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Title: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: vooke on October 29, 2017, 09:52:30 PM
Can’t keep count.

Today we had Babu on SABC

Ruto on Aljazeera


Yesterday it was who,
Ruto on CNN

Manoah Esipisu


Methinks the idea is to woo and win international community support to sanitize their respective positions


Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: bryan275 on October 29, 2017, 10:09:12 PM
Ruto is losing this one as his bald faced lies have left media puzzled.  He's insisting on militia and high turnout, and the clincher, calling himself a law abiding democrat!

This is a man running on pure adrenaline driven by massive panic.  The idiot suggested that kawangware mungiki are Odinga militia.

Ruto is a mad man.  On his last legs.  Whose last cnn interview was actually deleted for its shocking levels of jubilidiot propaganda
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: GeeMail on October 29, 2017, 10:43:33 PM
Great observation about rushing to foreign media. Tells you Ouroto are slowly realizing they are damaged goods out there. The Aljazeera guy seemed quite impatient with Ruto's lies. He should have let him talk a little longer. One of these days he might tell the truth.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: RVtitem on October 29, 2017, 10:45:21 PM
It's staving off support for cessation narrative to prevent support from overseas. Raila need to talk to putin for some sukhoi and S400
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: Kichwa on October 29, 2017, 10:53:32 PM
Ruto is completely out of his element in the international forum.  Mtu wa Hasira should be told how to smile, sit back and be less combative.  From his body language, tone, and naked aggression its not difficult to figure out the one thing that is wrong with Kenya.

Great observation about rushing to foreign media. Tells you Ouroto are slowly realizing they are damaged goods out there. The Aljazeera guy seemed quite impatient with Ruto's lies. He should have let him talk a little longer. One of these days he might tell the truth.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: Nefertiti on October 29, 2017, 11:03:43 PM
Jubilee should let CS Amina Mohamed do her job. Optics.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: vooke on October 29, 2017, 11:06:29 PM
Great observation about rushing to foreign media. Tells you Ouroto are slowly realizing they are damaged goods out there. The Aljazeera guy seemed quite impatient with Ruto's lies. He should have let him talk a little longer. One of these days he might tell the truth.

There was total breakdown in that interview....both ought to have taken breaks break before responding..I
They didn’t and we have overlapping questions,responses,interruptions and rejoinder...not cool
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: bryan275 on October 29, 2017, 11:52:22 PM
Ruto re-interviewed by CNN following the propaganda ridden diatribe from yesterday that was subsequently deleted by CNNi.

Here we go...it took all of 11 seconds before Raila Raila Militia crept in.


This is a man running away from his own shadow.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: patel on October 30, 2017, 05:12:37 AM
Ruto is doing a lot of damage to his political brand. He comes across as arrogant,   controlling and out touch with reality.  His abrasives political style might work in Kenya political arena but international arena it's back firing big time.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: bryan275 on October 30, 2017, 09:20:56 AM
Ruto is doing a lot of damage to his political brand. He comes across as arrogant,   controlling and out touch with reality.  His abrasives political style might work in Kenya political arena but international arena it's back firing big time.


I absolutely love it.  Ruto thinks he's on kass fm.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: RV Pundit on October 30, 2017, 09:21:13 AM
Good job Ruto has done characterizing Raila as rebel leader leading a militia. Now that is bad optics. That counter allegation that police are killing peaceful protestors. Raila himself transformed NASA into NRM - but want to ran away from the violent resistance that his militia armed with stones are leading.

The first CNN interview was pathetic because CNN anchor was bimbo who was not prepared for a brilliant Ruto who roll out numbers,facts and figures with a precision of a surgeon - and they had to get Becky Anderson to handle Ruto.

Raila has nowhere to hide or ran from Ruto - he tries international media - and Ruto is right there - making it even worse for him.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: bryan275 on October 30, 2017, 09:23:10 AM
Good job Ruto has done characterizing Raila as rebel leader leading a militia. Now that is bad optics. The first CNN interview was pathetic because CNN anchor was bimbo who was not prepared for a brilliant Ruto who roll out numbers,facts and figures with a precision of a surgeon - and they had to get Becky Anderson to handle Ruto.

Raila has nowhere to hide or ran from Ruto - he tries international media - and Ruto is right there - making it even worse for him.

You need to retune your TV or change cable suppliers.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: RV Pundit on October 30, 2017, 09:27:48 AM
My tv is just fine - you blinkers need to go - if Ruto did such a bad job you won't be here screaming. The idea of Raila running to international media to cry foul has been counted by facts - he transformed his party into violent resistance wing - and therefore cops are doing a fairly decent job.

Raila continue to have zero leverage.

You need to retune your TV or change cable suppliers.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: vooke on October 30, 2017, 04:26:31 PM
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: vooke on October 31, 2017, 08:16:15 AM
Otiende Amollo v Ngunjiri Wambugu on Al Jazeera

Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: Dear Mami on October 31, 2017, 09:00:42 AM
I saw the Apollo-Ngunjiri debate on Aljazeera. Unlike Ruto's, it was not a disaster. The only thing that stood out to me as irksome was the seconds when Ngunjiri's kiwaru forced him to start the 'my you-know-what is bigger than yours' competition about lawyers. I liked the anchor's quip "Ok, Ok, we get it. You know lawyers". Lol. I was afraid Otiende would follow him to that level and have the debate deteriorate to the level of some Githerimedia tv debates but he ignored it which was good.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: patel on October 31, 2017, 09:01:36 AM
All agree with me it was a bad idea for deputy president to go to international media claiming the country is overun by militia.  If Ruto want to engage international media he should watch and learn from Amollo Otiende body language,  composure and tone.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: Dear Mami on October 31, 2017, 09:11:34 AM
All agree with me it was a bad idea for deputy president to go to international media claiming the country is overun by militia.  If Ruto want to engage international media he should watch and learn from Amollo Otiende body language,  composure and tone.
Everyone knows it's a lie. What that does is show you to be malicious. He could have called them hooligans, thugs or some such term, but he chose to invent something out of a hat that even the diplomatic course would recognize as a dangerous lie. Something like that can make you look like you're just setting people up for a massacre in an area where you are already accused of ethnic profiling, killing a baby and dumping bodies in a lake. The Al-Jazeera host's prompt dismissal showed how easy it is even for a foreigner far away to recognize the lie.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: Dear Mami on October 31, 2017, 09:23:30 AM
Can’t keep count.

Today we had Babu on SABC

Ruto on Aljazeera

Yesterday it was who,

Manoah Esipisu

Methinks the idea is to woo and win international community support to sanitize their respective positions
You missed the first one. It was the one the responses to which began this race for legitimacy in international media. Raila was first interviewed on CNN before SABC.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: vooke on October 31, 2017, 10:03:26 AM
Can’t keep count.

Today we had Babu on SABC

Ruto on Aljazeera

Yesterday it was who,

Manoah Esipisu

Methinks the idea is to woo and win international community support to sanitize their respective positions
You missed the first one. It was the one the responses to which began this race for legitimacy in international media. Raila was first interviewed on CNN before SABC.

I shared that right here last week
http://www.nipate.org/index.php?topic=6154.msg48981#msg48981

What I missed was the second Ruto interview on CNN. I will get it
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: vooke on October 31, 2017, 10:11:12 AM
I saw the Apollo-Ngunjiri debate on Aljazeera. Unlike Ruto's, it was not a disaster. The only thing that stood out to me as irksome was the seconds when Ngunjiri's kiwaru forced him to start the 'my you-know-what is bigger than yours' competition about lawyers. I liked the anchor's quip "Ok, Ok, we get it. You know lawyers". Lol. I was afraid Otiende would follow him to that level and have the debate deteriorate to the level of some Githerimedia tv debates but he ignored it which was good.

To me that was nothing. Rhetoric and barbs can’t be divorced from a political debate.

What I noticed different from Ruto’s was the intervals between question and answer. Here it was much more smooth whereas with Ruto they overlapped and it was annoying listening to both. Could be they used faster internet
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: vooke on October 31, 2017, 11:04:15 AM
I forgot to include Ruto’s second interview on CNN on Saturday evening

Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: RV Pundit on October 31, 2017, 11:05:31 AM
Good interview is where Ruto charecterize NASA as militia - and they have to backpedal that NRM is not violent resistance. The rest are copious amount of saliva. That is what makes Ruto such a great politician. You have to know what to effectively communicate.
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: hk on November 01, 2017, 07:29:23 AM
I don't think attack on journalist will endear nasa to international media http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Nasa-youths-attack-journalists/1056-4163580-yr6fs0z/index.html
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: vooke on November 06, 2017, 07:50:23 AM
Negroes can’t help it
Babu
Ruto

On Aljazeera yesterday
Title: Re: Political Rat Race to Foreign TV Interviews
Post by: vooke on November 09, 2017, 08:34:54 AM
Must have been held on Monday