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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 18, 2016, 02:48:23 PM
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Kamwana says he is missing something unspecified. That he has asked Mutungaroo for whatever it is. Mutungaroo says they have given kamwana everything and kamwana is lying about requesting anything from them.
Tunoi of si umeona sasa ni mimi fame may just get the last laugh.
NAIROBI, Kenya, Feb 17 – The Judicial Service Commission says it has provided President Uhuru Kenyatta with everything he needs to constitute a tribunal to investigate the corruption allegations made against Supreme Court Justice Philip Tunoi.
The Judiciary’s Director of Public Affairs and Communication Naim Bilal on Wednesday said that contrary to State House Spokesperson Manoah Esipisu’s assertion that President Kenyatta asked for more information on their recommendation for a tribunal, the JSC had not received communication to that effect.
“JSC reiterates that it fully satisfied the provisions of Article 168 (4) of the Constitution on the content and procedure of such a petition to the President. Importantly, this is not the first petition of this nature that the JSC has processed,” he stated.
Esipisu on Monday told Capital News that while the Office of the President had indeed received the JSC’s recommendation for a tribunal to investigate Tunoi, there were some documents that were missing.
He did not however, disclose what it was that was missing exacly.
Bilal on Wednesday said the JSC had submitted all the documents required of it. The documents they submitted being a transmittal letter, petition and a report of their findings on the allegations that Tunoi took a Sh200 million bribe from Nairobi Governor Evans Kidero.
Speaking to Capital News on Tuesday, Attorney General Githu Muigai — a member of the JSC — said any questions regarding any documents the JSC may or may not have submitted to the President in support of their recommendation on Tunoi, should be directed at his office.
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2016/02/weve-given-uhuru-everything-he-needs-on-tunoi-jsc/
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it is in the interest of Uhuru to protect Tunoi. It is in the interest of JAP to have a weakened supreme court going into 2017 election. In case of rigging JAP will have leverage.
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That is AG mandate. Githu belong to execute and JSC to do that exactly. I think it just some minor confusion. A storm in the tea cup.
The real battle for now is how to mend the reputation of supreme court. The whole lot need to get somehow fired and new lot brought forward.
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That is AG mandate. Githu belong to execute and JSC to do that exactly. I think it just some minor confusion. A storm in the tea cup.
The real battle for now is how to mend the reputation of supreme court. The whole lot need to get somehow fired and new lot brought forward.
Now I think you are being outright dishonest
ati just some minor confusion......A storm in the tea cup
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Yeap. This is something that AG should sort. He was part of JSC committee and he is the principal legal advisor to president. Uhuru wants the investigation file forwarded together with other documents. I don't see any problem here.
Now I think you are being outright dishonest
ati just some minor confusion......A storm in the tea cup
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Yeap. This is something that AG should sort. He was part of JSC committee and he is the principal legal advisor to president. Uhuru wants the investigation file forwarded together with other documents. I don't see any problem here.
Pundit,
Ati AG should sort !!!!!
Kwani what happened to you since you left nipate ?
You seem to be reasoning at the level of a mama mboga at some rural market
How can you not know that Githu Muigai's roll in all this is to scuttle the
tribunal process on behalf of ruling bunch of criminals ?
The SC is compromised and the ruling criminals want it to stay that way
The Tunoi tribunal has the potential to force the whole SC to be re constituted
with clean judges which would be a major potentially game changing disaster for the criminals in power.
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They don't seem to have an idea what they are missing. I think it is the beginning of saving Tunoi's skin. The next step may be the creation of a useless tribunal. In the end, kamwana has a judge beholden to him on the SC.
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Give it time. It not even a week. Seems like some minor confusion. President in any case has 14 days to act. I am not the guy to easily buy into conspiracy theories and controversies. And I haven't changed.
Pundit,
Ati AG should sort !!!!!
Kwani what happened to you since you left nipate ?
You seem to be reasoning at the level of a mama mboga at some rural market
How can you not know that Githu Muigai's roll in all this is to scuttle the
tribunal process on behalf of ruling bunch of criminals ?
The SC is compromised and the ruling criminals want it to stay that way
The Tunoi tribunal has the potential to force the whole SC to be re constituted
with clean judges which would be a major potentially game changing disaster for the criminals in power.
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Nothing new here. Jubilee has taken over and turned it into a show. If Uhuru was serious he could have expedited this.
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Look like AG Githu is indeed upto some monkey business.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Uhuru-Kenyatta-declines-to-form-tribunal-to-probe-Tunoi/-/1056/3087810/-/p7tt8xz/-/index.html
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Look like AG Githu is indeed upto some monkey business.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Uhuru-Kenyatta-declines-to-form-tribunal-to-probe-Tunoi/-/1056/3087810/-/p7tt8xz/-/index.html (http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Uhuru-Kenyatta-declines-to-form-tribunal-to-probe-Tunoi/-/1056/3087810/-/p7tt8xz/-/index.html)
They have no shame. There is even no wiggle room for this in the constitution. Any concerns they raise, the Tribunal should be competent to deal with them.
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Does that mean if Justice Tunoi agrees to retire we will never know about the saga pf Sh200 million from Kidero?
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At least this second go is better (i.e. less insulting to basic intelligence) than the first one of "files are missing".
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I think this is an illegal and suspicious move. The president has 14 days to form a tribunal without iffs and butts. He has no discretion to say No. If AG Gitu could not convince JSC to wait over for other rulling this is complete nonsense.
The constitution expect a petition to JSC then a tribunal is formed by PORK. I am sure there is no room for president to engage JSC in ping-pong.
Form the tribunal and if mid-way Tunoi is ruled over-aged or dies; then tribunal dies.
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I think this is an illegal and suspicious move. The president has 14 days to form a tribunal without iffs and butts. He has no discretion to say No. If AG Gitu could not convince JSC to wait over for other rulling this is complete nonsense.
The constitution expect a petition to JSC then a tribunal is formed by PORK. I am sure there is no room for president to engage JSC in ping-pong.
Form the tribunal and if mid-way Tunoi is ruled over-aged or dies; then tribunal dies.
In any case, if the offence was carried out, should it matter that the man is now retired? Wouldn't that actually affect his eligibility for retirement benefits and the likes?
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The tribunal is not a criminal process. It just for sake of removing him as a judge. The standard being very low...remember Lady Justice Baraza...being kicked out for misbehavior. Tribunal will kick out Tunoi if they can proof he had contacts with any of the litigants while the case was going on...they don't need to worry about 200M dollars.
Now for criminal part...DPP Tobiko and Police should already have launched their parrellel investigation...with a view of bringing criminal proceedings on Tunoi and Kidero. The same thing happened to Baraza who was investigated by police for assault. Police nonsensically later chose to let her go scotfree after she was fired...which was injustice to Moraa as a person.
If we had our institution working, all these are seperate processes, with even civil proceedings kicking in from interested parties.
In any case, if the offence was carried out, should it matter that the man is now retired? Wouldn't that actually affect his eligibility for retirement benefits and the likes?
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The tribunal is not criminal process. It just for sake of removing him as a judge. The standard being very high...remember Lady Justice Baraza...being kicked out for misbehavior. Tribunal will kick out Tunoi if they can proof he had contacts with any of the litigants while the case was going on...they don't need to worry about 200M dollars.
Now for criminal part...DPP Tobiko and Police should already have launched their parrellel investigation...with a view of bringing criminal proceedings on Tunoi and Kidero. The same thing happened to Baraza who was investigated by police for assault. Police nonsensically later chose to let her go scotfree after she was fired...which was injustice to Moraa as a person.
If we had our institution working, all these are seperate processes, with even civil proceedings kicking in from interested parties.
In any case, if the offence was carried out, should it matter that the man is now retired? Wouldn't that actually affect his eligibility for retirement benefits and the likes?
That makes sense. So if he is already out, then the tribunal should be competent to establish this without input from kamwana.
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Kamwana is engaging in speculation. Without a tribunal, then Tunoi is free to return to his job. Tunoi and Rawal are still serving as judges as their over-age case goes on. Kamwana action is nothing but illegal move meant to shield the corrupt forces from being exposed.
Kamwana probably think supreme court can be saved...I think it beyond salvage..it need to be reconstituted afresh.
That makes sense. So if he is already out, then the tribunal should be competent to establish this without input from kamwana.
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Kamwana is engaging in speculation. Without a tribunal, then Tunoi is free to return to his job. Tunoi and Rawal are still serving as judges as their over-age case goes on. Kamwana action is nothing but illegal move meant to shield the corrupt forces from being exposed.
Kamwana probably think supreme court can be saved...I think it beyond salvage..it need to be reconstituted afresh.
Now you seem to be getting it
I was telling someone at nipate...........
No use speculating how its going to go from here.
The Tunoi tribunal manenoz are officially over and done with kabisa kabisa
The only thing remaining is the usual noise from the anti-development ODM Jaconist's
hapa ni Kenya.......hivo ndivo kunaendanga
Respectfully;
Next......
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Uhuru has a very narrow mind. He thinks that Kenyans will continue to "akaa hivyo hivyo". This tyranny by numbers is anti development. An excellent judiciary is better that an excellent president.
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Uhuru has a very narrow mind. He thinks that Kenyans will continue to "akaa hivyo hivyo". This tyranny by numbers is anti development. An excellent judiciary is better that an excellent president.
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Uhuru has a very narrow mind. He thinks that Kenyans will continue to "akaa hivyo hivyo". This tyranny by numbers is anti development. An excellent judiciary is better that an excellent president.
I can't fault his calculus on that score. kamwana is shitting on Kenyans because he knows he will not only get away with it, but have a good chunk of his own victims ready to jump off a cliff on his behalf.
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Now all that is water under the bridge. The tribunal has been formed.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Tunoi-suspended-pending-tribunal-probe/-/1056/3089422/-/kftrk2z/-/index.html
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Nothing like water under the bridge. Can you explain the dilly dallying of Uhuru on this very obvious issue?
Guy should sober up and do his job but I guess we are asking too much from him.
Now all that is water under the bridge. The tribunal has been formed.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Tunoi-suspended-pending-tribunal-probe/-/1056/3089422/-/kftrk2z/-/index.html
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Nothing like water under the bridge. Can you explain the dilly dallying of Uhuru on this very obvious issue?
Guy should sober up and do his job but I guess we are asking too much from him.
Now all that is water under the bridge. The tribunal has been formed.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Tunoi-suspended-pending-tribunal-probe/-/1056/3089422/-/kftrk2z/-/index.html
Given what we know about how this regime operates, thanks to Kabura, nothing says the tribunal don't already have their brief. I won't be surprised if they sanitize Tunoi.
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First, files were missing.
Second, there was a constitutional crisis.
Next?