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Very funnyThe rigging options are diminishing everyday:
]The rigging options are diminishing everyday:
1. Issac Hassan removed now privately hired by jubilee
2. Reduced polling station voters to 500 later upped to 700 by jubilee for obvious reasons
3. Got the register audited even if badly but got some dark corners lit
4. Got Results declared at constituency declared to be final by the courts
5. Exposed jubilee as seeking ballot papers to rig. Otherwise exposed the dogged determination to award tender to Al Ghurair
6. Provoked and engineered them to overspend and waste resources just when the race is starting for real
Very good. Don't come crying on 9th about rigging then.]The rigging options are diminishing everyday:
1. Issac Hassan removed now privately hired by jubilee
2. Reduced polling station voters to 500 later upped to 700 by jubilee for obvious reasons
3. Got the register audited even if badly but got some dark corners lit
4. Got Results declared at constituency declared to be final by the courts
5. Exposed jubilee as seeking ballot papers to rig. Otherwise exposed the dogged determination to award tender to Al Ghurair
6. Provoked and engineered them to overspend and waste resources just when the race is starting for real
I have a feeling Kenya will be back to maandamano. and violence after 8th Aug, or whenever the elections will be held. Welcome to democracy.
It will depend on Uhuru. If he rigs like 2007 with force, there will be violence. He must know already KDF is a tribalized institution with no loyalty to that entity called "Kenya". Sending troops to kill Luos, Luhyas, Coastals and Kambas will unleash reactions that I can't predict and he can't. He would have got people fully armed and reasdy for war outside the barracks.
Similar examples:
Gen Guei of Ivory Coast and later Gbagbo. They rigged elections sure of the army. They were the losers.
Gen. Momoh: Rigged elections in Sierra Leone and started a spiral of events that led to his overthrow and civil war
In Malawi, the soldiers ignored Joyce Banda. Thankfully they were still in their barracks so nothing came of it and the Elections body remained highly neutral and professional.
Exceptions exist but only where the country was already a military dictatorship staging show elections.
Omollo this is real life okay? Not a game!
I said this and I am glad Raila said the same today:
We shall accept the election result:
1. If voting is entirely done by EVID / BVR
2. Ballots are NOT printed by Al Ghurair
3. Results by IEBC do not stretch over days then they claim Uhuru has wonVery good. Don't come crying on 9th about rigging then.]The rigging options are diminishing everyday:
1. Issac Hassan removed now privately hired by jubilee
2. Reduced polling station voters to 500 later upped to 700 by jubilee for obvious reasons
3. Got the register audited even if badly but got some dark corners lit
4. Got Results declared at constituency declared to be final by the courts
5. Exposed jubilee as seeking ballot papers to rig. Otherwise exposed the dogged determination to award tender to Al Ghurair
6. Provoked and engineered them to overspend and waste resources just when the race is starting for real
I have a feeling Kenya will be back to maandamano. and violence after 8th Aug, or whenever the elections will be held. Welcome to democracy.
:o. Can you please elaborate on this assumption.kindly get an alpha numeric handle. Naomba
Definitely there will be demos - but violence will be restricted maybe to slums - because there is no element of suprise after 2007. They will try demos - which police will quash with batons and tear gas - and they will try to raise international ruckus - but if election are free, fair, credible - from 3rd party observers - - Uhuru will be receiving his congratulation message the same day from all the major powers.
So ultimately you have nothing to worry. IEBC will conduct free, fair and credible elections. Jubilee will win. ODM will cause ruckus but it will be smashed quickly.
If IEBC were compromised - I would be worried - but as long as IEBC are allowed to conduct free, fair, credible and peaceful election - UhuRuto will enjoy legimitime mandate and kenyans will return back to work as Raila and Omollo spend the next 5 yrs licking their wounds - and blaming Chebukati for everything.I have a feeling Kenya will be back to maandamano. and violence after 8th Aug, or whenever the elections will be held. Welcome to democracy.
Explain to me why you're sure of riots?
If the elections have been conducted electronically with EVIDs why would anybody riot? If there is no breakdown of the voting system with results coming in for Raila and wanainchi instead seeing Uhuru's total rise while Raila's remains unchanged, why would wanainchi riot?
When you led warriors attacking and killing Kikuyus in RV was it because you saw free, fair and credible elections but just went on a murderous rampage because you had lost to Kibaki?
I notice familiar terms which remind me of the claims by Kibaki. Even he got congrats from the US ambassador which was recalled. Gbagbo went to The Hague with his congratulations from a large number of African dictators. For a while he actually believed he had French support.
Why are you so determined to have Al Ghurair print ballots? On one hand you have Ruto bragging that even specter can print then when the court says NO he leads in diatribe against Maraga and Odunga.
Poor pundit, I can share with you that the KDF path is the only one jubilee is banking on now. That will fail to or at worst backfire. Lie yenu ya fiber optic cable .... The 20 Groups ... NYs cohorts with 30 votes each... NIS with its Groups of ten intimidators, bribers and riggers....
Please respect NASA and may be we shall respect you in turn. Lete madharau Na dharau utapokea kwa pupa.
I believe IEBC are committed to conduct free, fair, credible and peaceful election. I believe Chiloba and Chebukati are committed to doing that. I don't think IEBC are somehow in bed with Jubilee. NASA allegations are without merit. IEBC have been very transparent and open - despite NASA daily attempt to sabotage their work due to mistrust.
What failed the last IEBC was filling that commission with lawyers - the failure esp to retain Chirchir who has technical expertise in running huge IT operations was critical in 2010 constitution referendum - was big MISTAKE. I said here that it was huge mistake from Raila & Kibaki to drop Chirchir. As soon as Chirchir was dropped by IEBC - TNA & URP went all out for him - he signed for Ruto's URP and when the merger was done - he became Jubilee's lead technical man - and set up a parallel tallying system that worked.
IEBC in 2013 had nobody who understood shit about systems - not in secretariat - not in commission - and they scrambled for anyone eventually running to pick Kenyan who was working in Nigeria Election commission ( Mr Ongora or somebody).
If you want a technology enabled election - which is what we need to circumvent a lot of human errors due to mistrust & corruption inherent in kenyans - then we have to hire people who are technical good - like say former IT director of Safaricom - who knows what it takes to make such a system work - to be commissioner. But we have lawyers still dominating IEBC.
I believe IEBC have learnt lessons from failures of 2013 - last time 30% of the machines & transmission worked - this time they've had enough time to really work their systems.
I expect failure of 5% - this time round - I think 95% of biometric machines for identifying voters and 95% of electronic transmission will work. It's just not realistic or reasonable to expect 100% of machines will work in all 41,000 poling stations- so manual back up will still need to be used for those 5% -- where machines malfunction or whatever.
I hope court of appeal throw the Odunga nonsense on 20th and we have free, fair, credible and peaceful election. After that - whoever win - which according to me is Uhuru - see MOAS thread and my thoughts in there - the security forces should be prepared for any violence from NASA.
Unethical and barbaric for Jubilee to chase school kids out of class done them in JB shirts to welcome Uhuru in Jomvu pic.twitter.com/gde1VIGVQY
— Abdullahi Musa (@AbdullahiRasmi) July 16, 2017
Omollo kweli. So it means by chasing Issak NASA leapt from the frying pan into the fire. Should we get aliens so that they don't get manipulated or bought out by politicians? And why can't Raila issue orders to these guys as well just like Uhuru since the commissioners are so corrupt? Did NASA object to their integrity during confirmation?
In short, I don't believe you.
I believe IEBC are committed to conduct free, fair, credible and peaceful election. I believe Chiloba and Chebukati are committed to doing that. I don't think IEBC are somehow in bed with Jubilee. NASA allegations are without merit. IEBC have been very transparent and open - despite NASA daily attempt to sabotage their work due to mistrust.
What failed the last IEBC was filling that commission with lawyers - the failure esp to retain Chirchir who has technical expertise in running huge IT operations was critical in 2010 constitution referendum - was big MISTAKE. I said here that it was huge mistake from Raila & Kibaki to drop Chirchir. As soon as Chirchir was dropped by IEBC - TNA & URP went all out for him - he signed for Ruto's URP and when the merger was done - he became Jubilee's lead technical man - and set up a parallel tallying system that worked.
IEBC in 2013 had nobody who understood shit about systems - not in secretariat - not in commission - and they scrambled for anyone eventually running to pick Kenyan who was working in Nigeria Election commission ( Mr Ongora or somebody).
If you want a technology enabled election - which is what we need to circumvent a lot of human errors due to mistrust & corruption inherent in kenyans - then we have to hire people who are technical good - like say former IT director of Safaricom - who knows what it takes to make such a system work - to be commissioner. But we have lawyers still dominating IEBC.
I believe IEBC have learnt lessons from failures of 2013 - last time 30% of the machines & transmission worked - this time they've had enough time to really work their systems.
I expect failure of 5% - this time round - I think 95% of biometric machines for identifying voters and 95% of electronic transmission will work. It's just not realistic or reasonable to expect 100% of machines will work in all 41,000 poling stations- so manual back up will still need to be used for those 5% -- where machines malfunction or whatever.
I hope court of appeal throw the Odunga nonsense on 20th and we have free, fair, credible and peaceful election. After that - whoever win - which according to me is Uhuru - see MOAS thread and my thoughts in there - the security forces should be prepared for any violence from NASA.Explain to me why you're sure of riots?
If the elections have been conducted electronically with EVIDs why would anybody riot? If there is no breakdown of the voting system with results coming in for Raila and wanainchi instead seeing Uhuru's total rise while Raila's remains unchanged, why would wanainchi riot?
When you led warriors attacking and killing Kikuyus in RV was it because you saw free, fair and credible elections but just went on a murderous rampage because you had lost to Kibaki?
I notice familiar terms which remind me of the claims by Kibaki. Even he got congrats from the US ambassador which was recalled. Gbagbo went to The Hague with his congratulations from a large number of African dictators. For a while he actually believed he had French support.
Why are you so determined to have Al Ghurair print ballots? On one hand you have Ruto bragging that even specter can print then when the court says NO he leads in diatribe against Maraga and Odunga.
Poor pundit, I can share with you that the KDF path is the only one jubilee is banking on now. That will fail to or at worst backfire. Lie yenu ya fiber optic cable .... The 20 Groups ... NYs cohorts with 30 votes each... NIS with its Groups of ten intimidators, bribers and riggers....
Please respect NASA and may be we shall respect you in turn. Lete madharau Na dharau utapokea kwa pupa.