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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on September 22, 2016, 03:16:18 PM

Title: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: RV Pundit on September 22, 2016, 03:16:18 PM
I am disappointment but let see if the guy has to what it takes.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 22, 2016, 03:53:22 PM
A devout SDA.  Disaster.

I looked at his interview.  He seems pretty shallow compared to the other guys.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: Empedocles on September 22, 2016, 04:47:09 PM
A devout SDA.  Disaster.

I looked at his interview.  He seems pretty shallow compared to the other guys.

Maybe that's why he was chosen.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: RV Pundit on September 22, 2016, 05:29:51 PM
Technology is what will save judiciary. Maraga has to focus on the little man. Make sure justice is dispense fairly and quickly for the guy imprisoned in the villages or  help in resolving land disputes. And leave the Nairobi political drama cases. He need to move the base. Not the top. And we may be somewhere to having a modern and working judiciary for everyone.

Unfortunately all he talks about is  replacing the suggestion box with an email.

He need to go the whole shebang...use tech...mobile phones...to ensure we have a judiciary that truly work.

This is an opportunity we have in this knowledge era.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: Georgesoros on September 22, 2016, 05:43:11 PM
I agree with your analysis. The little man has never gotten any justice since independence.

Technology is what will save judiciary. Maraga has to focus on the little man. Make sure justice is dispense fairly and quickly for the guy imprisoned in the villages or  help in resolving land disputes. And leave the Nairobi political drama cases. He need to move the base. Not the top. And we may be somewhere to having a modern and working judiciary for everyone.

Unfortunately all he talks about is  replacing the suggestion box with an email.

He need to go the whole shebang...use tech...mobile phones...to ensure we have a judiciary that truly work.

This is an opportunity we have in this knowledge era.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: MOON Ki on September 22, 2016, 07:55:15 PM
Yes, an email address seems somewhat modest for a technological revolution, given what can be done today.   Even with that, he doesn't seem to appreciate  that the problem is getting action on suggestions and complaints, not handing them in.     At the very least he could have outlined how the contents of his proposed inbox would be handled.

Looks like a harmless plodder.   Doesn't inspire much hope for change in anything, which could be what made him the "best" candidate.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: gout on September 22, 2016, 09:50:06 PM
The JSC went for order in the courts given the chaos left by Mutunga, Rawal and Tonui.

He is the guy to bring better relationship with parliament and executive.

Apart from the low hanging fruit of technology, we need a CJ who will help proper reforming the police and prison system which are key in functional justice system - the brutality, the conditions. If consultations with executive and parliament don't yield  results, judiciary can play hard ball - say no hearing of cases from Police Station X in case of clearly spelt out violations say public outcry over harassment, extra judicial killings, involvement in criminal activities.

I had thought the lawyers would come up with a concrete road map after Willie Kimani murders but seems everybody has no hope of reforming the force even the Kurias experience at Pangani.

With what is going on in US where cops got cameras recording everything, seems police work is becoming quite stressing and some shifts are required.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: RV Pundit on September 23, 2016, 08:24:30 AM
He seem to be enjoying bi-partisan support, seem to be honest judge and hopefully will steer judiciary forward in the next 4yrs.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 24, 2016, 11:35:56 PM
The JSC went for order in the courts given the chaos left by Mutunga, Rawal and Tonui.

He is the guy to bring better relationship with parliament and executive.

Apart from the low hanging fruit of technology, we need a CJ who will help proper reforming the police and prison system which are key in functional justice system - the brutality, the conditions. If consultations with executive and parliament don't yield  results, judiciary can play hard ball - say no hearing of cases from Police Station X in case of clearly spelt out violations say public outcry over harassment, extra judicial killings, involvement in criminal activities.

I had thought the lawyers would come up with a concrete road map after Willie Kimani murders but seems everybody has no hope of reforming the force even the Kurias experience at Pangani.

With what is going on in US where cops got cameras recording everything, seems police work is becoming quite stressing and some shifts are required.

If the job is to NOT rock the boat, he is the right man.  Email is just the icing.  What more can one ask for?
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: Nefertiti on September 25, 2016, 02:30:20 PM
JSC has done progressive Kenya a major disservice. Expect a dither in reforms. With all the leeway they have, they even got high court protection against executive interference so they only have to submit a single name for approval. A big disappointment.

As expected the conservative branch is in unanimous agreement on his suitability.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: patel on September 26, 2016, 06:55:35 AM
What major case or rulings has this guy ever made. Sound like a pro status quo guy to me. One step forward 2 steps back.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: patel on September 26, 2016, 07:02:33 AM
6. Kiambaa Church

Justice Maraga sparked controversy on April 30, 2009, when he acquitted all the four suspects who had been accused of torching the Kiambaa Church on January 1, 2008, during the post-election violence.

Presiding over the trial of the suspects at the Nakuru High Court, Maraga set the accused free and expressed his “outrage” at the behaviour of the police whom he accused of carrying out shoddy investigations.

During the Kiambaa church incident, 17 people were burned alive, while another 11 died on their way to hospital.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: Kadudu on September 26, 2016, 09:33:35 AM
He is status quo. Do not expect much reforms from this guy, but am sure the Judiciary and the ruling elite are very comfortable with status quo.

What major case or rulings has this guy ever made. Sound like a pro status quo guy to me. One step forward 2 steps back.
Title: Re: David Maraga is the new CJ.
Post by: RV Pundit on September 26, 2016, 10:21:29 AM
I don't see much reform but he seem a steadier hand than Mutunga who left Supreme court in shambles. Seem Maraga get together the Court of Appeal as it's president earned him points from JSC. And he has bi-partisan support...so that will help with 2017 Presidential Petition.