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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: GeeMail on October 05, 2017, 09:42:35 AM

Title: Pundit on KIEMS kits
Post by: GeeMail on October 05, 2017, 09:42:35 AM
Election petitions are going on in several places to authenticate that many governors, MPs and Women reps were hatched in a vifalangalanga selection. What happens to KIEMS kits before October 26th? I'm supposing petitions require all election materials to be preserved as evidence. Will kits be "partitioned" for fresh presidential elections and the rest left as evidence? Or will IEBC simply buy new ones?
Title: Re: Pundit on KIEMS kits
Post by: RV Pundit on October 05, 2017, 10:12:48 AM
From what I understood - they backed up all KIEMS data -wiped them clean and have re-configured them afresh.  They court require this be kept for 3yrs. So you'll get all the back up of KIEMS data in the cloud. The same case with servers - data will be backed up and servers wiped clean in readiness for new election.

Obviously the gold standard for scrutiny is to open the ballot boxes. Those contains actual votes cast by me and you.

Election petitions are going on in several places to authenticate that many governors, MPs and Women reps were hatched in a vifalangalanga selection. What happens to KIEMS kits before October 26th? I'm supposing petitions require all election materials to be preserved as evidence. Will kits be "partitioned" for fresh presidential elections and the rest left as evidence? Or will IEBC simply buy new ones?
Title: Re: Pundit on KIEMS kits
Post by: Omollo on October 05, 2017, 12:31:09 PM
Strange coming from a IT guru. One of those can be tampered with leaving no trace: the other can also be tampered with but would leave an incriminating trail.

From what I understood - they backed up all KIEMS data -wiped them clean and have re-configured them afresh.  They court require this be kept for 3yrs. So you'll get all the back up of KIEMS data in the cloud. The same case with servers - data will be backed up and servers wiped clean in readiness for new election.

Obviously the gold standard for scrutiny is to open the ballot boxes. Those contains actual votes cast by me and you.
Title: Re: Pundit on KIEMS kits
Post by: bryan275 on October 05, 2017, 12:33:47 PM
Strange coming from a IT guru. One of those can be tampered with leaving no trace: the other can also be tampered with but would leave an incriminating trail.

From what I understood - they backed up all KIEMS data -wiped them clean and have re-configured them afresh.  They court require this be kept for 3yrs. So you'll get all the back up of KIEMS data in the cloud. The same case with servers - data will be backed up and servers wiped clean in readiness for new election.

Obviously the gold standard for scrutiny is to open the ballot boxes. Those contains actual votes cast by me and you.


And that is why they want the kits reconfigured.  Their two bit IT "gurus" have advised for fresh re-installation of the kit OS will erase all dodgy footprints.

We are dealing with accomplished criminals...
Title: Re: Pundit on KIEMS kits
Post by: RV Pundit on October 05, 2017, 01:38:39 PM
Whatever is contained in servers can be easily manipulated - I don't know what IT you know - but the phyiscal ballots with serilaized seals & all those security features - will be hard to pull in 41,000 stations. Otherwise I can change server figures and erase or edit the logs as well....all in few minutes.
Strange coming from a IT guru. One of those can be tampered with leaving no trace: the other can also be tampered with but would leave an incriminating trail.
Title: Re: Pundit on KIEMS kits
Post by: Omollo on October 05, 2017, 02:29:02 PM
Do you need glasses? Or I check if some of the brain cells I recently donated to a jubilee troll are still fresh enough for a quick injection?

Whatever is contained in servers can be easily manipulated - I don't know what IT you know - but the phyiscal ballots with serilaized seals & all those security features - will be hard to pull in 41,000 stations. Otherwise I can change server figures and erase or edit the logs as well....all in few minutes.
Strange coming from a IT guru. One of those can be tampered with leaving no trace: the other can also be tampered with but would leave an incriminating trail.
Title: Re: Pundit on KIEMS kits
Post by: patel on October 05, 2017, 04:32:50 PM
Server can be manipulated right but the server will record date, time, changes made and the person who made those changes.  Would we say the same of ballot stuffing?
I expect better from self anointed 'computer scientist'
Title: Re: Pundit on KIEMS kits
Post by: RV Pundit on October 05, 2017, 05:06:19 PM
Logs are just text files that can be edited.
Server can be manipulated right but the server will record date, time, changes made and the person who made those changes.  Would we say the same of ballot stuffing?
I expect better from self anointed 'computer scientist'
Title: Re: Pundit on KIEMS kits
Post by: Omollo on October 05, 2017, 08:38:50 PM
I am really doubting your IT competence. I'd fire you on the spot if you told me that.

Jubilee would pay you a premium if you could pull that off.

Extracted logs can be edited as Muhati did and the court found the order not complied with..
Logs are just text files that can be edited.
Server can be manipulated right but the server will record date, time, changes made and the person who made those changes.  Would we say the same of ballot stuffing?
I expect better from self anointed 'computer scientist'
Title: Re: Pundit on KIEMS kits
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 05, 2017, 10:38:06 PM
Election petitions are going on in several places to authenticate that many governors, MPs and Women reps were hatched in a vifalangalanga selection. What happens to KIEMS kits before October 26th? I'm supposing petitions require all election materials to be preserved as evidence. Will kits be "partitioned" for fresh presidential elections and the rest left as evidence? Or will IEBC simply buy new ones?

IEBC would love nothing more than to wipe out whatever stuff was on either the kits or the servers.  They certainly don't want you, or the judges for that matter, to know about it.  If SCOK could not get them to cough out information related to this system, I think the lower courts may be out of luck.