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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Georgesoros on July 06, 2015, 03:23:49 PM

Title: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Georgesoros on July 06, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
Lack of opportunities that has led the young to drink themselves to death?
Someone who is busy will have little time to engage in anything but their work.
so war should be declared on lack of opportunities.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: MOON Ki on July 06, 2015, 03:44:39 PM
Youth unemployment in Kenya is a disaster in the making.   

Anyways ... this War on Booze does have some entertaining aspects, such as when the warriors break into bars and other facilities and proceed to destroy the "dangerous" products by getting loaded on them.

Even more amusing is that Uhuru, of all people, is the "patron" of this war.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2015, 03:57:50 PM
The descent into lawlessness is really shameful.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Kadudu on July 06, 2015, 04:01:48 PM
What did you expect from Uhuru?
He saw what happened when Waititu and his mob decended on shops and yet Uhuru went on to encourage other Central MPs to repeat what Waititu had done.
Just like the war on corruption this one has ended before it began.

The descent into lawlessness is really shameful.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Georgesoros on July 06, 2015, 04:07:14 PM
Seriously, the booze was legal. But the lawlessness that has been meted on bars and other businesses is very shameful. Kenyatta and the Waititus have to respect private property. People invested their money in this, and now they lost all of it in a single day. In a court of law, these individuals will win n  the rest of Kenyans will pay.


The descent into lawlessness is really shameful.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Kadudu on July 06, 2015, 04:31:40 PM
One manufacturer cried the minute he saw Waititu and his mob appear at his premises. The fellow had invested 0.5B Ksh in the factory and was about to see everything go up in smoke. Waititu felt pity for the guy and he was let go. Waititu is now the lord over mercy in Kiambu.
BTW where is Kabogo hiding?

Seriously, the booze was legal. But the lawlessness that has been meted on bars and other businesses is very shameful. Kenyatta and the Waititus have to respect private property. People invested their money in this, and now they lost all of it in a single day. In a court of law, these individuals will win n  the rest of Kenyans will pay.


The descent into lawlessness is really shameful.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
They should be held responsible personally.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 06, 2015, 06:34:03 PM
There is a strong link between countries that were occupied by bazungu settlers and alcohol abuse.  You see that in Kenya, Zambia, south Africa, Zimbabwe. 

This was an innocent observation from a Naija who has been around many Africans.  I could not find fault with it.

People from those countries drink alcohol like their life depends on it.  And the problem affects all strata of society.

What is ridiculous?  Kamwana going after boozers and appearing on national TV drunk like a skunk during national tragedies.

Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: vooke on July 07, 2015, 08:40:12 AM
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Georgesoros on July 07, 2015, 02:06:20 PM
Someone invaded Kenyatta's real stuff and he had to do something. He ordered an illegal destruction of private property. He's used to mob justice so he did not have to think twice. He should be  the only red eyed alcoholic. I hate alcoholism but loathe mob justice.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: RV Pundit on July 07, 2015, 07:00:40 PM
Waitutu and his gang
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJUKTH1WcAEKDGI.png)
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Georgesoros on July 07, 2015, 07:28:24 PM
Waitutu and his gang
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJUKTH1WcAEKDGI.png)

Given what happened in the near past this is very very dangerous. Someone else will also come up with their gang and next thing we have  is Mexico.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Georgesoros on July 07, 2015, 10:34:07 PM
Now they are attacking Keroche Breweries. Wow!!
So no investment in Kenya is safe. Goons are hired to destroy property!!!
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: RV Pundit on July 08, 2015, 07:30:17 AM
When you dovetail it with NYS it look like we are practising for more devastating round of PEV violence. People should be warned.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: MOON Ki on July 08, 2015, 07:47:36 AM
When you dovetail it with NYS it look like we are practising for more devastating round of PEV violence. People should be warned.

One hope not, but this sort of thing spells serious trouble in the long run:

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/kill-people-opposing-nys-kuria#sthash.zHe2rrXU.dpbs
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Reticent Solipsist on July 08, 2015, 09:31:27 AM
Waitutu and his gang
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJUKTH1WcAEKDGI.png)

The two "honorables" ahem despicables are probably the vanguard of the Mungiki that was unleashed on the enemy tribes in Naivasha during the PEV violence of 2008. As it were, these two bare knuckle street fighters really seem to have earned the trust of the Boss for past efforts. The NYS, on the other hand, serves the role of a praetorian guard or something analogous.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: RV Pundit on July 08, 2015, 10:47:22 AM
Precisely. Waitutu was heavily involved in Naivasha.Moses Kuria was still slaving in Dubai I think and he is keen to be the next Mungiki leader.
ables" ahem despicables are probably the vanguard of the Mungiki that was unleashed on the enemy tribes in Naivasha during the PEV violence of 2008. As it were, these two bare knuckle street fighters really seem to have earned the trust of the Boss for past efforts. The NYS, on the other hand, serves the role of a praetorian guard or something analogous.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 08, 2015, 06:05:55 PM
When you dovetail it with NYS it look like we are practising for more devastating round of PEV violence. People should be warned.

One hope not, but this sort of thing spells serious trouble in the long run:

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/kill-people-opposing-nys-kuria#sthash.zHe2rrXU.dpbs (http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/kill-people-opposing-nys-kuria#sthash.zHe2rrXU.dpbs)
When you remove bazungu from the equation by neutralizing ICC, the Negro can and will freely say these things.  You can fully expect Kuria to be handled the African way.  In Rwanda it was "cut the tall trees".   
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: vooke on July 08, 2015, 06:41:32 PM
I make as much out of Kuria as Jakoyo's  (http://jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/6819) 'Jakom, these people are trying to kill you' or something to that effect; a reckless statement meant to pamper your mboss more than anything else. But CORD would be full of retards to miss an ocassion to make Everest out of it

Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Omollo on July 08, 2015, 07:44:02 PM
Jubilee is going for broke. There is no example of a government that has started disorder and benefited from it. Mugabe had to reign in Hitler Hunzvi or he would have lost the country. He lost the narrative and the Land Reform got derailed and served BBC and the whites quite well.

Habyarimana became a victim of his own militia and his people lost the land.

The way I see it - and let Pundit correct me - arming Kikuyus and inciting them to violence will ultimately explode in RV and perhaps the slums of Nairobi. Jubilee has the RV vote already and I see nothing they would gain by instigating chaos over there.

They may want to use violence in Kisii exploiting clanism.  I still see them losing. The real target - Nyanza will remain out of their reach. If it catches on in Western, it is emigre Kikuyus who will suffer.

In the meantime, Al Shabaab would get an unwanted relief as KDF is diverted to fight tribal wars.

However you look at it, Jubilee loses. The best outcome would be a military coup - which is the usual logical end of any government inspired chaos.

I know some will point at Moi. His was to engineer mini "clashes" directed at disenfranchising emigre Kikuyus. Unless Uhuru knows of Luo enclaves he wishes to disenfranchise, this is a stupid wasteful self inflicted gun shot in the foot.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: MOON Ki on July 09, 2015, 12:34:16 AM
I make as much out of Kuria as Jakoyo's  (http://jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/6819) 'Jakom, these people are trying to kill you' or something to that effect; a reckless statement meant to pamper your mboss more than anything else. But CORD would be full of retards to miss an ocassion to make Everest out of it

Urging people to go out and chop others with pangas is similar a wild claim of an assassination?   Wow.

Your remarks on this forum are always "amusing" and enlightening when read beside your holy-holy bits on the "Controversial" forum.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Georgesoros on July 09, 2015, 01:13:12 AM
Kenya seriously lacks leadership. Kibaki let the law take its course but Kenyatta supports hooliganism and chaos. When you encourage leaders to take the law in their hands and destroy private property then one can call it nothing else. Yes there's alcoholism, but the moonshine guys should be brought to justice, not the law  abider.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: RV Pundit on July 09, 2015, 07:43:35 AM
Indeed that is amusing comparison. Kuria deserves commendation with equivocation.
Urging people to go out and chop others with pangas is similar a wild claim of an assassination?   Wow.

Your remarks on this forum are always "amusing" and enlightening when read beside your holy-holy bits on the "Controversial" forum.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: vooke on July 09, 2015, 08:09:18 AM
I make as much out of Kuria as Jakoyo's  (http://jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/6819) 'Jakom, these people are trying to kill you' or something to that effect; a reckless statement meant to pamper your mboss more than anything else. But CORD would be full of retards to miss an ocassion to make Everest out of it

Urging people to go out and chop others with pangas is similar a wild claim of an assassination?   Wow.

Your remarks on this forum are always "amusing" and enlightening when read beside your holy-holy bits on the "Controversial" forum.
Who do you think Kuria had in mind? The Kibera residents who burnt some toilet or the politicians who are demanding Waiguru step down?

None of that makes any sense,and thats why I said it was nothing more than a sensational remark meant to impress Ouru more than executing Wamajuu enemies. Jakoyo' was equally sensational hot air.

Of course I know the narrative,Jubirlee is arming youths/mungiki for PEV 2.0 and this was a slip of the tongue bla de bla.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Reticent Solipsist on July 09, 2015, 11:40:10 AM
I concur with MOON Ki that there is absolutely no moral equivalent between what the excitable and clownish Jakoyo said in the past situation and what this grotesque buffoon Moses Kuria said in this instance. It would seem that folks like Kuria and Waititu have yet to grasp that Kenya is a democracy and that Uhuru is not imbued with theomorphic or anthropomorphic qualities.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: vooke on July 09, 2015, 11:45:57 AM
I concur with MOON Ki that there is absolutely no moral equivalent between what the excitable and clownish Jakoyo said in the past situation and what this grotesque buffoon Moses Kuria said in this instance. It would seem that folks like Kuria and Waititu have yet to grasp that Kenya is a democracy and that Uhuru is not imbued with theomorphic or anthropomorphic qualities.
And nobody attempted to equate the two.
Both rants are essentially loyalty pledge to the boss and nothing else
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: RV Pundit on July 09, 2015, 12:36:46 PM
vooke, it something else to say drunken gibberish like Jakoyo did but it another thing to do what Kuria with a background of armed youths wielding panga. That is very dangerous slippery slope we don't want to go.

The last I saw that kind of reckless stupidity was Nyachae Snr leading marauding youths to attack Ruto and Magara ostensibly for gate crushing into his harambee.

That is the only sensible comparison.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 09, 2015, 12:43:31 PM
I concur with MOON Ki that there is absolutely no moral equivalent between what the excitable and clownish Jakoyo said in the past situation and what this grotesque buffoon Moses Kuria said in this instance. It would seem that folks like Kuria and Waititu have yet to grasp that Kenya is a democracy and that Uhuru is not imbued with theomorphic or anthropomorphic qualities.
And nobody attempted to equate the two.
Both rants are essentially loyalty pledge to the boss and nothing else
Kuria has a track record of hate mongering and incitement.  Most honest people don't doubt that was a threat against ODM supporters and Luos in particular.  He is the kind of Negro the ICC is supposed to deter.

It's always funny until the first body drops.
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: vooke on July 09, 2015, 01:26:20 PM
vooke, it something else to say drunken gibberish like Jakoyo did but it another thing to do what Kuria with a background of armed youths wielding panga. That is very dangerous slippery slope we don't want to go.

The last I saw that kind of reckless stupidity was Nyachae Snr leading marauding youths to attack Ruto and Magara ostensibly for gate crushing into his harambee.

That is the only sensible comparison.
Here is my point, the idea of armed youth in the heart of central Kenya 'defending' Wamajuu is silly. From what?

And recall they was wielding pangas over the illicit brew crackdown. That photo of him and Waititu was taken during such

The statement was reckless and absurd as in next to impossible to implement. That's why I don't take him seriously. But I think that like Sonko or Kobia, he is quickly turning out to be a liability for Jubirlee
Title: Re: War on Illicit liquor a problem or....
Post by: RV Pundit on July 09, 2015, 02:56:01 PM
Like Windy City said; these kind of funny jokes can take a life of it's own; there are thousands of Kuria out there who will do the same; This negro need to be put away. These kind of joke can cause strife in places where folks are mixed...a Jaluo Kuria in Kisumu will be out there threatening TNA or Kikuyus.

This kind of nonsense is neither funny nor need to be taken lightly.

Here is my point, the idea of armed youth in the heart of central Kenya 'defending' Wamajuu is silly. From what?

And recall they was wielding pangas over the illicit brew crackdown. That photo of him and Waititu was taken during such

The statement was reckless and absurd as in next to impossible to implement. That's why I don't take him seriously. But I think that like Sonko or Kobia, he is quickly turning out to be a liability for Jubirlee