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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Simanova on July 17, 2016, 07:38:07 PM
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Before that... Sunday service at Luru Catholic Church mass at Sigomere
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Then meeting the people:
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Sidindi
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Is it true Opiyo Wandayi was suspended from the House for a year for disrupting Uhuru's speech? And the speaker rejected a court order for his readmission. 1 year is so harsh and arbitrary. Jubilee impunity kweli.
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The matter is coming to head as Muturi has disobeyed the court order.
Is it true Opiyo Wandayi was suspended from the House for a year for disrupting Uhuru's speech? And the speaker rejected a court order for his readmission. 1 year is so harsh and arbitrary. Jubilee impunity kweli.
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Parliament is run by the Standing Orders not court orders. This is an established tradition: even Kaparo and Marende upheld that on the floor. Obviously out there Uhuru and courts rule. And laws can be vetoed by both.
My issue is with disproportionate penalty. I think Cord should disrupt business for a week if necessary until Muturi caves.
The matter is coming to head as Muturi has disobeyed the court order.
Is it true Opiyo Wandayi was suspended from the House for a year for disrupting Uhuru's speech? And the speaker rejected a court order for his readmission. 1 year is so harsh and arbitrary. Jubilee impunity kweli.
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Standing orders guide MPs and the speaker on what to do. The courts are not directing parliament on that. There is a dispute involving a citizen who happens to be an MP and an institution which happens to be parliament. The courts wish to adjudicate based on the laws established by, well, Parliament.
That is how it works. Parliament must obey court orders not least because this is a conflict between a citizen and an institution.
Parliament is run by the Standing Orders not court orders. This is an established tradition: even Kaparo and Marende upheld that on the floor. Obviously out there Uhuru and courts rule. And laws can be vetoed by both.
My issue is with disproportionate penalty. I think Cord should disrupt business for a week if necessary until Muturi caves.
The matter is coming to head as Muturi has disobeyed the court order.
Is it true Opiyo Wandayi was suspended from the House for a year for disrupting Uhuru's speech? And the speaker rejected a court order for his readmission. 1 year is so harsh and arbitrary. Jubilee impunity kweli.
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This is problematic. I agree with Robina. The court has no jurisdiction here. CORD mps should force the speaker to reduce the "punishment". Seperation of power is bigger than the aggrieved MP "citizen" problems.
Standing orders guide MPs and the speaker on what to do. The courts are not directing parliament on that. There is a dispute involving a citizen who happens to be an MP and an institution which happens to be parliament. The courts wish to adjudicate based on the laws established by, well, Parliament.
That is how it works. Parliament must obey court orders not least because this is a conflict between a citizen and an institution.
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I derive my position from what you have acknowledged: Separation of Powers and not Parliamentary sovereignty.
This is problematic. I agree with Robina. The court has no jurisdiction here. CORD mps should force the speaker to reduce the "punishment". Seperation of power is bigger than the aggrieved MP "citizen" problems.
Standing orders guide MPs and the speaker on what to do. The courts are not directing parliament on that. There is a dispute involving a citizen who happens to be an MP and an institution which happens to be parliament. The courts wish to adjudicate based on the laws established by, well, Parliament.
That is how it works. Parliament must obey court orders not least because this is a conflict between a citizen and an institution.
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To my mind, a better way to argue that the court is wrong would be to take the actual ruling and point where (and how) the judge erred. Odunga's reasoning, which seems clear enough, will be found here:
http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/123564/