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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on September 15, 2017, 02:39:42 PM
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I hear it is now standing at 4 Billion Shillings and rising!
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I hear you credibility is -4B and rising.
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NASA does not really need to campaign. All it needs to do is remind voters that their vote was stolen and that the issues they raised during campaigns will be worse if Jubilee insists on keeping the stolen crown. NGOs have been threatened. Judges have been insulted and tgreatened. Uhuru has all but promised a lifetime presidency using Jubilee numbers in parliament. He will fix Maraga. Turkana had better take notice. Meru have Munya bagged and so does ericho with Rutto. He does not need coast or ukambani.
NASA cannot rest easy but it needs razor focus on IEBC and mnimum reforms. Jubilee is doing half the NASA job by drunken campaigns daily. Reminds everyone who has a point to prove. NASA needs to do a serious set of media messaging maybe its own propaganda wing. Issues like the forced sterilization need to be kept alive.
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I hear it is now standing at 4 Billion Shillings and rising!
This is to be commended. Money can surmount many incumbency advantages Jubilee has leveling the field
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I hear you credibility is -4B and rising.
Feel free to provide an alternative figure. This is the information publicly available on Social Media.
In fact you can ask Chirchir to give you more accurate figures.
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I hear it is now standing at 4 Billion Shillings and rising!
This is to be commended. Money can surmount many incumbency advantages Jubilee has leveling the field
Rumors have it that almost a third was contributed by Jubilee 54% to mock NASA. They were sending 5/- to sindikisa Moses Curiae. Talk of unintended consequences.
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Rumors have it that almost a third was contributed by Jubilee 54% to mock NASA. They were sending 5/- to sindikisa Moses Curiae. Talk of unintended consequences.
Moses Kulia mobilized 800K Uthamakistanis to send 10 bob each with insults to baba: "Laila will never be President"! :D :D :D
By the time they realized their mistake NASA had close to 10M in a few hours
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For NASA money is coming in while for jubilee money is going out..lol the beauty of it all is that now baba can sustain a prolonged campaign against the election thieves. For the record it would also be important for this money to be used prudently and also at the end of campaign provide breakdown of expenditures. Let us strive to be different from jubilee thieves.
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It matters little what NASA does with the money. It has been earned, given freely and from those who won't be fighting each other for lunch at some state lodge. Of course we expect accountability but that is not the point.
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Ouru and Ruto can mock NASA's appeal for people to contribute even 5/- but that is the campaign. This is a revolution to rid this country of leaders like Ouru and Ruto. They represent everything that is wrong with Kenya. They represent tribalism, corruption, dictatorial tendencies, unmitigated tribal arrogance, they represent the two tribes that has somehow assumed proprietary rights over the presidency of Kenya, incompetency, and impunity. This movement will survive this elections. If NASA wins, this elections will make sure NASA returns this country to a truly united democratic country by getting rid of the US style presidency. This must be the last presidential elections if NASA wins-it is too divisive and this country does not need it. In the event that NASA loses a free a fair elections, this movement will continue to rescue this country from these thieves and tribal kingpins. We are not handing over Kenya to these primitive tribalists.
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Point noted.
It matters little what NASA does with the money. It has been earned, given freely and from those who won't be fighting each other for lunch at some state lodge. Of course we expect accountability but that is not the point.
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Ouru and Ruto can mock NASA's appeal for people to contribute even 5/- but that is the campaign. This is a revolution to rid this country of leaders like Ouru and Ruto. They represent everything that is wrong with Kenya. They represent tribalism, corruption, dictatorial tendencies, unmitigated tribal arrogance, they represent the two tribes that has somehow assumed proprietary rights over the presidency of Kenya, incompetency, and impunity. This movement will survive this elections. If NASA wins, this elections will make sure NASA returns this country to a truly united democratic country by getting rid of the US style presidency. This must be the last presidential elections if NASA wins-it is too divisive and this country does not need it. In the event that NASA loses a free a fair elections, this movement will continue to rescue this country from these thieves and tribal kingpins. We are not handing over Kenya to these primitive tribalists.
Agreed. If NASA wins we will change this model that is so unsuitable for an African society with multiple group identities. We must craft something that works for us, not takes our issues and turn them up to eleven. IF WE WIN, Jubilee will co-operate with the change as they will benefit, being out of power. I pray we change this ASAP. Even if we come up with some kind of regional rotational set-up at some level. We are not Americans and should never have tried to pretend we were. People now HATE each other in this country in a very scary way that I never saw when I was small when Moi ruled. We should find a way to make tribe a non-factor once and for all or to factor it in in a way that forces it to be a non-factor.
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It matters little what NASA does with the money. It has been earned, given freely and from those who won't be fighting each other for lunch at some state lodge. Of course we expect accountability but that is not the point.
I disagree. NASA should take care to use that money very responsibly and be above reproach.
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It matters little what NASA does with the money. It has been earned, given freely and from those who won't be fighting each other for lunch at some state lodge. Of course we expect accountability but that is not the point.
I disagree. NASA should take care to use that money very responsibly and be above reproach.
That's ok. As it is NASA is finding ithard to identify a place where campaigns will not amount to preaching to the choir. Maybe future party assets or convert donations to party membership (gold, platinum, bronze). Or use it inhigh end propaganda.
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20m while Omollo is talking 4b.Pathological lies
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Ouru and Ruto can mock NASA's appeal for people to contribute even 5/- but that is the campaign. This is a revolution to rid this country of leaders like Ouru and Ruto. They represent everything that is wrong with Kenya. They represent tribalism, corruption, dictatorial tendencies, unmitigated tribal arrogance, they represent the two tribes that has somehow assumed proprietary rights over the presidency of Kenya, incompetency, and impunity. This movement will survive this elections. If NASA wins, this elections will make sure NASA returns this country to a truly united democratic country by getting rid of the US style presidency. This must be the last presidential elections if NASA wins-it is too divisive and this country does not need it. In the event that NASA loses a free a fair elections, this movement will continue to rescue this country from these thieves and tribal kingpins. We are not handing over Kenya to these primitive tribalists.
Indeed they are the unacceptable faces of Kenyan authorities
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I think Omollo was clearly not referring to the peoples funds drive but to NASA's total purse. The peoples fund strive is part of the change NASA is offering the politics of Kenya. NASA is trying to change the culture of money politics in Kenya which drives corruption. Ruto stole so much money because he needed to buy a lot of people. NASA is doing great because it takes a lot of people contributing 10/- each to reach 20M.
20m while Omollo is talking 4b.Pathological lies
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Omollo of course was referring to lame attempt to raise campaign funds via mpesa.
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I said this would do badly and it is doing badly because of the timing. They snubbed the 10/- since April primaries and settled for dinners.
Next time anyone who wishes to involve raia in their campaign so as to 'own the process' should start early, and account for every coin received.
-NASWA has been accused of collecting over 100M to support striking teachers and they went quiet with that
-Adopt-a-polling-station raised millions just for NASWA to discard the idea at the last minute and ask their candidates to nominate their agents at their expense
That said, I wish they raise some more
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What is doing badly? Nasa do not have the luxury of state resources and eurobond monies.
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What is doing badly? Nasa do not have the luxury of state resources and eurobond monies.
The target donors are not responsive
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What is doing badly? Nasa do not have the luxury of state resources and eurobond monies.
The target donors are not responsive
The target donors are pinned down by shocking poverty thanks to the walanyama...
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Kenyans are used to receiving money from politicians not realizing that they are being bribed and when these people get to power they steal100 times more than they give from the same people. The concept of people giving money to the politicians is a revolution in a country like Kenya and every penny given is a success that others will build on years to come. Changing a political culture is not easy and very few people even try.
What is doing badly? Nasa do not have the luxury of state resources and eurobond monies.
The target donors are not responsive
The target donors are pinned down by shocking poverty thanks to the walanyama...
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Kenyans are used to receiving money from politicians not realizing that they are being bribed and when these people get to power they steal100 times more than they give from the same people. The concept of people giving money to the politicians is a revolution in a country like Kenya and every penny given is a success that others will build on years to come. Changing a political culture is not easy and very few people even try.
What is doing badly? Nasa do not have the luxury of state resources and eurobond monies.
The target donors are not responsive
The target donors are pinned down by shocking poverty thanks to the walanyama...
Yeah, and NASWA have suddenly discovered this.
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Here we go with NUMBERS again argument again. What's important is that the narrative is being changed. Money is beginning to flow from the electorate to the candidate and not the other way round. That is the thing to celebrate. Its going to be along time before this becomes the norm.
I said this would do badly and it is doing badly because of the timing. They snubbed the 10/- since April primaries and settled for dinners.
Next time anyone who wishes to involve raia in their campaign so as to 'own the process' should start early, and account for every coin received.
-NASWA has been accused of collecting over 100M to support striking teachers and they went quiet with that
-Adopt-a-polling-station raised millions just for NASWA to discard the idea at the last minute and ask their candidates to nominate their agents at their expense
That said, I wish they raise some more
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The point Pundit and Vooke are making is that Jubilee have more campaign money stolen from public coffers than NASA can raise from party members. Is that even a comparison?
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The point Pundit and Vooke are making is that Jubilee have more campaign money stolen from public coffers than NASA can raise from party members. Is that even a comparison?
And that is without factoring in what else the AG has yet to discover this year. There is no comparison. Jubilee have the money, as would any kleptocracy.
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And they spend so much money campaigning and buying votes, one wonders why if they truly have a lock on numbers.
The point Pundit and Vooke are making is that Jubilee have more campaign money stolen from public coffers than NASA can raise from party members. Is that even a comparison?
And that is without factoring in what else the AG has yet to discover this year. There is no comparison. Jubilee have the money, as would any kleptocracy.
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Way to go is to limit how much one can raise n spend in a campaign otherwise mama ngina or moi can buy the elections for their kids anytime
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Way to go is to limit how much one can raise n spend in a campaign otherwise mama ngina or moi can buy the elections for their kids anytime
I like the confession.
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It is very hard to pass such a law or even enforce when the same people are in power. You have to find a way to get them out of power first.
Way to go is to limit how much one can raise n spend in a campaign otherwise mama ngina or moi can buy the elections for their kids anytime