Nipate

Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on April 08, 2017, 07:29:31 PM

Title: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 08, 2017, 07:29:31 PM
He was heckled in Kisii, Narok (yesterday) and today in timid Wajir. In all those places the people shouted Raila, ODM or NASA to his face. These are what Jubilee called "Battleground Counties"! The claim to be running neck and neck with the opposition despite past performance showing otherwise.

The high court decision to take away the power of Bomas of Kenya IEBC to "verify and correct" results from around the country may have just been the last nail in Jubilee's coffin. They rely on the IEBC in Nairobi to "clean up" figures and polish where necessary to secure a win for Jubilee. The three judge bench unanimously rejected the arguments by the IEBC as well as Consigliere Githu Muigai. The Opposition now has to ensure that returning officers in 290 constituencies are not influenced by Jubilee through NIS


Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 08, 2017, 07:31:24 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 08, 2017, 07:32:55 PM
The Ethnic Rag Media puts a spin on behalf of Jubilee

Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 08, 2017, 07:33:59 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Empedocles on April 08, 2017, 08:09:03 PM
I ain't heard her singing yet.

(http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/bart-the-genius1.png?w=512&h=384)

NASA is setting themselves up for a big bad fall come August and chest thumbing 24/7 ain't gonna change a thing. With the stupidity and absolute lack of any shred of leadership skills being exhibited by Uhuru and Ruto, it's really inconceivable that Jubilee would win. But that's where I see it heading, all thanks to NASA's own stupidity and absolute lack of any shred of leadership skills.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 08, 2017, 08:26:03 PM
I ain't heard her singing yet.

NASA is setting themselves up for a big bad fall come August and chest thumbing 24/7 ain't gonna change a thing. With the stupidity and absolute lack of any shred of leadership skills being exhibited by Uhuru and Ruto, it's really inconceivable that Jubilee would win. But that's where I see it heading, all thanks to NASA's own stupidity and absolute lack of any shred of leadership skills.

Uhuru and Ruto: absolute lack of any shred of leadership skills
NASA: own stupidity and absolute lack of any shred of leadership skills

This is a perfect Dickensian Standoff.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Nefertiti on April 09, 2017, 06:33:09 AM
Jubilee looks set to loose the traditional swing regions to ODM. Without the ICC UhuRuto are exposed as hollow with no excitement... can't compare then and now. Now Uhuru is asking folks to "choose" [non-Jubilee] local party and give him PORK :D... after Mandera Jubilee Senator and Governor formed new EFP party. Going by past NEP record of sticking with Kanu this is quite desperate for the incumbent.

The BIG issue this election is opposition unity.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 09, 2017, 12:59:08 PM
Robina

I always hear about these swing regions. Unfortunately the facts never support it. Jubilee lists them as Kilifi, Kwale, Kisii, Nyamira, Turkana etc.

It is the same as Raila listing Laikipia a battleground county. Raila scored 80% of the vote in Kilifi. Such a majority takes an earthquake to vanish. However Jubilee has been listening to a professional conman - Gideon Mung'aro telling them they have the vote. He went as far as to convince them to engineer a by election to test his conviction. He lost. But Jubilee still keeps the belief and hope alive!

The same applies to Kwale. They have bought the Salim Mvurya con game. Mvurya benefitted from negotiated democracy just like Ojaamong. He comes from a minority Duruma clan. He also got the support of the Kambas who moved there in the 70s because of drought and famine. The problem is that these are Wiper supporters more loyal to Kalonzo and NASA than Mvurya. The Digos will reclaim the Governorship and assign a Duruma / Kamba the Senate seat etc and that is it. Without ODM Mvurya is dead in the water. Mwakwere could never beat ODM is a straight fight and often stole or bribed opponents. He is after all a Digo so it didn't matter much.

Uhuru scored about 30% or less of the vote in Nyamira and Kisii. Jubilee labels those counties as battleground however it does not similarly label counties where Raila scored the same or better! The sad thing is that NASA appears to have bought in to this propaganda.

Jubilee looks set to loose the traditional swing regions to ODM. Without the ICC UhuRuto are exposed as hollow with no excitement... can't compare then and now. Now Uhuru is asking folks to "choose" [non-Jubilee] local party and give him PORK :D... after Mandera Jubilee Senator and Governor formed new EFP party. Going by past NEP record of sticking with Kanu this is quite desperate for the incumbent.

The BIG issue this election is opposition unity.

Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Nefertiti on April 09, 2017, 08:15:09 PM
Omollo,

Some may have bought the propaganda but the big issue remains NASA unity. If they come asunder that's it. On the contra, a unity pact is the boost they need to rebound. There is no excitement in Jubilee except irrational fears of Raila. Uhuruto are no visionaries... no message except SGR, last mile, 2022 is our turn, etc. Boring stuff.

Silver-tongued Ruto is the boring incumbent... he has a real fight reclaiming the "swing zones" from ODM to rebuild Moi's Kanu. He is behind the propaganda. I was disappointed to see him resort to buying MPs like Moi... he has FAILED. Jubilee has no extra vote over 2013. Proper opposition turnout would do them in.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: RV Pundit on April 10, 2017, 07:43:14 AM
Talk is cheap.Jubilee is rolling down as organized as ever with nearly 8000 candidates going for nomination in 10  days.Jubilee will carry this with more votes than 2013.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 10, 2017, 11:04:43 AM
I hear you. Uhuru is today launching (again) an "information portal" which he will say Kenyans can access to get information about the many projects he has, well, launched in the last four years.

Having seen Uhuru for 4 years trying to manage public funds, I can understand why his family never let him close to the Family Finances! This guy is wasteful to the extent of making the word meaningless

NASA is unified and will stay unified. The NIS without Gichangi is more useful to NASA than Jubilee. I explain later.

The NIS propaganda has been uncoordinated and thanks to NASA sympathisers inside there the political meddling body has fed and unfed at will. I think on the matter of NASA unity the NIS has been owned squarely. I expect some retribution considering the huge amounts that NASA engineered to harvest from the useless political outfit.

Uhuru made one useful blunder which I can now state because it is too late to do anything about it. He Kikuyunized the NIS and caused the non Kikuyus in there to feel unappreciated.

Then he pumped huge sums in to the body without first determining the body's absorption capacity and expanding it. An organization with too much money is no different from one without any money. It suffers the same problems with no money as with too much money. It is Simple Management 101.

The Opposition simply organized itself to help the NIS offload the loot. Most of those who "defected" to Jubilee have either returned to the fold or are comfortable financially and wish not to risk it in politics. In Kilifi the MPs are willingly going for defeat at the polls because as one told me, I have never had so much money in my life!

Omollo,

Some may have bought the propaganda but the big issue remains NASA unity. If they come asunder that's it. On the contra, a unity pact is the boost they need to rebound. There is no excitement in Jubilee except irrational fears of Raila. Uhuruto are no visionaries... no message except SGR, last mile, 2022 is our turn, etc. Boring stuff.

Silver-tongued Ruto is the boring incumbent... he has a real fight reclaiming the "swing zones" from ODM to rebuild Moi's Kanu. He is behind the propaganda. I was disappointed to see him resort to buying MPs like Moi... he has FAILED. Jubilee has no extra vote over 2013. Proper opposition turnout would do them in.

Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Nefertiti on April 10, 2017, 11:38:36 AM
Pundit thinks Ruto is infallible. In 2013 you could feel the ground shifting against the "incumbent" Raila as Ruto hammered him hard. Raila was in panic and started meeting Kalenjin elders to beg Ruto to join him. Today we are seeing that desperation in Uhuru... asking folks to join any party of choice but support him for PORK... after spending billions to cajole them into Jubilee.

Without ICC, turnout and underdog advantage... Ruto has no magic wand and can easily be beaten. He has no fireworks unlike 2013. This ball is in NASA's court.

Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on April 10, 2017, 12:18:35 PM
I hear you. Uhuru is today launching (again) an "information portal" which he will say Kenyans can access to get information about the many projects he has, well, launched in the last four years.

Having seen Uhuru for 4 years trying to manage public funds, I can understand why his family never let him close to the Family Finances! This guy is wasteful to the extent of making the word meaningless

NASA is unified and will stay unified. The NIS without Gichangi is more useful to NASA than Jubilee. I explain later.

The NIS propaganda has been uncoordinated and thanks to NASA sympathisers inside there the political meddling body has fed and unfed at will. I think on the matter of NASA unity the NIS has been owned squarely. I expect some retribution considering the huge amounts that NASA engineered to harvest from the useless political outfit.

Uhuru made one useful blunder which I can now state because it is too late to do anything about it. He Kikuyunized the NIS and caused the non Kikuyus in there to feel unappreciated.

Then he pumped huge sums in to the body without first determining the body's absorption capacity and expanding it. An organization with too much money is no different from one without any money. It suffers the same problems with no money as with too much money. It is Simple Management 101.

The Opposition simply organized itself to help the NIS offload the loot. Most of those who "defected" to Jubilee have either returned to the fold or are comfortable financially and wish not to risk it in politics. In Kilifi the MPs are willingly going for defeat at the polls because as one told me, I have never had so much money in my life!

Omollo,

Some may have bought the propaganda but the big issue remains NASA unity. If they come asunder that's it. On the contra, a unity pact is the boost they need to rebound. There is no excitement in Jubilee except irrational fears of Raila. Uhuruto are no visionaries... no message except SGR, last mile, 2022 is our turn, etc. Boring stuff.

Silver-tongued Ruto is the boring incumbent... he has a real fight reclaiming the "swing zones" from ODM to rebuild Moi's Kanu. He is behind the propaganda. I was disappointed to see him resort to buying MPs like Moi... he has FAILED. Jubilee has no extra vote over 2013. Proper opposition turnout would do them in.


I had heard that rumour about his incompetence before.  His governance certainly confirmed it.  As chance would have it, it doesn't matter to the voting automatons.  If they haven't starved to death, they will line up early and cast for their favorite.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: RV Pundit on April 10, 2017, 01:00:04 PM
That Uhuru or UhuRuto have failed in governance is propaganda without any iota of truth. This gov has delivered in 4yrs what many gov never delivered in 20 or more years. The economy has grown at 6% per annum the last few years - making it among the world economy performers. I am talking of delivering Kenya biggest ever infrastructure project 2yrs ahead of schedule -the trans-formative SGR. I am talking about 200KMS new roads in nearly every county. I am talking about triple power (electricity) connections in 4 yrs. Security investment - Nairobi's & Mombasa CCTV & thousands of new shiny police cars - etc has turned the clock from Alshabaab hitting Nairobi every day 4yrs ago...to once yearly now. I am talking about devolving funds to all counties on time.There is reason Uhuru gov has been the most effective ever. Uhuru has kept his word. His coalition has been very very stable. He has had parliament that has been passing bills without any hindrance or shenanigans from opposition.

Opposition are mistaking the smooth very well oiled machinery that is Jubilee gov for weakness. Jubilee has meticulously planned for 2017 and as usual NASA are as disorganized as ever.

UhuRuto will win by more than 53%. Let us wait for final registered votes. All polls have consistently shown Uhuru enjoys rating above 50%. Uhuru 2013 coalition remain intact. That is given 50% plus one. And yet Uhuru has made headways in battle grounds - from COAST to KURIA - opposition leaders are joining Jubilee.

Uhuru definitely will win 50% plus all gains made in battleground counties....taking it to about 55%.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: RV Pundit on April 10, 2017, 01:34:25 PM
UhuRuto are not panicked coz they've this on the bag. It question of the margins here. The 50% 2013 coalition remain intact. They've meticulously warmed their way to those that didn't vote for them - and so expect them to reap 3-5% points more.
Pundit thinks Ruto is infallible. In 2013 you could feel the ground shifting against the "incumbent" Raila as Ruto hammered him hard. Raila was in panic and started meeting Kalenjin elders to beg Ruto to join him. Today we are seeing that desperation in Uhuru... asking folks to join any party of choice but support him for PORK... after spending billions to cajole them into Jubilee.

Without ICC, turnout and underdog advantage... Ruto has no magic wand and can easily be beaten. He has no fireworks unlike 2013. This ball is in NASA's court.


Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 10, 2017, 02:42:09 PM
Pundit

I understand you must defend Uhuru because you hold the now dead hope that Uhuru will endorse Ruto so "William can have his ten years" as president of Kenya. One is allowed to dream. Even Kichwa Mbaya once had a similar dream of Kibaki holding Raila's hand and asking his Kikuyus to vote for the son of Jaramogi and all Kikuyus forgetting their oath to never vote for a non Kikuyu for the presidency trooping to do so!

Uhuru promised:
Others


I nearly forgot...
  youth development centres in all the counties: How many have they set up Brother Pundit?

Health:
Promised to
establish full-fledged low-cost diagnostic centres and provide adequate screening and treatment facilities for persons with chronic or terminal conditions, including cancer, diabetes, and kidney failure, in every county. What is the name of the one in Bomet Brother Pundit? We have none in Kilifi. Do not mention the so called Managed Equipment Services scheme which is a cash cow for companies registered by Macharia and Uhuru's family as the drain funds from the County governments. . Uhuru cannot take credit for what is delivered by the county governments.

Laptops in 100 DaysIts now 1460 days and many schools have not seen the fake Chinese tablet. Just for the record: THERE WERE NO LAPTOPS!!!!


That Uhuru or UhuRuto have failed in governance is propaganda without any iota of truth. This gov has delivered in 4yrs what many gov never delivered in 20 or more years. The economy has grown at 6% per annum the last few years - making it among the world economy performers. I am talking of delivering Kenya biggest ever infrastructure project 2yrs ahead of schedule -the trans-formative SGR. I am talking about 200KMS new roads in nearly every county. I am talking about triple power (electricity) connections in 4 yrs. Security investment - Nairobi's & Mombasa CCTV & thousands of new shiny police cars - etc has turned the clock from Alshabaab hitting Nairobi every day 4yrs ago...to once yearly now. I am talking about devolving funds to all counties on time.There is reason Uhuru gov has been the most effective ever. Uhuru has kept his word. His coalition has been very very stable. He has had parliament that has been passing bills without any hindrance or shenanigans from opposition.

Opposition are mistaking the smooth very well oiled machinery that is Jubilee gov for weakness. Jubilee has meticulously planned for 2017 and as usual NASA are as disorganized as ever.

UhuRuto will win by more than 53%. Let us wait for final registered votes. All polls have consistently shown Uhuru enjoys rating above 50%. Uhuru 2013 coalition remain intact. That is given 50% plus one. And yet Uhuru has made headways in battle grounds - from COAST to KURIA - opposition leaders are joining Jubilee.

Uhuru definitely will win 50% plus all gains made in battleground counties....taking it to about 55%.

Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 10, 2017, 02:47:26 PM
I like reading Jeremiah 5:21 which says “Hear this, O foolish and senseless people, who have eyes, but see not, who have ears, but hear not.

Where is this that Jubilee is expecting to get 3-5 % more? Narok, Wajir perhaps or Kisii? May be Gideon Mung'aro will obliterate an Odinga majority of 80% plus and deliver Kilifi? Mvurya will deliver Kwale? Or Washiali will being in Western?

Get out of your cocoon and feel the air.
UhuRuto are not panicked coz they've this on the bag. It question of the margins here. The 50% 2013 coalition remain intact. They've meticulously warmed their way to those that didn't vote for them - and so expect them to reap 3-5% points more.
Pundit thinks Ruto is infallible. In 2013 you could feel the ground shifting against the "incumbent" Raila as Ruto hammered him hard. Raila was in panic and started meeting Kalenjin elders to beg Ruto to join him. Today we are seeing that desperation in Uhuru... asking folks to join any party of choice but support him for PORK... after spending billions to cajole them into Jubilee.

Without ICC, turnout and underdog advantage... Ruto has no magic wand and can easily be beaten. He has no fireworks unlike 2013. This ball is in NASA's court.


Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Nefertiti on April 10, 2017, 05:16:24 PM
Starving folks know nothing about SGR or GDP growth. You are saying the 50% coalition is intact... but there are dynamics you fail to consider :

-Incumbency burden - Raila is an expert in poking the underbelly. Kenyans can now blame Uhuru for everything. It's tough to rally people around a non-emotive issue like infrastructure

-Voter registration and turnout - Jubilee's outright advantage is gone. NASA ducked the maandamano hattrick in Dec/Jan. Once bitten twice shy

There is nothing to convince me Jubilee will get any more votes in swing regions than 2013... without ICC to drum its base. It's possible the 3-5% will shift to NASA.

That Uhuru or UhuRuto have failed in governance is propaganda without any iota of truth. This gov has delivered in 4yrs what many gov never delivered in 20 or more years. The economy has grown at 6% per annum the last few years - making it among the world economy performers. I am talking of delivering Kenya biggest ever infrastructure project 2yrs ahead of schedule -the trans-formative SGR. I am talking about 200KMS new roads in nearly every county. I am talking about triple power (electricity) connections in 4 yrs. Security investment - Nairobi's & Mombasa CCTV & thousands of new shiny police cars - etc has turned the clock from Alshabaab hitting Nairobi every day 4yrs ago...to once yearly now. I am talking about devolving funds to all counties on time.There is reason Uhuru gov has been the most effective ever. Uhuru has kept his word. His coalition has been very very stable. He has had parliament that has been passing bills without any hindrance or shenanigans from opposition.

Opposition are mistaking the smooth very well oiled machinery that is Jubilee gov for weakness. Jubilee has meticulously planned for 2017 and as usual NASA are as disorganized as ever.

UhuRuto will win by more than 53%. Let us wait for final registered votes. All polls have consistently shown Uhuru enjoys rating above 50%. Uhuru 2013 coalition remain intact. That is given 50% plus one. And yet Uhuru has made headways in battle grounds - from COAST to KURIA - opposition leaders are joining Jubilee.

Uhuru definitely will win 50% plus all gains made in battleground counties....taking it to about 55%.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: MOON Ki on April 10, 2017, 06:18:35 PM
Starving folks know nothing about SGR or GDP growth.

Nor do the countless, desperate unemployed.  Nor do the countless, struggling employed.   
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: RV Pundit on April 11, 2017, 11:45:01 AM
I lost count on how many times you've gotten it wrong. My last on this will be MOAS which will be out shortly. I just don't see how Uhuru can lose this.
Starving folks know nothing about SGR or GDP growth. You are saying the 50% coalition is intact... but there are dynamics you fail to consider :

-Incumbency burden - Raila is an expert in poking the underbelly. Kenyans can now blame Uhuru for everything. It's tough to rally people around a non-emotive issue like infrastructure

-Voter registration and turnout - Jubilee's outright advantage is gone. NASA ducked the maandamano hattrick in Dec/Jan. Once bitten twice shy

There is nothing to convince me Jubilee will get any more votes in swing regions than 2013... without ICC to drum its base. It's possible the 3-5% will shift to NASA.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 11, 2017, 02:38:47 PM
What Pundit is not addressing is, if Uhuru is so sure of victory: Why is he using all manner of dirty tactics such as:

Even if you ignore the jeering and stone throwing directed at him, their narrative of where they will get votes does not add up. Yesterday Pundit told us that Uhuruto have kept their constituency intact. Today you have Issac Ruto of an ever expanding and confident CCM telling Uhuru and Ruto to forget votes in South rift (https://citizentv.co.ke/news/forget-south-rift-votes-bomet-governor-isaac-ruto-tells-uhuruto-163288/)

I am not saying they will all vote for Raila. But the constituency is clearly not kept and maintained bro. You come from Bomet so I will understand if you dismiss Isaac. Note however that those of us from outside see the force he has come with and respect him. His mistake is to fear penetrating Nandi territory to dislodge William. He should also have run for the Presidency but I guess he is a pragmatist.
 
Quote
Bomet County Governor Isaac Ruto has warned President Uhuru Kenyatta and his Deputy William Ruto that they will not get any votes from the South Rift region owing to a poor development record.

Speaking at Gelegele trading Center in Sotik Sub County, Bomet County in a public baraza, the governor urged citizens not to vote in the Jubilee Government in the August General Election, saying it has failed to fulfill the promises it made to the electorate when it took power.


“You have refused to give us money to make roads and retained it in the national government, you have retained the money for health, maternity and water in the national government yet you say that the process of devolution has been completed. You have not employed primary school teachers; the citizens are employing them. We are tired, look for votes elsewhere,” he said.

The Bomet governor, who came to power under a URP ticket, has been a fierce critic of the regime, which led him to form the Chama Cha Mashinani (CCM) party earlier in his term.

He had, however, pledged his support for President Uhuru Kenyatta in the coming polls, saying his only problem was with his deputy William Ruto.

In a recent visit to his home turf of Bomet, DP Ruto had urged the residents to vote him out in the coming polls.

Speaking in Sotik while issuing cheques to dairy farmers over outstanding debts owed to them by KCC, DP Ruto said Governor Ruto has continued to undermine the Jubilee government even when tangible projects had already been implemented by the national government.


“As I travel around Kenya bringing people to Jubilee to re-elect President Uhuru Kenyatta and thereafter I become the President, someone comes and tells you to go to Chama Cha Mashinani. You should not follow such a person blindly,” DP Ruto told the Bomet residents.

Governor Ruto slammed him for his remarks, saying he should stop trying to dictate to the people of Bomet whom to elect.

“The deputy president is not my campaign manager and he should know that even in 2013 I campaigned for him and President Uhuru Kenyatta and it is not vice versa,” he said.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: RV Pundit on April 11, 2017, 04:49:42 PM
Isaac is the worst governor in Kenya. He has spent all bomet money in CCM and has zero development project & is going home.UhuRuto have done real tangible projects in Bomet...I can list for you all the new roads under construction...totally more than 200kms plus Bomet university under construction.

Next bomet governor is Dr Laboso Joyce Abonyo.

Isaac is going to join CCM/NASA alone. He is nothing compared to wakina Frankilin Bett, Sally Kosgey, Henry Kosgey, Prof Kamar, Magerer and all those ODM ministers who were CORDED but managed to attract 2% of total vote to NASA.And so UhuRuto have kept the Kalenjin coalition intact. It impossible to get 100% except in some Arab nation.

What Pundit is not addressing is, if Uhuru is so sure of victory: Why is he using all manner of dirty tactics such as:

  • Partisan re-introduction of manual voting, less than a month after an inter-parties pact outlawed ît
  • getting a discredited IT supplier through single sourcing and trying to pin it on Raila (like he did in 2013),
  • fighting the ruling by the courts to make the Constituency Returning Officers' results final and not subject to verification, modifications or alterations by the Chairman of IEBC???
Even if you ignore the jeering and stone throwing directed at him, their narrative of where they will get votes does not add up. Yesterday Pundit told us that Uhuruto have kept their constituency intact. Today you have Issac Ruto of an ever expanding and confident CCM telling Uhuru and Ruto to forget votes in South rift (https://citizentv.co.ke/news/forget-south-rift-votes-bomet-governor-isaac-ruto-tells-uhuruto-163288/)

I am not saying they will all vote for Raila. But the constituency is clearly not kept and maintained bro. You come from Bomet so I will understand if you dismiss Isaac. Note however that those of us from outside see the force he has come with and respect him. His mistake is to fear penetrating Nandi territory to dislodge William. He should also have run for the Presidency but I guess he is a pragmatist.
 
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 12, 2017, 03:28:03 PM
Do you still believe these polls? if so do you have any comment on this one?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9NHvntXoAE8Kkq.jpg)
Isaac is the worst governor in Kenya. He has spent all bomet money in CCM and has zero development project & is going home.UhuRuto have done real tangible projects in Bomet...I can list for you all the new roads under construction...totally more than 200kms plus Bomet university under construction.

Next bomet governor is Dr Laboso Joyce Abonyo.

Isaac is going to join CCM/NASA alone. He is nothing compared to wakina Frankilin Bett, Sally Kosgey, Henry Kosgey, Prof Kamar, Magerer and all those ODM ministers who were CORDED but managed to attract 2% of total vote to NASA.And so UhuRuto have kept the Kalenjin coalition intact. It impossible to get 100% except in some Arab nation.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Nefertiti on April 12, 2017, 04:56:43 PM
What about this one? Peter Munya has taken Jubilee head-on by promising to oppose Ruto for PORK in 2022 and beats Uhuru guy Kiraitu by big margins. Uhuru has even formed miraa committee to aid Kiraitu... but Pundit will deflect and claim Munya and Isaac support Uhuru... which may be so but their popularity in spite of their defiance shows you UhuRuto's weakness.

Quote
Uhuru's point man in Meru beaten in latest poll

Author: Samuel Karanja

-Meru Senator Kiraitu Murungi would lose in the area's gubernatorial race should elections be held today
- Kiraitu would be beaten by Munya with a wide margin, a recent poll shows
-The survey has also revealed that Jubilee is the most popular party in the area followed by ODM

Meru governor Peter Munya would easily be re-elected were elections to be held today, the latest poll by Infotrak shows. Munya would with with a 41.4% margin and beat Senator Kiraitu Murungi who would garner 29% of the total votes.

Kiraitu who has declared interest in the gubernatorial race and is the main Uhuru Kenyatta man in Meru is followed closely by former Assistant Minister Kiremi Mwiria who has polled at 6.3% while Boniface Kinoti would get 3.4% of the votes.

(https://i.onthe.io/0fgjhsob0sh6boai4.8e372abe.jpg)

https://www.tuko.co.ke/236787-uhurus-point-man-meru-beaten-latest-poll.html

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2017/04/isaac-ruto-laboso-neck-neck-bomet-gubernatorial-race-pollster/
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 12, 2017, 05:24:07 PM
Pundit is in hard place. If he says the polls are unreliable, then they are unreliable for Uhuru too.

He said Laboso will win because Uhuruto will win. Now if these polls are saying she will lose, why can't we let the reverse apply? In other words, Laboso will lose along with Uhuruto?

This is the year Pundit is going to retire from punditry.

Let me leave this Meru poll intact. I love it because it spells doom to many things Ruto has planned.
What about this one? Peter Munya has taken Jubilee head-on by promising to oppose Ruto for PORK in 2022 and beats Uhuru guy Kiraitu by big margins. Uhuru has even formed miraa committee to aid Kiraitu... but Pundit will deflect and claim Munya and Isaac support Uhuru... which may be so but their popularity in spite of their defiance shows you UhuRuto's weakness.

Quote
Uhuru's point man in Meru beaten in latest poll

Author: Samuel Karanja

-Meru Senator Kiraitu Murungi would lose in the area's gubernatorial race should elections be held today
- Kiraitu would be beaten by Munya with a wide margin, a recent poll shows
-The survey has also revealed that Jubilee is the most popular party in the area followed by ODM

Meru governor Peter Munya would easily be re-elected were elections to be held today, the latest poll by Infotrak shows. Munya would with with a 41.4% margin and beat Senator Kiraitu Murungi who would garner 29% of the total votes.

Kiraitu who has declared interest in the gubernatorial race and is the main Uhuru Kenyatta man in Meru is followed closely by former Assistant Minister Kiremi Mwiria who has polled at 6.3% while Boniface Kinoti would get 3.4% of the votes.

(https://i.onthe.io/0fgjhsob0sh6boai4.8e372abe.jpg)

https://www.tuko.co.ke/236787-uhurus-point-man-meru-beaten-latest-poll.html

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2017/04/isaac-ruto-laboso-neck-neck-bomet-gubernatorial-race-pollster/

Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: RV Pundit on April 13, 2017, 07:26:04 AM
Wait for nomination...jubilee votes will coalesce around the winners while ccm n pnu are peak
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 13, 2017, 10:42:55 AM
Is there no chance of CCM votes increasing as Jubilee's message gets spread out and thin the tumult of campaigning? You give no chance to Ruto despite all evidence showing Governors have earned their own following? Look at Munya or Kidero in Nairobi. How about Joho who your drunkard drug addict wants out at all costs but cannot leave it to the electorate because he has massive support.
 
On this one Pundit I will place a bet of 1000 shillings pekee . I do not want to bankrupt you with a USD 10K bet that Isaac wins it at the close of the polls.

Wait for nomination...jubilee votes will coalesce around the winners while ccm n pnu are peak
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: RV Pundit on April 13, 2017, 01:47:45 PM
You are incapable of reading politics. Look at the figures excluding undecided only 12% of Bomet resident are in CCM and 75% in Jubilee. Once nomination are done - people will resort to 6-piece voting - unless nomination were to be so messed up - which organized Jubilee won't do. Joyce is Bomet governor and so is Kiraitu.

There are two things that will happen after 21st April - all jubilee candidate will back the winner bar a few and secondly UhuRuto will steam-roll any opposition in pro-jubilee zones.

The same will happen in ODM zones - but cries of nomination injustices will rent the air for years.

As for betting - please let me send you my paypal so you can pay for all those previous bets you've lost before we begin betting again... before you disappear as you always do.

Isaac Ruto as far as politics goes - is DONE. Once he joins NASA - his 12% support will fizzle out to 2%.

Is there no chance of CCM votes increasing as Jubilee's message gets spread out and thin the tumult of campaigning? You give no chance to Ruto despite all evidence showing Governors have earned their own following? Look at Munya or Kidero in Nairobi. How about Joho who your drunkard drug addict wants out at all costs but cannot leave it to the electorate because he has massive support.
 
On this one Pundit I will place a bet of 1000 shillings pekee . I do not want to bankrupt you with a USD 10K bet that Isaac wins it at the close of the polls.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 13, 2017, 02:41:58 PM
Is this an automatic process where Jubilee strongholds simply vote 6 piece?

BTW Jubilee elections showed that it is not a straight forward smooth operation. The defections to KANU and CCM are a result of the problems in JP.

Here is what I think will happen: Bomet people will vote for Uhuru and Ruto in large numbers but less than 2013. However for Governor they will vote in Isaac and may even fo the same for all the other seats such as Senator, Women's rep, MPs etc.

We saw this happen in Migori to ODM so please spare me the condescension. Mike Sonko was in ODM we did not appreciate him he left for NARC Kenya and handed us a bloody nose.
You are incapable of reading politics. Look at the figures excluding undecided only 12% of Bomet resident are in CCM and 75% in Jubilee. Once nomination are done - people will resort to 6-piece voting - unless nomination were to be so messed up - which organized Jubilee won't do. Joyce is Bomet governor and so is Kiraitu.

There are two things that will happen after 21st April - all jubilee candidate will back the winner bar a few and secondly UhuRuto will steam-roll any opposition in pro-jubilee zones.

The same will happen in ODM zones - but cries of nomination injustices will rent the air for years.

As for betting - please let me send you my paypal so you can pay for all those previous bets you've lost before we begin betting again... before you disappear as you always do.

Isaac Ruto as far as politics goes - is DONE. Once he joins NASA - his 12% support will fizzle out to 2%.

Is there no chance of CCM votes increasing as Jubilee's message gets spread out and thin the tumult of campaigning? You give no chance to Ruto despite all evidence showing Governors have earned their own following? Look at Munya or Kidero in Nairobi. How about Joho who your drunkard drug addict wants out at all costs but cannot leave it to the electorate because he has massive support.
 
On this one Pundit I will place a bet of 1000 shillings pekee . I do not want to bankrupt you with a USD 10K bet that Isaac wins it at the close of the polls.
Title: Re: Uhuru Heckled - Game Almost Over
Post by: Omollo on April 13, 2017, 03:33:55 PM
Quote
As we head into that phase of our election cycle usually associated with explosive emotions and potential violence, I think I should remind readers of a basic fact of politics, easily overlooked at such times.

And this is that politics – like many social sciences – falls into the category of soft sciences (eg history, political science, etc).

We need to remember that soft sciences are quite a different thing from the hard sciences (eg, biology, chemistry, physics). And that in any soft science there is room for doubt and caution at all times.

For example, one of the laws of physics – the law of gravity – tells us that if you jump from the top of the Kenyatta International Convention Centre, you will hit the ground at such a high speed your body will be crushed to a pulp. And no matter how many people do this, the outcome will always be the same.

But then, one of the ‘facts’ of Kenyan politics, which media analysts like to point out, is that no Kenyan president has yet lost when seeking reelection. And that is true enough. The results of past elections support this view.

However, that does not mean that it is impossible to defeat a Kenyan president seeking reelection, if the election is free and fair. This ‘fact’ need not always apply.

One might even take it further and point out that it is equally true that no Kenyan president seeking reelection has ever won 50 per cent of the votes cast.

Whether we consider retired President Daniel Moi ( 35 per cent in 1992; 40 in 1997 ); or retired President Mwai Kibaki, ( 45 per cent in 2007 ) we find the same thing: They both got well below 50 per cent when seeking reelection.

This could then be used to argue that a Kenyan president can only be reelected if he faces a divided opposition; and that against a united opposition, he is sure to lose.

All this, then, illustrates the fundamental difference between the hard sciences in which the ‘facts’ never really change and the soft sciences in which what at one point seemed ‘a plain fact of life’ can easily turn out to be not so true after all.

Now I explain all this because one of the ‘facts’ of Kenyan politics, repeatedly declared from every rooftop, is that all we really want is ‘development’. Examined closely however, this turns out not to be true.


Like everyone else, I have been reading and watching President Uhuru Kenyatta’s vigorous defence of his tenure at State House, and taking note of his long list of ‘development projects’.

And, allowing for the occasional exaggeration about how many new roads have been built, we must admit that since Uhuru took over, we have seen far more of what we would generally define as ‘development’ – ie, state facilitation of education, health, transport, infrastructure, power, clean water, etc – than has ever been the case before.

And yet we do not see a President overwhelmed by the gratitude of ‘wananchi’ as he travels around the country. On the contrary, he is distinctly on the defensive.

There have even been several instances when the President has abruptly postponed his campaigns in one region or another, because there was the distinct possibility of an unfriendly reception.

So, what is really going on here?

Many Kenyans would, I suspect, attribute it all to tribalism. But I think there is more to it than that. Both the President and Deputy President William Ruto are having to campaign very hard even in their own political backyards, where tribalism would work for them, rather than against them.

I would say that there is an odd twist of psychology at work here:

When most of us speak of ‘development’ we do not really mean that we wish to see new and better roads and well-lit streets from a distance. What we really seek is economic opportunity – something which will place some extra income in our own hands.

And as of this point in time, few of the President’s new ‘development projects’ have actually done that.

In other words, Kenyans may well have seen this development, but they have not really felt it.

The Other Online Ethnic Rag (http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/04/13/why-uhuru-is-having-a-hard-time-getting-that-second-term_c1542573?platform=hootsuite)