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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on May 30, 2017, 12:58:55 PM
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I think this is huge. Next we should do free university education.
There is no better investment than investing in education of our people.
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An excellent idea, but first make primary school affordable. Lots of students cant attend because parents cant afford 1k for miscellaneous expenses.
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In my "middle classs" neighborhood farm laborers cant afford these expenses so kids are in and out of school. Public education has come to be known as "poor mans" educations.
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They said it AFTER NASA announced it. Why didn't they insitute it earlier?
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Reminds me of this story:
The Treasury is returning donor money stolen from the free primary education kitty.
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“Treasury has made the decision to refund the money on behalf of the government,” Education permanent secretary James ole Kiyiapi said on Tuesday. without elaborating.
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The audit estimated that Sh8.2 billion could not be accounted for in the first phase running between 2005 and 2009.
However, the figure was scaled down to Sh4.6 billion after a review of some of the documents that had not been submitted earlier.
The audit called for removal of finance, accounting and procurement staff at the Education ministry. It also recommended that former PS Karega Mutahi should take responsibility for the loss of the billions on his watch.
Top officials in the ministry diverted the funds to private accounts and in other instances the money was withdrawn from school accounts and banked in private accounts.
Others used fake receipts and unaccounted imprests to drain the kitty. The Criminal Investigations Department is yet to conclude investigations into the scandal after it took over the case from the anti-graft agency.
Treasury spokesperson Buku Munyori said taxpayers will not lose a cent “as the culprits will be surcharged the full amount.”
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Treasury-refunds-stolen-donor-cash-/1056-1265854-gty73z/index.html
That was the last we heard of the culprits.
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They were all later "cleared".
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Really - coz I heard Uhuru or Ruto talking about this 2-3 yrs ago.
They said it AFTER NASA announced it. Why didn't they insitute it earlier?
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Anyone who believes anything coming from Jubilee at this point and time need to have their head examined. On free secondary school how will uhuru fund it? increase tax? the country is already 5 trillion in debt. This is the same govt. that could not implement computer lab in all public schools....where are 1 million jobs per year last time I checked companies were closing shops.
For anyone that wants to understand Uhuru better all they need to do is look at what happened to Peter Kenneth. Uhuru the crackhead is a petty, vengeful, tribalist and the most selfish person ever. He never forgave Peter for running for president in 2013 so he had to humiliate him in 2017.
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The day they stop treating tax money as Anne Waiguru is the day progress will be made. It's been business as usual since independence. Inflated cost of doing business with govt is the order of the day.
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Really - coz I heard Uhuru or Ruto talking about this 2-3 yrs ago.
They said it AFTER NASA announced it. Why didn't they insitute it earlier?
It was in the CORD Manifesto. CORD promised free education at all levels from primary to tertiary.
I know what you and HK will say next
It is one of those things which Neo-Primitive societies like Trump's America think they are "saving" by not investing. If you collected all the monies paid by parents as fees and then used the same for free education, cut out corruption by jailing thieving principals and bursars, you will probably only use a quarter of it.
However keep your pants off your head: Savings from corruption, better organization of funding to the schools and restoration of international funding which was damaged by Karega's theft of funds and Uhuru's arrogance when saying "we shall pay back".
The manifesto states:Through public-private partnerships, transform public education facilities at all levels to offer quality free education.
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http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Treasury-refunds-stolen-donor-cash-/1056-1265854-gty73z/index.html
That was the last we heard of the culprits.
Are you surprised? This is Kenya for you.
Btw, what happened to NYS, Rio Olympics, MAfya House scandals?
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Swept under the rag....As usual.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Treasury-refunds-stolen-donor-cash-/1056-1265854-gty73z/index.html
That was the last we heard of the culprits.
Are you surprised? This is Kenya for you.
Btw, what happened to NYS, Rio Olympics, MAfya House scandals?
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Sound lame (public-private to facilitate). Jubilee is promising and will deliver free secondary education.
Really - coz I heard Uhuru or Ruto talking about this 2-3 yrs ago.
They said it AFTER NASA announced it. Why didn't they insitute it earlier?
It was in the CORD Manifesto. CORD promised free education at all levels from primary to tertiary.
I know what you and HK will say next
It is one of those things which Neo-Primitive societies like Trump's America think they are "saving" by not investing. If you collected all the monies paid by parents as fees and then used the same for free education, cut out corruption by jailing thieving principals and bursars, you will probably only use a quarter of it.
However keep your pants off your head: Savings from corruption, better organization of funding to the schools and restoration of international funding which was damaged by Karega's theft of funds and Uhuru's arrogance when saying "we shall pay back".
The manifesto states:Through public-private partnerships, transform public education facilities at all levels to offer quality free education.
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It is a bit too late to criticize what CORD promised if it won the 2013 elections. I posted that as proof that Uhuru was copying and aping.
NASA has promised free education from primary to secondary immediately. NASA has committed to free tertiary education.
If you are suggesting that Jubilee delivers, please tell me when my local school will get laptops. I think they can accept the Mugenda pads too.
Sound lame (public-private to facilitate). Jubilee is promising and will deliver free secondary education
It was in the CORD Manifesto. CORD promised free education at all levels from primary to tertiary.[/quote]
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Pundit,
Public education stinks
Public health care stinks
Public roads stink -
SGR is ok for now.
You can provide public funding, but if its substandard what good is it?
There are more primary school drop outs than 1970s!!! That should tell you...
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If you can please take a train from Nairobi to Mombasa and back within the next two weeks. After that, you are better off taking the old train or the bus.
For starters Kenyans have a very bad reputation when it comes to abandoning new technology. They do it for various reasons among the most common:
1. Modern Technology interferes with their money making or scheming arrangements and therefore must be sabotaged to revert to the "manual" option as soon as the noise has died down. Examples: Toll stations at airports; Technology at Road weigh bridges works in Tanzania but is it doesn't in Kenya. They use a mobile unit read by a policeman who then decides what fine to levy for overloading. Most of the trucks allowed to pass from Kenya and stopped and heavily fined on the TZ side.
2. When there is no private motive (greed) it boils down to old Kenyan lethargy. Something is installed, we all marvel at it, then one day it needs simple servicing, it stops working and that is it. When you ask why is it not working? The answer: Someone is supposed to come from Nairobi to fix it. In some cases the person has come several times and each time he comes minus one key spare part.Eventually the thing is "boarded" and auctioned off to one of the staff members who fixes it the same day and it starts to mint money for him. I guess HK would say that proves the private sector is better than the public. Yeah! Good at robbing the public!
I do not expect to see the elevator working. Elevators require constant servicing. I do not know what the power source is but if it is Kenya Power then you all know why I am laughing.
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Pundit,
Public education stinks
Public health care stinks
Public roads stink -
SGR is ok for now.
You can provide public funding, but if its substandard what good is it?
There are more primary school drop outs than 1970s!!! That should tell you...
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Stink for those with options - like me and you - but not for the millions of poor kenyanms
Pundit,
Public education stinks
Public health care stinks
Public roads stink -
SGR is ok for now.
You can provide public funding, but if its substandard what good is it?
There are more primary school drop outs than 1970s!!! That should tell you...
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Joyce today presented her papers.
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Do you have any where I can actually see Joyce Laboso mwenyewe.
Joyce today presented her papers.
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Who cares which party promised first. Free education kindergarten to college is the way to go.
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Who cares which party promised first. Free education kindergarten to college is the way to go.
Jubilee and Uhuru apparently do. Yesterday he went after Raila for allegedly stealing his ideas! Jubilee promised free milk for children in schools. They did not deliver a drop. They did not promise free education.
Anyway, Raila / NASA promise to deliver free education from september while Uhuru says they'll do it in January. So why is it not in the budget? NASA makes it clear they will do a supplementary budget immediately they take power
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Who cares which party promised first. Free education kindergarten to college is the way to go.
Where will they get the money? Are they suddenly going to stop stealing a third of the annual budget?
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If you calculate how much it costs and then look at any corruption case, you'll ask yourself why this wasn't done before.
There are many benefits. For starters families get to keep about 200K annually. In am sure they would not object to paying a percentage more tax. The key is to guarantee that the taxes are properly used. Jubilee has no credibility and any tax increases would either be stolen or fund lavish overseas travel for Uhuru and Ruto. The amount spent on buying wine and alcohol at State House (not to mention bangi) can build classrooms for all those horror schools people post images of here.We shall start with the one in Thika where kids sit on stones.
Speaking of Bangi in State House, I would recommend nobody rushing in there. The fumes could start off everybody laughing.
Who cares which party promised first. Free education kindergarten to college is the way to go.
Where will they get the money? Are they suddenly going to stop stealing a third of the annual budget?
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It's good that both parties are now promising free secondary education. Let us hear free college education. This best use of taxes together with investing in Infrastructure.
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What is affordable university.
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What is affordable university.
It can take different forms. For starters all those who qualify for admission will be guaranteed loans. The status of the parents or their income will not be taken into consideration to restore equality between students and not stigmatize the loan-takers
Secondly, the loan portion of the HELB disbursements to a student will decrease progressively as the stipend portion in an inverse correlation.
Discrimination would end with money following the student. That means the same subsidies paid to public universities will be offered to private universities commensurate with the number of students enrolled. As a requirement for accepting the subsidies, the universities would undertake to curtail fee hikes and unnecessary charges.
NASA will build more hostels and bring sanity to food and Accommodation in public universities. It would make the hostels open to all students regardless of the university/ institution they are attending.
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Sound sensible. The same ought to include TIVET (Middle level Colleges). There are just too many form 4 leavers who are stuck in the villages without any skills. I think this probably our biggest problem now...transition from secondary to colleges (skills)...and it mostly come down to money (fees) and ignorance of the need to .
It can take different forms. For starters all those who qualify for admission will be guaranteed loans. The status of the parents or their income will not be taken into consideration to restore equality between students and not stigmatize the loan-takers
Secondly, the loan portion of the HELB disbursements to a student will decrease progressively as the stipend portion in an inverse correlation.
Discrimination would end with money following the student. That means the same subsidies paid to public universities will be offered to private universities commensurate with the number of students enrolled. As a requirement for accepting the subsidies, the universities would undertake to curtail fee hikes and unnecessary charges.
NASA will build more hostels and bring sanity to food and Accommodation in public universities. It would make the hostels open to all students regardless of the university/ institution they are attending.
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In a decent democracy, the sitting government would invite the opposition and quickly pass legislation to accommodate all they agree on.
It usually starts as a taunt: If you are saying that then come and join us pas it! The opposition takes up the challenge.
I asked NASA why they could not take the matter to parliament NOW and force Jubilee's hand. It is simple: If they agree, whoever wins must implement or face the consequences of being called an election period LIAR
Uhuru outlined the idea of paying interns. Three years ago, I advised them to implement the Industrial Training Act and ensure that ALL those wining government contracts hire apprentices. It was ignored. two months before elections when the eating is threatened, he is articulating a half baked policy. Interns are usually already on their way to proper employment and the only thing they lack is experience. A body is formed to secure internship for them and they do not have to be paid by the state. 90% eventually get jobs within 2 months ending the internship.
It is the apprentices that have problems completing their middle level institutional training. They need the apprenticeship to complete their course. Uhuru needed smart people around him but sadly he couldn't find in the small catchment area he chose. Too bad let him watch from his mother's living room as we fix things
Sound sensible. The same ought to include TIVET (Middle level Colleges). There are just too many form 4 leavers who are stuck in the villages without any skills. I think this probably our biggest problem now...transition from secondary to colleges (skills)...and it mostly come down to money (fees) and ignorance of the need to .
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Pundit
That is why Uhuru cannot be trusted.
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Kevit Desai appointed PS education - clear signal Jubilee are interested in TIVET/Middle colleges unlike Kibaki era of universities in every town.
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reminder