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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 05:49:06 PM
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http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Residents-were-suspicious-of-Sugoi-home-intruder/1056-4039606-117dx7u/index.html
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Seems like only Baghdad bob is interested in this story. Another Kimetrica psyop operation intended to suppress IEBC ict manager murder....
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He flunked espionage classes. If you're too careful with your cover you stand out
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The Ethnic Rah Media was in place within minutes and even reported the arrival of the GSU etc.
It is the same rag media that reported there were 7 to 15 gunmen inside the compound. The same Rag Media reported that three attackers had been killed.
It authoritatively stated that the man was shooting from a building that was under construction. ( I can back up ALL this on demand).
That is the same Media now saying the Hawker was no hawker!
He could frequent the home of the second most powerful man in Kenya enter and sell goods and no background check was done. He was such a commando on the same scale as Rambo that all he needed was a machete to disarm an elite soldier and keep the entire backup battalion at bay for 18 hours!
Wait a minute... He was killed after six hours but resurrected and continued shooting for another 12 hours before he was finally killed. Or was he? At this rate he may well reappear and keep them shooting for going by logic.. 72 hours.
When a regime has lost credibility, even spinning simple things become a problem. When Tony Ndilinge was murdered and dumped in Githurai I knew Moi's government was tired by the inability to spin it as well as before. He was given money to run a by election and he swallowed it and KANU lost the seat. They went after him.
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So far I haven't seen anything to convince me that there was even an attacker in the first place. When you see some reports, you just rollback your knowledge-base back to before they emerge and work with that, while keeping an open mind.
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He flunked espionage classes. If you're too careful with your cover you stand out
Indeed. A panga attack on the guy guarding the gate to the home of a prominent politician is likely to get noticed. Not a smart way to gather intelligence.
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He flunked espionage classes. If you're too careful with your cover you stand out
Indeed. A panga attack on the guy guarding the gate to the home of a prominent politician is likely to get noticed. Not a smart way to gather intelligence.
It's also possible his cover was accidentally blown. A simple confrontation at the gate and a momentary laspe of his cover. Uses one of his wares, a meat cleaver, and once that's done, there's no turning back.
I like how the Somali community are singing like canaries; they may just go extinct very suddenly in UG
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Here are some additional headscratchers from a Standard digital article:
Can an ordinary hawker, without any paramilitary training, manage to pull such a stunt? He seemed to know how to use the different guns in the armoury.
How was this intruder able to hold off the highly-trained elite squad the whole night?
The intruder did not stop there; he was able to change into the clothes of the officer he had killed and and for hours make police believe there was more than one attacker. A hawker?
Another important question is what exactly was the motive of the attack.
If he was not a terrorist, what really was his objective?
Why was the police quick to dismiss the possibility of a 'stage-managed' exercise even before the investigations had been completed?
The police and the Deputy President seem to have narrowed down the attack to an act of terror and not a robbery.
The top cop in the country, Inspector General Joseph Boinnet, swiftly denied this theory but went ahead to declare that his men were going to start investigations.
Why rule anything out before investigations are completed?
On such occasions as election time, it is highly unlikely that there would be a crowd of people in the compound of the Deputy President just a few minutes after he has exited.
Were there the other people in the homestead during the attack?
Reports indicate that there were many farm workers in the compound at the time of the attack.
Nature of the threat
This means that there were many people who would have helped police assess the nature of the threat and neutralise it without causing the force unnecessary embarrassment.
Local residents identified the attacker as a well-known hawker in area.
ALSO
There was also CCTV footage that clearly showed that the man had not made it past the second gate.
Conflicting reports
There were many conflicting reports, with some suggesting that there were four men involved in the attack. At some point it was even reported that the attackers arrived on a motorbike.
Why was there no actionable intelligence to help the elite squad deal with the threat swiftly?
And as the attack unfolded, Ruto went ahead with his schedule as if nothing was happening.
The attacker must have been at the home several times and must have been familiar with the officers manning the gate or was known by some people in the DP's compound, having frequented the area.
If indeed he was just a hawker, how was he able to conduct surveillance and know the security weaknesses of the Deputy President's home without being noticed?
Was he acting alone?
If such an attack can happen to the second most powerful home in the country, shortly after a principal secretary was abducted, just how safe is the ordinary Kenyan on the street?
ALSO READ: Ruto heads to Kisii, Nyamira to hunt for votes amid division over IDPs compensation
Did the police kill a man who had simply gone to collect his debt and was mistaken for a terrorist or was this one of the biggest security lapses in the country?
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From Mandera. This was alshabaab lone wolf.
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Something is happening in Eldoret - several cases of Moi University students with links to Al Shaitan. Need to be looked into especially after transfer of Garissa students to that place.
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ureport/article/2001248376/varsity-student-in-the-police-list-of-wanted-terrorists-denies-claims-of-being-an-al-shabaab-member
https://www.tuko.co.ke/58229-number-of-moi-university-students-who-have-joined-al-shabaab.html
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Al-Qaeda-or-ISIS--Shabaab-militants-quarrel-/1056-3901186-arp6ht/index.html
http://www.magazinereel.com/moi-university-students-denies-link-with-alshabaab/
https://www.varcity.co.ke/thirteen-moi-university-students-suspected-to-have-joined-al-shabaab/
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Unlike in the matter of Msando, at least now you are not pretending to be objectively waiting investigations and facts to come out before you "jump" into any conclusion. This is the real you and NOT that fake "objective/scientific" Pundito who shows up when facts do not favor Jubilee. This is why I do not pay attention to MOAS-there is nothing scientific/objective about it. You are not capable of that where WSR is involved unless the evidence is overwhelming and no room for spinning.
From Mandera. This was alshabaab lone wolf.
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Unlike in the matter of Msando, at least now you are not pretending to be objectively waiting investigations and facts to come out before you "jump" into any conclusion. This is the real you and NOT that fake "objective/scientific". This is why I do not pay attention to MOAS.
From Mandera. This was alshabaab lone wolf.
When asked for evidence he goes on a shouting trip
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Here are some additional headscratchers from a Standard digital article:
Can an ordinary hawker, without any paramilitary training, manage to pull such a stunt? He seemed to know how to use the different guns in the armoury.
How was this intruder able to hold off the highly-trained elite squad the whole night?
The intruder did not stop there; he was able to change into the clothes of the officer he had killed and and for hours make police believe there was more than one attacker. A hawker?
Another important question is what exactly was the motive of the attack.
If he was not a terrorist, what really was his objective?
Why was the police quick to dismiss the possibility of a 'stage-managed' exercise even before the investigations had been completed?
The police and the Deputy President seem to have narrowed down the attack to an act of terror and not a robbery.
The top cop in the country, Inspector General Joseph Boinnet, swiftly denied this theory but went ahead to declare that his men were going to start investigations.
Why rule anything out before investigations are completed?
On such occasions as election time, it is highly unlikely that there would be a crowd of people in the compound of the Deputy President just a few minutes after he has exited.
Were there the other people in the homestead during the attack?
Reports indicate that there were many farm workers in the compound at the time of the attack.
Nature of the threat
This means that there were many people who would have helped police assess the nature of the threat and neutralise it without causing the force unnecessary embarrassment.
Local residents identified the attacker as a well-known hawker in area.
ALSO
There was also CCTV footage that clearly showed that the man had not made it past the second gate.
Conflicting reports
There were many conflicting reports, with some suggesting that there were four men involved in the attack. At some point it was even reported that the attackers arrived on a motorbike.
Why was there no actionable intelligence to help the elite squad deal with the threat swiftly?
And as the attack unfolded, Ruto went ahead with his schedule as if nothing was happening.
The attacker must have been at the home several times and must have been familiar with the officers manning the gate or was known by some people in the DP's compound, having frequented the area.
If indeed he was just a hawker, how was he able to conduct surveillance and know the security weaknesses of the Deputy President's home without being noticed?
Was he acting alone?
If such an attack can happen to the second most powerful home in the country, shortly after a principal secretary was abducted, just how safe is the ordinary Kenyan on the street?
ALSO READ: Ruto heads to Kisii, Nyamira to hunt for votes amid division over IDPs compensation
Did the police kill a man who had simply gone to collect his debt and was mistaken for a terrorist or was this one of the biggest security lapses in the country?
He had extensive weapons training. The 'ordinary hawker' was his cover.
Stop there for the rest is bullshiet
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vooke
When did he use the weapons and what is your source of information? Hold on to your matusi until you have proven your case then feel free to throw as many as you will desire. For now lets go for the facts.
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vooke
When did he use the weapons and what is your source of information?
Ni mbii?
I answered you before.
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I am thick of understanding so please do it again. Or refer me to the answer you gave with a link
vooke
When did he use the weapons and what is your source of information?
Ni mbii?
I answered you before.
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It's also possible his cover was accidentally blown. A simple confrontation at the gate and a momentary laspe of his cover. Uses one of his wares, a meat cleaver, and once that's done, there's no turning back.
Ah, yes. Blown cover followed by desperate measures. And then some Mission-Impossible stuff. Just saw that in yet another "spy" movie, this weekend.
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It's also possible his cover was accidentally blown. A simple confrontation at the gate and a momentary laspe of his cover. Uses one of his wares, a meat cleaver, and once that's done, there's no turning back.
Ah, yes. Blown cover followed by desperate measures. And then some Mission-Impossible stuff. Just saw that in yet another "spy" movie, this weekend.
Was your actor a sadistic cannibal?
Event is already water under the bridge barely 72hrs later.