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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Georgesoros on July 16, 2016, 02:30:08 AM
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What a mess. That guy erdogan messed us the country.
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Yeah if you add kurdish rebels whom CIA have now armed to the teeth; turkey is toast.Brexit may have been right after all.
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The guy wants to make turkey anothe Pakistan. Religious extremism is his motto. I thought Turks were intelligent but I take back my thoughts.
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Turkey is 99% Sunni so no. Saudis are 85% Sunni, Iran is 90% Shiite hence their stability. Iraq and Syria are divided hence the strife. It is religious sectarianism that causes the civil wars, just like S. Sudan or Rwandese tribes. Kenya's parochial tribalism is thwarted by the count: too many so no sustained grievances can work.
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Kurds are 15-30% of turkey. That is only serious cause of instability. But I agree with the general premise.
Turkey is 99% Sunni so no. Saudis are 85% Sunni, Iran is 90% Shiite hence their stability. Iraq and Syria are divided hence the strife. It is religious sectarianism that causes the civil wars, just like S. Sudan or Rwandese tribes. Kenya's parochial tribalism is thwarted by the count: too many so no sustained grievances can work.
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True: Kurds are a strange ethnic outlier. Pakistan for example despite endless military coups and Taliban is a Sunni monolith hence the peace. I never understand how Muslims just go so intolerant over a miscalculation in the hadiths. Only place I have seen this in western culture is Ireland where IRA catholics and Protestants butcher each other; and of course African tribal mayhem in Rwanda, etc.
Kurds are 15-30% of turkey. That is only serious cause of instability. But I agree with the general premise.
Turkey is 99% Sunni so no. Saudis are 85% Sunni, Iran is 90% Shiite hence their stability. Iraq and Syria are divided hence the strife. It is religious sectarianism that causes the civil wars, just like S. Sudan or Rwandese tribes. Kenya's parochial tribalism is thwarted by the count: too many so no sustained grievances can work.
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Does this country belong to the European Union?
This leader has no brakes. Seems like He is having political diarhea.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36838347
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Does this country belong to the European Union?
This leader has no brakes. Seems like He is having political diarhea.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36838347
Perhaps a slight misunderstanding. Someone wrote "EU", but another read "AU".
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan promised "a new Turkey" after Friday’s failed coup. Its shape had already been emerging but the amateurish takeover attempt, which Erdogan called "a gift from God," gives him additional tools to realize it.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-17/coup-was-a-gift-from-god-says-erdogan-who-plans-a-new-turkey
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Muslim countries like Turkey have systems incompatible with EU liberal model. Imagine in Germany, Poland, Hungary, Austria you have rightwing parties openly hostile to islam in their policies. Check Germany's AfD and Dutch nationalist folks like Wilders. At EU level Turkey has to work on death penalty, human rights, press freedom, women rights, gay rights, Kurdish/minority rights... hopeless.
Does this country belong to the European Union?
This leader has no brakes. Seems like He is having political diarhea.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36838347
Perhaps a slight misunderstanding. Someone wrote "EU", but another read "AU".
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan promised "a new Turkey" after Friday’s failed coup. Its shape had already been emerging but the amateurish takeover attempt, which Erdogan called "a gift from God," gives him additional tools to realize it.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-17/coup-was-a-gift-from-god-says-erdogan-who-plans-a-new-turkey
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President Recep Tayyip Erdogan promised "a new Turkey" after Friday’s failed coup. Its shape had already been emerging but the amateurish takeover attempt, which Erdogan called "a gift from God," gives him additional tools to realize it.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-17/coup-was-a-gift-from-god-says-erdogan-who-plans-a-new-turkey
This is Erdogan's new Turkey:
Demand for 1577 University Deans resignation
30 governors fired
9000 in Interior Ministry fired
Over 2000 judges dismissed
3,000,000 civil servants banned from going on holiday
Talks of re-enabling the death penalty
1500 Finance Ministry officials suspended
103 generals/admirals detained for questioning
?? soldiers fired/imprisoned
140 members of the Supreme Court and 48 members of the Council of State (the highest court) got arrest warrants 4 days ago, no info on releases etc.
15200 Ministry of Education personnel fired
Several news/media outlets broadcast licenses withdrawn
Turkey's spy agency suspends 100 people
492 state religious personnel removed
21000 private teachers licenses revoked
393 personnel in Ministry of Family and Social Policy dismissed
257 personnel at PM's office dismissed & ID's seized
Copied from https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/4tlbil/turkeys_education_board_demands_1577_university/d5i5rpc (sources are available at the link)
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Trump admires Turkey's despot.
He plans to do the same to fed employees.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/trump-purge-obama-administration