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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on January 21, 2017, 04:55:02 PM
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Listen to the entire tape before you accuse me of using the word "Kikuyu"
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Very good strategy on Waititu part it will make the peasants pause and think what will happen without the government terror machine on their side. This is another reason why when Joho and others react angrily to Uhuru makes Kikuyus worried that without the president they would be kicked out of coast area
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I refuse to buy in to the thinking that people should treat Uhuru Kenyatta with kid gloves lest his people refuse to vote for a Non-Kikuyu. Show me one instance where there has been mass voting for a non Kikuyu candidate in the entire history of Kenya?
What Kikuyus need is the Buganda/ Baganda experience where after years of refusing to vote for anybody but a Muganda or DP ( The Baganda are realizing that their isolationist stance is helping to mobilize non Baganda in to a solid majority voting block. They can easily get rid of Museveni who they hate but then they are born to vote for a Muganda.
I can tell them for free that once the Non Kikuyu Coalition wins an election in Kenya (as they did in 2007 and were robbed) they would have to drop this policy (of only voting for a Kikuyu) before a Kikuyu comes to power. A Kikuyu right now will only ascend to that seat by electoral theft.
Very good strategy on Waititu part it will make the peasants pause and think what will happen without the government terror machine on their side. This is another reason why when Joho and others react angrily to Uhuru makes Kikuyus worried that without the president they would be kicked out of coast area
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You missed my message by mile. The message is meant to fight Apathy and persuade voters in Central to come out and defend their interests by voting uhuru back. Gema has beaten all coalitions hands down even in 2007 opposition was forced to share power with the Kibaki after he lost. In 2017 Raila will be forced to accept rigged elections or go into a coalition. There is no indication that CORD can win or stop Jubilee from doing as they want. So "radicalization" is part of a genius strategy to keep central united under uhuru
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Halfway through, he states that if Raila wins, Kikuyu men will be forced to wear shorts. In their
shoes place***, I too would be concerned about that possibility. :D
Remember this guy:
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*** Sorry, "shoes" here just raises other ideas that increase concerns.
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I think there is something else you are saying beyond these written words. Let me see:
How has GEMA beaten all coalitions when you write:
in 2007 opposition was forced to share power with the Kibaki after he lost.
So Kibaki lost but GEMA still beat another Coalition?
About defending "interests": I am not sure re-voting for Uhuru would be in the best interests of anybody in Kenya least of all the ordinary Kikuyus. We all know from our own villages a big thief starts in the village by stealing chicken and potatoes. He then goes "abroad" to broaden the reach of his "talent".
If I remember well what happened in 2007, the arguing went on for a while at KICC before violence broke out all over the country. So I find hard to understand your assertion that GEMA beat the coalitions you have in mind "hands down" . The ICC thought there were lots of uplifted hands.
You missed my message by mile. The message is meant to fight Apathy and persuade voters in Central to come out and defend their interests by voting uhuru back. Gema has beaten all coalitions hands down even in 2007 opposition was forced to share power with the Kibaki after he lost. In 2017 Raila will be forced to accept rigged elections or go into a coalition. There is no indication that CORD can win or stop Jubilee from doing as they want. So "radicalization" is part of a genius strategy to keep central united under uhuru
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Politically odm lost power they had won. Ruto emerged as a GEMA ally after pev. Odm went into 2013 after losing rv to gema. Now cord is going to 2017 without guarantee of fair and free elections and it seems number of registered voters still favor jubilee coalition.
Cord has no alternative program that can persuade kikuyu voters to abandon jubilee coalition ..what hasn't offered anything better for kenyans.
For now in a raw power contest jubilee or gema coalition will smash cord
CORD supporters spend all their waking time hating and insulting kikuyus and this what cord had done for 5 years and still you cannot even convince any mp or senator to cross the floor and support your cause
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If CORD produces a similar ad saying not registering is a vote for Uhuru, tel me Duale, Kaparo and Uhuru will keep as quiet and Raila
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Breathtaking. Did all this happen within a few days? Sounds like hours.
Politically odm lost power they had won. Ruto emerged as a GEMA ally after pev. Odm went into 2013 after losing rv to gema. Now cord is going to 2017 without guarantee of fair and free elections and it seems number of registered voters still favor jubilee coalition.
- How many registered voters are there (include sources)
- How does a "guarantee of fair and free elections" look like?
- Depending on your response above state what advantage registered voters grant Jubilee
Cord has no alternative program that can persuade kikuyu voters to abandon jubilee coalition ..what hasn't offered anything better for kenyans.
How feasible is the idea of the Opposition persuading Kikuyus to vote enmass for the Opposition?
How critical is Kikuyu support for the Opposition
Let me restate that I do not think The Opposition should waste time on convincing Kikuyus to vote for opposition. It is the same as Hillary spending valuable time campaigning in Texas or Trump campaigning in California.
If the Opposition ever pursued such a policy it would greatly benefit Jubilee.
For now in a raw power contest jubilee or gema coalition will smash cord
CORD supporters spend all their waking time hating and insulting kikuyus and this what cord had done for 5 years and still you cannot even convince any mp or senator to cross the floor and support your cause
MPs (Senators and Members of the National Assembly) are not known to defect from sitting governments to opposition unless its in an election year. It just does not happen and it is cheap propaganda to accuse the Opposition of failing to attract defections from government.
Let me ask you to state what you think CORD should have done in the last 5 years. While at it you may wish to say a word on whether you understand the principle of separation of power and The Role of Opposition in a Democracy.
However when we take power, we estimate we will be inundated by Kikuyu MPs in a hurry to betray Uhuru.[/list]
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Omollo,
From this thread, it's not clear what you mean by radicalization. Does painting Raila in unflattering light constitute radicalization? Are people allowed to say negative things about Raila?
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I had only seen the Waititu video when I posted the previous post. This one is more along the lines of hate speech. The problem, in 2017, anyone with a device can produce this type of imagery. It's just that much harder to vouch for the validity of some of these sources.
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These are web based ads which pop up when Kenyan user go to certain websites. As indicated they are paid for by Jubilee. Kaparo is silent until we hit back.
I had only seen the Waititu video when I posted the previous post. This one is more along the lines of hate speech. The problem, in 2017, anyone with a device can produce this type of imagery. It's just that much harder to vouch for the validity of some of these sources.
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I had only seen the Waititu video when I posted the previous post. This one is more along the lines of hate speech. The problem, in 2017, anyone with a device can produce this type of imagery. It's just that much harder to vouch for the validity of some of these sources.
I don't know if it's "hate speech"---it's a very thin line---but perhaps that doesn't matter. Kenyans being Kenyans, there are two sure-fire ways to rally them into the voting booths:
(1) We must get our man in so that we too can eat.
(2) If we don't get our man in, they will finish us.
This works, and has worked for 50+ years, all the way from tribe, to clan, ..., to village, .... On the basis of available evidence, does anyone---Opposition, or Government, or Sheeple---have a serious interest in changing any of that?