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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Globalcitizen12 on November 10, 2015, 07:30:55 PM
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Ahmednasir Abdullahi
?@ahmednasirlaw Intelligence report prepared for the presidency/jubilee shows support in central stands at 60% and 20% at rift valley...alarm bells ringing
That is the tweet from Grand Mullah of Grandiose utterances.. I belief so even those hardened Uhuru loyalists are starting to doubt his ability to govern effectively and stamp out looting. Most supporters of Jubilee are very unsure of Uhuru they think he has a "personal flaw" this personal flaw is attributed to his status as a rich boy and his own vice of alcoholism. Whispers are becoming louder and louder.. Nyeri Mps recent revolt shows that the ground is shifting away from Uhuru to an alternative candidate
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Such figures have no practical significance: In 2017, everyone in Central will vote for Uhuru, as will all the RV sheep (for whom Ruto was paid for ages ago).
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Such figures have no practical significance: In 2017, everyone in Central will vote for Uhuru, as will all the RV sheep (for whom Ruto was paid for ages ago).
As sure as cattle to the slaughterhouse. Issue oriented politics are for a different time. For a generation perhaps having reaped the full rewards of the current type of politics.
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very sad tribalism is a terrible vice
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I think NIS has credible evidence that uhuru relection will be impossible no wonder Moi was meeting Uhuru today to strategize on how to gain back trust
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uhuru is a hometown boy and central is his.
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It no brainer. Uhuru will win Central and RV votes if election are held today.
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the key question is can Uhuru maintain his 50.9%? Are voters not concerned about corruption and bad economy..?
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We will find out that around 2017. It too early to ran the numbers. 3 months to elections..when all alignment and realignment (tribal) have been confirmed and finalized...we can then be able to guesstimate.
the key question is can Uhuru maintain his 50.9%? Are voters not concerned about corruption and bad economy..?
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can Kenya move beyond tribal alignments? I think in 20 years when the young post moi era kids will be leadership this will be possible
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can Kenya move beyond tribal alignments? I think in 20 years when the young post moi era kids will be leadership this will be possible
Not with the current elite in place.
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Windy,
You just made a Self defeatist statement .. I believe we can be the new elites. We can defeat the current barons and not get coopted by them. I know people want to have their cake and eat it too.. Meaning we want to make political noise and not act on it. We want to be politicians but not seek office.
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Windy,
You just mad a Self defeatist statement .. I believe we can be the new elites. We can defeat the current barons and not get coopted by them
I think that's a good way to think. But I don't think there is really a clean way of doing that? It seems that as soon as one becomes part of the eating class, they become hostage to one or other tribal elite. Look at Martha Karua during NARC's time, Kiraitu Murungi, Raila himself.
Talking of which, Raila is in a very good position to change wanjiku's life, even without holding power. But does he ever do it? Without meaning to sound like a jubilant youth winger, since he left power, how many toilets has Raila helped build in Kibera? Or even Mathare? There is nothing stopping him from getting involved in those people's lives in a positive way. He has the resources, connections and I believe the time to do it. But he doesn't.
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I think you have to understand Raila way of doing things. From studying Raila I have to say he strongly believes that his role should be to promote FDI investments in Kenya. He is a strong Keynesian believer due to the influence of Professor Nyongo. He strongly supports big infrastructure projects, he is willing to condone corruption in tendering for these projects as long as the project main goal is achieved. He despises Welfare because according to his own Biography “memoir” he believes that his dad altruism led to his family bankruptcy. He believes that you cannot support an individual to pursue education at the expense of community. He despises Jaramogi model of doling welfare to Nyanza residents for political support. Raila never gives handouts. He is as stingy as Kibaki because he believes trickle down economics works well for the poor. Observe the man actions not his rhetoric.
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I think you have to understand Raila way of doing things. From studying Raila I have to say he strongly believes that his role should be to promote FDI investments in Kenya. He is a strong Keynesian believer due to the influence of Professor Nyongo. He strongly supports big infrastructure projects, he is willing to condone corruption in tendering for these projects as long as the project main goal is achieved. He despises Welfare because according to his own Biography “memoir” he believes that his dad altruism led to his family bankruptcy. He believes that you cannot support an individual to pursue education at the expense of community. He despises Jaramogi model of doling welfare to Nyanza residents for political support. Raila never gives handouts. He is as stingy as Kibaki because he believes trickle down economics works well for the poor. Observe the man actions not his rhetoric.
I think he is just another African leader. And he likes his chances with the current state of affairs. I don't consider his an economic school of thought. But rather cold blooded calculation for selfish personal gain regardless of how that affects wanjiku. I can't blame him. He has been on the cusp of getting the ultimate prize for some time now.
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I think you have to understand Raila way of doing things .... He strongly supports big infrastructure projects, he is willing to condone corruption in tendering for these projects as long as the project main goal is achieved.
Interesting viewpoint. In that case, why should he and the coalition he leads be voted in as replacements for Uhuru and his coalition (which are "doing well" in big-infrastructure+corruption)?
Also Terminator's question is about "getting involved in those people's lives in a positive way". If his "strong Keynesian" beliefs prevent him from doing that, then neither he nor them are of much value. (Getting involved in such a manner, as in the simple matter of helping toilets in slums, is not necessarily "welfare".)
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There is no big difference between the two ideologically same side of the coin
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Rails believes in eliminating slums not upgrading them ..he believes in building high rises and demolish pit latrines replacing them with modern sewers on this end he spent 500 million in kibera housing project