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Title: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 04:00:50 PM
Raila's speech disrupted in Thika

Police in Thika Town have been forced to lob tear gas canisters to disperse a rowdy crowd that had started pelting stones at Nasa leader Raila Odinga's car.

Mr Odinga has been forced to leave Thika Town where he had just started to make his address.
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Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 13, 2017, 05:50:08 PM
Looks like Thika madness from where I am sitting.  They own it.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 06:19:21 PM
Kisumu goons pelted stones on Uhuru motorcade and tear-gas had to be used. I am learning Thika went an extra length and attacked NASA supporters.
Looks like Thika madness from where I am sitting.  They own it.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 13, 2017, 06:29:20 PM
He has been to Thika and Kiambu town before without incidence, what has changed? Kisumu.

Still, this is utterly primitive and unconscionable. It also messes the final stretch of the campaigns. Uhuruto will now watch their back for 'retaliation' while Babu will milk it dry hoping there is no equivalence in his strongholds.

All said, we've lost very few fools to the campaigns
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Kichwa on July 13, 2017, 07:17:35 PM

You are just mad at Kisumu because they said "hatutaki Ruto".  The luo Nyanza tour was very peaceful.  Your hatred for luos is legendary. I think Vooke's reaction is much better.  Kenya is a powder Keg and nobody holds monopoly on violence. We have to find better ways to elect our National leader and having a more inclusive government. Hopefully NASA will win and we will do a constitutional amendment to get rid of this current system of winner takes all.
 
Kisumu goons pelted stones on Uhuru motorcade and tear-gas had to be used. I am learning Thika went an extra length and attacked NASA supporters.
Looks like Thika madness from where I am sitting.  They own it.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 08:05:16 PM
Kisumu goons are on video belting Uhuru with stones.I don't engage in lies or worse hate a community.This was expected and the end result is hardened core in the strongholds.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 08:25:16 PM
Kisumu goons are on video belting Uhuru with stones.I don't engage in lies or worse hate a community.This was expected and the end result is hardened core in the strongholds.

Mr Spin

Which of the two started? Kisumu or Baringo?

If you go by the timeline Raila's team was attacked first in Baringo. The news went out - I must say the media went crazy over it. I was still wondering why when "Luos dressed in full Jubilee campaign attire" started heckling Ruto". (I will present the evidence so I don't get our resident retard on my case).

Now we have since learned that ODM youth grabbed a similar group as it approached Homa Bay to the spot where Uhuru was to open a bridge. We have the testimony of MPs led by Mambonga. They have all the details of the hired hooligans who have named Ken Obura (parttime ODM MP but full time Jubilee Mole), Tuju and other insignificant money lovers.

For you to call it the Kisumu Madness is rather disingenuous and is part of the same propaganda. Why not the Baringo Disease?

You are creating some link between what is clearly a Jubilee effort to tie Raila to violence to NASA or Kisumu.

Going by what I read in social media, you are likely to convince one retard here but nobody else in Kenya. The world is moved on. The days when lies could be spread easily and become impossible to challenge are long gone!

All is going towards fulfilling the hate Uhuru displays in this campaign video:

Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 08:30:19 PM
Kisumu goons are on video belting Uhuru with stones.I don't engage in lies or worse hate a community.This was expected and the end result is hardened core in the strongholds.
Share that video Pundit.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 08:33:42 PM
While you are still finding the video you claim shows Uhuru being pelted with stones etc, here is one from Sonko Promoting peace. Kindly watch it, there could be a surprise:

Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 08:35:38 PM
Here is the Heckling. As you can see the "NASA Supporters" are carrying Jubilee TUKO PAMOJA placards and are strategically placed close to the dais. The security do nothing and I see no stones.

Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 08:37:22 PM
On the phone.UhuRuto were in Kisumu in the morning.. Ruto was heckled..no problem.. And Uhuru motorcade stoned..watched on TV..then Baringo reacted and Thika took to new level.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 08:38:07 PM
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Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 08:39:08 PM
On the phone.UhuRuto were in Kisumu in the morning.. Ruto was heckled..no problem.. And Uhuru motorcade stoned..watched on TV..then Baringo reacted and Thika took to new level.
I am going nowhere. When you get time, you will post the timeline with the evidence.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 08:45:27 PM
On the phone.UhuRuto were in Kisumu in the morning.. Ruto was heckled..no problem.. And Uhuru motorcade stoned..watched on TV..then Baringo reacted and Thika took to new level.
I am going nowhere. When you get time, you will post the timeline with the evidence.
obviously you will twist n turn even in face of facts that before Kisumu goons triggered the violence this has largely been good campaign.Raila had been to Baringo before without any incident. Kapsoit was civil discourse with pple disagreeing with Raila allegations.He had been in kiambu without any drama.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Kichwa on July 13, 2017, 08:52:42 PM
How do you know Raila would not have been treated the same in Thika if he went there two weeks ago.  The bottom line is that Kenya is a powder keg and one day it will explode big time if we continue like this.  Nobody has monopoly over violence and you cannot continue to depend on tyranny of numbers and mta do? attitude to ran this country.  Things have to change and maybe nane nane is the date. MOAS must go!

On the phone.UhuRuto were in Kisumu in the morning.. Ruto was heckled..no problem.. And Uhuru motorcade stoned..watched on TV..then Baringo reacted and Thika took to new level.
I am going nowhere. When you get time, you will post the timeline with the evidence.
obviously you will twist n turn even in face of facts that before Kisumu goons triggered the violence this has largely been good campaign.Raila had been to Baringo before without any incident. Kapsoit was civil discourse with pple disagreeing with Raila allegations.He had been in kiambu without any drama.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 08:55:56 PM
obviously you will twist n turn even in face of facts that before Kisumu goons triggered the violence this has largely been good campaign.Raila had been to Baringo before without any incident. Kapsoit was civil discourse with pple disagreeing with Raila allegations.He had been in kiambu without any drama.
The Kisumu goons are in Jubilee attire. Explain that. NASA is - according to The Resident Retard - broke so it has no access to T shirts of it own and could not print Jubilee T shirts.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 09:00:24 PM
Just search Kisumu Uhuru rally n follow the link to the star article...and you'll know the Genesis is Kisumu which with kibera enjoy that reputation anyway.NASa are beating war drums but are they ready for war.if course not.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 09:01:28 PM
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 09:02:43 PM
Now it's t-shirts like you need membership card to waer one.obviously they are not jubilee because they cheered n stone jubilee leadership.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 09:04:17 PM
Pundit

How is NASA beating war drums? By having its Presidential candidate chased and pelted? Have a look at the video. Unlike you I present evidence for what I say.é I am still waiting for the video of Uhuru being pelted. The last time two kids moved too close in Serem, they were gunned down in cold blood by his security.


Just search Kisumu Uhuru rally n follow the link to the star article...and you'll know the Genesis is Kisumu which with kibera enjoy that reputation anyway.NASa are beating war drums but are they ready for war.if course not.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 09:04:31 PM
My last on this before I resume drinking.Kisumu as always started this but will not finish it.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 09:06:23 PM
Pundit

How is NASA beating war drums? By having its Presidential candidate chased and pelted? Have a look at the video. Unlike you I present evidence for what I say.é I am still waiting for the video of Uhuru being pelted. The last time two kids moved too close in Serem, they were gunned down in cold blood by his security.


Just search Kisumu Uhuru rally n follow the link to the star article...and you'll know the Genesis is Kisumu which with kibera enjoy that reputation anyway.NASa are beating war drums but are they ready for war.if course not.
search Google it.I watched it on news channels. Stones.tear gas.shouldn't be hard
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 09:06:37 PM
Now it's t-shirts like you need membership card to waer one.obviously they are not jubilee because they cheered n stone jubilee leadership.

Can we wait with the stoning until you have produced the evidence?
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 09:09:05 PM
Don't a.hole.stonning is in video aired by bloody TV channel I watched.Kisumu has to change that narrative and maybe Raila will be somewhere now not wilderness.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 09:11:06 PM
search Google it.I watched it on news channels. Stones.tear gas.shouldn't be hard

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Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 13, 2017, 09:13:02 PM
I gave you plenty of time to calm down and then post the video where Uhuru Kenyatta is being pelted with stones. I have posted my evidence of Raila Odinga being pelted with rocks by youth in Thika

Don't a.hole.stonning is in video aired by bloody TV channel I watched.Kisumu has to change that narrative and maybe Raila will be somewhere now not wilderness.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2017, 09:17:06 PM
Try Kisumu Uhuru rally a.hole
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 13, 2017, 10:06:40 PM
obviously you will twist n turn even in face of facts that before Kisumu goons triggered the violence this has largely been good campaign.Raila had been to Baringo before without any incident. Kapsoit was civil discourse with pple disagreeing with Raila allegations.He had been in kiambu without any drama.
The Kisumu goons are in Jubilee attire. Explain that. NASA is - according to The Resident Retard - broke so it has no access to T shirts of it own and could not print Jubilee T shirts.

Don't be a moron, how do you tell a Jubilee supporter form a NASA when distributing t-shirts?

Do t-shirts make voters your supporters?
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 13, 2017, 10:10:51 PM


A hooligan in Baringo was quite clear that they were retaliating Kisumu. Getting it shortly
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 13, 2017, 10:22:08 PM
Watch from 1:12 some hooligans explaining that they were provoked by Kisumu.




Omorlo you need to grow up sometimes and help me to stop confusing you for the rabid Babu fanatic which you evidently are
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 13, 2017, 10:24:08 PM

Don't be a moron, how do you tell a Jubilee supporter form a NASA when distributing t-shirts?

Do t-shirts make voters your supporters?

Given that there is also nothing stopping a jubilant(or a paid up NASA supporter) from screaming Raila Tibim, it seems inconclusive.  That they were not shot with bullets would seem to suggest that the police were not completely freaked out.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 13, 2017, 10:35:09 PM

Don't be a moron, how do you tell a Jubilee supporter form a NASA when distributing t-shirts?

Do t-shirts make voters your supporters?

Given that there is also nothing stopping a jubilant(or a paid up NASA supporter) from screaming Raila Tibim, it seems inconclusive.  That they were not shot with bullets would seem to suggest that the police were not completely freaked out.

Baba hired goons to disrupt his meeting in Thika to 'balance' the hostility that met Uhuru in Kisumu
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 13, 2017, 10:39:36 PM

Don't be a moron, how do you tell a Jubilee supporter form a NASA when distributing t-shirts?

Do t-shirts make voters your supporters?

Given that there is also nothing stopping a jubilant(or a paid up NASA supporter) from screaming Raila Tibim, it seems inconclusive.  That they were not shot with bullets would seem to suggest that the police were not completely freaked out.

Baba hired goons to disrupt his meeting in Thika to 'balance' the hostility that met Uhuru in Kisumu

Nothing stopping anyone from saying this or actually believing it.  Neither does it stop others from seeing that it is evidence-free.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 13, 2017, 10:46:29 PM

Don't be a moron, how do you tell a Jubilee supporter form a NASA when distributing t-shirts?

Do t-shirts make voters your supporters?

Given that there is also nothing stopping a jubilant(or a paid up NASA supporter) from screaming Raila Tibim, it seems inconclusive.  That they were not shot with bullets would seem to suggest that the police were not completely freaked out.

Baba hired goons to disrupt his meeting in Thika to 'balance' the hostility that met Uhuru in Kisumu

Nothing stopping anyone from saying this or actually believing it.  Neither does it stop others from seeing that it is evidence-free.
Is my statement more conclusive than Milllie's?
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 14, 2017, 07:49:46 AM
I guess we have concluded that Kisumu started this. Raila has been to Baringo and Kiambu before without incident.

Thika goons are saying it's a payback.
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/07/14/thika-thugs-disrupt-raila-rally-say-its-payback-for-kisumu_c1596650
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 14, 2017, 02:12:15 PM
I don't see any Uhuru or Ruto in the first video. And why are they dressed up in Jubilee uniform? They would sound better if dressed in ODM attire.
A hooligan in Baringo was quite clear that they were retaliating Kisumu. Getting it shortly
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 14, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
I don't see any Uhuru or Ruto in the first video. And why are they dressed up in Jubilee uniform? They would sound better if dressed in ODM attire.
A hooligan in Baringo was quite clear that they were retaliating Kisumu. Getting it shortly
Or on the second one. That was a voice over
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Kichwa on July 14, 2017, 02:32:27 PM
There are several reasons why being "provoked" is never accepted as a defense of a criminal action.  One of them is that it is "self serving" .  If you are sincere about being against political violence then you should condemn all political violence whenever they occur without childish qualifications.


I don't see any Uhuru or Ruto in the first video. And why are they dressed up in Jubilee uniform? They would sound better if dressed in ODM attire.
A hooligan in Baringo was quite clear that they were retaliating Kisumu. Getting it shortly
Or on the second one. That was a voice over
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 14, 2017, 02:39:00 PM
There are several reasons why being "provoked" is never accepted as a defense of a criminal action.  One of them is that it is "self serving" .  If you are sincere about being against political violence then you should condemn all political violence whenever they occur without childish qualifications.


I don't see any Uhuru or Ruto in the first video. And why are they dressed up in Jubilee uniform? They would sound better if dressed in ODM attire.
A hooligan in Baringo was quite clear that they were retaliating Kisumu. Getting it shortly
Or on the second one. That was a voice over
My opinion on the issue is irrelevant to the FACT that hecklers in Baringo attributed their behavior (which I condemn) to Kisumu.

Omorlo being the moron he is attempted to dispute that Baringo followed and was caused/triggered by Kisumu. All I did was to provide evidence to this effect.

On Thika, I took the fact that Baba toured the town and Kiambu without any incidence before Kisumu to mean that the sudden violence/intolerance must have been a spillover from Kisumu.

Once again, your or my opinion on provocation is irrelevant to the facts
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 14, 2017, 05:01:11 PM
You are still pursuing your retarded thinking? I asked for evidence of the timeline. So far I have not obtained it. In the world of propaganda, one can easily get a goon to advance the "provocation" defense on TV.

My opinion on the issue is irrelevant to the FACT that hecklers in Baringo attributed their behavior (which I condemn) to Kisumu.

Omorlo being the moron he is attempted to dispute that Baringo followed and was caused/triggered by Kisumu. All I did was to provide evidence to this effect.

On Thika, I took the fact that Baba toured the town and Kiambu without any incidence before Kisumu to mean that the sudden violence/intolerance must have been a spillover from Kisumu.

Once again, your or my opinion on provocation is irrelevant to the facts
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 14, 2017, 07:14:31 PM
You are still pursuing your retarded thinking? I asked for evidence of the timeline. So far I have not obtained it. In the world of propaganda, one can easily get a goon to advance the "provocation" defense on TV.

My opinion on the issue is irrelevant to the FACT that hecklers in Baringo attributed their behavior (which I condemn) to Kisumu.

Omorlo being the moron he is attempted to dispute that Baringo followed and was caused/triggered by Kisumu. All I did was to provide evidence to this effect.

On Thika, I took the fact that Baba toured the town and Kiambu without any incidence before Kisumu to mean that the sudden violence/intolerance must have been a spillover from Kisumu.

Once again, your or my opinion on provocation is irrelevant to the facts
Moron, they blamed an incident that had yet to happen. Ok
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
I understand you are exercising sarcasm. However I would like to repeat: In this age of massive propaganda where one hires Cambridge Analytica etc, it is possible for goons to be told what to say. I cannot take the word of a goon as proof of anything.

I even have problems taking Uhuru and Ruto seriously because of their history of LYING.

Moron, they blamed an incident that had yet to happen. Ok
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 14, 2017, 08:32:42 PM
I understand you are exercising sarcasm. However I would like to repeat: In this age of massive propaganda where one hires Cambridge Analytica etc, it is possible for goons to be told what to say. I cannot take the word of a goon as proof of anything.

I even have problems taking Uhuru and Ruto seriously because of their history of LYING.

Moron, they blamed an incident that had yet to happen. Ok

What time were Uhuruto heckled ? And before you answer, would you be satisfied if it is demonstrated that Kabarnet followed Kisumu? In short what makes evidence?
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 15, 2017, 02:08:26 AM
I understand you are exercising sarcasm. However I would like to repeat: In this age of massive propaganda where one hires Cambridge Analytica etc, it is possible for goons to be told what to say. I cannot take the word of a goon as proof of anything.

I even have problems taking Uhuru and Ruto seriously because of their history of LYING.

Moron, they blamed an incident that had yet to happen. Ok

What time were Uhuruto heckled ? And before you answer, would you be satisfied if it is demonstrated that Kabarnet followed Kisumu? In short what makes evidence?
i simply asked for evidence that proves kisumu started then others. The burden of proof doesn't lie with me: onus probandi
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 15, 2017, 09:09:36 AM
I understand you are exercising sarcasm. However I would like to repeat: In this age of massive propaganda where one hires Cambridge Analytica etc, it is possible for goons to be told what to say. I cannot take the word of a goon as proof of anything.

I even have problems taking Uhuru and Ruto seriously because of their history of LYING.

Moron, they blamed an incident that had yet to happen. Ok

What time were Uhuruto heckled ? And before you answer, would you be satisfied if it is demonstrated that Kabarnet followed Kisumu? In short what makes evidence?
i simply asked for evidence that proves kisumu started then others. The burden of proof doesn't lie with me: onus probandi
The EARLIEST report of Ruto heckling in Kisumu

The EARLIEST report of Babu getting heckled in Baringo. Follow the FB link and see the pictures. The comments are quite interesting because some attribute the hostility to Kisumu

Study the comments. So we have an NTV clip with Baringo rioters blaming Kisumu, and you have comments to the effect that Kisumu preceded Baringo and CAUSED it.

Now, continue playing obtuse which you do effortlessly
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 15, 2017, 08:24:16 PM
Thanks for your evidence. Not sure how to tell that was the first tweet or news item or report of the incident. How did you determine that it was or is the first? Is there some service that ranks them or that is the earliest YOU were able to find? Don't worry even the best of scholars make that error. Don't we know from before that Europeans used to teach our grandfathers that "the first man to see Mt. Kilimanjaro was Speke"?

Am not sure the comments about kisumu heckling say anything about the timeline.

Not that for me I don't know why it would be better for Ruto if it started in Baringo or kisumu. The story below shows it wasn't Uhuru who was targeted. It was Ruto.

Now if he was heckled in Kisumu by Jubilee supporters is it not just falling well in the recent events? He has been jeered in multiple places in Rift Valley where Uhuru has been accepted.

Why would I not say it's a Jubilee problem. The boys who jeer Ruto are wearing jubilee regalia. They're inside jubilee. They then display the same behavior as we have seen in many places. I mean I would be more surprised if Ruto was NOT jeered than if he is.

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Deputy President William Ruto was today shouted down and could not be allowed to address the gathering as he tried to introduce President Uhuru Kenyatta to launch the Kisumu EABL plant.

The crowd chanted NASA slogan and others sang “We don’t want Ruto” as he wanted to speak before ushering the President to launch  the plant.

Despite many wearing Jubilee T-shirts, they remained firm not to allow DP Ruto to speak until he let the President address the agitated crowd.

They  quietened down and listened to the Uhuru who spoke in a conciliatory manner expressing his willingness to unify the country. He told the residents that they were free to vote for people of their choice.

The area is a NASA stronghold where the opposition flag bearer Raila Odinga enjoys fanatical support.

Meanwhile the National Super Alliance (NASA) rally led by Raila and other NASA pentagon Members Musalia Mudavadi, and Isaac Ruto was disrupted in Kabarnet grounds in Baringo County. They were heckled as they tried to address the crowd.

They were forced to cut short the rally and headed to Eldama Ravine town. Baringo is perceived to be a Jubilee Party zone where area senator Gideon Moi who is the Kanu chairman is campaigning for the re-election of President Kenyatta.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 15, 2017, 08:55:46 PM
Vooke - just give up - Omollo will twist and fabricate facts - he simply lacks the honour to admit a mistake. The heckling & violence started in Kisumu.
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 15, 2017, 09:28:39 PM
Vooke - just give up - Omollo will twist and fabricate facts - he simply lacks the honour to admit a mistake. The heckling & violence started in Kisumu.
... and you base that one what fact?
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2017, 09:29:12 AM
On the simple fact that Uhuru was in Kisumu early morning (he had to open IAAF u18 championship in Nairobi late that afternoon so was in Mbita by 8am) and Railla in Baringo in the afternoon. Stop being a moron. If you can help it. And Raila had been to Baringo & Kiambu before without incident - you had pictures even declaring Baringo a NASA stronghold :).

In short Kisumu started it  -  and should end it.

... and you base that one what fact?
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 16, 2017, 09:21:13 PM
Thanks for your evidence. Not sure how to tell that was the first tweet or news item or report of the incident. How did you determine that it was or is the first? Is there some service that ranks them or that is the earliest YOU were able to find? Don't worry even the best of scholars make that error. Don't we know from before that Europeans used to teach our grandfathers that "the first man to see Mt. Kilimanjaro was Speke"?

Am not sure the comments about kisumu heckling say anything about the timeline.

Not that for me I don't know why it would be better for Ruto if it started in Baringo or kisumu. The story below shows it wasn't Uhuru who was targeted. It was Ruto.

Now if he was heckled in Kisumu by Jubilee supporters is it not just falling well in the recent events? He has been jeered in multiple places in Rift Valley where Uhuru has been accepted.

Why would I not say it's a Jubilee problem. The boys who jeer Ruto are wearing jubilee regalia. They're inside jubilee. They then display the same behavior as we have seen in many places. I mean I would be more surprised if Ruto was NOT jeered than if he is.

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Deputy President William Ruto was today shouted down and could not be allowed to address the gathering as he tried to introduce President Uhuru Kenyatta to launch the Kisumu EABL plant.

The crowd chanted NASA slogan and others sang “We don’t want Ruto” as he wanted to speak before ushering the President to launch  the plant.

Despite many wearing Jubilee T-shirts, they remained firm not to allow DP Ruto to speak until he let the President address the agitated crowd.

They  quietened down and listened to the Uhuru who spoke in a conciliatory manner expressing his willingness to unify the country. He told the residents that they were free to vote for people of their choice.

The area is a NASA stronghold where the opposition flag bearer Raila Odinga enjoys fanatical support.

Meanwhile the National Super Alliance (NASA) rally led by Raila and other NASA pentagon Members Musalia Mudavadi, and Isaac Ruto was disrupted in Kabarnet grounds in Baringo County. They were heckled as they tried to address the crowd.

They were forced to cut short the rally and headed to Eldama Ravine town. Baringo is perceived to be a Jubilee Party zone where area senator Gideon Moi who is the Kanu chairman is campaigning for the re-election of President Kenyatta.
Google is a wonderful tool. If you can get me an earlier tweet of Facebook post or YouTube clip contradicting me, I will honorably bow out
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 16, 2017, 10:04:33 PM
I simply asked you how you determined that that was the first tweet. You can just share your method. If it worked for you, it would work for anybody else - basic research.

Then remember:  Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat
Google is a wonderful tool. If you can get me an earlier tweet of Facebook post or YouTube clip contradicting me, I will honorably bow out
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: vooke on July 16, 2017, 11:17:20 PM
I simply asked you how you determined that that was the first tweet. You can just share your method. If it worked for you, it would work for anybody else - basic research.

Then remember:  Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat
Google is a wonderful tool. If you can get me an earlier tweet of Facebook post or YouTube clip contradicting me, I will honorably bow out
And I simply asked you to disproof

But all this is irrelevant. Babu will lose, refuse to go to court,go to court, lose, and die trying
Title: Re: Kisumu madness spread to Thika.
Post by: Omollo on July 17, 2017, 11:43:17 AM
Now all can see why I say you lack the intellectual gravitas to engage in a civilized debate and have the intelligence of a retard. Feel free to demand that I prove what I have just written.

And I simply asked you to disproof

But all this is irrelevant. Babu will lose, refuse to go to court,go to court, lose, and die trying