed Europe. Maybe Bryan can also help check for us the status of Northern Ireland?

Uhuru first task in power is to make NASA realize electioneering is over and he is duly elected PORK. He need to come down really hard on the nonsense that has been going on for far too long. There is really no other way - nip the nonsense in the bud.

Quite.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 04, 2017, 06:33:08 PM
They were planning to eliminate the guy, but witnesses forced them to come up with a cover story.  Hence the flimsy allegations of incitement.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kichwa on December 04, 2017, 06:38:19 PM



Law and order arguments does not work very well in a land of impunity. Kenyans know that ouruto are criminals who should all be in jail serving life sentences and therefore they cannot even begin to talk law and order to anybody. When you go to Moi for advise, this is the kind of advise you get.  This is now beyond law, this is politics and Ndii is a political detainee. Ouruto will lose this case either in court or in political arena. Its downhill for them from now on.


They are not out to win but to intimidate.

They harassed Mwende and you can bet that hurt like hell.

The charges are frivolous; incitement based on an interview weeks ago

Very frivolous, I thought they were going for treason.  Ndii is a very smart guy and I do not think they can ever catch him on treason.  Moi used to have judges and persecutors to push for those kinds of tramped up charges. They probably tried treason but somebody saved them from the embarrassment. I really do not know what they have achieved because both Ndii and Mwende are not the kind of people you intimidate by these kinds of old and crude methods of Moi and Kenyattaa years.  They have instead hurt themselves more.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: RV Pundit on December 04, 2017, 06:45:22 PM
Let him try swearing Raila. That was warning shot. I doubt he'll try again. His clay feet are going to cave in - having your wife pleading for Uhuru kenyatta to spare your balls is not easy stuff. Raila knows what treason is - he spent 9yrs in Kamiti.And he was lucky because Jaramogi cried before Moi to save him - otherwise many poor 82 Airforce met the gallows!.Raila doesn't want Ida pleading to Uhuru kenyatta to spare his life.Therefore he is very disciplined but is looking for convenient fools like Dr Ndii. Why would he be elected Chief Organizer of dangerous stuff like treasonous swearing of Raila and secession. Even diehard Raila core don't want the position - and list has none of them - Ndii sijui Sinjenyi and other unknowns thrusted forward by Raila as Chief organizers of People Assembly:D :D :D How stupid can you be? Even Miguna Miguna will not take that position and ran back to Canada :) . Dr Ndii is a pitiful fool being taken advantage. Just imagine if this was position of real power :) . I hope he's know understand this is shiet is serious.

Obviously Kenyans want UhuRuto to stamp on nonsense very hard so we can go back to living our mundane lives and get back to nation or family building. Raila lost. Enough of that. Let focus on other things..until 2022..when he can stand against Ruto.

Very frivolous, I thought they were going for treason.  Ndii is a very smart guy and I do not think they can ever catch him on treason.  Moi used to have judges and persecutors to push for those kinds of tramped up charges. They probably tried treason but somebody saved them from the embarrassment. I really do not know what they have achieved because both Ndii and Mwende are not the kind of people you intimidate by these kinds of old and crude methods of Moi and Kenyattaa years.  They have instead hurt themselves more.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: RV Pundit on December 04, 2017, 06:53:59 PM
Ruto I doubt is as impatient as Uhuru. Ruto believes in war of attrition with his opponent and wearing them down....marathon wise. Uhuru simply has not time or patience for nonsense and will not hesistate to use his money or positon to extra-judicial sought stuff out. Uhuru is kid of privilege. He has no time for pain or patience. His entire life he wants something  - he gets it.

Ruto Knows he has to work harder and longer than the privelege or  entrenched competitors. Uhuru has never had to work for anything. He wants something he gets it. That is why when he doesn't get it - he bust into public tantrum. Uhuru has no qualms making the money works for him. He doesn't care about details. He has had top-notch professionals all his life working for him.

Ndii and the wife having worked with these criminals know that they will not give him a lollipop. It is going to get darker for anybody on Ruto's 2022 plan. He doesn't care the size of the hole he digs whether it is outside his doorstep. Only a naive person is surprised of the extent they will be digging.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: RV Pundit on December 04, 2017, 07:10:45 PM
Huyu amelala jela siku ya moi
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Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: bryan275 on December 04, 2017, 07:43:32 PM
Let him try swearing Raila. That was warning shot. I doubt he'll try again. His clay feet are going to cave in - having your wife pleading for Uhuru kenyatta to spare your balls is not easy stuff. Raila knows what treason is - he spent 9yrs in Kamiti.And he was lucky because Jaramogi cried before Moi to save him - otherwise many poor 82 Airforce met the gallows!.Raila doesn't want Ida pleading to Uhuru kenyatta to spare his life.Therefore he is very disciplined but is looking for convenient fools like Dr Ndii. Why would he be elected Chief Organizer of dangerous stuff like treasonous swearing of Raila and secession. Even diehard Raila core don't want the position - and list has none of them - Ndii sijui Sinjenyi and other unknowns thrusted forward by Raila as Chief organizers of People Assembly:D :D :D How stupid can you be? Even Miguna Miguna will not take that position and ran back to Canada :) . Dr Ndii is a pitiful fool being taken advantage. Just imagine if this was position of real power :) . I hope he's know understand this is shiet is serious.

Obviously Kenyans want UhuRuto to stamp on nonsense very hard so we can go back to living our mundane lives and get back to nation or family building. Raila lost. Enough of that. Let focus on other things..until 2022..when he can stand against Ruto.

Very frivolous, I thought they were going for treason.  Ndii is a very smart guy and I do not think they can ever catch him on treason.  Moi used to have judges and persecutors to push for those kinds of tramped up charges. They probably tried treason but somebody saved them from the embarrassment. I really do not know what they have achieved because both Ndii and Mwende are not the kind of people you intimidate by these kinds of old and crude methods of Moi and Kenyattaa years.  They have instead hurt themselves more.

You really do not understand what's treasonous and whats not.  Massive electoral fraud is treasonable, defrauding the ministry of health causing death is treasonable, threatening the supreme Court justices to secure a favourable ruling is treasonable.  Being sworn in as a matter of public interest and protection of human rights is not. 

#Uhurunotmypresident #UhuruByeBye #Resist
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 04, 2017, 07:46:23 PM
That was the plot big give away is the dod fire. Remember how they staged a show in sugoi while they eliminated msando? 
They were planning to eliminate the guy, but witnesses forced them to come up with a cover story.  Hence the flimsy allegations of incitement.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 04, 2017, 07:51:24 PM
The old dog from Sacho, moi tried by arresting and torturing David Ndii at Nyayo house but the man never cracked.  Dr. Ndii affinity to justice, fairness and loyalty to the cause is second to none.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kichwa on December 04, 2017, 09:24:08 PM
I am a little worried for Dr. Ndii because he is one of a very few people in this world who will probably  not crack under torture  and they may therefore decide to eliminate him hoping that his death will not cause a huge public uproar because he  currently belongs to minority tribe called Kenyans.

The old dog from Sacho, moi tried by arresting and torturing David Ndii at Nyayo house but the man never cracked.  Dr. Ndii affinity to justice, fairness and loyalty to the cause is second to none.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: GeeMail on December 04, 2017, 09:35:47 PM
Things are bad enough already. Why provoke chaos by arresting Ndii?
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kichwa on December 04, 2017, 09:49:04 PM
Ruto thinks he is running marathon against one person-namely Raila.  What he does not realize is that he is running against a movement with numerous members, some who are not even born yet. He cannot win this race. Nobody on this side is scared of Ouru and Ruto anymore.  He thought the movement would die when Ouru was sworn in but its getting stronger, now he thinks that if he charges Raila with treason then the movement will be over-it will only get stronger.  This is not Moi days when he had all the prosecutors and Judges wrapped around his fingers.  Ouru and Ruto do not decide whether someone is guilty of treason and they cannot intimidate all the judges to send Raila to the gallows.  NASA lawyers are very much aware of the facts required to establish each legal element of treason and the burden of proof is with the state. The country will literally come to a standstill politically and economically for that epic trial. We welcome it.

Ruto I doubt is as impatient as Uhuru. Ruto believes in war of attrition with his opponent and wearing them down....marathon wise. Uhuru simply has not time or patience for nonsense and will not hesistate to use his money or positon to extra-judicial sought stuff out. Uhuru is kid of privilege. He has no time for pain or patience. His entire life he wants something  - he gets it.

Ruto Knows he has to work harder and longer than the privelege or  entrenched competitors. Uhuru has never had to work for anything. He wants something he gets it. That is why when he doesn't get it - he bust into public tantrum. Uhuru has no qualms making the money works for him. He doesn't care about details. He has had top-notch professionals all his life working for him.

Ndii and the wife having worked with these criminals know that they will not give him a lollipop. It is going to get darker for anybody on Ruto's 2022 plan. He doesn't care the size of the hole he digs whether it is outside his doorstep. Only a naive person is surprised of the extent they will be digging.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: RV Pundit on December 04, 2017, 10:15:10 PM
Kichwa Ruto understands beyond all the smoke screen is Raila busy remaking himself for 2022 and he knows his strongest opponent will be Raila.The rest dont understand.They imagine Raila is about to drop his ambition and retire.Therefore Ruto is not taking his balls off Raila.Ndii is a fool that gov machinery deals with as matter of routine.I have seen many fools who think Ruto is coming too hard on Raila and yet this war is Uhuru.Uhuru won pork in 02...he has tonnes of money and gema just needed to see viable coalituon.You cannot beat such combination easily. Raila knows he cannot beat Uhuru.This epic war is for 2022 and Raila is going to face his waterloo against arguably the most talented politician
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: bryan275 on December 04, 2017, 11:14:38 PM
I am a little worried for Dr. Ndii because he is one of a very few people in this world who will probably  not crack under torture  and they may therefore decide to eliminate him hoping that his death will not cause a huge public uproar because he  currently belongs to minority tribe called Kenyans.

The old dog from Sacho, moi tried by arresting and torturing David Ndii at Nyayo house but the man never cracked.  Dr. Ndii affinity to justice, fairness and loyalty to the cause is second to none.

The electoral fraudsters are running scared.  A very dangerous place to be.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kichwa on December 05, 2017, 12:19:49 AM
They thought that by swearing in Ouru, NASA will have no choice but to accept and move on. Now that NASA has refused to neither accept nor move on, they do not know what to do. While they are  still thinking of the physical secession, we have already seceded psychologically.  We are now two countries and what ouruto says or do does not matter to NASA any more because NASA does not recognize them as their leaders. They only planned on how to steal elections and thought everything else would fall into place once the elections were effectively stolen and the supreme court judges scared to death. Now they have to go back to the drawing board and figure out how to deal with the part of the country who refuses to accept stolen elections and to move on.

I am a little worried for Dr. Ndii because he is one of a very few people in this world who will probably  not crack under torture  and they may therefore decide to eliminate him hoping that his death will not cause a huge public uproar because he  currently belongs to minority tribe called Kenyans.

The old dog from Sacho, moi tried by arresting and torturing David Ndii at Nyayo house but the man never cracked.  Dr. Ndii affinity to justice, fairness and loyalty to the cause is second to none.

The electoral fraudsters are running scared.  A very dangerous place to be.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 05, 2017, 12:58:36 AM
IF David Ndii had a cell phone under custody he might as well dispose it or give it a way.  Am sure they have planted bugs on his phone. One thing Kenyans do not know even when your phone is off there capabilities to remotely turn it on and use the microphone to listen to your conversation.  All NASA senior members who have been placed in detention and left their phones with the police should discard those phones and get new ones. NASA politicians turn off the phone and use couriers service or third parties phone until you swear in Raila. 
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: bryan275 on December 05, 2017, 06:09:49 AM
IF David Ndii had a cell phone under custody he might as well dispose it or give it a way.  Am sure they have planted bugs on his phone. One thing Kenyans do not know even when your phone is off there capabilities to remotely turn it on and use the microphone to listen to your conversation.  All NASA senior members who have been placed in detention and left their phones with the police should discard those phones and get new ones. NASA politicians turn off the phone and use couriers service or third parties phone until you swear in Raila. 

I'm pretty sure that the nasa security team has briefed them about the her tactics.  I was worried about Ndiis computers until I heard abound Mwende Gatabakis profession. 

The thieving bastards didn't expect the noise that came from the nasa crew, especially the guy's wife.  Things got so tough that the DPP had to take one for the team.  Lol thickos.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kichwa on December 05, 2017, 06:28:53 AM
If they were testing waters for the 12th then they also gave NASA the opportunity to deep their feet in the  water.  Those charges are so frivolous that they should have waited for Ndii to come back to NBO, book him and send him home in his own recognizance. All that drama was really unnecessary for this silly charge.

IF David Ndii had a cell phone under custody he might as well dispose it or give it a way.  Am sure they have planted bugs on his phone. One thing Kenyans do not know even when your phone is off there capabilities to remotely turn it on and use the microphone to listen to your conversation.  All NASA senior members who have been placed in detention and left their phones with the police should discard those phones and get new ones. NASA politicians turn off the phone and use couriers service or third parties phone until you swear in Raila. 

I'm pretty sure that the nasa security team has briefed them about the her tactics.  I was worried about Ndiis computers until I heard abound Mwende Gatabakis profession. 

The thieving bastards didn't expect the noise that came from the nasa crew, especially the guy's wife.  Things got so tough that the DPP had to take one for the team.  Lol thickos.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: vooke on December 05, 2017, 12:05:26 PM
Kichwa,
The clearest indicator that swearing Baba in is shiet was Herman Manyora. The sleek NASWA sympathizer was quite clear

Then today I watched in disbelief as the otherwise sober NASWA Otiende Amollo stammer over the swearing-in on #AMLiveNTV.

Ninja simply refused to comment on the event/ceremony claiming he’s not part of the committee so he is in the dark. Obviously he is conflicted.

And it got me thinking that the swearing in is baiting Jubilee to shed blood and milk it dry.

The swearing in was supposed to be on 28th in Jacaranda. I drove around NBO and was surprised at how empty the streets were. Negroes kept off perhaps imagining there would be running battles so the roads were clear. I think a significant chunk of Babu woke up from their stupor and the reality of whatever went down at Kasarani hit them. They knew it’s over. Then Baba failed to swear himself in and he crushed their hopes.

I’m not saying Babu should sleep or retire, but his swearing in is psychotic. Your top dogs are increasingly finding it indefensible,your own supporters are woke, and you have already disappointed them once.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: RV Pundit on December 05, 2017, 12:18:17 PM
I don't think the police will allow them to swear themselves in; they may have to do it Besigye style in some dungeon.And then what after that? Raila would have become PORK :) They are walking a very tight rope because treason is serious business.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 05, 2017, 04:48:40 PM
Kichwa,
The clearest indicator that swearing Baba in is shiet was Herman Manyora. The sleek NASWA sympathizer was quite clear

Then today I watched in disbelief as the otherwise sober NASWA Otiende Amollo stammer over the swearing-in on #AMLiveNTV.

Ninja simply refused to comment on the event/ceremony claiming he’s not part of the committee so he is in the dark. Obviously he is conflicted.

And it got me thinking that the swearing in is baiting Jubilee to shed blood and milk it dry.

The swearing in was supposed to be on 28th in Jacaranda. I drove around NBO and was surprised at how empty the streets were. Negroes kept off perhaps imagining there would be running battles so the roads were clear. I think a significant chunk of Babu woke up from their stupor and the reality of whatever went down at Kasarani hit them. They knew it’s over. Then Baba failed to swear himself in and he crushed their hopes.

I’m not saying Babu should sleep or retire, but his swearing in is psychotic. Your top dogs are increasingly finding it indefensible,your own supporters are woke, and you have already disappointed them once.

It's a weird watching folks trying to justify things on the basis of law.  Stealing elections, intimidating judges, etc, are illegal even treasonous.  But here we are.  The pretense that one group is law abiding is just that.  A charade.  The reality is more about who makes their version of the truth stick.  At this point it looks like the jubilant has the inner lane.  But nothing(except might) should prevent Raila or anyone else for that matter from creating their version.  The back and forth references to law is nonsense.  Democracy died August 8th.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kichwa on December 05, 2017, 05:00:41 PM
Pastor,  Kenyans are very polarized politically at this time and even the political watering holes are now highly segregated.  All I can tell you is that swearing in is very popular with the NASARITES and it  just has to be done just like Jubilee wanted ouru to be sworn in.  Once Raila is sworn in then he can have a dialogue with Ouru on electoral justice. If Ouru refuses to talk about a complete overhaul of the electoral system then there will be no talk.  NASARITES do not want nusu mkate of any kind and they will not accept and move on until the electoral reforms are made. If Jubilee think they will wear NASA out then they are wasting their time because NASA has nothing to lose and will keep agitating until they achieve tangible results.

Kichwa,
The clearest indicator that swearing Baba in is shiet was Herman Manyora. The sleek NASWA sympathizer was quite clear

Then today I watched in disbelief as the otherwise sober NASWA Otiende Amollo stammer over the swearing-in on #AMLiveNTV.

Ninja simply refused to comment on the event/ceremony claiming he’s not part of the committee so he is in the dark. Obviously he is conflicted.

And it got me thinking that the swearing in is baiting Jubilee to shed blood and milk it dry.

The swearing in was supposed to be on 28th in Jacaranda. I drove around NBO and was surprised at how empty the streets were. Negroes kept off perhaps imagining there would be running battles so the roads were clear. I think a significant chunk of Babu woke up from their stupor and the reality of whatever went down at Kasarani hit them. They knew it’s over. Then Baba failed to swear himself in and he crushed their hopes.

I’m not saying Babu should sleep or retire, but his swearing in is psychotic. Your top dogs are increasingly finding it indefensible,your own supporters are woke, and you have already disappointed them once.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kichwa on December 05, 2017, 05:04:31 PM
We have a lot of time to swear Raila in.  If the police use force to scuttle the December 12th swearing in then we will do it another day and another day until its finally done.  I think the sooner its done the better for everybody.

I don't think the police will allow them to swear themselves in; they may have to do it Besigye style in some dungeon.And then what after that? Raila would have become PORK :) They are walking a very tight rope because treason is serious business.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kichwa on December 05, 2017, 05:12:27 PM

Kichwa,
The clearest indicator that swearing Baba in is shiet was Herman Manyora. The sleek NASWA sympathizer was quite clear

Then today I watched in disbelief as the otherwise sober NASWA Otiende Amollo stammer over the swearing-in on #AMLiveNTV.

Ninja simply refused to comment on the event/ceremony claiming he’s not part of the committee so he is in the dark. Obviously he is conflicted.

And it got me thinking that the swearing in is baiting Jubilee to shed blood and milk it dry.

The swearing in was supposed to be on 28th in Jacaranda. I drove around NBO and was surprised at how empty the streets were. Negroes kept off perhaps imagining there would be running battles so the roads were clear. I think a significant chunk of Babu woke up from their stupor and the reality of whatever went down at Kasarani hit them. They knew it’s over. Then Baba failed to swear himself in and he crushed their hopes.

I’m not saying Babu should sleep or retire, but his swearing in is psychotic. Your top dogs are increasingly finding it indefensible,your own supporters are woke, and you have already disappointed them once.

It's a weird watching folks trying to justify things on the basis of law.  Stealing elections, intimidating judges, etc, are illegal even treasonous.  But here we are.  The pretense that one group is law abiding is just that.  A charade.  The reality is more about who makes their version of the truth stick.  At this point it looks like the jubilant has the inner lane.  But nothing(except might) should prevent Raila or anyone else for that matter from creating their version.  The back and forth references to law is nonsense.  Democracy died August 8th.

My very sentiments.  Kisungu mingi for nothing. Ouru's government is as fake as a fake plant in an office building and folks are trying to water it and prune it as if it were real.  What I find amazing is NASA laity understands this more clearly than the lawyers on TV trying to act as if this was a legitimate government which deserves the legal protections of the constitution.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kichwa on December 05, 2017, 05:21:11 PM

Ruto does not have a clue about what 2022 will bring and I do not think you are privy to his thoughts.  The obsession with Raila is more like you talking than Ruto talking.

Kichwa Ruto understands beyond all the smoke screen is Raila busy remaking himself for 2022 and he knows his strongest opponent will be Raila.The rest dont understand.They imagine Raila is about to drop his ambition and retire.Therefore Ruto is not taking his balls off Raila.Ndii is a fool that gov machinery deals with as matter of routine.I have seen many fools who think Ruto is coming too hard on Raila and yet this war is Uhuru.Uhuru won pork in 02...he has tonnes of money and gema just needed to see viable coalituon.You cannot beat such combination easily. Raila knows he cannot beat Uhuru.This epic war is for 2022 and Raila is going to face his waterloo against arguably the most talented politician
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 05, 2017, 05:45:34 PM

It's a weird watching folks trying to justify things on the basis of law.  Stealing elections, intimidating judges, etc, are illegal even treasonous.  But here we are.  The pretense that one group is law abiding is just that.  A charade.  The reality is more about who makes their version of the truth stick.  At this point it looks like the jubilant has the inner lane.  But nothing(except might) should prevent Raila or anyone else for that matter from creating their version.  The back and forth references to law is nonsense.  Democracy died August 8th.

My very sentiments.  Kisungu mingi for nothing. Ouru's government is as fake as a fake plant in an office building and folks are trying to water it and prune it as if it were real.  What I find amazing is NASA laity understands this more clearly than the lawyers on TV trying to act as if this was a legitimate government which deserves the legal protections of the constitution.


The jubilant and his previous analogues have basically managed to cobble up legitimacy through abuse of machinery of state.  Machinery of state is used as a substitute for consent of the people.  The commissioner made this declaration, the court ruled that way, the chief justice swore the leader in etc.  Regardless of the circumstances, they(and to an extent the oppressed) have always taken this as a lawful outcome. 

Under normal circumstances that is the correct view.  But the idea being that you can break any laws, as long as the machinery of state absolves you is what is problematic.  It is just a version of the might is right mantra.  I think this is the legacy that NASA has to dismantle.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: bryan275 on December 05, 2017, 06:00:39 PM

It's a weird watching folks trying to justify things on the basis of law.  Stealing elections, intimidating judges, etc, are illegal even treasonous.  But here we are.  The pretense that one group is law abiding is just that.  A charade.  The reality is more about who makes their version of the truth stick.  At this point it looks like the jubilant has the inner lane.  But nothing(except might) should prevent Raila or anyone else for that matter from creating their version.  The back and forth references to law is nonsense.  Democracy died August 8th.

My very sentiments.  Kisungu mingi for nothing. Ouru's government is as fake as a fake plant in an office building and folks are trying to water it and prune it as if it were real.  What I find amazing is NASA laity understands this more clearly than the lawyers on TV trying to act as if this was a legitimate government which deserves the legal protections of the constitution.


The jubilant and his previous analogues have basically managed to cobble up legitimacy through abuse of machinery of state.  Machinery of state is used as a substitute for consent of the people.  The commissioner made this declaration, the court ruled that way, the chief justice swore the leader in etc.  Regardless of the circumstances, they(and to an extent the oppressed) have always taken this as a lawful outcome. 

Under normal circumstances that is the correct view.  But the idea being that you can break any laws, as long as the machinery of state absolves you is what is problematic.  It is just a version of the might is right mantra.  I think this is the legacy that NASA has to dismantle.



Quite.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 05, 2017, 08:10:36 PM
we are dealing with a fruit of the poisonous tree and no matter how legally or constitutionally they try to defend it will not work. The source (the "tree") of the presidential election /IEBC itself is tainted, then anything gained (the "fruit") from it is tainted as well.

Quote from: Vintage Windy City Assassin

It's a weird watching folks trying to justify things on the basis of law.  Stealing elections, intimidating judges, etc, are illegal even treasonous.  But here we are.  The pretense that one group is law abiding is just that.  A charade.  The reality is more about who makes their version of the truth stick.  At this point it looks like the jubilant has the inner lane.  But nothing(except might) should prevent Raila or anyone else for that matter from creating their version.  The back and forth references to law is nonsense.  Democracy died August 8th.
Title: Re: David Ndii whereabouts unknown
Post by: patel on December 05, 2017, 08:32:20 PM
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“Mugabe was sworn in, the people removed him. Kibaki was sworn in the  people rejected him. That's why we are back to the People's Assembly.  Egypt shall tell you more. We refuse dialogue at the expense of electoral justice..............the opposition is prepared to do everything it takes to attain electoral justice in Kenya. From peace to pieces. Ballot to bullet. Poll to pain. We shall pay the price. From the rouge police to ethnic profiling. We were all Kenyans until the Jubilee classified us" - David Ndii