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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on July 16, 2017, 09:54:06 PM

Title: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 16, 2017, 09:54:06 PM
You heard it from Omollo first. That will be the story of the coming weeks.

They are already marked for Uhuru and they are holding discussions with KDF to deliver them. They have not reached an understanding.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2017, 10:12:18 PM
So what's the story with Al Ghurair if the fake ballots are already done? -what's the NASA beef?
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 16, 2017, 10:39:48 PM
So what's the story with Al Ghurair if the fake ballots are already done? -what's the NASA beef?

The idea is to take witnesses to Dubai and make a show of not having extra ballots when in reality they are already here. They were the first to be printed.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2017, 10:41:25 PM
God help us.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 16, 2017, 10:44:17 PM
So what's the story with Al Ghurair if the fake ballots are already done? -what's the NASA beef?

The idea is to take witnesses to Dubai and make a show of not having extra ballots when in reality they are already here. They were the first to be printed.


I don't understand this bit.  If I hypothetically have more ballots, I simply won't show you the extra ones or when I am making them.  I am not sure why anybody makes this point.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 16, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
I don't understand this bit.  If I hypothetically have more ballots, I simply won't show you the extra ones or when I am making them.  I am not sure why anybody makes this point.

The IEBC has been all over the place offering to take representatives from stakeholders to oversee the printing. This has been one of their most repeated piece of propaganda. NASA realized and snubbed it and instead went to court.

Now the witnesses were to be hoodwinked and even testify to there having been no extra ballots when they were already in Kenya. They arrived a few days ago. According to the IEBC timeline, the printing of Presidential ballots takes place from 18th. So witnessed would have been taken on a goose ride.

Anyway, this blowing up big time in the next few hours of days.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: vooke on July 16, 2017, 11:28:01 PM
Weed
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2017, 07:15:43 AM
Bhangi kweli
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: vooke on July 17, 2017, 09:46:57 AM
NASA is simply apologizing to their fanatics for the thrashing they are about to receive.


Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2017, 10:37:22 AM
Precisely.
NASA is simply apologizing to their fanatics for the thrashing they are about to receive.


Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 17, 2017, 11:30:21 AM
The ballot papers were moved to Bomas in several secure and unmarked cars under heavy military escort after the information broke out.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 17, 2017, 11:38:14 AM
Any other issue and you would have demanded an investigation etc. But on this one you choose to lower your thinking to the level of a confirmed RETARD with knee-jack reactions.

Note, the fact that these matters are raised does not mean NASA is scared. You were active in 2007 when Kibaki started carrying out similar schemes. They were denied until people were caught in Homa Bay with ballot papers and lynched; Then another group was caught in Eldoret and they fled leaving behind the papers.

In the end , Kibaki did not win but had to resort to open and primitive rigging which any Retard if asked will deny happened!

NASA is monitoring all rigging schemes and blocking them. Let's see how the ballots will move or stay at Bomas. Pundit is there a plan we have not discovered? I doubt it. :D :D :D

BTW what was El Mavi El Maawy really doing in Lamu?
Precisely.
NASA is simply apologizing to their fanatics for the thrashing they are about to receive.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
You have zero credibility. Keep yarn going on. El Maawy actually comes from Lamu. Next propaganda.
Any other issue and you would have demanded an investigation etc. But on this one you choose to lower your thinking to the level of a confirmed RETARD with knee-jack reactions.

Note, the fact that these matters are raised does not mean NASA is scared. You were active in 2007 when Kibaki started carrying out similar schemes. They were denied until people were caught in Homa Bay with ballot papers and lynched; Then another group was caught in Eldoret and they fled leaving behind the papers.

In the end , Kibaki did not win but had to resort to open and primitive rigging which any Retard if asked will deny happened!

NASA is monitoring all rigging schemes and blocking them. Let's see how the ballots will move or stay at Bomas. Pundit is there a plan we have not discovered? I doubt it. :D :D :D

BTW what was El Mavi El Maawy really doing in Lamu?
Precisely.
NASA is simply apologizing to their fanatics for the thrashing they are about to receive.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 17, 2017, 02:00:56 PM

You have zero credibility. Keep yarn going on. El Maawy actually comes from Lamu. Next propaganda.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: vooke on July 17, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
Any other issue and you would have demanded an investigation etc. But on this one you choose to lower your thinking to the level of a confirmed RETARD with knee-jack reactions.

Note, the fact that these matters are raised does not mean NASA is scared. You were active in 2007 when Kibaki started carrying out similar schemes. They were denied until people were caught in Homa Bay with ballot papers and lynched; Then another group was caught in Eldoret and they fled leaving behind the papers.

In the end , Kibaki did not win but had to resort to open and primitive rigging which any Retard if asked will deny happened!

NASA is monitoring all rigging schemes and blocking them. Let's see how the ballots will move or stay at Bomas. Pundit is there a plan we have not discovered? I doubt it. :D :D :D

BTW what was El Mavi El Maawy really doing in Lamu?
Precisely.
NASA is simply apologizing to their fanatics for the thrashing they are about to receive.

If we interrupt this moron, we better shop for another comedian to tickle us

God keep Omorlo alive
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 17, 2017, 02:11:44 PM
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2017, 03:33:45 PM
Now that is place to watch - I talked to an AP who was based in Mandera - and he swear rigging was rampant there. Later on I read Prof Hornsby also doubting the figures. Those mandera figures where Uhuru scored 93% was something. Basically after elders agreed to share the seats - there was just a mock election - where Jubilee were assigned all votes.

If NASA were half serious - they would be spending time watching remote places - where due to the nature of terrain & insecurity - anything can be done - including fake polling stations in middle of the forest.

Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 17, 2017, 05:40:35 PM
Pundit

It shows you have barely been reading what I write before you respond dismissively.

The places Ksrangi is arranging for theft are:

Mandera
Waji
Isiolo
Marsabit
Tana River
 Lamu
Turkana


Garissa is on and off the list.

The following places Uhuru plans to use Matiangi to forcefully get at least 25%

Kisii
 Nyamira
Kilifi
Kale
Machakos

I was surprised by machakos being on the list.


Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2017, 05:48:33 PM
I don't read nonsense. My nonsense radar is ever on. I know how love to twist and turn.
Pundit

It shows you have barely been reading what I write before you respond dismissively.

The places Ksrangi is arranging for theft are:

Mandera
Waji
Isiolo
Marsabit
Tana River
 Lamu
Turkana


Garissa is on and off the list.

The following places Uhuru plans to use Matiangi to forcefully get at least 25%

Kisii
 Nyamira
Kilifi
Kale
Machakos

I was surprised by machakos being on the list.



Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Nefertiti on July 17, 2017, 05:51:55 PM
Finally admission of 2013 rigging... outside the 'strongholds'. Were CORD agents napping?

Now that is place to watch - I talked to an AP who was based in Mandera - and he swear rigging was rampant there. Later on I read Prof Hornsby also doubting the figures. Those mandera figures where Uhuru scored 93% was something. Basically after elders agreed to share the seats - there was just a mock election - where Jubilee were assigned all votes.

If NASA were half serious - they would be spending time watching remote places - where due to the nature of terrain & insecurity - anything can be done - including fake polling stations in middle of the forest.

Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 17, 2017, 06:27:43 PM
I am glad he has admitted that. I have been going through the archives to find his very words when Mandera was raised.

It was Isaac Hassan's gift to Abdikadir - his law firm partner who had been rejected by the elders and he decided to hit back. I think his future over there is completely dim.

So if Uhuru scrapped through with "nearly 100K" where does that leave the first round win?

(http://omollosview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Mandera-Results-2013.jpg)
Finally admission of 2013 rigging... outside the 'strongholds'. Were CORD agents napping?

Now that is place to watch - I talked to an AP who was based in Mandera - and he swear rigging was rampant there. Later on I read Prof Hornsby also doubting the figures. Those mandera figures where Uhuru scored 93% was something. Basically after elders agreed to share the seats - there was just a mock election - where Jubilee were assigned all votes.

If NASA were half serious - they would be spending time watching remote places - where due to the nature of terrain & insecurity - anything can be done - including fake polling stations in middle of the forest.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2017, 06:28:49 PM
It just conjecture. No evidence.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2017, 06:34:39 PM
If you check my 2013 moas I predicted Uhuru would carry Mandera after the clans leadership endorsed the urp line up.I think mandera rigged the census n used the same expertise to rig for urp.Of course we have no evidence.I also believe Luo Nyanza rigged with homabay posting 95% turn out which seems to get worse with 23k double registration now. I know Kalenjin n kikuyus do collude n rig.Unlike you I don't tell lies.What for.I want free n fair elections... Watch Luo Nyanza,Kalenjin,GEMA and remote places...anywhere where one party enjoy such support the hired iebc or agents will be just be compromised. Remote places are light outs...anything goes.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: RV Pundit on July 17, 2017, 06:46:02 PM
You don't need rocket science to know homa bay rigged.Australia with compulsory voting struggles to get 90% turn out and yet homabay got 95%.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: patel on July 17, 2017, 07:42:55 PM
Clean and audited Voter register will be crucial also returning officers and poll agents should be ready to explain votes discrepancy where you have more presidential votes than other candidates 
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: vooke on July 17, 2017, 08:49:27 PM
I don't read nonsense. My nonsense radar is ever on. I know how love to twist and turn.
Pundit

It shows you have barely been reading what I write before you respond dismissively.

The places Ksrangi is arranging for theft are:

Mandera
Waji
Isiolo
Marsabit
Tana River
 Lamu
Turkana


Garissa is on and off the list.

The following places Uhuru plans to use Matiangi to forcefully get at least 25%

Kisii
 Nyamira
Kilifi
Kale
Machakos

I was surprised by machakos being on the list.



Zero chills.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Nefertiti on July 18, 2017, 10:21:44 PM
Your Mandera MOAS (90% Jubilee) is based on rigged 2013 figures. Otherwise it would be 50-50 like the rest of NFD.


If you check my 2013 moas I predicted Uhuru would carry Mandera after the clans leadership endorsed the urp line up.I think mandera rigged the census n used the same expertise to rig for urp.Of course we have no evidence.I also believe Luo Nyanza rigged with homabay posting 95% turn out which seems to get worse with 23k double registration now. I know Kalenjin n kikuyus do collude n rig.Unlike you I don't tell lies.What for.I want free n fair elections... Watch Luo Nyanza,Kalenjin,GEMA and remote places...anywhere where one party enjoy such support the hired iebc or agents will be just be compromised. Remote places are light outs...anything goes.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 18, 2017, 11:05:05 PM
They apparently hoodwinked us. The papers are still at Embakasi and they will be joined tomorrow by the MCA. MP, Senate, WR, Gov and transported by Ruto's company.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Nefertiti on July 19, 2017, 12:46:51 AM
Omollo - what is the intelligence level of international election observers? Would they detect hitec cheating, say like result transmission interception? If they had meaningful evidence of foul play, would they have locus standi or be subpoenable by the Supreme Court as a witness or amicus brief?

I ask this on the assumption that veteran democratic watchdogs such as the EU must be offering not just political & logistical expertise but technology as well. What good are they otherwise?
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Nefertiti on July 19, 2017, 12:57:12 AM
NASA is documenting the trail of all this business I hope. Papers, photos and films. For later.


They apparently hoodwinked us. The papers are still at Embakasi and they will be joined tomorrow by the MCA. MP, Senate, WR, Gov and transported by Ruto's company.
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on July 19, 2017, 08:11:45 AM
Omollo - what is the intelligence level of international election observers? Would they detect hitec cheating, say like result transmission interception? If they had meaningful evidence of foul play, would they have locus standi or be subpoenable by the Supreme Court as a witness or amicus brief?

I ask this on the assumption that veteran democratic watchdogs such as the EU must be offering not just political & logistical expertise but technology as well. What good are they otherwise?
I think they are just that observers. They can be intimidated or misled. My aunt who was an observer in Kajiado told me how Saitoti rigged. He used security forces and his militia/agents to intimidate everyone and after the counting hall had been emptied of anyone who may have objected ballots were stuffed. I wonder if the observers ever raised an issue on this case. Saitoti I think ended up buying his opponent so that he didn't go to court.
Once Jubilee rigs you can bet they will use the time between the challenge and court to buy out some of NASA principals. it would easier to buy Kalonzo team and Mudavadi.

Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Omollo on July 19, 2017, 02:32:31 PM
Jubilee has repeated what happened in 2013 by setting up the same edifices near Bomas of Kenya. While the details of the infrastructure will be released later, I can share with you the publicly available information:

1. They have received support from Safaricom to lay some fibre optics. Whether these connect to the iEBC is beyond me.
2. They are being hosted on the same servers as the IEBC (by Safaricom)
3.There is talk of blue tooth link to the IEBC network at Bomas.

I do not know NASA's response but these can be disrupted, destroyed and at worst turned against them at will.

Omollo - what is the intelligence level of international election observers? Would they detect hitec cheating, say like result transmission interception? If they had meaningful evidence of foul play, would they have locus standi or be subpoenable by the Supreme Court as a witness or amicus brief?

I ask this on the assumption that veteran democratic watchdogs such as the EU must be offering not just political & logistical expertise but technology as well. What good are they otherwise?
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: RV Pundit on July 19, 2017, 03:07:03 PM
The transmission and tallying center remain - with adjustment that whatever RO will send will be final.
Jubilee has repeated what happened in 2013 by setting up the same edifices near Bomas of Kenya. While the details of the infrastructure will be released later, I can share with you the publicly available information:

1. They have received support from Safaricom to lay some fibre optics. Whether these connect to the iEBC is beyond me.
2. They are being hosted on the same servers as the IEBC (by Safaricom)
3.There is talk of blue tooth link to the IEBC network at Bomas.

I do not know NASA's response but these can be disrupted, destroyed and at worst turned against them at will.

Omollo - what is the intelligence level of international election observers? Would they detect hitec cheating, say like result transmission interception? If they had meaningful evidence of foul play, would they have locus standi or be subpoenable by the Supreme Court as a witness or amicus brief?

I ask this on the assumption that veteran democratic watchdogs such as the EU must be offering not just political & logistical expertise but technology as well. What good are they otherwise?
Title: Re: 2.5 Million Presidential Ballots at Embakasi
Post by: Nefertiti on July 19, 2017, 07:27:15 PM
Omollo yawa. you don't exactly answer me on the observers - their capacity and legal disposition.