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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Globalcitizen12 on December 27, 2015, 05:12:18 PM

Title: maasai and kipsigisi ongoing clashes
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on December 27, 2015, 05:12:18 PM
Looks like maasai want kipsigisi out of mau area. I wonder if kipsigisi have the staying power to defend themselves against maasai. Does this  have any political implication going into 2017?
Title: Re: maasai and kipsigisi ongoing clashes
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 28, 2015, 12:16:04 AM
Quite a few clashes involving Maasais in recent times.  How is it that we never hear of such clashes involving their kin on the Tanzanian side of the border?
Title: Re: maasai and kipsigisi ongoing clashes
Post by: Georgesoros on December 28, 2015, 01:00:27 AM
The state owns the land in Tanzania, same in Ethiopia.
Title: Re: maasai and kipsigisi ongoing clashes
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on December 28, 2015, 01:23:03 AM
So if the state owns land how do you get farming rights? Or any developing right
Title: Re: maasai and kipsigisi ongoing clashes
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 28, 2015, 03:39:38 PM
The state owns the land in Tanzania, same in Ethiopia.
Could it also be the national culture?  That TZ Maasai see themselves as Tanzanian first.  That how TZ goes is how they go?
Title: Re: maasai and kipsigisi ongoing clashes
Post by: gout on January 02, 2016, 04:54:59 PM
what is the size of the affected  village(s) like..... the numbers of those displaced got me on thinking ....680 families- 2,000 women, children, elderly and few men who can't spend nights in bushes..... that is concerning population density for pastoralist community (not sure about how large farming group is)

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At least 2,000 people spent their Christmas night in the cold after fighting between two communities sent hundreds fleeing from their homes in Narok. By Saturday, the estimated 500 families had not returned to their homes as the violence escalated.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Hundreds-of-families-displaced-in-ongoing-Narok-clashes/-/1056/3010532/-/aqniqoz/-/index.html
Title: Re: maasai and kipsigisi ongoing clashes
Post by: machoman on January 03, 2016, 12:41:22 AM
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