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Title: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Omollo on July 30, 2017, 02:54:51 PM
It is hard NOT to laugh at these antics

Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: RV Pundit on July 30, 2017, 02:59:47 PM
Hope he doesn't have passwords to the database - IEBC key staff - need round the clock security. We are now in new territory of electronic voting. ICT is going to be critical.
It is hard NOT to laugh at these antics

Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: RV Pundit on July 30, 2017, 03:01:45 PM
Here are more details - seem some folks are determined to sabotage elections.
https://www.kahawatungu.com/2017/07/30/iebc-acting-director-ict-chris-msando-reported-missing/
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Omollo on July 30, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
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Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Omollo on July 30, 2017, 03:28:23 PM
My money is on Jubilee. He has frustrated their attempts to hack and vote remotely. I understand he was very vocal on NTV and may have alerted the riggers.

Here are more details - seem some folks are determined to sabotage elections.
https://www.kahawatungu.com/2017/07/30/iebc-acting-director-ict-chris-msando-reported-missing/
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: RV Pundit on July 30, 2017, 03:29:45 PM
That goes without saying. You have to wake up and spin a yarn. Wait for investigation.
My money is on Jubilee. He has frustrated their attempts to hack and vote remotely. I understand he was very vocal on NTV and may have alerted the riggers.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Omollo on July 30, 2017, 03:30:38 PM
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 30, 2017, 03:37:58 PM
this is usual campaign dirty tricks shenigans. I am sure this guy will reappear in some embassy looking for protection with a cooked up story.. do you remember of Ruto and his Kalenjin ICT guy during Kivuitu abracadabra
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Omollo on July 30, 2017, 03:41:50 PM
I am not a judge of a High Court delivering Judgment. It is my well considered opinion based upon:

1. Who has a history of conducting abductions and extra judicial killings?¨
2. Who is interested in concealing the Database / Voter register?
3. Who has the means, capacity and opportunity to carry out a kidnapping?

I could go on and on

That goes without saying. You have to wake up and spin a yarn. Wait for investigation.
My money is on Jubilee. He has frustrated their attempts to hack and vote remotely. I understand he was very vocal on NTV and may have alerted the riggers.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Omollo on July 30, 2017, 03:42:09 PM
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kadame5 on July 30, 2017, 03:48:58 PM
How much drama shall swirl around this election, honestly? In the past few days, I've already heard three hot stories: one in Dubai, one about KDF, another about the DPORK's house being under seige, and here is a fourth one already: missing IEBC ICT head. My head is spinning. What's going on in that country called Kenya?
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 30, 2017, 03:57:37 PM
How much drama shall swirl around this election, honestly? In the past few days, I've already heard three hot stories: one in Dubai, one about KDF, another about the DPORK's house being under seige, and here is a fourth one already: missing IEBC ICT head. My head is spinning. What's going on in that country called Kenya?
Usual political antics around election time.. Nothing.. wait for a mother of all dramas on 8.8.17..I think Jubilee has calculated to let NASA shout itself hoarse and not respond to it antics.. If Jubilee joined this mayhem the country will burn..
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kadame5 on July 30, 2017, 04:04:12 PM
How much drama shall swirl around this election, honestly? In the past few days, I've already heard three hot stories: one in Dubai, one about KDF, another about the DPORK's house being under seige, and here is a fourth one already: missing IEBC ICT head. My head is spinning. What's going on in that country called Kenya?
Usual political antics around election time.. Nothing.. wait for a mother of all dramas on 8.8.17..I think Jubilee has calculated to let NASA shout itself hoarse and not respond to it antics.. If Jubilee joined this mayhem the country will burn..
Wait: Are you saying that NASA has created all these situations? Even the thing in Ruto's house?
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: vooke on July 30, 2017, 04:05:35 PM
How much drama shall swirl around this election, honestly? In the past few days, I've already heard three hot stories: one in Dubai, one about KDF, another about the DPORK's house being under seige, and here is a fourth one already: missing IEBC ICT head. My head is spinning. What's going on in that country called Kenya?

Throw away your movies and watch live action
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Omollo on July 30, 2017, 04:09:40 PM
Kadame

There is a reason I choose who to respond to. When a post is clearly silly or more precisely, the poster is displaying idiocy, I simply ignore and you too will find it a useful approach.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 30, 2017, 04:13:33 PM
You throw away the IT guys and you open the door to where you can do almost everything manually.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kadame5 on July 30, 2017, 04:23:27 PM
How much drama shall swirl around this election, honestly? In the past few days, I've already heard three hot stories: one in Dubai, one about KDF, another about the DPORK's house being under seige, and here is a fourth one already: missing IEBC ICT head. My head is spinning. What's going on in that country called Kenya?

Throw away your movies and watch live action
Indeed. Only problem is, this live action might affect my family and my home so it's really unsettling. Getting a sick, sick feeling in my tummy. God please help us.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: RV Pundit on July 30, 2017, 05:10:01 PM
NASA has done everything in the book to sabotage the election. They know they are in for a thorough beating. They launched 40 court cases touching literally on anything. They daily launches un-warranted attacks against IEBC. Now they've gone to KDF/Security forces. Threat of boycotts. I won't be surprised if the last ditch effort is not to literally cripple IEBC. The GOK should give IEBC round the clock security. We know who doesn't want to have election.And we know why.

NASA end-game is easy to read. Coalition GoK. They hope to get this through a discredited election or postponed election or violence. Muddy the waters so much as to deny Uhuru the legitimacy for another 5yr term.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: vooke on July 30, 2017, 05:16:32 PM
How much drama shall swirl around this election, honestly? In the past few days, I've already heard three hot stories: one in Dubai, one about KDF, another about the DPORK's house being under seige, and here is a fourth one already: missing IEBC ICT head. My head is spinning. What's going on in that country called Kenya?

Throw away your movies and watch live action
Indeed. Only problem is, this live action might affect my family and my home so it's really unsettling. Getting a sick, sick feeling in my tummy. God please help us.

Very few if any lives will be lost; it'll be calmer than 2013. That I can assure you.

This nigga probably overdosed mchele


Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kichwa on July 30, 2017, 05:31:43 PM
The only way Jubilee has a chance of retaining power this time around is to rig. Ouruto is like a wounded lion right now and very dangerous. They are doing and will do anything to retain power but we will not let them.  At a certain point Ouru will have to tell Ruto, Muhoho, and the Mafia that its OVER just like Moi did in 2002.


Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: vooke on July 30, 2017, 05:38:36 PM
The only way Jubilee has a chance of retaining power this time around is to rig. Ouruto is like a wounded lion right now and very dangerous. They are doing and will do anything to win.



Shout yourself hoarse ad nauseum and perhaps you will convert a few fools.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: RV Pundit on July 30, 2017, 05:39:18 PM
I have seen Uhuru who has concentrated single-mildly on his election campaign. I don't see any panic. I see Uhuru preparing for  a win and preparing to quash any post-election violence. I see NASA that wakes up daily and conjure lies against IEBC - when not rushing to court or press --with latest cooked story.

The only way Jubilee has a chance of retaining power this time around is to rig. Ouruto is like a wounded lion right now and very dangerous. They are doing and will do anything to win.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kadame5 on July 30, 2017, 05:40:42 PM
I've been reading fb comments on the missing IEBC ICT fella. They mirror the comments on this board.

Jubilee supporters are convinced that NASA are responsible, did it to stall elections. NASA supporters are convinced that Jubilee is responsible, did it to ensure manual counting/tallying (and enable rigging).

Both sides believe the other side is driven by desperation.

Just a note. There are two Kenyas.

Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 30, 2017, 05:58:07 PM
How much drama shall swirl around this election, honestly? In the past few days, I've already heard three hot stories: one in Dubai, one about KDF, another about the DPORK's house being under seige, and here is a fourth one already: missing IEBC ICT head. My head is spinning. What's going on in that country called Kenya?
Usual political antics around election time.. Nothing.. wait for a mother of all dramas on 8.8.17..I think Jubilee has calculated to let NASA shout itself hoarse and not respond to it antics.. If Jubilee joined this mayhem the country will burn..
Wait: Are you saying that NASA has created all these situations? Even the thing in Ruto's house?
Nope but each side is playing games..NASA is working to scuttle rigging by blowing whistle on anything and everything..jubilee too is using incumbency to play to their advantage and frustrate NASA..politics so dirty so dirty and childish..even in USA you would think that the world is about to end  .everyside plays dirty tricks until one side loses and cries ..Republican are hardcore they just fight and if they lose they go back and find more tricks to sabotage the government..Democrats are faint hearted they fight and once they lose they start screaming victimization..

My advise is for Raila to on 8.8 ..if it is apparent he will lose to be decisive in preparing his supporters to accept defeat. In my heart off hearts I do not see a path for Nasa to win ..all polls point that the incumbent had advantage ..

We need to pull pack and end the games. I hope no on heads to supreme Court. We need to keep political shit out of our courts.. I say we battle until after the votes..

I feel for young NASA supporters they are not prepared to lose
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 30, 2017, 06:01:56 PM
I've been reading fb comments on the missing IEBC ICT fella. They mirror the comments on this board.

Jubilee supporters are convinced that NASA are responsible, did it to stall elections. NASA supporters are convinced that Jubilee is responsible, did it to ensure manual counting/tallying (and enable rigging).

Both sides believe the other side is driven by desperation.

Just a note. There are two Kenyas.
Facebook is a dangerous echo chamber..it is gut wrenching place. It really shows how deep the division is. There is no niceties. It is choo dot com amplified..the hate that NASA supporters have against this government is just too much..win or lose Kenya will lose big time ..once a big Chuck of population feels cheated you cannot get progress.

Kenya is Nigeria in making once oil gets following blood and terrorism will flow all over..it is possible we will end up with a Somali sheikh in power and religious conflict will just add fuel to tribal conflict..once middle East decided decides to meddle in geo politics of oil Kenya will be doomed
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 30, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
I've been reading fb comments on the missing IEBC ICT fella. They mirror the comments on this board.

Jubilee supporters are convinced that NASA are responsible, did it to stall elections. NASA supporters are convinced that Jubilee is responsible, did it to ensure manual counting/tallying (and enable rigging).

Both sides believe the other side is driven by desperation.

Just a note. There are two Kenyas.



If NASA is behind it, we should get hints to that effect pretty soon from Kenya Police no less.  I don't claim to know who is behind it or why.  But it can make it very convenient to go the manual way because the dog ate the IT director.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kadame5 on July 30, 2017, 06:14:11 PM
I've been reading fb comments on the missing IEBC ICT fella. They mirror the comments on this board.

Jubilee supporters are convinced that NASA are responsible, did it to stall elections. NASA supporters are convinced that Jubilee is responsible, did it to ensure manual counting/tallying (and enable rigging).

Both sides believe the other side is driven by desperation.

Just a note. There are two Kenyas.



If NASA is behind it, we should get hints to that effect pretty soon from Kenya Police no less.  I don't claim to know who is behind it or why.  But it can make it very convenient to go the manual way because the dog ate the IT director.
I don't believe NASA are stupid enough to attack the DPORK or any IEBC guy. They know they'll be eaten alive. I'm just commentin on the picture of "cohesion" (or lack of it) that this paints. It's amazing. And sad. I of course am very suspicious myself. But now, even more than suspicious, I'm worried. About the country.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 30, 2017, 06:18:52 PM

If NASA is behind it, we should get hints to that effect pretty soon from Kenya Police no less.  I don't claim to know who is behind it or why.  But it can make it very convenient to go the manual way because the dog ate the IT director.
I don't believe NASA are stupid enough to attack the DPORK or any IEBC guy. They know they'll be eaten alive. I'm just commentinh on the picture of "cohesion" (or lack of it) that this paints. It's amazing. And sad.

I also don't get the impression that NASA want to sabotage the election.  They are unhappy with what they consider unpreparedness.  Jubilants on the other hand seem to have no issues with IEBC shortcomings.  I mean they don't seem to even mind that the voter register is not down pat.  Or maybe they mind, but since NASA is concerned about it, their opposition to NASA comes above all else.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 30, 2017, 06:21:10 PM
This how it works. the guy will show abroad and claim to have evidence of rigging ..the problem is that the game is full of treachery that most of these guys genuinely decide to bail out for fear.

Everyone from iebc NASA and jubilee is playing games.. corruption even makes easy to compromise and blackmail each other..
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kadame5 on July 30, 2017, 06:25:18 PM

If NASA is behind it, we should get hints to that effect pretty soon from Kenya Police no less.  I don't claim to know who is behind it or why.  But it can make it very convenient to go the manual way because the dog ate the IT director.
I don't believe NASA are stupid enough to attack the DPORK or any IEBC guy. They know they'll be eaten alive. I'm just commentinh on the picture of "cohesion" (or lack of it) that this paints. It's amazing. And sad.

I also don't get the impression that NASA want to sabotage the election.  They are unhappy with what they consider unpreparedness.  Jubilants on the other hand seem to have no issues with IEBC shortcomings.  I mean they don't seem to even mind that the voter register is not down pat.  Or maybe they mind, but since NASA is concerned about it, their opposition to NASA comes above all else.
Exactly, this is an us vs them. Any problems raised will be labelled whining/distractions from elections. My biggest concern the other day was the ballots but then it was overtaken by the threat of KDF deployment. Now I don't even know. I'm bracing myself for another bomb to drop tomorrow. Maybe someone big will declare he is a woman trapped in a man's body? Really, who knows at this point?
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 30, 2017, 06:26:19 PM

If NASA is behind it, we should get hints to that effect pretty soon from Kenya Police no less.  I don't claim to know who is behind it or why.  But it can make it very convenient to go the manual way because the dog ate the IT director.
I don't believe NASA are stupid enough to attack the DPORK or any IEBC guy. They know they'll be eaten alive. I'm just commentinh on the picture of "cohesion" (or lack of it) that this paints. It's amazing. And sad.

I also don't get the impression that NASA want to sabotage the election.  They are unhappy with what they consider unpreparedness.  Jubilants on the other hand seem to have no issues with IEBC shortcomings.  I mean they don't seem to even mind that the voter register is not down pat.  Or maybe they mind, but since NASA is concerned about it, their opposition to NASA comes above all else.
What advantage is for Jubilee to worry about the system..they have advantage of incumbency..it is like Republicans fighting for electroral reforms they won't because they are favored by the system..

Right now jubilee feels it has the numbers to beat NASA so they are just keeping NASA distracted and on defensive..NASA should be on the offensive push but they cannot they are distracted and demoralized..nasa voters in places like Nairobi and rv will bolt home because they want to be safe than sorry .

Even when moi won with simple game of minority rule opposition always claimed rigging ..
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 30, 2017, 06:26:51 PM
This how it works. the guy will show abroad and claim to have evidence of rigging ..the problem is that the game is full of treachery that most of these guys genuinely decide to bail out for fear.

Everyone from iebc NASA and jubilee is playing games.. corruption even makes easy to compromise and blackmail each other..


I am not saying this is what is happening and wish I could put it past IEBC, but I would bail if I was asked to add some algorithm favoring the jubilants in the transmissions.  You know like being asked to make sure each transmission that happens, takes into account the current running tallies for all other transmissions and makes adjustments if necessary.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 30, 2017, 06:30:53 PM
I also don't get the impression that NASA want to sabotage the election.  They are unhappy with what they consider unpreparedness.  Jubilants on the other hand seem to have no issues with IEBC shortcomings.  I mean they don't seem to even mind that the voter register is not down pat.  Or maybe they mind, but since NASA is concerned about it, their opposition to NASA comes above all else.
What advantage is for Jubilee to worry about the system..they have advantage of incumbency..it is like Republicans fighting for electroral reforms they won't because they are favored by the system..

Right now jubilee feels it has the numbers to beat NASA so they are just keeping NASA distracted and on defensive..NASA should be on the offensive push but they cannot they are distracted and demoralized..nasa voters in places like Nairobi and rv will bolt home because they want to be safe than sorry .

Even when moi won with simple game of minority rule opposition always claimed rigging ..


But if someone is confident of winning in a clean environment, they should be wary of unreliable systems.  Unless they are sure of benefiting from the unreliability.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 30, 2017, 06:31:48 PM
Yeah he would bail..what we learnt with chickengste is that these guys get recruited because they are corrupt and greedy. Oswago was eating while trying to play neutral ..these guys choose sides and mostly they choose the side in power coz it can offer protection..a guy like this was probably compromised from day one but now cannot trust jubilee and decides to bolt. Once in safe have he will start spinning a yarn
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 30, 2017, 06:36:20 PM
I also don't get the impression that NASA want to sabotage the election.  They are unhappy with what they consider unpreparedness.  Jubilants on the other hand seem to have no issues with IEBC shortcomings.  I mean they don't seem to even mind that the voter register is not down pat.  Or maybe they mind, but since NASA is concerned about it, their opposition to NASA comes above all else.
What advantage is for Jubilee to worry about the system..they have advantage of incumbency..it is like Republicans fighting for electroral reforms they won't because they are favored by the system..

Right now jubilee feels it has the numbers to beat NASA so they are just keeping NASA distracted and on defensive..NASA should be on the offensive push but they cannot they are distracted and demoralized..nasa voters in places like Nairobi and rv will bolt home because they want to be safe than sorry .

Even when moi won with simple game of minority rule opposition always claimed rigging ..


But if someone is confident of winning in a clean environment, they should be wary of unreliable systems.  Unless they are sure of benefiting from the unreliability.
They are wary because they can out rig NASA..that is the reality of the game..in 2007 everyside rigged odm had the numbers but the state still had an ace card since they had the machinery to make the last call..

My thing is that NASA has no chance in hell to win overwhelmingly. In my own opinion there no path for Nasa  win unless key jubilee strongholds rebel and pull a suprise So nasa must accept the fact that they can only outsmart the state up to a point
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: vooke on July 30, 2017, 06:40:20 PM
NASWA can't possibly be behind it.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 30, 2017, 06:45:15 PM
What advantage is for Jubilee to worry about the system..they have advantage of incumbency..it is like Republicans fighting for electroral reforms they won't because they are favored by the system..

Right now jubilee feels it has the numbers to beat NASA so they are just keeping NASA distracted and on defensive..NASA should be on the offensive push but they cannot they are distracted and demoralized..nasa voters in places like Nairobi and rv will bolt home because they want to be safe than sorry .

Even when moi won with simple game of minority rule opposition always claimed rigging ..


But if someone is confident of winning in a clean environment, they should be wary of unreliable systems.  Unless they are sure of benefiting from the unreliability.
They are wary because they can out rig NASA..that is the reality of the game..in 2007 everyside rigged odm had the numbers but the state still had an ace card since they had the machinery to make the last call..

My thing is that NASA has no chance in hell to win overwhelmingly. In my own opinion there no path for Nasa  win unless key jubilee strongholds rebel and pull a suprise So nasa must accept the fact that they can only outsmart the state up to a point

So I guess you believe Pundit's MOAS.  But the point is, if you have the numbers, why risk it with a broken system?  The idea that NASA will rig will gain some currency with me, when it is demonstrated that monopoly of state violence is shared by NASA.  In Kenya, institutions remain only nominally independent, even though the constitution grants them full independence.  Boinett for instance still relies on instructions from above.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kichwa on July 30, 2017, 06:45:21 PM
Funny, I have watched Ouru too, and I see an overwhelmed, desperate candidate on the verge of throwing in the towel if not for people who depend on his presidency.

I have seen Uhuru who has concentrated single-mildly on his election campaign. I don't see any panic. I see Uhuru preparing for  a win and preparing to quash any post-election violence. I see NASA that wakes up daily and conjure lies against IEBC - when not rushing to court or press --with latest cooked story.

The only way Jubilee has a chance of retaining power this time around is to rig. Ouruto is like a wounded lion right now and very dangerous. They are doing and will do anything to win.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: RV Pundit on July 30, 2017, 06:48:56 PM
Jubilee are campaigning like crazy. Holding rallies 200 plus rallies nearly every week and spending billions of money.They know the game will be decided in the ballot box and it is nearly impossible to rig without raising suspicion. Jubilee won clean in 2013. They intend to win clean in 2017. NASA are either naive - by allowing themselves to be distracted by useless fight with IEBC - IEBC have been nothing but open book - they have allowed NASA to look at every hole and find any rat - or they know they aint winning. I mean apart from compromised Infotrak and sijui Zogby - the opinion polls from 2013 - have consistently shown Uhuru at  plus or near 50% of the vote. I mean since 2013 there are only two polls - showing Raila leading by 1% - internal poll and compromised poll :D.

When someone talk about rigging now - in any scale to let you win - I think they are nuts. Even if 10% of systems IEBC has put in place were to work - how would one rig any serious scale? Maybe rig remote places like Mandera - but how do you rig Nairobi? Coast? Nyanza? Western? RV? Central?  Max of 700 votes; electronic identification; agents; observers; electronic transmission; even if it fails like in 2013 - the data is already saved in those machines - they may not transmit - but you can dig out the figures saved - all the paper trail. If any rigging will be attempted - it will be easy to flag it.Everyone would know rigging...Kibaki started witholding results from his strongholds...with votes from Marsabit arriving faster than those in Ruiru or Tharaka.

Rigging post 2002 - when counting & tallying shifted to polling station - is really hard to conceal. In 92-97 - ballot stuffing happen because counting would be done in central places - so KANU would simply stuff or swap ballot boxes on the way to center.

Post 2002 - any rigging will be known - like Kibaki 2007 rigging. No way Ruiru votes can appear 5 days later after Mandera, Marsabit and Turkana have airlifted theirs.

Uhuru is popular incumbent romping back to statehouse bila wasiwasi.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kichwa on July 30, 2017, 06:54:51 PM
NASA has already penetrated Jubilee strongholds and that is why I do not buy into the MOAS which is based on Jubilee maintaining its 2013 numbers with a few inconsequential adjustments.  Also, NASA has extended its 2013 strongholds.  What we are now waiting upon is the turn-outs which we will not know until after the elections.  If NASA Succeeds into getting a huge turn-out in their strongholds then you have  a very decisive win for NASA.





I also don't get the impression that NASA want to sabotage the election.  They are unhappy with what they consider unpreparedness.  Jubilants on the other hand seem to have no issues with IEBC shortcomings.  I mean they don't seem to even mind that the voter register is not down pat.  Or maybe they mind, but since NASA is concerned about it, their opposition to NASA comes above all else.
What advantage is for Jubilee to worry about the system..they have advantage of incumbency..it is like Republicans fighting for electroral reforms they won't because they are favored by the system..

Right now jubilee feels it has the numbers to beat NASA so they are just keeping NASA distracted and on defensive..NASA should be on the offensive push but they cannot they are distracted and demoralized..nasa voters in places like Nairobi and rv will bolt home because they want to be safe than sorry .

Even when moi won with simple game of minority rule opposition always claimed rigging ..


But if someone is confident of winning in a clean environment, they should be wary of unreliable systems.  Unless they are sure of benefiting from the unreliability.
They are wary because they can out rig NASA..that is the reality of the game..in 2007 everyside rigged odm had the numbers but the state still had an ace card since they had the machinery to make the last call..

My thing is that NASA has no chance in hell to win overwhelmingly. In my own opinion there no path for Nasa  win unless key jubilee strongholds rebel and pull a suprise So nasa must accept the fact that they can only outsmart the state up to a point
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kichwa on July 30, 2017, 06:58:38 PM
We know you believe Jubilee won clean in 2013.  We DON'T and we believe we know exactly how they rigged in 2013. That is why we are trying to close the loopholes they used to rig last time and those they may use this time.  You can try all you want but you will not convince me or anybody else that Ouruto are not crooks and that stealing elections is above them.

Jubilee are campaigning like crazy. Holding rallies 200 plus rallies nearly every week and spending billions of money.They know the game will be decided in the ballot box and it is nearly impossible to rig without raising suspicion. Jubilee won clean in 2013. They intend to win clean in 2017. NASA are either naive - by allowing themselves to be distracted by useless fight with IEBC - IEBC have been nothing but open book - they have allowed NASA to look at every hole and find any rat - or they know they aint winning. I mean apart from compromised Infotrak and sijui Zogby - the opinion polls from 2013 - have consistently shown Uhuru at  plus or near 50% of the vote. I mean since 2013 there are only two polls - showing Raila leading by 1% - internal poll and compromised poll :D.

When someone talk about rigging now - in any scale to let you win - I think they are nuts. Even if 10% of systems IEBC has put in place were to work - how would one rig any serious scale? Maybe rig remote places like Mandera - but how do you rig Nairobi? Coast? Nyanza? Western? RV? Central?  Max of 700 votes; electronic identification; agents; observers; electronic transmission; even if it fails like in 2013 - the data is already saved in those machines - they may not transmit - but you can dig out the figures saved - all the paper trail. If any rigging will be attempted - it will be easy to flag it.Everyone would know rigging...Kibaki started witholding results from his strongholds...with votes from Marsabit arriving faster than those in Ruiru or Tharaka.

Rigging post 2002 - when counting & tallying shifted to polling station - is really hard to conceal. In 92-97 - ballot stuffing happen because counting would be done in central places - so KANU would simply stuff or swap ballot boxes on the way to center.

Post 2002 - any rigging will be known - like Kibaki 2007 rigging. No way Ruiru votes can appear 5 days later after Mandera, Marsabit and Turkana have airlifted theirs.

Uhuru is popular incumbent romping back to statehouse bila wasiwasi.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 04:59:38 AM
Found in Roysambu with mpango wa kando.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 31, 2017, 05:11:31 AM
that is funny.. I read it on Facebook and thought it was a lie.. But someone claimed to have seen him drunk as skunk in Roysambu.. Lol Kenya is full of circus
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: vooke on July 31, 2017, 05:28:52 AM
How much drama shall swirl around this election, honestly? In the past few days, I've already heard three hot stories: one in Dubai, one about KDF, another about the DPORK's house being under seige, and here is a fourth one already: missing IEBC ICT head. My head is spinning. What's going on in that country called Kenya?

Throw away your movies and watch live action
Indeed. Only problem is, this live action might affect my family and my home so it's really unsettling. Getting a sick, sick feeling in my tummy. God please help us.

Very few if any lives will be lost; it'll be calmer than 2013. That I can assure you.

This nigga probably overdosed mchele





I'm that good

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Can NASWA overworked imagination take a break
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 31, 2017, 05:46:23 AM
Guy was doing the Kenya thing drinking like there is no 8.8.17
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kadame5 on July 31, 2017, 08:26:25 AM
Lol! Ati mpango wa kando? Kwani alimpea nini? I'm glad he's safe. vooke, it's not just NASA imzgination, I saw here and on social media enough Jubilee speculation about NASA plots. So your words should be directed at both to be fair. And who can blame them? It's IEBC who jumped the gun by going to the public with the report before he was actually known to be missing for real. I wish there was  a link to a story so I could read more details. Dude must be sooooooo embarrssed to be outed in front of everybody like that!!!! :)
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kadame5 on July 31, 2017, 08:40:15 AM
Ok, guys, the article I found was this: http://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/vehicle-iebc-manager-roysambu/

They say he has not actually been found.... only his car has.....where's the story saying he was found with a mpango wa kando????
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 10:20:26 AM
Ok, guys, the article I found was this: http://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/vehicle-iebc-manager-roysambu/

They say he has not actually been found.... only his car has.....where's the story saying he was found with a mpango wa kando????
Kadame

Jubilee is behind all this. Once I have all the information will share. The media in Kenya has allied with Uhuru to turn the country into a modern day NAZI Reich.

They refused to publish the KDF story arguing there was no evidence. Then the evidence was provided. They said it was unverified. Then the military acknowledged the documents. They took three days waiting for Omamo to say the documents were fake so they could use it. Omamo when asked conceded that she had not read, examined or even seen the documents. How did she decide they were"fake"? No answer! But the NAZI media carried her lies.

Matiangi and her then tried to justify the deployment of KDF. The NAZIs failed to ask the two Jubilee campaigners (they were in Kisumu organizing the distribution of RAILA 10years T-shirts for photos to be distributed in Machakos) when parliament passed such an authorization. The constitution requires the deployment of KDF internally to be approved by parliament and there is no short cut.

Uhuru better win because he and his retinue will need to ask for a pardon for the countless gross violations committed. Some of these people will not survive. Omamo is an advocate breaking the law she knows and understands. How can I be convinced to not seek her prosecution conviction and further move for the LSK to strike her name off the roll of advocates in addition to ensuring she never holds public office?

When confronted jubilee whacks who still think they'll win respond like Kiunjuri-who Kenyans have finally figured is a mental case.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 10:57:11 AM
You know it treason to publish KDF documents.
]Kadame

Jubilee is behind all this. Once I have all the information will share. The media in Kenya has allied with Uhuru to turn the country into a modern day NAZI Reich.

They refused to publish the KDF story arguing there was no evidence. Then the evidence was provided. They said it was unverified. Then the military acknowledged the documents. They took three days waiting for Omamo to say the documents were fake so they could use it. Omamo when asked conceded that she had not read, examined or even seen the documents. How did she decide they were"fake"? No answer! But the NAZI media carried her lies.

Matiangi and her then tried to justify the deployment of KDF. The NAZIs failed to ask the two Jubilee campaigners (they were in Kisumu organizing the distribution of RAILA 10years T-shirts for photos to be distributed in Machakos) when parliament passed such an authorization. The constitution requires the deployment of KDF internally to be approved by parliament and there is no short cut.

Uhuru better win because he and his retinue will need to ask for a pardon for the countless gross violations committed. Some of these people will not survive. Omamo is an advocate breaking the law she knows and understands. How can I be convinced to not seek her prosecution conviction and further move for the LSK to strike her name off the roll of advocates in addition to ensuring she never holds public office?

When confronted jubilee whacks who still think they'll win respond like Kiunjuri-who Kenyans have finally figured is a mental case.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 11:22:32 AM
Do you know it is Misprision of Treason to conceal Treason?

You know it treason to publish KDF documents.
]Kadame

Jubilee is behind all this. Once I have all the information will share. The media in Kenya has allied with Uhuru to turn the country into a modern day NAZI Reich.

They refused to publish the KDF story arguing there was no evidence. Then the evidence was provided. They said it was unverified. Then the military acknowledged the documents. They took three days waiting for Omamo to say the documents were fake so they could use it. Omamo when asked conceded that she had not read, examined or even seen the documents. How did she decide they were"fake"? No answer! But the NAZI media carried her lies.

Matiangi and her then tried to justify the deployment of KDF. The NAZIs failed to ask the two Jubilee campaigners (they were in Kisumu organizing the distribution of RAILA 10years T-shirts for photos to be distributed in Machakos) when parliament passed such an authorization. The constitution requires the deployment of KDF internally to be approved by parliament and there is no short cut.

Uhuru better win because he and his retinue will need to ask for a pardon for the countless gross violations committed. Some of these people will not survive. Omamo is an advocate breaking the law she knows and understands. How can I be convinced to not seek her prosecution conviction and further move for the LSK to strike her name off the roll of advocates in addition to ensuring she never holds public office?

When confronted jubilee whacks who still think they'll win respond like Kiunjuri-who Kenyans have finally figured is a mental case.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Nefertiti on July 31, 2017, 12:37:14 PM
This just vindicates NASA cries of IEBC & Jubilee monkey business. The Kenya Police Service is no longer independent after Jubilee used tyranny to let IG be appointed by PORK instead of the Kavuludi NPSC. The same way they attempted to shackle JSC to forward three names for judges for PORK to pick one. Jubilee is KANU - I mean the only "reforms" they have managed in the police is to entrench impunity. And the stench has infected KDF now under Jubilee... just look at their Somalia charcoal shenanigans... and unbelievable Westgate lootenants fiasco under ole Lenku who is now Jubilee superstar. Consider most KDF scandals are muzzled due to "national security". Jubilee is simply KANU pig in heavy make-up so don't put digital stuffing above them.

Imagine while fighting corruption is key pledge... Winnie Guchu and Davis Chirchir - suspects in corruption & 2013 rigging - are Jubilee Chief Agents.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kadame5 on July 31, 2017, 12:49:10 PM
that is funny.. I read it on Facebook and thought it was a lie.. But someone claimed to have seen him drunk as skunk in Roysambu.. Lol Kenya is full of circus

Who and where is this reported? I'm beginning to get lost even on this board btw news and opinions/speculations. Guys, I think when you are reporting something here like a fact (and not an opinion), you should make it clear. So far, all I've seen is a tweet with the picture of Moses Kuria and those cars saying the guy was enjoying himself. Kenyans on social media are so irresponsible, I can imagine his family feeling relieved/happy that he has been sighted alive and well somewhere, only to discover it was something carelessly posted on twitter for likes.

In other news, if he was in Rosambu, shouldn't they have found him by now? It doesn't seem like this is his thing, disappearing this way, or his wife would not have gone to the police on Sunday to report him missing. If he did just vanish to do something silly like be with his mpango wa kando at a time like this, that shows he's not very responsible or mindful of the delicate time we are in.

I hope he is well and that his wife will see him soon. If he was with a mpango wa kando, I would find it hilarious that he has been caught in front of the whole nation...but until he's found well and alive, I can't go there as yet.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 01:09:14 PM
Kadame

When a man disappears (we haven't had any or many women) and the police start planting silly stories in the media, making sporadic "discoveries" here and there while going through the motions of a thorough investigation about to make a break through, expect a corpse.
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: Kadame5 on July 31, 2017, 02:06:31 PM
Kadame

When a man disappears (we haven't had any or many women) and the police start planting silly stories in the media, making sporadic "discoveries" here and there while going through the motions of a thorough investigation about to make a break through, expect a corpse.
How I wish you were wrong. It appears you were right. How can someone cut off his arm? What psycopaths are these? What for? Won't everyone die eventually?
Title: Re: IEBC: One of Our IT Experts Gone Missing hahahaha
Post by: vooke on July 31, 2017, 02:06:40 PM
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