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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on March 16, 2017, 08:41:59 PM

Title: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Omollo on March 16, 2017, 08:41:59 PM
This is how it is to be a child in Baringo. Those who fail to find room and return home may not be alive tomorrow.

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Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on March 16, 2017, 11:02:50 PM
Blame these warring primitive Kenyans . Army and gsu needs to be unleashed on these fools killing others
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Empedocles on March 17, 2017, 10:15:56 AM
Blame these warring primitive Kenyans . Army and gsu needs to be unleashed on these fools killing others
"These fools" killing others are not doing it for fun. There's a very well known reason why they're doing it.

Getting to the root cause makes more sense. Simply sending in the army and GSU is a very temporary measure, if at all.
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on March 17, 2017, 10:35:35 AM
Fuck those primitive jackass's they need to be slaughtered till they surrender. Uhuru should bomb and massacre any of them that shows up to the battle front. Thieves especially armed bandits deserve death
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Omollo on March 17, 2017, 12:14:17 PM
Like I thought, you think through your asshole.

Ill demonstrate in a moment (not that it will in any way improve the cow-dung you have in that skull you call a head). Before that, let me inform you that the values you have cannot be hidden or concealed. They come out when you least expect.

You are a GEMA tribal bigot trying to maintain multiple faces. Yet when it is a matter that involves your so called political allies The Kalenjin, you come out in your true colors. Kikuyus have joined Maasai's in invading farms in Laikipia. Do you also think the GSU should "kill them until the surrender"? I don't think so. All the anti-riot vehicles acquired from China are deployed in NASA areas and none in Jubilee "strongholds" ( with a qualified exception for Kalenjin Rift Valley).

Now to your nonsense:
Fuck those primitive jackass's they need to be slaughtered till they surrender.
Would you be willing to provide a comprehensive list of those to be slaughtered? Do you know them? Or do the GSU have some magical powers that somehow identify the real suspects? Come to think of it, cowdung let you down seriously: slaughtered till they surrender.: Exactly how do the dead surrender Genius Einstein?
 
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Uhuru should bomb and massacre any of them that shows up to the battle front. The stupidity of it apart, I have no idea why I imagined that these people (to be massacred by Uhuru Kenyatta) are what the son of Mama Ngina hopes to get votes from. Their "enemies" in Tiaty managed to give him votes nearly 3 times their registered population in 2013.( 51, 000 votes out of a possible 22,000.)
Yet for some reason, I am ashamed to admit that I agree with you almost entirely when you say:
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Thieves especially armed bandits deserve death . The reason I hesitate to agree 100% is my failure to immediately comprehend why you qualify who among thieves should face death! Are armed bandits worse than two men who steal 215 billion Kenya shillings? How about a man who assists his sister to con patients 200 million and supplies them air? Here is a list of some of the thefts which you exclude from your "tough" stance:
  • NYS Scandal - 791 million Shillings
  • Afya House Scandal popular known as Mafia House Scandal
  • Eurobond Scandal - 250 billion shillings
  • SGR Scandal - 1,1 Billion Shillings
  • Laptop Tendering Scandal - unknown
  • Lamu Coal Project - 475 billion Shillings
  • The GDC Tendering Scandal - 10 billion Shillings
  • The Karen Land Saga - 8 billion-shillings
  • The CCTV Single Sourcing (Safaricom) Scandal - 15 billion shillings
  • Hustler's Jet Scandal - 100 million shillings
  • Chicken Gate IEBC Scandal - 50 million Shillings
  • Jomo Kenyatta International Airport New Terminal Scandal - 55.6 billion shillings
  • GDC Tendering Scandal - 10 billion shillings
  • Medical Equipment Leasing Scandal - Ksh 38 Billion (annually)
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Omollo on March 17, 2017, 12:23:02 PM
The GSU are already on the ground along with units of the army. The police have been poured. Ruto went over to oversee the recruitment of Police reservists to be deployed in Pokot.

That is the problem. Tugens are being recruited to keep law and order in Pokot! One can hardly think of anything more incendiary! That said, the people we are dealing with a hardened warriors. The GSU fear them. A mixture of occultism and charms have caused the police to stay in the safety of their barracks until the warriors are safely out of range. The fear of witchcraft aside, these guys have invested in modern weaponry. Unlike the corrupt Nkaissery, the buy the best. Whether from South Sudan or DRC they have the reach.

I believe one PC (Ishmael Chelang'a) did try to defy the police advice to "let them go" and had his chopper brought down.

Root Cause:
1. Politicians raising cash to finance elections
2. Feeding the meat industry in Nairobi
3. Political gerrymandering and voter suppression
Blame these warring primitive Kenyans . Army and gsu needs to be unleashed on these fools killing others
"These fools" killing others are not doing it for fun. There's a very well known reason why they're doing it.

Getting to the root cause makes more sense. Simply sending in the army and GSU is a very temporary measure, if at all.
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Gumzo on March 17, 2017, 06:26:33 PM
Blame these warring primitive Kenyans . Army and gsu needs to be unleashed on these fools killing others
"These fools" killing others are not doing it for fun. There's a very well known reason why they're doing it.

Getting to the root cause makes more sense. Simply sending in the army and GSU is a very temporary measure, if at all.

When Army and GSU are sent there, they deliberately avoid the areas where the bandits are and proceed to violently rob and terrorize the same victims of said bandits

Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Omollo on March 17, 2017, 06:30:44 PM
Soldiers are professional plunderers.

Blame these warring primitive Kenyans . Army and gsu needs to be unleashed on these fools killing others
"These fools" killing others are not doing it for fun. There's a very well known reason why they're doing it.

Getting to the root cause makes more sense. Simply sending in the army and GSU is a very temporary measure, if at all.

When Army and GSU are sent there, they deliberately avoid the areas where the bandits are and proceed to violently rob and terrorize the same victims of said bandits


Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Georgesoros on March 17, 2017, 07:04:33 PM
The sad thing is that parliament is not even questioning why the army is being used. How did it get to this point? Same thing is happening in Laikipia.


Soldiers are professional plunderers.

Blame these warring primitive Kenyans . Army and gsu needs to be unleashed on these fools killing others
"These fools" killing others are not doing it for fun. There's a very well known reason why they're doing it.

Getting to the root cause makes more sense. Simply sending in the army and GSU is a very temporary measure, if at all.

When Army and GSU are sent there, they deliberately avoid the areas where the bandits are and proceed to violently rob and terrorize the same victims of said bandits


Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on March 17, 2017, 07:19:43 PM
The sad thing is that parliament is not even questioning why the army is being used. How did it get to this point? Same thing is happening in Laikipia.

Sometimes you have to do that, then deal with the legal questions later; I think you can with justification legalize the action in retrospect.  Even though I don't know what's going on there, but it looks like the guys involved are not your garden variety bow and arrows naked warriors or cattle rustlers.  They appear more organized and equipped.
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Empedocles on March 17, 2017, 07:36:28 PM
The sad thing is that parliament is not even questioning why the army is being used. How did it get to this point? Same thing is happening in Laikipia.

Sometimes you have to do that, then deal with the legal questions later; I think you can with justification legalize the action in retrospect.  Even though I don't know what's going on there, but it looks like the guys involved are not your garden variety bow and arrows naked warriors or cattle rustlers.  They appear more organized and equipped.

Wouldn't help. Just delay the problem into the future.

A cursory glance at history provides clues parliament could study: resource conflicts. We're not the first country/society in the world to have these resource conflicts and neither are we the last (until ASI takes over and makes us their pets).

But our parliamentarians are too busy fighting to keep their scarce seats to think coherently and with our population growing daily, well.
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Gumzo on March 17, 2017, 07:44:39 PM
The GSU are already on the ground along with units of the army. The police have been poured. Ruto went over to oversee the recruitment of Police reservists to be deployed in Pokot.

That is the problem. Tugens are being recruited to keep law and order in Pokot! One can hardly think of anything more incendiary! That said, the people we are dealing with a hardened warriors. The GSU fear them. A mixture of occultism and charms have caused the police to stay in the safety of their barracks until the warriors are safely out of range. The fear of witchcraft aside, these guys have invested in modern weaponry. Unlike the corrupt Nkaissery, the buy the best. Whether from South Sudan or DRC they have the reach.

I believe one PC (Ishmael Chelang'a) did try to defy the police advice to "let them go" and had his chopper brought down.

Root Cause:

1. Politicians raising cash to finance elections
2. Feeding the meat industry in Nairobi
3. Political gerrymandering and voter suppression

I think you are wrong about the ROOT CAUSES your 3 points above are periodic (election related) SECONDARY causes
The PRIMARY cause is plain simple LAND INJUSTICES accentuated by currently prevailing drought
Some people from somewhere else came and got title to the land that belongs to those now being called bandits
And GOK takes the side of the title holders since its current leader and his family are  among the biggest beneficiaries of LAND INJUSTICES

Respectfully;
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: MOON Ki on March 17, 2017, 07:47:56 PM
When Army and GSU are sent there, they deliberately avoid the areas where the bandits are and proceed to violently rob and terrorize the same victims of said bandits

GSU should be disbanded, and the Army should be made to focus on its sugar-and-charcoal business.    If we have learned anything from history, it is that the last place we want this lot is anywhere near Kenyan civilians.       
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Omollo on March 17, 2017, 07:52:14 PM
MoonKi

You are alone thinking like that. Here is what the representative of the people of Baringo says:
When Army and GSU are sent there, they deliberately avoid the areas where the bandits are and proceed to violently rob and terrorize the same victims of said bandits

GSU should be disbanded, and the Army should be made to focus on its sugar-and-charcoal business.    If we have learned anything from history, it is that the last place we want this lot is anywhere near Kenyan civilians.       
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: MOON Ki on March 17, 2017, 07:52:44 PM
Getting to the root cause makes more sense. Simply sending in the army and GSU is a very temporary measure, if at all.

Good luck with that.    Brings to mind a  question I asked a couple years ago, during an especially bad week: http://www.nipate.org/index.php?topic=1999.0
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Omollo on March 17, 2017, 08:00:42 PM
With drought, famine and insecurity, The Governor has his priorities quite right:
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Baringo County says it will set aside Ksh 150 million to rehabilitate Kabarnet Stadium with an aim of boosting sporting activities in the county.

According to County Executive in charge of Sports Youth and Gender, Enock Kiptaiwa, sporting activities have reported a low uptake and there is a need to promote the same by improving the sporting facilities.

Also Read: KDF deployed to flush out bandits in volatile Baringo

In the last financial year, Ksh 37 million was set aside to erect a perimeter wall around the stadium and the allocation for the coming financial year has been capped at Ksh 25 million which will go to football and volleyball pitches.

Kiptaiwa added that sporting facilities have been scarce and the youth have not been engaging in sports to tap into different talents.

https://citizentv.co.ke/news/baringo-to-spend-in-ksh-150m-to-rehabilitate-stadium-160954/
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: MOON Ki on March 17, 2017, 08:11:25 PM
MoonKi

You are alone thinking like that. Here is what the representative of the people of Baringo says:

Translation of Little Moi: Just like daddy before me, I have done bugger-all in this place.   Nor has anyone else, for that matter.   What's more, I am I not inclined to lift a finger even now.  Let the army deal with it, so that I can return to my affairs.   Asanteni Sana.     

And why now? The current mayhem is actually "not bad" by "normal standards".   (See my 2015 thread, for an example.)

Gideon has missed it, or wishes to not see it, or thinks he could get some clever mileage out of Uhuru's real concerns.   Far from being a "serious concern for the government", his people are just the beneficiary of side-effects from Uhuru's more "serious" deployments: http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Britain-Boris-Johnson-military-KDF-deploy-Laikipia/1056-3853870-147ytcc/index.html 
 
"Might as well show some interest in our own people while ... optics and all that."
Title: Re: Cry for Baringo People
Post by: Gumzo on March 17, 2017, 08:45:43 PM
I think you are wrong about the ROOT CAUSES your 3 points above are periodic (election related) SECONDARY causes
The PRIMARY cause is plain simple LAND INJUSTICES accentuated by currently prevailing drought
Some people from somewhere else came and got title to the land that belongs to those now being called bandits
And GOK takes the side of the title holders since its current leader and his family are  among the biggest beneficiaries of LAND INJUSTICES

Respectfully;

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British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has applauded deployment of the military to Laikipia to help police restore law and order.

Mr Johnson said he had met representatives of United Kingdom nationals, who have borne the brunt of invasions of their vast ranches by herders, and asked Kenyans to respect the sanctity of their title deeds to the land.


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He spoke at a press conference alongside Kenya’s Foreign Affairs Cabinet Secretary Amina Mohammed after a meeting at the ministry headquarters in Nairobi.