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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 12, 2015, 11:54:36 AM

Title: Who Uses Biogas in Kenya?
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 12, 2015, 11:54:36 AM
What's the level of investment in it?  It looks like it could be a huge benefit for environment.  Forests and the likes.

With flying toilets in Mathare, Korogocho etc and the numbers of Kenyans using outhouses in rural areas, it looks like a no brainer. 

Is it one of those things that are good on paper but a shitload, no pun intended, in the real world?
Title: Re: Who Uses Biogas in Kenya?
Post by: gout on October 12, 2015, 12:16:10 PM
Apart from culture, cost is a factor.... we have hyperinflated everything in Kenya.... From cost analysis by KENFAP a small digester installation , burner, cylinder will cost at least Kshs. 70,000 (far higher than initial cost of LPG and electricity) - highly subsidised by donors. Add the design of the cow shed or latrine ....

LPG and hydro/geothermal electricity are the most sensible sources of energy .... this clean/renewable energy looks like too much hat 
Title: Re: Who Uses Biogas in Kenya?
Post by: RV Pundit on October 12, 2015, 02:05:42 PM
You nailed it.
Apart from culture, cost is a factor.... we have hyperinflated everything in Kenya.... From cost analysis by KENFAP a small digester installation , burner, cylinder will cost at least Kshs. 70,000 (far higher than initial cost of LPG and electricity) - highly subsidised by donors. Add the design of the cow shed or latrine ....

LPG and hydro/geothermal electricity are the most sensible sources of energy .... this clean/renewable energy looks like too much hat 
Title: Re: Who Uses Biogas in Kenya?
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 12, 2015, 06:19:01 PM
Apart from culture, cost is a factor.... we have hyperinflated everything in Kenya.... From cost analysis by KENFAP a small digester installation , burner, cylinder will cost at least Kshs. 70,000 (far higher than initial cost of LPG and electricity) - highly subsidised by donors. Add the design of the cow shed or latrine ....

LPG and hydro/geothermal electricity are the most sensible sources of energy .... this clean/renewable energy looks like too much hat 
That's interesting.  So I guess it's more than just harvesting the gas from waste.  I was thinking it was that easy.  One way of disposing off shit. 

Perhaps a county or two could come together and promote the building of digesters.  These look like things a local entrepreneur should be able to easily make http://www.completebiogas.com/B_55Gal.html.
Title: Re: Who Uses Biogas in Kenya?
Post by: MOON Ki on October 12, 2015, 07:19:57 PM
With flying toilets in Mathare, Korogocho etc and the numbers of Kenyans using outhouses in rural areas, it looks like a no brainer. 

There have been some efforts in that direction: http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2014/oct/15/poo-power-renewable-energy-kenya-slums-biogas

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“Every individual creates 300g of human waste each day, and 60% of Nairobi’s four million inhabitants live in its informal settlements – that’s 2.4 million people,” says Omotto. “What we have in Nairobi is 720,000 kg of shit. We want to turn it into biogas so that we can tackle the energy crisis.”

There is also this not-all-poop one:  http://www.tropicalpower.com/projects/gorge-farm-energy-park/  and it is not tiny.

Generally, there is a national biogas programme that the Dutch have been funding and supporting for some years.
Title: Re: Who Uses Biogas in Kenya?
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 13, 2015, 01:54:29 AM
With flying toilets in Mathare, Korogocho etc and the numbers of Kenyans using outhouses in rural areas, it looks like a no brainer. 

There have been some efforts in that direction: http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2014/oct/15/poo-power-renewable-energy-kenya-slums-biogas (http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2014/oct/15/poo-power-renewable-energy-kenya-slums-biogas)

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“Every individual creates 300g of human waste each day, and 60% of Nairobi’s four million inhabitants live in its informal settlements – that’s 2.4 million people,” says Omotto. “What we have in Nairobi is 720,000 kg of shit. We want to turn it into biogas so that we can tackle the energy crisis.”

There is also this not-all-poop one:  http://www.tropicalpower.com/projects/gorge-farm-energy-park/ (http://www.tropicalpower.com/projects/gorge-farm-energy-park/)  and it is not tiny.

Generally, there is a national biogas programme that the Dutch have been funding and supporting for some years.

Pretty cool stuff.  Looks like Europeans are very up to speed with this appropriate technology.  It could even be a byproduct of garbage disposal.  Get rid of garbage and generate energy while at it.  Maybe some project for students in some technical institution in Kenya could pick up.