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Title: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: Omollo on July 20, 2017, 06:38:31 PM
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Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: Nefertiti on July 20, 2017, 06:43:05 PM
NASA with their failure to zone swing counties will still end up with few MPs in places like Nairobi due to splitting.
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: Omollo on July 20, 2017, 06:46:00 PM
According to this, Nairobi is a done deal with NASA likely to carry 13 seats (including Mathare).

I do not believe the Kasarani figures.
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: RV Pundit on July 20, 2017, 06:50:10 PM
Moas is there because we know polls are not accurate enough.Nasa will carry Nairobi in pork n women rep but will lose governor n senator.I don't see much change from 2013 when Raila got 52 with Uhuru 46.As for Parliament race like 2013 I expect jubilee to win 10 out of 17 coz NASa have presented multiple candidate s..for example ruaraka where luos n luhyas dominate in korogocho, lucky summer n baba dogo...kajwang is fighting with anc iron lady of mathare north..so jubilee with 40 percent will sneak in...the same is through in many Nairobi seats.Nasa failure to present joint candidates or odious ones like Kidero or sifuna is their undoing in Nairobi and many places.
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: Omollo on July 20, 2017, 06:53:00 PM
The problem is you have not fully internalized, accepted, acknowledged, appreciated, considered, weighed, looked into, discovered, scrutinized or investigated the much talked about rigging.

NASA with their failure to zone swing counties will still end up with few MPs in places like Nairobi due to splitting.
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: Nefertiti on July 20, 2017, 09:48:53 PM
I think NASA rigging claims have been restricted to the presidency. We are talking MPs here where 2013 folks like Kamanda in Starehe sneaked thru when ODM and Wiper split the CORD vote. Same as other areas. This is a repeat of that blunder

The problem is you have not fully internalized, accepted, acknowledged, appreciated, considered, weighed, looked into, discovered, scrutinized or investigated the much talked about rigging.

NASA with their failure to zone swing counties will still end up with few MPs in places like Nairobi due to splitting.
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: Omollo on July 20, 2017, 09:55:41 PM

Starehe is a Jubilee stronghold. Perhaps the Kikuyu Mbogo may make it by getting some top up votes from his people. There is that activist Boniface Mwangi who has steered clear of criticising Jubilee.

Jaguar is there for Jubilee but it looks like he isn't running a strong campaign. I think Jubilee were right to try to force Kamanda in.

I think the courts should basically stay out of party nominations. It is not their business.

I think NASA rigging claims have been restricted to the presidency. We are talking MPs here where 2013 folks like Kamanda in Starehe sneaked thru when ODM and Wiper split the CORD vote. Same as other areas. This is a repeat of that blunder

The problem is you have not fully internalized, accepted, acknowledged, appreciated, considered, weighed, looked into, discovered, scrutinized or investigated the much talked about rigging.

NASA with their failure to zone swing counties will still end up with few MPs in places like Nairobi due to splitting.
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: patel on July 21, 2017, 01:08:07 AM
political competition should always be encouraged only voting robots vote for a party.
Btw Mps are a dime a dozen, no loyalty to political parties.


NASA with their failure to zone swing counties will still end up with few MPs in places like Nairobi due to splitting.
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: vooke on July 21, 2017, 09:10:37 AM

Starehe is a Jubilee stronghold. Perhaps the Kikuyu Mbogo may make it by getting some top up votes from his people. There is that activist Boniface Mwangi who has steered clear of criticising Jubilee.

Jaguar is there for Jubilee but it looks like he isn't running a strong campaign. I think Jubilee were right to try to force Kamanda in.

I think the courts should basically stay out of party nominations. It is not their business.

I think NASA rigging claims have been restricted to the presidency. We are talking MPs here where 2013 folks like Kamanda in Starehe sneaked thru when ODM and Wiper split the CORD vote. Same as other areas. This is a repeat of that blunder

The problem is you have not fully internalized, accepted, acknowledged, appreciated, considered, weighed, looked into, discovered, scrutinized or investigated the much talked about rigging.

NASA with their failure to zone swing counties will still end up with few MPs in places like Nairobi due to splitting.

BM has lashed out at government severally including the famous Langata Primary incidence. I'm surprised NASWA finds no common ground with him. But then again, BM can't fit in a box and no sooner than he settles in NASWA will he hurl invectives.

I wish him well over the conman socialite Mbogo and one-hit loser murderer Jaguar. But I sure as hell know he won't do nothing in parliament
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: Nefertiti on July 21, 2017, 02:20:44 PM
BM has lashed out at government severally including the famous Langata Primary incidence. I'm surprised NASWA finds no common ground with him. But then again, BM can't fit in a box and no sooner than he settles in NASWA will he hurl invectives.

I wish him well over the conman socialite Mbogo and one-hit loser murderer Jaguar. But I sure as hell know he won't do nothing in parliament

Ideologues like Boniface Mwangi are only good as activists. A leader needs a plan and the ability to mobilize resources and cooperation for delivery. The only one of these youngsters with some capacity is Steve Mbogo. On the ground he's a Sonkoesque character with multiple small initiatives for locals.
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: vooke on July 21, 2017, 02:40:51 PM
BM has lashed out at government severally including the famous Langata Primary incidence. I'm surprised NASWA finds no common ground with him. But then again, BM can't fit in a box and no sooner than he settles in NASWA will he hurl invectives.

I wish him well over the conman socialite Mbogo and one-hit loser murderer Jaguar. But I sure as hell know he won't do nothing in parliament

Ideologues like Boniface Mwangi are only good as activists. A leader needs a plan and the ability to mobilize resources and cooperation for delivery. The only one of these youngsters with some capacity is Steve Mbogo. On the ground he's a Sonkoesque character with multiple small initiatives for locals.

Mbogo has never done nothing for nobody to the best of my knowledge.

Why BM will get nowhere in parliament is legislation requires teamwork and if he goes against Junilee and NASA, he will be sponsoring bills alone and they won't get nowhere. The most being an MP can afford him is lesser humiliation by cops during protests
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 21, 2017, 05:51:40 PM
BM has lashed out at government severally including the famous Langata Primary incidence. I'm surprised NASWA finds no common ground with him. But then again, BM can't fit in a box and no sooner than he settles in NASWA will he hurl invectives.

I wish him well over the conman socialite Mbogo and one-hit loser murderer Jaguar. But I sure as hell know he won't do nothing in parliament

He is also too transparent for wanjiku's tastes.  Wanjiku, especially in Nairobi, loves them fetid.
Title: Re: Pundits MOAS vs Reality
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 21, 2017, 05:54:48 PM

Mbogo has never done nothing for nobody to the best of my knowledge.

Why BM will get nowhere in parliament is legislation requires teamwork and if he goes against Junilee and NASA, he will be sponsoring bills alone and they won't get nowhere. The most being an MP can afford him is lesser humiliation by cops during protests

When they get into parliament they usually change.  The Orengos, Kiraitu Murungis, Martha Karuas... were industrial strength BMs back in the day.