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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Globalcitizen12 on March 16, 2017, 03:05:22 AM
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So NASA is without 1 million votes
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When did that happen?
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Meet the real Einstein of choo.com as he imagines he is helping Uhuru win 2017.
So NASA is without 1 million votes
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Happened this week deal was signed just waiting for time to announce it..Kalonzo knows Uhuru will rig so he has chosen path of less resistance..With kamba votes jubilee will win easily
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Meet the real Einstein of choo.com as he imagines he is helping Uhuru win 2017.
So NASA is without 1 million votes
Still seeing ghosts..Take a menopause pill and chill
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I had no idea the NIS had this wide reach. NASA has been complaining of being targeted by the NIS in a new disinformation propaganda.
Anyway here is why the Einstein wa Choo.com story is going nowhere:
1. Kalonzo and Mudavadi have made deals with the same characters before. Both were shafted after being made VP or just dumped.
2. In Britain it is said you can buy an MP who has never been minister. Once he has been minister he knows his peer title is safe and he can land any job. Now the same is true for a fella who has already been VP. What more can Uhuru offer Kalonzo that he has never had before. Of course if he offers DP, it is Kalonzo who will lose face. He has the chance to be at least DP in a NASA government
3. The backlash against any principal who leaves NASA first will be worse than MaDvD's loss of parliamentary seat. If one is in Jubilee he misses the anger out there arising from daily corruption and impunity.
Any way, I don't usually expect such fellas like Einstein to provide any evidence for their cheap lies - not when they even make fun of the very idea of being asked for proof.
For the record, Kalonzo is in NASA and until Einstein tells us why a "secret" deal made in State House is known to him, I believe Kalonzo when he showed details of his movements to counter the NIS of him being in State House.
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I promise to take one of your mama's pills once you provide proof of this LIE you have just peddled.
Did you actually see kalonzo or the ghost of your unknown father?
Meet the real Einstein of choo.com as he imagines he is helping Uhuru win 2017.
So NASA is without 1 million votes
Still seeing ghosts..Take a menopause pill and chill
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Go back to milage.com that is where old women of your Calibre hawk their goods ..
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You were asked for evidence. Where is it? Matusi is not acceptable substantiation.
If not I suggest the entire thread be deleted.
Go back to milage.com that is where old women of your Calibre hawk their goods ..
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Now you want to debate. Kalonzo defected long-time ago. Take my word for it I work for intelligence services
Kambas like kalenjins are not committed to staying in opposition ..kambas want to be major players in the next government. They know raila has no clear path to majority win either in parliament or presidential elections ..So they are making deals to ensure Kalonzo can stay relevant and wait for 2022. Railas will just garner 37 percent of votes.
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You were asked for evidence. Where is it? Matusi is not acceptable substantiation.
If not I suggest the entire thread be deleted.
Go back to milage.com that is where old women of your Calibre hawk their goods ..
Who the hell do you think you are?
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I can equally say Ruto defected to CORD a long time ago and lay no evidence but ask you to trust my word. My word however may be more trust worthy than yours. You have a track record of peddling lies.
I do not care if you work for the CIA, NSA, FBI or KGB. In fact if you work for Uhuru's spy agency then you are not to be believed at all. I speak to Kalonzo any time I want. In any case post some verifiable info to substantiate your employment.
Now you want to debate. Kalonzo defected long-time ago. Take my word for it I work for intelligence services
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I am the person who will cut you to size.
Go back to milage.com that is where old women of your Calibre hawk their goods ..
Who the hell do you think you are?
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Einstein
You added some verandah talk after posting. I think you are a creep but will respond to what you write lest you go thinking you have scored some points beyond telling us your mother has reached menopause and you steal her pills.
Now you want to debate.
This is what this forum is about, in case you need reminding. Debating means you make and substantiate statements unchallenged. It is not a private cesspool to throw around matusi then be the first to complain when real ones are thrown back.
Kalonzo defected long-time ago.
I would kindly ask you to check, learn and know the meaning of the word defect. When Pundit asked you to state when, he was referring to the public announcement / notification where kalonzo effectively pledged allegiance to Jubilee.
Take my word for it
If indeed you work for the intelligence service as you claim below, have you ever heard of the word "evidence" while performing your daily duties and tasks involving spying on people through keyholes? Did you for any reason attend any courses involving training in investigative techniques or just some seminar on "evidence gathering, presentation, securing etc? Is a suspect's word enough? How many times has that stood in your Kangaroo courts? I think you work in a butchery like mtu wa mkono. Not even NIS can employ a thickhead like you.
I work for intelligence services
Indeed you do!
Kambas like kalenjins are not committed to staying in opposition ..
I thought Kalenjins are in government? Wait a minute... is that not the same line Kibaki used on Kalonzo in 2007? Did he make him President? Mutula Kilonzo provided all the MoUs written and the undertakings Kibaki swore to. They had a deal that Kalonzo takes over one year before elections, did they not? Was not Kalonzo locked out of State House? Why did a whole VP join opposition as a running mate? I take it those Kambas were not privy to that nor did they see the public humiliation?
kambas want to be major players in the next government.
and in your view it will be an Uhuru government. The elections are a simple inconvenience that will soon be dispensed with. Yes, you said Uhuru will steal the vote and form the next government.
They know raila has no clear path to majority win either in parliament or presidential elections ..
And could you share with anybody that "lack of a clear majority.."? or is it a State House / NIS secret?
So they are making deals to ensure Kalonzo can stay relevant and wait for 2022.
Were these deals made before or after defection. Were you part of the deal making? If so why did you decide to keep it secret? And if it was decided to keep it secret ( a decision you no doubt were part of, explain to me why you now REVEAL it? Railas will just garner 37 percent of votes.
And Uhuru will get 70%... we have heard that before and have been waiting for any intelligent well-backed analysis in vain. The last I saw had Kilifi, Kwale, Mombasa, Kisii and Nyamira as Jubilee zones. I can now understand why people thought it was the product of "Intelligence Services". May be you should ask them to work on getting some intelligence up their skulls.
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I think Kalonzo might actually fall for this. He maybe thinking he has shot in 2022 - competing against Ruto within Jubilee than the hopeless CORD where Raila will keep running and running and losing.As far as I can tell Muthama seem to have fallen out with Kalonzo and is the only hard-liner left. Most of Kambas mps left to join Jubilee or don't care less about cord.
So where will kalonzo end up. Joining Jubilee - perhaps and taking over Duale's Job - as Majority Leader? or running alone - and hoping they will be running off - and he'll cut a deal or staying in CORD as Raila deputy?
Best move - join Jubilee - take duale's job & few cabinet minister (3) - and have a dog fight with Ruto for the GEMA vote. Of course that will complicate Ruto succession - esp considering GEMA might have to choose btw Kalonzo and Ruto...so if I were Ruto I would be working against such a move. I would make Kalonzo ran alone.
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It is possible to imagine all manner of scenarios. It is hard when the person is not keeping quiet but clearly stating where he is. In 2007 he split the opposition, remained with ODM-K and went quiet. This is not the case now.
Muthama is pro-Raila. It has never been a secret. But he is also pro Raila-Kalonzo ticket arguing that it is the winning ticket that Jubilee would like to avoid - especially where Western and Coast remains firmly in NASA.
What I don't understand is why Kalonzo would go for Jubilee which is saying the 2022 ticket is for Ruto and leave NASA which is sure to give him that ticket.
We have been on the question of MPs a long time ago. Western MPs also defected. Most are now back. For example Ayubu Savula. The others have decided to continue cashing in and improve their nest egg.
Pundit explain to me why GEMA would choose Kalonzo in 2022 and did not in 2013
I think Kalonzo might actually fall for this. He maybe thinking he has shot in 2022 - competing against Ruto within Jubilee than the hopeless CORD where Raila will keep running and running and losing.As far as I can tell Muthama seem to have fallen out with Kalonzo and is the only hard-liner left. Most of Kambas mps left to join Jubilee or don't care less about cord.
So where will kalonzo end up. Joining Jubilee - perhaps and taking over Duale's Job - as Majority Leader? or running alone - and hoping they will be running off - and he'll cut a deal or staying in CORD as Raila deputy?
Best move - join Jubilee - take duale's job & few cabinet minister (3) - and have a dog fight with Ruto for the GEMA vote. Of course that will complicate Ruto succession - esp considering GEMA might have to choose btw Kalonzo and Ruto...so if I were Ruto I would be working against such a move. I would make Kalonzo ran alone.
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Pundit you got it
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I am still waiting for the evidence. Perhaps you can use some of your cheering time to post it.
Pundit you got it
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Einstein
Who is Robert Alai to you? Or are you him? I know that Alai defected to Jubilee and now earns his upkeep smearing NASA politicians in between posting one or two mwananchi problems which heb gets from the NIS.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7CGipsWoAEb7ka.jpg)
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So NASA is without 1 million votes
not true.
Kalonzo refutes claims of abandoning Nasa, blames 'Jubilee agents'
(http://www.the-star.co.ke/sites/default/files/styles/new_full_content/public/articles/2017/02/07/1502052.jpg?itok=SZx1Hsgb)
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/02/07/kalonzo-refutes-claims-of-abandoning-nasa-blames-jubilee-agents_c1501995
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Kalonzo presented papers for his candidacy today to iebc..He is gone. His court poets have been sending the message and testing the reaction of his base..Like pundit pointed most kamba MPS have decamped to jubilee and it was a matter of time Kalonzo made his choice to stick with raila and lose or go it alone and be in jubilee coalition
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Einstein
This confirms just what a Retard you are.
First of all go to IEBC and obtain a free copy of the 2017 Election Timetable. There you will hopefully read when Presidential candidates will be required to present their papers.
Now since you are obviously handicapped, I will be kind and explain to you what you thought you saw and help other people understand that they have been victims of a hoax by a retard and LIAR:
Kalonzo presented papers for his candidacy today to iebc..
: Kalonzo will be nominated to run for President of his Wiper Party. He presented his papers to Wiper in line with the requirements of his party.
I believe Wetangula did that in Kakamega (Ford K) and Mudavadi (ANC). Not sure about ODM. They are in NASA ( a coalition). One of these will be the flagbearer.
About "sending messages" (assume you mean balloons): It is called mobilization. He has to galvanize the Kamba. Wetangula, Raila and Mudavadi are doing the same. Feel free to read anything you want in that.
Kamba MPs, Luhya MPs, Luo MPs, etc have "defected". Like we said, many had made it clear they had debts and Jubilee would pay them and they would return. Others are improving on their retirement savings.
The bottom line is please produce the evidence of Kalonzo defection or withdraw the claim.
Anybody can speculate, it is free and encouraged. For example I believe Ruto will dump Uhuru a few weeks to elections so he can improve his chances of running in 2022 against Raila. I can add that it is a matter of time before he dumps Uhuru. I guess for you it will be true because you do not require proof.
I believe you will trust The Ethnic Rag : Kalonzo Submits Nomination papers to Wiper (http://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Kalonzo-nomination-papers-Wiper/1064-3852110-9guoi4z/):
(http://omollosview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/kalonzo-nomination.jpg)
Kalonzo presented papers for his candidacy today to iebc..He is gone. His court poets have been sending the message and testing the reaction of his base..Like pundit pointed most kamba MPS have decamped to jubilee and it was a matter of time Kalonzo made his choice to stick with raila and lose or go it alone and be in jubilee coalition
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Omollo, there is no point of going "nuts" about this. I think we know Kalonzo options are not that many.
1) He can become NASA flag bearer (his wish Number 1)...and still has to beat Jubilee
2) He can become NASA deputy or whichever other big post they can come up with..
3) He can ran alone
4) He can join Jubilee...sure bet Jubilee wins BIG..but he has to deal with Ruto for 2022.
And there is small matter of MOU with Raila --where raila was to try in 2013 and if he failed - to let Kalonzo ran now.
If I were Kalonzo I'd go for 1 or 4.
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There is nothing for kafupi in Jubilee. He jumps ship, that nut Muthama will fill his spot without missing a beat.
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Except for small matter - Muthama a std 7 drop out - would need a degree.
There is nothing for kafupi in Jubilee. He jumps ship, that nut Muthama will fill his spot without missing a beat.
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Except for small matter - Muthama a std 7 drop out - would need a degree.
There is nothing for kafupi in Jubilee. He jumps ship, that nut Muthama will fill his spot without missing a beat.
That can always be arranged. Even Sonko has one now.
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Muthama is not trusted by Kambas the same way Kalonzo is . Muthama is a loud mouth and arrogant billionaire
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Many people and me are not voting for jubilee+CORD dinosaurs.
Best to vote alternative candidates. Cord vs jubilee debate is running out of steam.
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Pundit
We've been on this for a while now. I can stand a wide degree of ignorance. I just can't suffer deliberate and heinous deceptions.
There is consensus on what should appear here. We have agreed to substantiate claims unchallenged. If one feels like skipping that, there is choo.com where anything goes - along with the intolerance that comes with it.
Omollo, there is no point of going "nuts" about this. I think we know Kalonzo options are not that many.
1) He can become NASA flag bearer (his wish Number 1)...and still has to beat Jubilee
2) He can become NASA deputy or whichever other big post they can come up with..
3) He can ran alone
4) He can join Jubilee...sure bet Jubilee wins BIG..but he has to deal with Ruto for 2022.
And there is small matter of MOU with Raila --where raila was to try in 2013 and if he failed - to let Kalonzo ran now.
If I were Kalonzo I'd go for 1 or 4.
That said, I have no reason to imagine Kalonzo will defect and commit political suicide. The Position of Deputy President is permanent and secure like no other after the Presidency. On the contrary all others including Parliamentary positions are open to political manipulation and changes. Duale, Kindiki and Nyenze have not exactly brought honour and prestige to the posts as to attract a former VP.
Above all, for Kalonzo to be Majority Leader he must be in Parliament! He must be a Member of the National Assembly! He could be nominated. It's just that it would be such a huge climb down.
Yours is just one of the "options" being offered Kalonzo.
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Muthama is not trusted by Kambas the same way Kalonzo is . Muthama is a loud mouth and arrogant billionaire
How do you know that? Did you pull it out of your mama's crapper?
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Muthama is not trusted by Kambas the same way Kalonzo is . Muthama is a loud mouth and arrogant billionaire
How do you know that? Did you pull it out of your mama's crapper?
I pulled it out of your filthy Cunt.. A initiation ceremony would help you mature. MoonKi Please call the local initiators to get this overgrown baby initiated to adulthood.
Homorrow everywhere you are throwing kinyesi just because Raila is losing.. Are you that invested in Raila you can have sanity. How many times have you and Raila lost..
1997 Raila was Mkia
2002 Raila became married to GEMA
2007 Raila lost and threw kinyesi all over Kenya
2013 Raila got whopped ran to court and got a can of ass whooping by our learned friends
2017 Raila will get another Dog beating
2022 Raila will be in Diapers begging us for one more time
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Einstein
I hope MoonKi answers your call to rescue you. Some "adult" you are. Fight your own battles and die alone.
I did not ask you for the information about Raila and how you look at him. That you offer it is fine.
What I need from you is proof of your claims. They seem to keep on widening as you go. More like your own fart as you walk.
Muthama is the ELECTED senator of Machakos. He was elected by Kambas not Martians. They TRUSTED him enough to give him their votes. That alone beats a million polls. What poll did you carry out to reach that position?
Stop peddling LIES.
everywhere you are throwing kinyesi just because Raila is losing
: I seem to recall not a few hours ago when you went after me for allegedly "insulting" Raila's wife? Was it not you?
Just for your information I am about to give you a knock out.
Muthama is not trusted by Kambas the same way Kalonzo is . Muthama is a loud mouth and arrogant billionaire
I pulled it out of your filthy Cunt.. A initiation ceremony would help you mature. MoonKi Please call the local initiators to get this overgrown baby initiated to adulthood.
I can tell you a lot about your mama. A lot. But I have to be sure you can take it. You sound weak.
Homorrow everywhere you are throwing kinyesi just because Raila is losing.. Are you that invested in Raila you can have sanity. How many times have you and Raila lost..
I have never been a Railaist. I support values and oppose the lack of them. Unlike you my position is based on strong principles and not personalities. You are panicking just like Uhuru because you thought you had cheated everybody and now you discover that nobody is cheated.
You are aware that any of the people you depend on starting with WSR can cut your throats any time. You watch Uhuru cutting deals with people you despise and cannot stand the unity of NASA. That is why you wake up to peddle LIES and start telling us about your fat mama's ass.
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Jubilee paid bloggers are running a hash tag #NASAWOES referring to imaginary differences and infighting in NASA. One of them decided to introduce it here
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Homo-orrow the human trash,
I picture Hom-o-rrow as this Beefy Dark Obese obtuse village woman in a Government office doing reports about hunger and condoms.. She has this oversize flowery dress, a nylon petticoat, and one of those Greenish nylon knickers they sell in open air markets..
Since it is after work this thing is now perched in one very filthy sofa, a thermos full of tea is in front of it, a Bakuli of omena and Mandazi for snacks, two bananas, a mango and a remote control. The thing is also furious looking for news alerts about Raila in Hamelika and South Africa.. The news feeds shows a star article of Kalonzo defection. The Chimp gets enraged and rushes to post at Nipate.org.
Once there is no interest of its post in Nipate.org it hurries to .com looking for its haters .. there it unleashes a silent Sulphur smelling fart, some gema urchin then jumps on it and the thing digs it’s butt for dried kinyeshi and throws it all over place.. The head Janitor of Nipate.com comes and furiously cleans up stinking dried feces and bans this social misfit for life.
And that is how Homo-ORROW picked a new Nemesis to fight.
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Einstein
You are not worth my attention. I cannot imagine why it took me so long to know I was dealing with a Makanga