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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on September 24, 2014, 12:29:33 PM

Title: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: Omollo on September 24, 2014, 12:29:33 PM
Bwana Kimaiyo

This is how it is done:

1. For a lifestyle check to be effective, the target(s) cannot know about it;
2. A separate unit within or outside the force is given the task
3. Prior to that a standard - comprising of "norms" is established and this is used to detect deviations;

 
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Police Inspector General David Kimaiyo has ordered police commanders to do a lifestyle audit on officers working under them to check corruption.

The police boss challenged all commanders at all levels to take upon themselves to understand the conduct and character of the officers they supervise.

Speaking during a meeting with Administration Police commanders at a Mombasa hotel, Mr Kimaiyo said commanders will be answerable for the conduct and actions of their teams.

“I expect you to make reports on officers who appear to be living far beyond their own means for the necessary action to be taken because such characters are the one involved in crime and each officer must be able to account for his lifestyle,” he said.

He said there was no shoot-to-kill order anywhere in the country, and officers should use their firearm appropriately and not endanger life of Kenyans.

He ordered the arrest of all officers involved in the Makueni gun drama on Tuesday where five people, including a policeman, were injured.

Mr Kimaiyo said investigations on the incident had started and ordered the arrest of all officers involved in the shooting

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/-/1056/2463722/-/15hdr9c/-/index.html
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: Nuff Sed on September 24, 2014, 12:37:39 PM
Meanwhile he should join us in worrying about Ndia copycat attacks on police.

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000083537/-news-round-up-a-man-shot-dead-after-attacking-a-police-officer-with-a-panga

As if that is not enough violence for one day, here in Nairobi a man was shot dead earlier today, after he invaded the central police station and attacked a police officer with a panga.
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: RV Pundit on September 24, 2014, 12:39:43 PM
What about a similar unit like military police in KDF.
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: Omollo on September 24, 2014, 12:45:06 PM
As long as EJK is being promoted, attacks on police will grow in magnitude, intensity and ferocity. In some countries where EJK sparked off retaliation against the police, you can hardly find a single young man or woman applying to join the police force. Look at Mexico with all the high unemployment yet there are thousands of vacant police jobs in every county.

Argentina, Chile and Guatemala only recently started seeing the Police Force become attractive again.
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: Gumzo on September 24, 2014, 12:45:43 PM
Bwana Kimaiyo


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Police Inspector General David Kimaiyo has ordered police commanders to do a lifestyle audit on officers working under them to check corruption.

The police boss challenged all commanders at all levels to take upon themselves to understand the conduct and character of the officers they supervise.

Speaking during a meeting with Administration Police commanders at a Mombasa hotel, Mr Kimaiyo said commanders will be answerable for the conduct and actions of their teams.

I expect you to make reports on officers who appear to be living far beyond their own means for the necessary action to be taken because such characters are the one involved in crime and each officer must be able to account for his lifestyle,” he said.

He said there was no shoot-to-kill order anywhere in the country, and officers should use their firearm appropriately and not endanger life of Kenyans.

He ordered the arrest of all officers involved in the Makueni gun drama on Tuesday where five people, including a policeman, were injured.

Mr Kimaiyo said investigations on the incident had started and ordered the arrest of all officers involved in the shooting

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/-/1056/2463722/-/15hdr9c/-/index.html

Almost all those commanders he is ordering  are themselves living beyond their means from corruption money that comes to them from the very junior officers they are supposed to audit
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: Omollo on September 24, 2014, 12:47:35 PM
What about a similar unit like military police in KDF.
It's usually compromised. It must be cleaned up before. Plus the KDF MP is limited to petty crime such as drunkenness and internal discipline arising from minor violations.

It has no teeth to go after corruption which as you stated is ring-fenced within the military.
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: Gumzo on September 24, 2014, 01:00:10 PM
What about a similar unit like military police in KDF.
It's usually compromised. It must be cleaned up before. Plus the KDF MP is limited to petty crime such as drunkenness and internal discipline arising from minor violations.

It has no teeth to go after corruption which as you stated is ring-fenced within the military.

another unit like KDF MP within kenya police would simply create another layer of corruption
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: sitting bull on September 24, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
poor kimaiyo...he should have remained at kenya national focal point on small arms & light weapons. .. where all.he did was seminars then.once a year burn afew guns. He is too polite a guy for IG. and his faith won't allow him to be otherwise
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: Olekoima on September 24, 2014, 02:12:54 PM
Bwana Kimaiyo

This is how it is done:

1. For a lifestyle check to be effective, the target(s) cannot know about it;
2. A separate unit within or outside the force is given the task
3. Prior to that a standard - comprising of "norms" is established and this is used to detect deviations;

 
Quote
Police Inspector General David Kimaiyo has ordered police commanders to do a lifestyle audit on officers working under them to check corruption.

The police boss challenged all commanders at all levels to take upon themselves to understand the conduct and character of the officers they supervise.

Speaking during a meeting with Administration Police commanders at a Mombasa hotel, Mr Kimaiyo said commanders will be answerable for the conduct and actions of their teams.

“I expect you to make reports on officers who appear to be living far beyond their own means for the necessary action to be taken because such characters are the one involved in crime and each officer must be able to account for his lifestyle,” he said.

He said there was no shoot-to-kill order anywhere in the country, and officers should use their firearm appropriately and not endanger life of Kenyans.

He ordered the arrest of all officers involved in the Makueni gun drama on Tuesday where five people, including a policeman, were injured.

Mr Kimaiyo said investigations on the incident had started and ordered the arrest of all officers involved in the shooting

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/-/1056/2463722/-/15hdr9c/-/index.html

Kimaiyo is old school. I don't trust him to change anything.
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: gout on September 25, 2014, 11:27:57 AM
where is kimaiyo heading with this 'prosecute rogue police' chorus....

katitu and makueni cases in point
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: Mintos on September 25, 2014, 01:01:14 PM
heheh this is how you will bring resentment in the force. Ati check on their lifestyles. I'm sure the officers are laughing out loud at this IG. What was his lifestyle when he was first fired from the Force way back in 2008 by Obako? Was he not living well compared to other officers then?

wacha watu wakule bwana. kuna msosi kwa poaching, drugs, etc.
Title: Re: Poor Kimaiyo
Post by: Georgesoros on September 25, 2014, 04:37:26 PM
Easiest thing to do is to pass a law that gives a 20 percent to whatever is recovered from a corruption deal.