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Title: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 11, 2017, 04:56:39 PM
Means he can now countenance a Raila presidency.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Omollo on September 11, 2017, 05:01:20 PM
I have no idea what Political Science this fella allegedly studied:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=igi6KZ_Qog4
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: RV Pundit on September 11, 2017, 05:05:09 PM
I know you guys are desperate for any validation but the idea of Raila presidency is that ridiculous! Jubilee just need 19 mps for absolute super majority. In senate - Jubilee is short of 3-5 senators. This re-run might give Uhuru the mandate he needs to effect far reaching constitutional changes if he desires.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 11, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
I know you guys are desperate for any validation but the idea of Raila presidency is that ridiculous! Jubilee just need 19 mps for absolute super majority. In senate - Jubilee is short of 3-5 senators. This re-run might give Uhuru the mandate he needs to effect far reaching constitutional changes if he desires.

Actually impeachment talk is a sign of creeping desperation in kamwana.  His confidence has taken a hit from the ruling and he is still recovering.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 11, 2017, 05:17:26 PM
I have no idea what Political Science this fella allegedly studied:

Even he surely knows if Raila wins, the jubilant simply wont have the same draw.  MPs from non-jubilant hard core areas would simply not go along.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: RV Pundit on September 11, 2017, 05:25:04 PM
Uhuru won in 2013& 2017 - and will win in re-run - Uhuru knows it - you know it - it doesn't take rocket science - all it takes is an excel with iebc registered votes- and as long as he has GEMA+Kalenjin - he is more than shoe in. He'd have to score near zero elsewhere to lose.
Actually impeachment talk is a sign of creeping desperation in kamwana.  His confidence has taken a hit from the ruling and he is still recovering.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: vooke on September 11, 2017, 05:51:25 PM
Impeachment is our political equivalent of Haka, but the tyranny obviously scares NASWA and they can't pretend otherwise
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 11, 2017, 06:14:38 PM
Uhuru won in 2013& 2017 - and will win in re-run - Uhuru knows it - you know it - it doesn't take rocket science - all it takes is an excel with iebc registered votes- and as long as he has GEMA+Kalenjin - he is more than shoe in. He'd have to score near zero elsewhere to lose.
Actually impeachment talk is a sign of creeping desperation in kamwana.  His confidence has taken a hit from the ruling and he is still recovering.

I know that he hasn't won in 2017; don't get into a fight with the facts.  He certainly won in 2013 an era when the standard was the end justifies the means.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: RV Pundit on September 11, 2017, 06:20:44 PM
We shall find out in a month time.
I know that he hasn't won in 2017; don't get into a fight with the facts.  He certainly won in 2013 an era when the standard was the end justifies the means.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kichwa on September 11, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
RV Pundit-why is Ouru so stressed-out, issuing threats and boiling with anger or are those signs of withdrawal?  Si he should just be relaxed.

Uhuru won in 2013& 2017 - and will win in re-run - Uhuru knows it - you know it - it doesn't take rocket science - all it takes is an excel with iebc registered votes- and as long as he has GEMA+Kalenjin - he is more than shoe in. He'd have to score near zero elsewhere to lose.
Actually impeachment talk is a sign of creeping desperation in kamwana.  His confidence has taken a hit from the ruling and he is still recovering.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: RV Pundit on September 11, 2017, 06:34:45 PM
Why wouldn't he after his victory was quashed - for mistakes foreign to him. Why would he - when he has to dig deep to engage in campaigns - this will probably set him 20-30B. Why would he when economy has lost 100B. Why would he when IEBC will spend another 10B?

Uhuru is seething every day because like me election should be held tomorrow and we get done with it.

It doesn't take rocket science to know UhuRUto will win BIG.

RV Pundit-why is Ouru so stressed-out, issuing threats and boiling with anger or are those signs of withdrawal?  Si he should just be relaxed.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 11, 2017, 06:52:26 PM
Why wouldn't he after his victory was quashed - for mistakes foreign to him. Why would he - when he has to dig deep to engage in campaigns - this will probably set him 20-30B. Why would he when economy has lost 100B. Why would he when IEBC will spend another 10B?

Uhuru is seething every day because like me election should be held tomorrow and we get done with it.

It doesn't take rocket science to know UhuRUto will win BIG.

RV Pundit-why is Ouru so stressed-out, issuing threats and boiling with anger or are those signs of withdrawal?  Si he should just be relaxed.

He has a right to be pissed.  The right people to direct that anger at are IEBC.  By his own argument, he won, but they bungled his victory by making it unverifiable.  He shouldn't hate Raila, who is only a player.  He should hate the game.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kichwa on September 11, 2017, 07:04:19 PM
Ouru is pissed off because he is used to stealing elections and getting away with it but this time he did not. That's NOT the kind of being pissed off you get a sympathetic ear for.

Why wouldn't he after his victory was quashed - for mistakes foreign to him. Why would he - when he has to dig deep to engage in campaigns - this will probably set him 20-30B. Why would he when economy has lost 100B. Why would he when IEBC will spend another 10B?

Uhuru is seething every day because like me election should be held tomorrow and we get done with it.

It doesn't take rocket science to know UhuRUto will win BIG.

RV Pundit-why is Ouru so stressed-out, issuing threats and boiling with anger or are those signs of withdrawal?  Si he should just be relaxed.

He has a right to be pissed.  The right people to direct that anger at are IEBC.  By his own argument, he won, but they bungled his victory by making it unverifiable.  He shouldn't hate Raila, who is only a player.  He should hate the game.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: patel on September 11, 2017, 07:05:03 PM
Right on point, like I said Uhuru will live to regret accepting low level intelligence rigging where you kill the IT custodian then proceed to rig through IT infrastructure. Now he has to look for money for another round of bribery. Hopefully Tony Blair and co. they will give him discount this time around. Impeachment talk is a sure sign of surrender

Why wouldn't he after his victory was quashed - for mistakes foreign to him. Why would he - when he has to dig deep to engage in campaigns - this will probably set him 20-30B. Why would he when economy has lost 100B. Why would he when IEBC will spend another 10B?

Uhuru is seething every day because like me election should be held tomorrow and we get done with it.

It doesn't take rocket science to know UhuRUto will win BIG.

RV Pundit-why is Ouru so stressed-out, issuing threats and boiling with anger or are those signs of withdrawal?  Si he should just be relaxed.

He has a right to be pissed.  The right people to direct that anger at are IEBC.  By his own argument, he won, but they bungled his victory by making it unverifiable.  He shouldn't hate Raila, who is only a player.  He should hate the game.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: RV Pundit on September 11, 2017, 07:11:50 PM
Uhuru lost in 2002 and conceded. It obvious Uhuru won 2017 and 2013. It obvious he will win again on 17th October. This is not rocket science. This is basic ethnic maths.
Ouru is pissed off because he is used to stealing elections and getting away with it but this time he did not. That's NOT the kind of being pissed off you get a sympathetic ear for.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: patel on September 11, 2017, 07:14:12 PM
This is what happens when you listen to Murconmen and Baghdad bobs advice. steal election, kill few jaluos then its back to normal.....am sure they never saw maranga coming
now they are chocking over stolen presidency. The country is in a constitutional crisis, IEBC coup has failed and if the elections don't take off expect full blown civil war


Ouru is pissed off because he is used to stealing elections and getting away with it but this time he did not. That's NOT the kind of being pissed off you get a sympathetic ear for.

Why wouldn't he after his victory was quashed - for mistakes foreign to him. Why would he - when he has to dig deep to engage in campaigns - this will probably set him 20-30B. Why would he when economy has lost 100B. Why would he when IEBC will spend another 10B?

Uhuru is seething every day because like me election should be held tomorrow and we get done with it.

It doesn't take rocket science to know UhuRUto will win BIG.

RV Pundit-why is Ouru so stressed-out, issuing threats and boiling with anger or are those signs of withdrawal?  Si he should just be relaxed.

He has a right to be pissed.  The right people to direct that anger at are IEBC.  By his own argument, he won, but they bungled his victory by making it unverifiable.  He shouldn't hate Raila, who is only a player.  He should hate the game.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kichwa on September 11, 2017, 07:15:21 PM
Apples and oranges. Ouru lost 2002 and had no choice but to concede.  Raila did not loose 2007, 2013 and 2017. Say something new.

Uhuru lost in 2002 and conceded. It obvious Uhuru won 2017 and 2013. It obvious he will win again on 17th October. This is not rocket science. This is basic ethnic maths.
Ouru is pissed off because he is used to stealing elections and getting away with it but this time he did not. That's NOT the kind of being pissed off you get a sympathetic ear for.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Omollo on September 11, 2017, 07:48:55 PM
Uhuru did NOT win in 2013 and 2017. The court cases prove it. Had the court not relied on technicalities in 2013 the same verdict would have been reached as was this year.

Note that it is disingenuous to keep insisting on contradicting the court when for 5 years you have waved that court's decision on our heads.
 
Uhuru lost in 2002 and conceded. It obvious Uhuru won 2017 and 2013. It obvious he will win again on 17th October. This is not rocket science. This is basic ethnic maths.
Ouru is pissed off because he is used to stealing elections and getting away with it but this time he did not. That's NOT the kind of being pissed off you get a sympathetic ear for.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: RV Pundit on September 11, 2017, 08:18:38 PM
The court didn't tell us Uhuru lost either. In 2013 he won. In 2017 I saying his win will again be validated on 17th. Bila shaka.
Uhuru did NOT win in 2013 and 2017. The court cases prove it. Had the court not relied on technicalities in 2013 the same verdict would have been reached as was this year.

Note that it is disingenuous to keep insisting on contradicting the court when for 5 years you have waved that court's decision on our heads.
 
Uhuru lost in 2002 and conceded. It obvious Uhuru won 2017 and 2013. It obvious he will win again on 17th October. This is not rocket science. This is basic ethnic maths.
Ouru is pissed off because he is used to stealing elections and getting away with it but this time he did not. That's NOT the kind of being pissed off you get a sympathetic ear for.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: vooke on September 11, 2017, 08:31:56 PM
Why wouldn't he after his victory was quashed - for mistakes foreign to him. Why would he - when he has to dig deep to engage in campaigns - this will probably set him 20-30B. Why would he when economy has lost 100B. Why would he when IEBC will spend another 10B?

Uhuru is seething every day because like me election should be held tomorrow and we get done with it.

It doesn't take rocket science to know UhuRUto will win BIG.

RV Pundit-why is Ouru so stressed-out, issuing threats and boiling with anger or are those signs of withdrawal?  Si he should just be relaxed.

He has a right to be pissed.  The right people to direct that anger at are IEBC.  By his own argument, he won, but they bungled his victory by making it unverifiable.  He shouldn't hate Raila, who is only a player.  He should hate the game.
Jubilee is of the view that IEBC for all its failures never deserved invalidation. Explains why he's angry at SCOK and petitioners.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kichwa on September 11, 2017, 08:38:17 PM
Maybe he can now appreciate how angry we were when our votes were stolen both in 2007, 2013 and 2017. He is lucky the court did not find him culpable.  This time if he is planning to steal he better be carefully because he could be found culpable and barred from running again.

Why wouldn't he after his victory was quashed - for mistakes foreign to him. Why would he - when he has to dig deep to engage in campaigns - this will probably set him 20-30B. Why would he when economy has lost 100B. Why would he when IEBC will spend another 10B?

Uhuru is seething every day because like me election should be held tomorrow and we get done with it.

It doesn't take rocket science to know UhuRUto will win BIG.

RV Pundit-why is Ouru so stressed-out, issuing threats and boiling with anger or are those signs of withdrawal?  Si he should just be relaxed.

He has a right to be pissed.  The right people to direct that anger at are IEBC.  By his own argument, he won, but they bungled his victory by making it unverifiable.  He shouldn't hate Raila, who is only a player.  He should hate the game.
Jubilee is of the view that IEBC for all its failures never deserved invalidation. Explains why he's angry at SCOK and petitioners.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: vooke on September 11, 2017, 08:50:24 PM
Maybe he can now appreciate how angry we were when our votes were stolen both in 2007, 2013 and 2017. He is lucky the court did not find him culpable.  This time if he is planning to steal he better be carefully because he could be found culpable and barred from running again.

Why wouldn't he after his victory was quashed - for mistakes foreign to him. Why would he - when he has to dig deep to engage in campaigns - this will probably set him 20-30B. Why would he when economy has lost 100B. Why would he when IEBC will spend another 10B?

Uhuru is seething every day because like me election should be held tomorrow and we get done with it.

It doesn't take rocket science to know UhuRUto will win BIG.

RV Pundit-why is Ouru so stressed-out, issuing threats and boiling with anger or are those signs of withdrawal?  Si he should just be relaxed.

He has a right to be pissed.  The right people to direct that anger at are IEBC.  By his own argument, he won, but they bungled his victory by making it unverifiable.  He shouldn't hate Raila, who is only a player.  He should hate the game.
Jubilee is of the view that IEBC for all its failures never deserved invalidation. Explains why he's angry at SCOK and petitioners.
Uhunye may be angry but I think he is feigning anger to marshal his strongholds to turn out in the same if not more numbers.

But it's not like he has a choice seeing it equally is Babu's campaign slogan
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Omollo on September 11, 2017, 09:28:28 PM
There are two choices:
1. He won
2. He Lost

If he did not win, it follows that he LOST.

How hard is that?
The court didn't tell us Uhuru lost either. In 2013 he won. In 2017 I saying his win will again be validated on 17th. Bila shaka.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 11, 2017, 09:35:11 PM
There are two choices:
1. He won
2. He Lost

If he did not win, it follows that he LOST.

How hard is that?
The court didn't tell us Uhuru lost either. In 2013 he won. In 2017 I saying his win will again be validated on 17th. Bila shaka.

I see it as more of we don't know who won or lost because we can't.  It's closer to the Kriegler type of conclusion.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: GeeMail on September 11, 2017, 09:39:33 PM
Uhuru is showing he is a dangerous demagogue. Talk of impeaching Raila is too premature from a man who the courts declared to be a fraud. He seems to forget we saw his hand when NGO necks were put on the guillotine before he was even sworn in. Added to deaths like Msando's surrounding his pretended victory and open threats to the judiciary, he should have hidden his bloodied daggers until the coast is clear. Now Kenyans must wait for the SCOK ruling and sendHe is now threatening to do a Kagame with an illegitimate parliament. Kenyans will simply insist on a whole new election if he wants to go that direction. No wonder he is sweating threats while NASA sits pretty.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: bryan275 on September 11, 2017, 11:24:58 PM
Uhuru capitulates......
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: bryan275 on September 11, 2017, 11:49:12 PM
Uhuru is annoyed because even by dictatorial  despot standards he's failed the team.  I mean what incumbent despot fails to neuter the judges and all  referees too? This guy has lost his dictatorial badge. 
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kichwa on September 12, 2017, 04:12:52 AM
Also, impeachment must be based on cause and not politics otherwise how will you convince the Senate to remove him. He seems to think that one can be impeached purely for political reasons and removed from office. He is an idiot.

Uhuru is showing he is a dangerous demagogue. Talk of impeaching Raila is too premature from a man who the courts declared to be a fraud. He seems to forget we saw his hand when NGO necks were put on the guillotine before he was even sworn in. Added to deaths like Msando's surrounding his pretended victory and open threats to the judiciary, he should have hidden his bloodied daggers until the coast is clear. Now Kenyans must wait for the SCOK ruling and sendHe is now threatening to do a Kagame with an illegitimate parliament. Kenyans will simply insist on a whole new election if he wants to go that direction. No wonder he is sweating threats while NASA sits pretty.
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Georgesoros on September 12, 2017, 05:58:06 AM
Can JP invalidate the the will of the people?
But given that they are corrupt as hell, am sure they will do it....
Title: Re: Kamwana Talk Of Impeachment
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 12, 2017, 12:14:31 PM
Can JP invalidate the the will of the people?
But given that they are corrupt as hell, am sure they will do it....

I don't doubt they would try to do it, purely for political reasons, if they have the numbers.  They are that crazy.  However those numbers become unreliable when out of power.  I imagine Raila would be as difficult an opponent as there ever was, with the levers of Presidential power on his side.