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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on June 24, 2015, 01:46:45 PM
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Am I the only one finding this extremely funny or what? Was this a lack of creativity? Ms. Things of Desire????
I am from now on calling Waiguru by her rightful name: Ms Things of Desire!
On May 25, 2015, Ms Things of Desire was paid Sh37.5 million, in two transactions, for supply of rice.
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Plus Mutahi two firms..Transmedia and Hse of consultancy or something like that. This NYS need to be shone the light. 25B they just got is a lot of money. Enough to finance CDF countrywide. Enough to build a super highway.
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Here is the depth of corruption.
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/cid-probes-if-nys-deputy-boss-approved-sh695m-payments#sthash.PIpunwtK.x6tYb99H.dpbs
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Plus Mutahi two firms..Transmedia and Hse of consultancy or something like that. This NYS need to be shone the light. 25B they just got is a lot of money. Enough to finance CDF countrywide. Enough to build a super highway.
Pundit
Can you imagine how hard it would have been for us to even get a quarter of the 2013 votes if Jubilee had just eliminated corruption in their projects?
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It was CBK and Treasury that blew the whistle and passed the info to the media. Now all the guns are directed at Raila who called for a probe. Ms. Things of Desire has engaged her usual ploy of demos and buying MPs
Kakamega MPs got their share and issued their support early today; Central MPs are in the box asking Uhuru to defend Ms. Things of Desire; I heard Mombasa MPs are meeting to issue a supportive statement of her. This makes her look as guilty as sin.
Here is the depth of corruption.
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/cid-probes-if-nys-deputy-boss-approved-sh695m-payments#sthash.PIpunwtK.x6tYb99H.dpbs
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As soon as the alarm was sounded, the prosecutors should have moved to investigate these deals. Uhuru can bribe all mps but the judiciary needs to get on the ball. 40mil for consultancy sounds suspicious.
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Am I the only one finding this extremely funny or what? Was this a lack of creativity? Ms. Things of Desire????
Names like that are common in large cities all over the world---for certain questionable organizations that tend to be located near the main railway station.
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Almost every week there is a new scandal. And those are the ones we learn about. Every fucking week.
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Almost every week there is a new scandal. And those are the ones we learn about. Every fucking week.
I have in fact, a couple months ago, spent about 30 minutes going through a couple of years' worth of media (Daily Nation, Standard, etc.) to find a week without a corruption scandal. Near-impossible.
Part of why I don't share Pundit's view that we are just poor, unfortunate folk who need more help from elsewhere.
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its a govt. that lacks leadership. Its more about gathering power to the topmost than delivering services. Mpigs are busy gathering power, and so is the executive. And the poor are busy rejoicing that their tribesman has more power than the other and go around shouting Juu Juu. Sucks!!!
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Are suppliers not supposed to have a track record? Were they ever prequalified?
The list of six companies indicated in the IFMIS system where NYS risked losing Sh826m of disputed payments for road construction and building materials has emerged.
Curiously the companies seem to share directors and registered between November and December 2014.
Form Homes Builders, whose director is Josephine Kabura Irungu, received tenders worth Sh154,950,000, the company was registered in November 2014.
Draco Capital, whose directors are Peter Omari Otwoma and Caroline Njambi Kinuthia, received tenders worth Sh115,800,000 in December 2014.
Roof and All Trading, director Josephine Kabura Irungu, received a Sh77,250,000 tender in November 2014.
Reinforced Concrete Technologies, director Josephine Kabura Irungu, received a Sh115,800,000 tender in November 2014.
Grumum Engineering, director Otwoma, received a Sh115,800,000 tender in December 2014
Tegmen Trading, directors Peter Omari Otwoma and Caroline Njambi Kinuthia, received a Sh115,800,000 tender in January 2015.
"The committed amount is Sh695,400,000 while the amount planned for to acquire road construction and building materials was Sh300,000,000," states the CID report.
The explosive report was sent to Waiguru last Friday. BFIU boss Mugwanja told Waiguru that 16 statements had been recorded from NYS and Devolution officials.
On June 5, Waiguru wrote to the CID requesting them to investigate alleged manipulation of the IFMIS payment system at NYS.
- See more at: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/here-list-six-companies-and-directors-sh826m-nys-scam#sthash.MjYpfH0G.dpuf
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I find it extremely insulting as a Negro that they were least creative in covering their tracks. This is an IQ thing. Termie was right. Good weather is a curse.
Things of Desire is either ungrammatical, archaic or direct translation. I don't like the word 'things' and women in the same breath ever since Nonini happened discovered he had no talent
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I find it extremely insulting as a Negro that they were least creative in covering their tracks. This is an IQ thing. Termie was right. Good weather is a curse.
Things of Desire is either ungrammatical, archaic or direct translation. I don't like the word 'things' and women in the same breath ever since Nonini happened discovered he had no talent
Don't put words in my mouth. I don't believe IQ has anything to do with this situation. What needs to be done, and definitely will not be done, does not require any special gifts.
The Negro problem is an utter lack of integrity that seems to be endemic. He cannot and, unfortunately should not, be trusted. But that really applies to everyone in a position of authority.
It is near impossible in Kenya today to name anyone with a chance of leading the country that is not incorrigibly corrupt. And that includes jakom himself.
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I find it extremely insulting as a Negro that they were least creative in covering their tracks. This is an IQ thing. Termie was right. Good weather is a curse.
Things of Desire is either ungrammatical, archaic or direct translation. I don't like the word 'things' and women in the same breath ever since Nonini happened discovered he had no talent
Don't put words in my mouth. I don't believe IQ has anything to do with this situation. What needs to be done, and definitely will not be done, does not require any special gifts.
The Negro problem is an utter lack of integrity that seems to be endemic. He cannot and, unfortunately should not, be trusted. But that really applies to everyone in a position of authority.
It is near impossible in Kenya today to name anyone with a chance of leading the country that is not incorrigibly corrupt. And that includes jakom himself.
The IQ has everything to do with it. How do you pull such a silly heist? Open multiple companies with the same directors and award you with mega contracts. You should at least attempt to cover your tracks. Of course knowing chances of conviction and sentencing being next to bill makes the looters lazy but surely there ought to be some modicum of intelligence in stealing.
Heard of that boy who ran an eBay of some sort using bitcoins and sold drugs of all kinds? He raked hundreds of millions and went for so long before being nabbed. That's some brains I can salute
Clay and vomit, right on point
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I find it extremely insulting as a Negro that they were least creative in covering their tracks. This is an IQ thing. Termie was right. Good weather is a curse.
Things of Desire is either ungrammatical, archaic or direct translation. I don't like the word 'things' and women in the same breath ever since Nonini happened discovered he had no talent
Don't put words in my mouth. I don't believe IQ has anything to do with this situation. What needs to be done, and definitely will not be done, does not require any special gifts.
The Negro problem is an utter lack of integrity that seems to be endemic. He cannot and, unfortunately should not, be trusted. But that really applies to everyone in a position of authority.
It is near impossible in Kenya today to name anyone with a chance of leading the country that is not incorrigibly corrupt. And that includes jakom himself.
The IQ has everything to do with it. How do you pull such a silly heist? Open multiple companies with the same directors and award you with mega contracts. You should at least attempt to cover your tracks. Of course knowing chances of conviction and sentencing being next to bill makes the looters lazy but surely there ought to be some modicum of intelligence in stealing.
Clay and vomit, right on point
We all know Waiguru will not be put to task in any meanigful way. There will be noise in the media. And those "responsible" for ensuring it does not pay will not do their work. So how is that a low IQ move?
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Are suppliers not supposed to have a track record? Were they ever prequalified?
The list of six companies indicated in the IFMIS system where NYS risked losing Sh826m of disputed payments for road construction and building materials has emerged.
Curiously the companies seem to share directors and registered between November and December 2014.
Form Homes Builders, whose director is Josephine Kabura Irungu, received tenders worth Sh154,950,000, the company was registered in November 2014.
Draco Capital, whose directors are Peter Omari Otwoma and Caroline Njambi Kinuthia, received tenders worth Sh115,800,000 in December 2014.
Roof and All Trading, director Josephine Kabura Irungu, received a Sh77,250,000 tender in November 2014.
Reinforced Concrete Technologies, director Josephine Kabura Irungu, received a Sh115,800,000 tender in November 2014.
Grumum Engineering, director Otwoma, received a Sh115,800,000 tender in December 2014
Tegmen Trading, directors Peter Omari Otwoma and Caroline Njambi Kinuthia, received a Sh115,800,000 tender in January 2015.
"The committed amount is Sh695,400,000 while the amount planned for to acquire road construction and building materials was Sh300,000,000," states the CID report.
The explosive report was sent to Waiguru last Friday. BFIU boss Mugwanja told Waiguru that 16 statements had been recorded from NYS and Devolution officials.
On June 5, Waiguru wrote to the CID requesting them to investigate alleged manipulation of the IFMIS payment system at NYS.
- See more at: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/here-list-six-companies-and-directors-sh826m-nys-scam#sthash.MjYpfH0G.dpuf (http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/here-list-six-companies-and-directors-sh826m-nys-scam#sthash.MjYpfH0G.dpuf)
I think we can be fairly certain that today Josephine Kabura Irungu is not eating grass. I am hearing a story along the lines that the computer system was hacked. What is the evidence for that?
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Seems like its easier to steal from govt than Raila's house. Besides, with govt you can steal billions. :)
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I think we can be fairly certain that today Josephine Kabura Irungu is not eating grass. I am hearing a story along the lines that the computer system was hacked. What is the evidence for that?
The hacking story balloon was flying high until the usual ineptness puncture it. They found the culprit and then absolved him immediately:
Investigations into the attempted fraud at the National Youth Service (NYS) moved up a gear with cyber-crime detectives said to have zeroed in on the IP (Internet Protocol) address of the computer used in the transaction. The Banking Fraud Investigations Unit (BFIU) traced the processing of tenders for road construction and supply of building materials worth Sh122.2 million to the principal secretary in the Devolution ministry, and cleared it as sound. Detectives are now focusing on Sh695.4 million in the second transaction.
Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000166805/cid-chase-fresh-lead-in-nys-fraud-investigation/
In other words, the PS sat quietly and watched as his "desperately" minister called the CID to determine who had made the suspicious transaction while knowing all the while that he had done it. The matter went to the media and created a ping pong of letters between CBK, Treasury, Devolution (his own Ministry) NYS and CID and he said nothing.
However when the CID found out that the IP belonged to his computer, he said the transaction was "clean" and they moved on... They did not take down his statement or ask to get an explanation why he kept quiet. They did not ask whether Waiguru knew about this (or did not know). In my book knowing and not knowing committed by a senior officer earn the same grade!
Now the clincher: The Officer in Charge of the BFIU Joseph Mugwanga in a response letter to Waiguru on the progress of the probe, says only the forensic examination being conducted on the six computers seized from NYS employees, could unearth the person who made the fraudulent entries.
Which part of the Law allows the police to update Waiguru on the progress of the investigations in which she may well be the perpetrator? What happened to the independence that the people of Kenya gave the Police? Who made them answerable to Waiguru?
So you can see why she decided to use the CID to whitewash her thievery.
Note also that in decent countries, the directors of the companies would have been the first to be questioned. They are after all the beneficiaries. Why is the CID concentrating on NYS when the beneficiaries are walking free.
Then there is the small detail of whether these services were openly procured.
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I think we can be fairly certain that today Josephine Kabura Irungu is not eating grass. I am hearing a story along the lines that the computer system was hacked. What is the evidence for that?
The hacking story balloon was flying high until the usual ineptness puncture it. They found the culprit and then absolved him immediately:
Investigations into the attempted fraud at the National Youth Service (NYS) moved up a gear with cyber-crime detectives said to have zeroed in on the IP (Internet Protocol) address of the computer used in the transaction. The Banking Fraud Investigations Unit (BFIU) traced the processing of tenders for road construction and supply of building materials worth Sh122.2 million to the principal secretary in the Devolution ministry, and cleared it as sound. Detectives are now focusing on Sh695.4 million in the second transaction.
Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000166805/cid-chase-fresh-lead-in-nys-fraud-investigation/ (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000166805/cid-chase-fresh-lead-in-nys-fraud-investigation/)
In other words, the PS sat quietly and watched as his "desperately" minister called the CID to determine who had made the suspicious transaction while knowing all the while that he had done it. The matter went to the media and created a ping pong of letters between CBK, Treasury, Devolution (his own Ministry) NYS and CID and he said nothing.
However when the CID found out that the IP belonged to his computer, he said the transaction was "clean" and they moved on... They did not take down his statement or ask to get an explanation why he kept quiet. They did not ask whether Waiguru knew about this (or did not know). In my book knowing and not knowing committed by a senior officer earn the same grade!
Now the clincher: The Officer in Charge of the BFIU Joseph Mugwanga in a response letter to Waiguru on the progress of the probe, says only the forensic examination being conducted on the six computers seized from NYS employees, could unearth the person who made the fraudulent entries.
Which part of the Law allows the police to update Waiguru on the progress of the investigations in which she may well be the perpetrator? What happened to the independence that the people of Kenya gave the Police? Who made them answerable to Waiguru?
So you can see why she decided to use the CID to whitewash her thievery.
Note also that in decent countries, the directors of the companies would have been the first to be questioned. They are after all the beneficiaries. Why is the CID concentrating on NYS when the beneficiaries are walking free.
Then there is the small detail of whether these services were openly procured.
This is ugly. In the UK or anywhere civilized, both CS and PS would be in remand waiting for their cases. Very ugly indeed.
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Here is where they money is coming from
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000166677/uhuru-s-2-year-loans-surpass-kibaki-s-last-term-debt
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Esipisu comes out guns blazing in defense of Waiguru. It looks like they will live and die by the stolen password narrative. Has CID completed investigations?
https://soundcloud.com/starvoices/state-house-spokesman-manoah-esipisu-defends-waiguru-over-corruption-at-nys (https://soundcloud.com/starvoices/state-house-spokesman-manoah-esipisu-defends-waiguru-over-corruption-at-nys)
It would be interesting to see the overall layout of IFMIS?
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Esipisu comes out guns blazing in defense of Waiguru. It looks like they will live and die by the stolen password narrative. Has CID completed investigations?
It's a particularly dumb line, but perhaps it fits with our culture, in which the top boss supposedly always has the power and authority to do anything and everything.
Elsewhere, it would be hard to sell the line that Waiguru would have free access to the financial side of the ministry's system (if that is the story) or free access to tinker with the software (if that is the story).
The incident also puts paid to a questionable idea that folks are increasingly swallowing in Kenya---that corruption can be tamed just by using technology and without accounting for the moral deficits in the country. In reality, and as a general rule, technology will never be "better" than the people using it.
There will also be another consequences to the successful selling of this password story: Kenyans engaged in similar mischief will now have a handy and nationally-approved excuse.
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Esipisu comes out guns blazing in defense of Waiguru. It looks like they will live and die by the stolen password narrative. Has CID completed investigations?
It's a particularly dumb line, but perhaps it fits with our culture, in which the top boss supposedly always has the power and authority to do anything and everything.
Elsewhere, it would be hard to sell the line that Waiguru would have free access to the financial side of the ministry's system (if that is the story) or free access to tinker with the software (if that is the story).
The incident also puts paid to a questionable idea that folks are increasingly swallowing in Kenya---that corruption can be tamed just by using technology and without accounting for the moral deficits in the country. In reality, and as a general rule, technology will never be "better" than the people using it.
There will also be another consequences to the successful selling of this password story: Kenyans engaged in similar mischief will now have a handy and nationally-approved excuse.
Technology can actually foster the vice once the people become familiar with its nooks and crannies. In the wrong hands, it's just like any other tool.
If I were the CID I would have laser focus on the people whose passwords "were stolen", unless I have a very good reason to suspect outsiders. Then Waiguru. Then the "suppliers" Josephine Kabura Irungu, Peter Omari Otwoma, Caroline Njambi Kinuthia; they are yet to record a statement to the best of my knowledge.
Asking me to look anywhere else one might as well close the case and move on.
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The next step is to lose everything:
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/No-backup-for-financial-system/-/1056/2765640/-/94mdkrz/-/index.html
Great IT-system planning.
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This is what happens when you have MPIGS and the executive sleeping together
The next step is to lose everything:
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/No-backup-for-financial-system/-/1056/2765640/-/94mdkrz/-/index.html
Great IT-system planning.
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untouchable ghosts with quite innovative names ...no faces yet
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As they would say in the streets: Waiguru ain't goin' nowhere. By continually harping about this lady the Kenyan opposition shows just how clueless it is. And I find it interesting that she honed her management skills in the much vilified world of the "evil society" by way of Transparency International.
The target should be about corruption in government, generally speaking -- talk about the head honcho Uhuru abbeting corruption in this NYS saga -- nepotism, tenders, skewed appointments of the officer corps and enlisted folks at NYS, etc. And something else of note is this one character, Tony Gathecha, who was awarded the tender to supply powdered milk at 50 million Shillings, is he per chance Uhuru's relative? And did Brookside supply the milk?
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Turn out Transcend Media which got contracts is owned by ODM leaning KJ and Odinga daughter Rosemary.
Maybe Waiguru is innocent after all.
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Little wonder rosemary is going after the kibra seat with such vigour. But am sure she will be rejected by the electorate
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Turn out Transcend Media which got contracts is owned by ODM leaning KJ and Odinga daughter Rosemary.
Maybe Waiguru is innocent after all.
The innocence should easy to establish if she "steps aside" and permits unfettered "investigations".
Weeks later we still have not heard a peep about the strange companies and individuals behind them.
Given that this is public domain information, you would think they would at least "record a statement".
There is a stink that will take more than allusions to Raila or Waiguru assertions of innocence to clear.
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Assume the due process is what Uhuru established...then Waiguru cannot resign yet. You would expect EACC to formally open investigation first.
Why EACC and DPP have yet to say a word on this is an indica that someone high up (Uhuru maybe) may have put brakes on that..to save Waiguru. Mt Kenya mps certainly tried to politized EACC and DPP job after Kamau was charged.
But let wait and see. I prefer to remain open-minded. It would be tragic to imagine the Independent EACC and DPP have already been intimidated or corrupted. That would be more tragic than Waiguru alleged heist.It would turn back the little momentum Uhuru had.
Uhuru I think did well by suspending 170 officials including cabinet secretaries. That was unprecedented in the scale. Let hope he has not backtracked.
The innocence should easy to establish if she "steps aside" and permits unfettered "investigations".
Weeks later we still have not heard a peep about the strange companies and individuals behind them.
Given that this is public domain information, you would think they would at least "record a statement".
There is a stink that will take more than allusions to Raila or Waiguru assertions of innocence to clear.
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Assume the due process is what Uhuru established...then Waiguru cannot resign yet. You would expect EACC to formally open investigation first.
Why EACC and DPP have yet to say a word on this is an indica that someone high up (Uhuru maybe) may have put brakes on that..to save Waiguru.
But let wait and see. I prefer to remain open-minded. It would be tragic to imagine the Independent EACC and DPP have already been intimidated. That would be more tragic than Waiguru alleged heist.
Uhuru I think did well by suspending 170 officials including cabinet secretaries. That was unprecedented in the scale. Let hope he has not backtracked.
The innocence should easy to establish if she "steps aside" and permits unfettered "investigations".
Weeks later we still have not heard a peep about the strange companies and individuals behind them.
Given that this is public domain information, you would think they would at least "record a statement".
There is a stink that will take more than allusions to Raila or Waiguru assertions of innocence to clear.
They won't step in. It was only an attempted heist. I am not so much justifying it as going through EACC logic circuits.
My assumption is that whoever stole the passwords must be very tight with these named supplier companies.
I haven't seen anything to suggest the individuals behind these companies have received as much as a phone call from CID almost a month into the investigation.
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EACC has wide mandate to step in. Unless they only depend on whistle blowers, I would expect they can step in and sniff around, and if there is prima facia evidence, they can open a file, Then NYC or Waiguru can step aside.
The password for me is a side issues that seem designed to distract folks. This is copy from Angoleasing. No money was stolen we heard from twisted mouth Kiraitu.
The issue is someone need to audit the contracts that already went through with right passwords. How was the consultancy fee that was paid to Mutahi arrived at? Most people think it was insane to give him 40m for 5 bullet point report.
This is esp critical because NYS has got substantial vote of 25b this year. That is the mandate of EACC.
They won't step in. It was only an attempted heist. I am not so much justifying it as going through EACC logic circuits.
My assumption is that whoever stole the passwords must be very tight with these named supplier companies.
I haven't seen anything to suggest the individuals behind these companies have received as much as a phone call from CID almost a month into the investigation.
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Then the matter should be brought in the open. If Rosemary is found to be culpable, what better opportunity to test his father's resolve than to watch him stay away as his daughter faces what he wants for Waiguru.
I do not take kindly to the sons and daughters of politicians cashing in on corruption and then expecting us to support them as if everything is in order. If anything I would be harder on her than Waiguru.
Turn out Transcend Media which got contracts is owned by ODM leaning KJ and Odinga daughter Rosemary.
Maybe Waiguru is innocent after all.
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All the clever folks in Kenya are eating off the dim ones. Look at the Molasses plant.
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Why EACC and DPP have yet to say a word on this is an indica that someone high up (Uhuru maybe) may have put brakes on that..to save Waiguru. Mt Kenya mps certainly tried to politized EACC and DPP job after Kamau was charged.
But let wait and see. I prefer to remain open-minded. It would be tragic to imagine the Independent EACC and DPP have already been intimidated or corrupted. That would be more tragic than Waiguru alleged heist.It would turn back the little momentum Uhuru had.
For independence, I believe that is already history. It would have helped to have strong personalities to start off as leaders in those institutions.
For instance, it never even registered to Kimaiyo that the police force was independent. The only way he knew how to operate was wait for orders from the boss on his walkie talkie.
EACC waits for the green light from statehouse. Before long, they will be taking direct orders from there.
Once a tradition is established, it's very hard to reverse. Jomo Kenyatta did not even have to change the law to criminalize opposition parties.
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Yes Kimaiyo best exemplifies how independent institution bowed to the presidency. I expect to see more of the same esp as the terms for these guys come to an end. Tobiko and many others are set for renewal..if am not mistaken. or theirs is 8yrs contract. If it's 4...then we will see a lot of kneeling and kowtowing to statehouses.
It a shame...constitution as good as any...but implementation is now kaput.
Why EACC and DPP have yet to say a word on this is an indica that someone high up (Uhuru maybe) may have put brakes on that..to save Waiguru. Mt Kenya mps certainly tried to politized EACC and DPP job after Kamau was charged.
But let wait and see. I prefer to remain open-minded. It would be tragic to imagine the Independent EACC and DPP have already been intimidated or corrupted. That would be more tragic than Waiguru alleged heist.It would turn back the little momentum Uhuru had.
For independence, I believe that is already history. It would have helped to have strong personalities to start off as leaders in those institutions.
For instance, it never even registered to Kimaiyo that the police force was independent. The only way he knew how to operate was wait for orders from the boss on his walkie talkie.
EACC waits for the green light from statehouse. Before long, they will be taking direct orders from there.
Once a tradition is established, it's very hard to reverse. Jomo Kenyatta did not even have to change the law to criminalize opposition parties.
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Uhuru must know that he is not served by having independent offices kneel before him. It sure helps those around him to resort to impunity but it does not help the President.
He is largely immune from those offices as a person and as president. He can talk to those bodies but emphasize to his minions that the offices are independent. He should help to guarantee that independence. He has however already lost the narrative.
If you had a chance to examine Nawaz Sharif's term that ended in the Musharraf coup, you would understand the pitfalls I am describing.
The current Nawaz Shariff has discovered that the Supreme Court could not have defended or protected him because he had wrecked it. Most of the institutions could not resist the coup because Nawaz had weakened them. The man who helped him weaken them now seized power! He had dismissed a loyal Joint Chief of Staff; Attacked the Supreme Court; Emaculated the President by reducing his powers.. Nawaz also had this very poor relations with Western powers, wasting no chance to hit at them.
Musharraf had a very easy time. He became the first general to lead a coup from a jumbo jet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawaz_Sharif