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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Kadudu on November 30, 2017, 05:51:05 PM

Title: Father of suspects in Sh52 million KCB Thika heist says it is normal
Post by: Kadudu on November 30, 2017, 05:51:05 PM
What an honest man. :D :D :D :D

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“How do you tell your children not to do these things when senior government officials engage in blatant theft and get away with it?”

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Thika-KCB-heist-Suspects-father-speaks-out/1056-4208696-l0ego0/index.html
Title: Re: Father of suspects in Sh52 million KCB Thika heist says it is normal
Post by: Empedocles on November 30, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
It's too sadly true. I recall a poll which shocked the country early last year (we then quickly forgot about it).


And more here:

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Survey: Kenyan youth okay with getting rich through corruption (https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000188557/survey-kenyan-youth-okay-with-getting-rich-through-corruption)

Majority of youth have no problem amassing wealth through evading tax evasion and corruption as long as they do not get prosecuted, a new report has revealed.

A new report commissioned by the East African Institute (EAI), the Kenya Youth Survey Report, revealed that 50 per cent of youth in Kenya do not care what means one uses to make money as long as they do not end up in jail.

This was anchored by 30 per cent who exuded the belief that corruption is profitable with 35 percent ready to give or receive a bribe. Only 40 percent of the polled strongly believed that it was important to pay taxes.

A similar situation was displayed in the political arena where 62 percent of youth were noted to be vulnerable to electoral bribery with 40 per cent confessing that they would only vote for aspirants who bribe them, which was exhibited more in the rural area.

"More rural women, compared to urban would vote for the person who bribed them. Rural males were also twice more likely to vote for the candidate who paid them compared to their urban counterparts," read the report in part.

These statistics however contradicted the high level of faith anchored values that 85 percent of the youth possessed.

Despite wealth coming third in values among the youth after faith, family (60 per cent) and work (30 per cent), most youth were still willing to compromise their integrity based on their faith to justify their deeds as it was put Dr Alex Owiti Director EAI.

"These are the people being recruited in public offices, counties police force. What then odes it mean to the fight against corruption? Where are the spaces of integrity for us to carry out clean business?" he noted. "It is like they use their strong faith to justify that they are right keeping the in their involvement."

Noting the contradiction, Inuka Kenya boss John Githongo said the report shows exactly how the younger generation is emulating from their older counterparts. "They have seen how our systems work where people steal and nothing happens to them beyond prosecution so nothing will happen to them either. It is just gimmicking that it is fighting corruption," he noted.

Acting Director General Vision 2030 Gituro Wainaina shared the same thoughts: "This report cuts across every demographics in the country. We have tendencies of praising corrupt individuals hence let us not blame the youth for propagating it."

The sample size of the survey was 1860 and was conducted in Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda and Tanzania. It was conducted between 2014-2015.

Title: Re: Father of suspects in Sh52 million KCB Thika heist says it is normal
Post by: MOON Ki on November 30, 2017, 06:48:25 PM
Man has a point.   People are walking into bank basements and walking out with gunias full of cash, but we expect our youth to spend their days earning peanuts to make sufurias from scrap metal.   

On that article from Empedocles: It's going to be really, really hard to change things.   Not when "leaders" keep issuing "stern" warnings and then it is back to business as usual.   
Title: Re: Father of suspects in Sh52 million KCB Thika heist says it is normal
Post by: bryan275 on November 30, 2017, 08:10:44 PM
Man has a point.   People are walking into bank basements and walking out with gunias full of cash, but we expect our youth to spend their days earning peanuts to make sufurias from scrap metal.   

On that article from Empedocles: It's going to be really, really hard to change things.   Not when "leaders" keep issuing "stern" warnings and then it is back to business as usual.   


Exactly, the thieving bastards have offered the examples and in some cases ideas.  Very sad.
Title: Re: Father of suspects in Sh52 million KCB Thika heist says it is normal
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on November 30, 2017, 09:27:14 PM
Man has a point.   People are walking into bank basements and walking out with gunias full of cash, but we expect our youth to spend their days earning peanuts to make sufurias from scrap metal.   

On that article from Empedocles: It's going to be really, really hard to change things.   Not when "leaders" keep issuing "stern" warnings and then it is back to business as usual.   


Exactly, the thieving bastards have offered the examples and in some cases ideas.  Very sad.

Go easy on the matusi there.  These are resourceful young trailblazers.

That aside, is there anyone who seriously believes this was not an inside job?  If you have seen a 30 meter hole, it's not child's play.
Title: Re: Father of suspects in Sh52 million KCB Thika heist says it is normal
Post by: MOON Ki on November 30, 2017, 09:45:24 PM
Go easy on the matusi there.  These are resourceful young trailblazers.

That aside, is there anyone who seriously believes this was not an inside job?  If you have seen a 30 meter hole, it's not child's play.

It was certainly a "neat" idea and very much in keeping with the times we are in ... just another version of going underneath the bank and walking away with gunias full of cash.   Also, no violence or threats of violence seen to have been involved; and the  bank most likely has insurance for the loss.   

Other than the length of the tunnel, one would need a good idea of where the vault is, some knowledge that the floor underneath was not six feet of concrete, etc.