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Title: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Omollo on September 14, 2017, 01:44:09 PM
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Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Omollo on September 14, 2017, 01:45:26 PM
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Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: KenyanPlato on September 14, 2017, 01:48:18 PM
ODM should get a battalion and overthrow this thing called Uhuru. Otherwise they should just let him continue as there is no way of stopping him
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Omollo on September 14, 2017, 01:51:30 PM
You can see the workings of a tribal bigot. For instance note that he thinks just naming a Luo or Kamba is by itself a declaration of offence. Mutua Makau is named severally and his actions and tweets are proof of Maraga's offences.
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Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: RV Pundit on September 14, 2017, 02:01:52 PM
Interesting. But I think JSC is tilted towards Maraga camp - with magistrate, high court & scok represenative, maraga & deputy cj, and LSK rep - Uhuru has to find another way
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Omollo on September 14, 2017, 02:07:26 PM
Interesting. But I think JSC is tilted towards Maraga camp - with magistrate, high court & scok represenative, maraga & deputy cj, and LSK rep - Uhuru has to find another way
Another way of doing what? What crime has Maraga committed? You are completely lost. I wonder why you are still here instead of choo where your view are manure.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: RV Pundit on September 14, 2017, 02:11:58 PM
Another way to remove Magara. I know Magara has done good by showing SCOK can overturn election but I believe his decision lacked merit and he ought to be punished for that. I am thinking Uhuru has to somehow force him to resign after he is elected.

And I see you want to kick me out of here. Is Omollosview opened :) I'd make it my home and make it thrive.

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Another way of doing what? What crime has Maraga committed? You are completely lost. I wonder why you are still here instead of choo where your view are manure.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Omollo on September 14, 2017, 02:21:48 PM
When you stand up and say that a Judge should be removed for doing his work then you obviously do not belong here. There are certain minimums that all of us have to respect.

When Gacheche became Kibaki's gate keeper, I criticized her decisions by point at specific aspects of the law she had overlooked, bent or misinterpreted. I had no time for Amos Wako but on his decisions not person. I never advocated for his remval based on right decisions.

So please disagree with Maraga and share with us your specific objections - some which you have pointed out and been answered adequately. But you are here advocating for illegalities while protesting what you deem unfairness. That is choo

I do not run http://www.omollosview.com It is run and managed by some professional team as of two months ago. It will have other writers and volunteers.

I mail my contribution. I don't have time to run it. I am just unhappy that it is now monetized yet I have paid for it for the next five years. Contact them.

Another way to remove Magara. I know Magara has done good by showing SCOK can overturn election but I believe his decision lacked merit and he ought to be punished for that. I am thinking Uhuru has to somehow force him to resign after he is elected.

And I see you want to kick me out of here. Is Omollosview opened :) I'd make it my home and make it thrive.

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Another way of doing what? What crime has Maraga committed? You are completely lost. I wonder why you are still here instead of choo where your view are manure.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: RV Pundit on September 14, 2017, 02:36:03 PM
Such lofty standards you got there. You need to take a breather. I think you're losing it. Magara ought and should be removed after Uhuru win is confirmed. He has caused the economy to bleed more than 100B and GOK to spend 12B over an election everyone knows was free and fair. Clearly he has to go after Uhuru win. I'd prefer he resigns - and if not - I am okay if Jubilee make lives hell for him.
When you stand up and say that a Judge should be removed for doing his work then you obviously do not belong here. There are certain minimums that all of us have to respect.

When Gacheche became Kibaki's gate keeper, I criticized her decisions by point at specific aspects of the law she had overlooked, bent or misinterpreted. I had no time for Amos Wako but on his decisions not person. I never advocated for his remval based on right decisions.

So please disagree with Maraga and share with us your specific objections - some which you have pointed out and been answered adequately. But you are here advocating for illegalities while protesting what you deem unfairness. That is choo

I do not run http://www.omollosview.com It is run and managed by some professional team as of two months ago. It will have other writers and volunteers.

I mail my contribution. I don't have time to run it. I am just unhappy that it is now monetized yet I have paid for it for the next five years. Contact them.

Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Omollo on September 14, 2017, 02:44:48 PM
What do you think NASA should do with Uhuru and Ruto when they are defeated? They stole more than the country bled.

BTW those who rigged the election are responsible for more than the thieves' party at NSE being startled. The cost of the election is on them as well.
Such lofty standards you got there. You need to take a breather. I think you're losing it. Magara ought and should be removed after Uhuru win is confirmed. He has caused the economy to bleed more than 100B and GOK to spend 12B over an election everyone knows was free and fair. Clearly he has to go after Uhuru win. I'd prefer he resigns - and if not - I am okay if Jubilee make lives hell for him.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: RV Pundit on September 14, 2017, 02:54:57 PM
The same fate that will befall magara. The verdict on 17th will confirm what we know.
What do you think NASA should do with Uhuru and Ruto when they are defeated? They stole more than the country bled.

BTW those who rigged the election are responsible for more than the thieves' party at NSE being startled. The cost of the election is on them as well.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: GeeMail on September 14, 2017, 03:06:40 PM
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001254481/treasury-has-borrowed-a-record-sh430-billion-in-four-months

What's Uhuru doing with all this money? I thought RV Pundits confession of 30b from SGR was the last straw.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: bryan275 on September 14, 2017, 03:29:40 PM
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001254481/treasury-has-borrowed-a-record-sh430-billion-in-four-months

What's Uhuru doing with all this money? I thought RV Pundits confession of 30b from SGR was the last straw.

That's whey there's desperation to keep power.  Money, lots of it.

Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: bryan275 on September 14, 2017, 03:33:21 PM
When you stand up and say that a Judge should be removed for doing his work then you obviously do not belong here. There are certain minimums that all of us have to respect.

When Gacheche became Kibaki's gate keeper, I criticized her decisions by point at specific aspects of the law she had overlooked, bent or misinterpreted. I had no time for Amos Wako but on his decisions not person. I never advocated for his remval based on right decisions.

So please disagree with Maraga and share with us your specific objections - some which you have pointed out and been answered adequately. But you are here advocating for illegalities while protesting what you deem unfairness. That is choo

I do not run http://www.omollosview.com It is run and managed by some professional team as of two months ago. It will have other writers and volunteers.

I mail my contribution. I don't have time to run it. I am just unhappy that it is now monetized yet I have paid for it for the next five years. Contact them.

Another way to remove Magara. I know Magara has done good by showing SCOK can overturn election but I believe his decision lacked merit and he ought to be punished for that. I am thinking Uhuru has to somehow force him to resign after he is elected.

And I see you want to kick me out of here. Is Omollosview opened :) I'd make it my home and make it thrive.

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Another way of doing what? What crime has Maraga committed? You are completely lost. I wonder why you are still here instead of choo where your view are manure.

Omollo,

Msando died for doing his job too well.  Maraga must fall for the same.  Luckily for him, he has not met Msando's fate.  Yet.  Jubilidiots are a funny bunch, and the closer we get to the elections the more desperate they get.

I am now convinced 150% that they lack the numbers, the mental muscle and the will to win the coming elections.  Odinga needs to stop playing a gentleman and go all out for these criminals.



Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Omollo on September 14, 2017, 03:54:10 PM
Uhuru is going home.
The same fate that will befall magara. The verdict on 17th will confirm what we know.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Kichwa on September 14, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
RV Pundit lost his soul along time ago.  All he cares about is Ruto's presidency. If you take that away from him then I wonder what he will be left with-Nothing.

Interesting. But I think JSC is tilted towards Maraga camp - with magistrate, high court & scok represenative, maraga & deputy cj, and LSK rep - Uhuru has to find another way
Another way of doing what? What crime has Maraga committed? You are completely lost. I wonder why you are still here instead of choo where your view are manure.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Georgesoros on September 14, 2017, 04:44:33 PM
If you can't have a functioning judiciary then no investor will want to invest in another Venezuela.


RV Pundit lost his soul along time ago.  All he cares about is Ruto's presidency. If you take that away from him then I wonder what he will be left with-Nothing.

Interesting. But I think JSC is tilted towards Maraga camp - with magistrate, high court & scok represenative, maraga & deputy cj, and LSK rep - Uhuru has to find another way
Another way of doing what? What crime has Maraga committed? You are completely lost. I wonder why you are still here instead of choo where your view are manure.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Kichwa on September 14, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
Ouruto's leadership will plunge this country far back into the seventies and eighties, not even the nineties.  I am very glad that there are a new breed of activists being minted by the behavior of these two goons and are gearing up to fight for the democratic space that this country has gained so that we do not go back to those dark days.


If you can't have a functioning judiciary then no investor will want to invest in another Venezuela.


RV Pundit lost his soul along time ago.  All he cares about is Ruto's presidency. If you take that away from him then I wonder what he will be left with-Nothing.

Interesting. But I think JSC is tilted towards Maraga camp - with magistrate, high court & scok represenative, maraga & deputy cj, and LSK rep - Uhuru has to find another way
Another way of doing what? What crime has Maraga committed? You are completely lost. I wonder why you are still here instead of choo where your view are manure.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 14, 2017, 05:34:23 PM
This is where you see the difference between third and first world.  The law.  In the US, even dictator wanna-be Trump can only whine when some judge on some island cripples his executive orders.  The idea that he would go after that judge is crazy even to Donald Trump.  Not in Kenya.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Kadame7 on September 14, 2017, 06:35:20 PM
This is where you see the difference between third and first world.  The law.  In the US, even dictator wanna-be Trump can only whine when some judge on some island cripples his executive orders.  The idea that he would go after that judge is crazy even to Donald Trump.  Not in Kenya.
Its the Jubilants. The rest of us are just amazed. Ati a judge needs to be "punished" for making the "wrong" decision....ata hawana aibu. I really hope one day Pundits and his friends are forced to contend with the consequences of the weak judiciary they desire in their own personal lives. Maybe thats what it takes to sink some fundamental ideas in some people. As it stands, Pundit and friends think this would never affect them.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: patel on September 14, 2017, 06:43:59 PM
Cost of stolen election 500 billions - 1 trillion that's how much those who killed msando and rigged the election should be billed.  Most like chirchir and company should be hanged
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Kichwa on September 14, 2017, 06:51:35 PM

Some of these people are very primitive.  The more civilized one is the more they appreciate the rule of law, and the independence of all branches of government.  Corruptition and tribalism is not only bad for the economy but also makes a mockery of democracy.  When you have a majority of legislatures based on tribalism and bribery, then that is not the concept of majority rule envisioned by the concept of democracy. A majority obtained through corruption, intimidation and bribery is not a majority in the context of democracy. You cannot therefore say that our leaders are democratically elected when they are just a bunch of  happy slaves working for Uhuru and Ruto.

This is where you see the difference between third and first world.  The law.  In the US, even dictator wanna-be Trump can only whine when some judge on some island cripples his executive orders.  The idea that he would go after that judge is crazy even to Donald Trump.  Not in Kenya.
Its the Jubilants. The rest of us are just amazed. Ati a judge needs to be "punished" for making the "wrong" decision....ata hawana aibu. I really hope one day Pundits and his friends are forced to contend with the consequences of the weak judiciary they desire in their own personal lives. Maybe thats what it takes to sink some fundamental ideas in some people. As it stands, Pundit and friends think this would never affect them.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Georgesoros on September 14, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
One thing i have learned is that when you stop fighting, hyenas take over. And lord knows how destructive hyenas are... IN USA democrats stopped fighting for the regular guy giving way to TRUMP...
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Kichwa on September 14, 2017, 08:56:06 PM
I agree. They cannot buy, intimidate, detain or kill everybody. Getting a majority in the parliament through intimidation, bribery, tribalism and stealing elections is the most primitive form of democracy. 

One thing i have learned is that when you stop fighting, hyenas take over. And lord knows how destructive hyenas are... IN USA democrats stopped fighting for the regular guy giving way to TRUMP...
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Omollo on September 14, 2017, 09:21:36 PM
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: vooke on September 15, 2017, 07:57:38 AM
Tribalism has just muddied Maraga's judgement.
He is being shielded by his Tribe and for that may remain untouched for all his failures (real or imagined)

He is no different from politicians who take cover behind their Tribes to avoid persecution. I doubt Maraga is grinning from the turn of events.

If Ngunjiri petition is DOA as NASWA and all Maraga fans claim,they should be more than eager to let it implode instead of prempting it.

Of course it's possible they are only politicizing it to deny Uhunye as many votes as possible in Kisii-Nyamira,but they won't admit as much
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: RV Pundit on September 15, 2017, 08:00:39 AM
I think after election - on 17th - this tribal nonsense will dissipate- and magara ought to be dealt with.
Tribalism has just muddied Maraga's judgement.
He is being shielded by his Tribe and for that may remain untouched for all his failures (real or imagined)
He is no different from politicians who take cover behind their Tribes to avoid persecution. I doubt Maraga is grinning from the turn of events.

If Ngunjiri petition is DOA as NASWA and all Maraga fans claim,they should be more than eager to let it implode.
Title: Re: Desperate Uhuru Revenges Against Chief Justice Who Ruled Against Him
Post by: Kadame7 on September 15, 2017, 08:50:48 AM
Tribalism has just muddied Maraga's judgement.
He is being shielded by his Tribe and for that may remain untouched for all his failures (real or imagined)

He is no different from politicians who take cover behind their Tribes to avoid persecution. I doubt Maraga is grinning from the turn of events.

If Ngunjiri petition is DOA as NASWA and all Maraga fans claim,they should be more than eager to let it implode instead of prempting it.

Of course it's possible they are only politicizing it to deny Uhunye as many votes as possible in Kisii-Nyamira,but they won't admit as much
Please. Jubilee are not politicizing a disfavourable judgment. Those condemning the politicization are the ones politicizing things....my foot. And even better, Maraga is to also be blamed for JUBILEE's politicization of a MAJORITY decision of the SCOK.... Are you serious?

Point out "ALL" Maraga's "failures". Its really sly to just slip that in there and then add (real/imagined) so you dont have to defend a statement like: "shielded from all his failures". Making up stuff doesn't count. Just the list of failures will do, thank you. While at it, could you also provide evidence for Maraga "taking cover" behind his tribe or indeed just "taking cover" AT ALL?

Last, the idea that a judge should not be shielded from a WITCH-HUNT in order to "prove" that there is no merit to this witch-hunt is beyond ABSURD. I mean, habe you SEEN the absurd accusations Ngunjiri is making? Like Maraga unduly influenced the others...was he there in the closed deliberations? Perhaps HE should tell us more?

A judge is a judge is a judge. Even Mutunga. You can critize them all you want but you cant start aiming your gun at them for ruling against you. Even if they make the most stupid decision on earth, like allowing slavery to continue, all you can say is how stupid it is. What you guys are defending with a straight face is bullying and intimidation crossing over to coercion of judicial officers, however much the bias tries to disguise itself as "neutral" commentary.

Jubilee is no different from the mafia sending chilling messages to judges about "consequences" for ruling against them, trying to disabuse them of their delusions of independence. What is surprising though is the cheer leading.