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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nefertiti on October 23, 2017, 01:36:34 PM

Title: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Nefertiti on October 23, 2017, 01:36:34 PM
British anti-apartheid icon fingers SA presidential candidate and former AU chairperson Dr Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma for corruption. Says she is unfit to rule South Africa.

https://www.biznews.com/global-citizen/2017/10/23/nkosazana-dlamini-zuma/
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Kadudu on October 23, 2017, 01:45:31 PM
Like husband like wife.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Nefertiti on October 23, 2017, 03:49:38 PM
Nothing disappoints more than Jacob Zuma. SA has really degraded since mzungu stepped down - the economy, the roads, the towns, the chaos. Mbeki was much better - Zuma  paints Africans in a very bad light.

Like husband like wife.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Kadudu on October 23, 2017, 04:28:33 PM
Not so much. Atleast he has lovely fat wives. :D :D :D

(https://www.thesouthafrican.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/President-Jacob-Zuma.jpg)

Nothing disappoints more than Jacob Zuma. SA has really degraded since mzungu stepped down - the economy, the roads, the towns, the chaos. Mbeki was much better - Zuma  paints Africans in a very bad light.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Nefertiti on October 23, 2017, 04:53:19 PM
Haha Kadudu. My criticism of the man is not his "culture". Not even his strange belief about HIV. Rather his corruption and incompetence.

You should visit SA... I was there first in 99. Beautiful Joburg. You could walk barefoot. Returned in 2006. Notable difference - dirt creeping in. Disorder - eateries & parking, etc. 2015 - yawwn - dirty everywhere, kiosks, traffic. It's bad even in Sandton now.

Zuma takes my flak on behalf of all other negros. I really agreed with Hellen Zille - Premier of the Western Cape - who praised the benefits of colonialism. Poor woman was almost lynched. Noone bothered to note her province is the best run. She was actually World Mayor of the Year sometime. Cape Town I think is the best run city in Africa.

With their significant white population - SA blacks could be honest with themselves - and allow white oversight of key sectors. So long as they disavow racism. Zille for instance was an anti-apartheid activist who risked her life to oppose black oppression.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Kadudu on October 23, 2017, 05:05:04 PM
I was in Joburg in 93. Place was nice and have not been there ever since but from what I hear and seen things have deteorated. Sometimes our brothers cannot run instituitions. Zuma is a failure and will go down in history as the first African despot to run RSA.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: MOON Ki on October 23, 2017, 05:06:07 PM
Yes, he's not doing too badly.    As for the ladies ... I ranked them by the "enthusiasm" of their smiles and then by the probable frequency of "attention" from the chief ...

Not so much. Atleast he has lovely fat wives. :D :D :D

(https://www.thesouthafrican.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/President-Jacob-Zuma.jpg)
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Georgesoros on October 23, 2017, 06:11:10 PM
Just like Trump, the guy is incompetent. His ego is what gave him the job. After that there is no concrete plan for moving SA into the next centrury.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: gout on October 23, 2017, 06:53:00 PM
SA has to go down under completely for the whites to run away or be chased. Then they can build a black South Africa. Malema will lay a great role if he doesn't get poisoned in some hotels he is frequenting for lectures all over.

Land is the most basic factor of production, with it you can at least feed yourself. Zimbabwe are now recording surplus grain harvests after the land redistribution which we were told was doom for Zimbabwe. Obviously given West interests in SA its fortunes are bleak than Venezuala or Zim, mzungu would rather it be nuked than have blacks own their land and those mines.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Nefertiti on December 19, 2017, 08:33:14 AM
Cyril Ramaphosa edges out Dlamini-Zuma to be the new ANC leader after Jacob.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42403753 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42403753)
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Nefertiti on December 19, 2017, 08:37:11 AM
Life is funny. This man Ramaphosa was tipped to take over from Mandela in his 40s but was outfoxed by Mbeki. He gave politics for business and amassed personal wealth under the black empowerment program. Now he's back at the top 20 years later.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Kadudu on December 19, 2017, 01:30:12 PM
Cyril was Mandela's favourite to suceed him, but the ANC officials would have none of that. Mandela's wish has come to pass. I hope he is more competent than Zuma although more incompetent than Zuma is not easy task to achieve.

Life is funny. This man Ramaphosa was tipped to take over from Mandela in his 40s but was outfoxed by Mbeki. He gave politics for business and amassed personal wealth under the black empowerment program. Now he's back at the top 20 years later.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: RV Pundit on December 19, 2017, 02:01:06 PM
RSA have made wise choice - Zuma and clan wanted to take it the usual African direction.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Georgesoros on December 19, 2017, 03:18:41 PM
I hate corrupt people and their supporters to the extend that given a firing squad, I will not hesitate to fire.
Corruption destroys society, leaving future generations poorer and desperate. Zuma is one of the worst of modern Africa.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Nefertiti on December 21, 2017, 11:14:20 AM
Watching the ANC 54th quinquennial conference. One can only wish Kenya's democracy was that mature. National issues are well canvassed and addressed by specialist committees of delegates and experts. They seem to be quite careful about the "economic transformation" - a PC phrase for redistribution of land and wealth. Most seem favor progressive affirmative action coupled with social security or welfare. Apartheid is a real hangover but they learned hard lessons from the Zim catastrophe. However on Trump and Israel over the Jerusalem conundrum they went full gung-ho and demoted the SA embassy to a "liaison office". They see Israel as an apartheid government and are not bothered with the facts.

Anyway going by Ramaphosa's flowery words on Comrade Zuma I don't see a Mbeki-style eviction playing out.

Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 21, 2017, 07:02:04 PM
How did Ramaphosa make his money?
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Nefertiti on December 22, 2017, 12:25:52 AM
How did Ramaphosa make his money?

The Black Economic Empowerment program has benefited black elites disproportionately. Cyril is one of those. No mention in corrupt dealings like Zuma and the Guptas.
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Georgesoros on December 22, 2017, 06:19:53 PM
How did Ramaphosa make his money?

The Black Economic Empowerment program has benefited black elites disproportionately. Cyril is one of those. No mention in corrupt dealings like Zuma and the Guptas.
Is he as corrupt as Zuma???
Title: Re: Dlamini-Zuma is corrupt - Lord Hain
Post by: Nefertiti on December 23, 2017, 01:12:13 AM
How did Ramaphosa make his money?

The Black Economic Empowerment program has benefited black elites disproportionately. Cyril is one of those. No mention in corrupt dealings like Zuma and the Guptas.
Is he as corrupt as Zuma???

No he's not. Just adept at milking the system.