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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Githunguri on August 22, 2025, 03:05:00 AM
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1) Babu Owino shot DJ evolve and organized goons while at University of Nairobi.He was very violent against Uhuru.If you give him power is governor,He will be worse than Sakaja.supporting BABU IS UNFORGIVABLE.
2) If you endorse him together with Sifuna,They will form a team to completely annihilate you and Mt Kenya political bloc in Nairobi.Supporting him will be the second UNFORGIVABLE SIN.
3) Is Babu one of the people organizing goons against you with the support of Kalonzo behind the scenes?You need to think twice.
4) In Nairobi GEMA vote is 40%.
5) Kamba vote is about or less than 10%.
6) The rest Luhya Luo and Kisii vote is less than 40%.
The Somali vote is about or less than 5%.I don't have actual figures.
Incase Babu Owino will run for governor under WIPER and Sakaja is given ODM ticket,They will divide Luhya Kamba Kisii and Luo vote and Hon GAKUYA will be elected Governor
7) The defeat of Babu and Sakaja will be the end of thetheir political careers.
8) With Raila at 83 years and about to exit the political scene,The ascension of Babu Owino to Nairobi Governership will make him the next Luo Kingpin and all the Luos including Aladwa and ojwang will rally behind him.
9) On becoming the Luo Kingpin after Raila,Babu Owino will form a coalition with Murkomen who seems the next Kalenjin leader to fight the likes of Methu in future.
10) This leads us to the fact that some of the people fighting you in Nairobi are from WIPER and Babu Owino networks.
11) In any arrangement with Kalonzo,GEMA must get the Nairobi ticket while Kamba gets senator ticket.Babu Owino and Sifuna should be let to self destruct since they've quit ODM.
12) Supporting Babu and Sifuna is an UNFORGIVABLE SIN.
13) Moving foward you must support GAKUYA and all DCP Nairobi aspirants to form a network to even cushion you from the goons.How will you protect your vote.
14) FOCUS SHOULD BE DCP.Natembeya Kalozno and Matiangi can throw you under the bus any minute.
Anything else is PURE STUPID.
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You are paranoid. RiggyG or Raila don't take advice from the social media or bloggers. RiggyG must create alliances as he is the brain behind the opposition. What matters today is to demonstrate a winning formula or path to victory. He should maintain a cooperative posture even with ODM-KK rebels. Makuzo should be encouraged to join.
IT IS IMPERATIVE TO SCUTTLE RUTO-RAILA GAME.
Babu Owino and Sifuna are very good foot soldiers to have at the moment since they threaten to break ODM.
KALONZO IS DESPERATE FOR GEMA SUPPORT.
This is a worthwhile expedient because it keeps any anti-Kikuyu narrative in check. Feed his ego - keep him drunk on hope.
MBEERE IS DO OR DIE.
Soprano and Uhuru must be TKOd here. Find a way to accommodate JB Muturi DP - even get his personal pick to vie under DCP. Similarly encourage cooperation/zoning in Malava, Banissa, Magarini, etc. Domino effect.
In short it's okay to lie with the fleas in politics. Ruto massacred Kikuyus and still helped Uhuru. If the latter had your attitude Raila would have taken the presidency in 2013.
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Uhuru's ignorance cost Azimio the Nairobi governor seat in 2022. Tim Wanyonyi would have won. Now don't underestimate Sakaja - he is a fox and was behind Sonko impeachment. Blaming him for the goons is a good tackle. Letting Babu Owino loose on him and Aladwa is even better. Gakuya should enter the race much later.
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In Nairobi GEMA has over 600k votes.Currently has about 40 elected MCAs.50% of County assembly.
He should leave Nairobi politics to GAKUYA.Gakuya should Map out 40 loyal MCAs who should have a group of 100 Supporters each.When having political events they should be mobilized and given transport.
No way goons can repel group of 4000 people.If they throw stones,They stop the nonsense.
Otherwise,Sidelining GAKUYA and allowing Malala idiocy and Babu Owino nonsense is PURE STUPID.
Gachagua is very disorganised and indecisive.
Kumbaff.
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Uhuru's ignorance cost Azimio the Nairobi governor seat in 2022. Tim Wanyonyi would have won. Now don't underestimate Sakaja - he is a fox and was behind Sonko impeachment. Blaming him for the goons is a good tackle. Letting Babu Owino loose on him and Aladwa is even better. Gakuya should enter the race much later.
Stop talking nonsense
If both Wanyonyi and Sakaja Igathe would have won.
Luhya Luo Kisii vote will be divided between Babu Owino and Sakaja.There is no other formula.
GAKUYA wins.
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Unless Gachagua is a fool or an idiot that's when he should support Babu or sifuna.I would never support those bitches.
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If they betrayed him during impeachment they will do even even worse moving foward
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Wacha hiyo ethnic trend. Gen Zs want to move Kenya forward and then you come up with your silly ethnic calculations. It seems all you want is a Gema govornor of Nairobi. Gema has had more than 34 years to lead the country. Where are we today? Without Gema votes Kasongo would not be leading Kenya to disaster today. First apologise to the country for being cheated by peeople like Gachagua.
In Nairobi GEMA has over 600k votes.Currently has about 40 elected MCAs.50% of County assembly.
He should leave Nairobi politics to GAKUYA.Gakuya should Map out 40 loyal MCAs who should have a group of 100 Supporters each.When having political events they should be mobilized and given transport.
No way goons can repel group of 4000 people.If they throw stones,They stop the nonsense.
Otherwise,Sidelining GAKUYA and allowing Malala idiocy and Babu Owino nonsense is PURE STUPID.
Gachagua is very disorganised and indecisive.
Kumbaff.
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2009 Census.
Kikuyu 29% of Nairobi - Gema combined should be 33%.
Luos and Kambas 17% each
Luhyas 15%.
Now 20yrs later - I expect Kikuyus be 25% - GEMA 30% of Nairobi; Kambas & Luos & Luhyas 15% each;
Somalis, Gusii, Kalenjin, etc - 5%.
Sakaja has managed to handle Luhya Tim - gone to Bungoma.
He has Raila for Luo - but need to give Luo Deputy President - I see Kidero is trying to come up - and we have Babu.
To match GEMA - Sakaja need to get Luos - we get 30% each.
Then competition for next 20% - Kambas will decides - take you 45% plus Gusii for 5% =50% - for GEMA candidate
Sakaja will sweep the rest - because who will vote GAKUYA.
So we could end up with as always 50:50.
Big problem DCP has no good candidate - Gakuya ni BURE, Irungu ni Bure.
So the good candidates with acceptability now will be Sakaja & Babu.
Likely this will go to the final whistle - again it will depend on Gachagua, Uhuru,Raila, Kalonzo and Ruto - how they play will affect Nairobi
Sakaja + Babu versus Gakuya + colourless Kamba leader.
Sakaja must make sure Babu doesnt spoil for him - get him to be deputy - then 2032 Babu can run for governor.
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I think RiggyG can stamp his fist - and give Gakuyu senator. I don't see why DCP governor must be kikuyu. They can field any credible, loyal candidate even Kamba.
I don't see Uhuru as a big player but I guess we will see about that. If as PORK he delivered 12% to Raila in Mlima. Igathe numbers were ODM and Wiper.
2009 Census.
Kikuyu 29% of Nairobi - Gema combined should be 33%.
Luos and Kambas 17% each
Luhyas 15%.
Now 20yrs later - I expect Kikuyus be 25% - GEMA 30% of Nairobi; Kambas & Luos & Luhyas 15% each;
Somalis, Gusii, Kalenjin, etc - 5%.
Sakaja has managed to handle Luhya Tim - gone to Bungoma.
He has Raila for Luo - but need to give Luo Deputy President - I see Kidero is trying to come up - and we have Babu.
To match GEMA - Sakaja need to get Luos - we get 30% each.
Then competition for next 20% - Kambas will decides - take you 45% plus Gusii for 5% =50% - for GEMA candidate
Sakaja will sweep the rest - because who will vote GAKUYA.
So we could end up with as always 50:50.
Big problem DCP has no good candidate - Gakuya ni BURE, Irungu ni Bure.
So the good candidates with acceptability now will be Sakaja & Babu.
Likely this will go to the final whistle - again it will depend on Gachagua, Uhuru,Raila, Kalonzo and Ruto - how they play will affect Nairobi
Sakaja + Babu versus Gakuya + colourless Kamba leader.
Sakaja must make sure Babu doesnt spoil for him - get him to be deputy - then 2032 Babu can run for governor.
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Githunguri was with I in Azimio. With Nowayhaha they now believe after RiggyG's impeachment trust in Kenyan politics is permanently gone. As usual your own position is unknown.
Wacha hiyo ethnic trend. Gen Zs want to move Kenya forward and then you come up with your silly ethnic calculations. It seems all you want is a Gema govornor of Nairobi. Gema has had more than 34 years to lead the country. Where are we today? Without Gema votes Kasongo would not be leading Kenya to disaster today. First apologise to the country for being cheated by peeople like Gachagua.
In Nairobi GEMA has over 600k votes.Currently has about 40 elected MCAs.50% of County assembly.
He should leave Nairobi politics to GAKUYA.Gakuya should Map out 40 loyal MCAs who should have a group of 100 Supporters each.When having political events they should be mobilized and given transport.
No way goons can repel group of 4000 people.If they throw stones,They stop the nonsense.
Otherwise,Sidelining GAKUYA and allowing Malala idiocy and Babu Owino nonsense is PURE STUPID.
Gachagua is very disorganised and indecisive.
Kumbaff.
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Githunguri was with I in Azimio. With Nowayhaha they now believe after RiggyG's impeachment trust in Kenyan politics is permanently gone. As usual your own position is unknown.
Wacha hiyo ethnic trend. Gen Zs want to move Kenya forward and then you come up with your silly ethnic calculations. It seems all you want is a Gema govornor of Nairobi. Gema has had more than 34 years to lead the country. Where are we today? Without Gema votes Kasongo would not be leading Kenya to disaster today. First apologise to the country for being cheated by peeople like Gachagua.
In Nairobi GEMA has over 600k votes.Currently has about 40 elected MCAs.50% of County assembly.
He should leave Nairobi politics to GAKUYA.Gakuya should Map out 40 loyal MCAs who should have a group of 100 Supporters each.When having political events they should be mobilized and given transport.
No way goons can repel group of 4000 people.If they throw stones,They stop the nonsense.
Otherwise,Sidelining GAKUYA and allowing Malala idiocy and Babu Owino nonsense is PURE STUPID.
Gachagua is very disorganised and indecisive.
Kumbaff.
I was in Azimio because I knew what Ruto would do to GEMA after elections.You just need to know about a person's history to know what he will do or become in future and the results are now public.
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RIGGY G.
DON'T DO IT!!DON'T!!
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I was in Azimio because I knew what Ruto would do to GEMA after elections.You just need to know about a person's history to know what he will do or become in future and the results are now public.
RIGGY G.
DON'T DO IT!!DON'T!!
Fool. Governor for Luo vote is a good deal.
Being insular is silly. RiggyG will make big deals everywhere.
RiggyG is antithetical to Uhuru or Kibaki insular politics.
His ability to scale past Mt Kenya - to makuzo :) - is a very good trait.
He is like Ruto and Raila.
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I was in Azimio because I knew what Ruto would do to GEMA after elections.You just need to know about a person's history to know what he will do or become in future and the results are now public.
RIGGY G.
DON'T DO IT!!DON'T!!
Fool. Governor for Luo vote is a good deal.
Being insular is silly. RiggyG will make big deals everywhere.
RiggyG is antithetical to Uhuru or Kibaki insular politics.
His ability to scale past Mt Kenya - to makuzo :) - is a very good trait.
He is like Ruto and Raila.
UMBWA MALAYA WEWE.
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I was in Azimio because I knew what Ruto would do to GEMA after elections.You just need to know about a person's history to know what he will do or become in future and the results are now public.
RIGGY G.
DON'T DO IT!!DON'T!!
Fool. Governor for Luo vote is a good deal.
Being insular is silly. RiggyG will make big deals everywhere.
RiggyG is antithetical to Uhuru or Kibaki insular politics.
His ability to scale past Mt Kenya - to makuzo :) - is a very good trait.
He is like Ruto and Raila.
UMBWA MALAYA WEWE.
:) Pee brain,
You have been mumbling incoherently - RiggyG do this, don't do that.
But he continues to do exactly what you urge against.
Gakuya will go back to Kariobangi & Dandora MP.
Wacha hizo tantrums, Riggy is scaling national, not just Kikuyu.
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Githunguri FOOL,
here is Riggy wooing Kenya Moja despite your whining.
Gachagua urges Sifuna and Babu Owino to join DCP
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-12-03-come-to-dcp-gachagua-tells-sifuna-and-babu
Opposition rolls out a red carpet for ODM rebels
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/opposition-rolls-out-a-red-carpet-for-odm-rebels--5358934
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Did you not learn from what Sakaja did to our people?
You are supporting a goon to be getting 20MN per day to launch 2032 Presidential bid and later call Gachagua mtoto wa Umbwa like it did in 2017 or go shooting people like it did to DJ Evolve?
ARE YOU STUPID?
HUNA AKILI WEWE?
JINGA KABISA GHASIA.
I wish in any arrangement we would make Matiangi Nairobi governor or someone else but supporting Babu or Sifuna is STUPID PLAIN STUPID.
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Githunguri FOOL,
here is Riggy wooing Kenya Moja despite your whining.
Gachagua urges Sifuna and Babu Owino to join DCP
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-12-03-come-to-dcp-gachagua-tells-sifuna-and-babu
Opposition rolls out a red carpet for ODM rebels
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/opposition-rolls-out-a-red-carpet-for-odm-rebels--5358934
RiggyG is a fool.Thats why he supported ruto.Thats why we are having Jubilee/PNU splinter group to check his stupidity.
How can RiggyG support Babu who never defended his impeachment?
Did babu support DCP kariobangi candidate in November?
We jinga kama mamako
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Did you not learn from what Sakaja did to our people?
You are supporting a goon to be getting 20MN per day to launch 2032 Presidential bid and later call Gachagua mtoto wa Umbwa like it did in 2017 or go shooting people like it did to DJ Evolve?
ARE YOU STUPID?
HUNA AKILI WEWE?
JINGA KABISA GHASIA.
I wish in any arrangement we would make Matiangi Nairobi governor or someone else but supporting Babu or Sifuna is STUPID PLAIN STUPID.
You are an insular moron - which is the hallmark of a pee brain,
That is how Kibaki ended up with civil war and NUSU MKATE - despite incumbency.
The opposition lineup is likely to be Kalonzo-Matiang'i-Gachagua - which is worth NOTHING if they lose to Ruto.
So it is simple math: Nairobi governor vs piece of PORK. It is a no-brainer.
Babu has a simple job: deliver 70% or more of Luo - and get governor.
Huo ujinga wako - what stopped Igathe from winning with 40% Gema?
Boss si una akili ndogo. I am disappointed.
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Enough said..lets move on to other business.
Nowhere in the Kenya constitution is it written that Gachagua must support Owino.He won't know what hit him.
Oburu will join the opposition early next year,In that arrangement The odingas and Gachagua/Kalonzo/Matiangi axis will agree on one things..TO DENY Babu Owino Nairobi ticket.He will be find himself in the wilderness.
Sifuna doesn't want him because he also wants to run for presidency.Same as Winnie,He poses a threat.And Methu Ndindi also don't want him as a competitor in future.
All cards put to the table,Babu owino the best he can become is National assembly Majority leader or Kisumu governor any other thing costs his political career.
But you know,politcs is a game of thugs,we cant interrupt he helps us detsroy Ruto for the moment.
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Sawa we shall see soon,. as 2027 approaches.
For me:
Senile Oburu and Wangas will die with Ruto - if they don't kick out Babu anti-Ruto group - ODM will retain most seats in Luo Nyanza.
But if they evict Sifuna, Babu and others - they will lose most seats in Luo Nyanza, Nairobi, etc. - including Wanga seat to Aroko.
Oburu may be embarassed like MaDVD in Sabatia 2002. But more likely to retain his seat but deliver a meagre 20% Luo to Ruto.
Babu will get Nairobi governor whether as ODM or Wiper.
And his camp will support Kalonzo even if they are in ODM. That is the price.
Gachagua will stand down Gakuya like he did Kibui in Mbeere.
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Sawa we shall see soon,. as 2027 approaches.
For me:
Senile Oburu and Wangas will die with Ruto -
To gain what?
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Babu will get Nairobi governor whether as ODM or Wiper.
From what tribe?
Kikuyu/kamba 45%
Luhya/luo/kisii/somali-55%
Now assume kikuyu kamba and 50% kisii 20% luhya vote Gakuya.
The rest split votes between Sakaja and Babu owino,How does Babu owino become governor?
THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED IN KARIOBANGI NORTH BY-ELECTION IN NOVEMBER 27TH.
DCP Number 1
ODM Number 2
UDA Number4.
AVOID SENSATIONAL POLITICS.
IF GEMA supports Kalonzo and signs pact with Matiangi Kisii and Luhyas-Gakuya becomes governor.
BUT YOU ARE A FOOOOOOOOOL....You don't get what am saying.
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Babu will get Nairobi governor whether as ODM or Wiper.
From what tribe?
From Luo, Kikuyu and Kamba.
Kikuyu in Nairobi voted for 2 Kalenjins - Ruto and Sakaja. :)
They did what RiggyG told them - and will do the same next year.
Kamba as usual will follow Kalonzo.
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Hii ghasia apana elewa...let me take my flight.
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Sawa we shall see soon,. as 2027 approaches.
For me:
Senile Oburu and Wangas will die with Ruto -
To gain what?
Whatever Raila was gaining since Handshake 2.0 in 2024.
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Sawa we shall see soon,. as 2027 approaches.
For me:
Senile Oburu and Wangas will die with Ruto -
To gain what?
Whatever Raila was gaining since Handshake 2.0 in 2024.
You need MPs Senators N Governors (millions of votes) tp gain that.Does loosing western nairobi and mombasa kisii luhya kamba and pockets of luhya guarantee him that?
WHY ARE YOU STUPID?
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Sawa we shall see soon,. as 2027 approaches.
For me:
Senile Oburu and Wangas will die with Ruto -
To gain what?
Whatever Raila was gaining since Handshake 2.0 in 2024.
You need MPs Senators N Governors (millions of votes) tp gain that.Does loosing western nairobi and mombasa kisii luhya kamba and pockets of luhya guarantee him that?
WHY ARE YOU STUPID?
Oburu is stupid - am not Oburu.
Ruto fired Gachagua - is Ruto stupid?
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Babu will get Nairobi governor whether as ODM or Wiper.
From what tribe?
From Luo, Kikuyu and Kamba.
Kikuyu in Nairobi voted for 2 Kalenjins - Ruto and Sakaja. :)
They did what RiggyG told them - and will do the same next year.
Kamba as usual will follow Kalonzo.
Precisely.
And once you defeat Ruto,Make babu owino governor,
We shall have a luo kalenjin luhya allliance of babu owino sifuna and murkomen (i dont know who becomes the next kalenjin leader)
I mean you make babu owino a governor with 20MN cash income and a huge political network of kalenjin warriors.
HOW STUPID COULD YOU BE?
HOW STUPID ARE YOU?
Governor should be Kikuyu with kamba deputy.
GEMA & Kamba need to have a strong alliance moving foward just like luhya luo alliance.
As GEMA/KAMBA we should have one candidate through negotiated democracy who negotiates with the rest of kenya due to changing demographics.
We share alot in common and are neighbours.We just parted ways 500 years ago.
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Babu will get Nairobi governor whether as ODM or Wiper.
From what tribe?
From Luo, Kikuyu and Kamba.
Kikuyu in Nairobi voted for 2 Kalenjins - Ruto and Sakaja. :)
They did what RiggyG told them - and will do the same next year.
Kamba as usual will follow Kalonzo.
Precisely.
And once you defeat Ruto,Make babu owino governor,
We shall have a luo kalenjin luhya allliance of babu owino sifuna and murkomen (i dont know who becomes the next kalenjin leader)
I mean you make babu owino a governor with 20MN cash income and a huge political network of kalenjin warriors.
HOW STUPID COULD YOU BE?
HOW STUPID ARE YOU?
Governor should be Kikuyu with kamba deputy.
GEMA & Kamba need to have a strong alliance moving foward just like luhya luo alliance.
As GEMA/KAMBA we should have one candidate through negotiated democracy who negotiates with the rest of kenya due to changing demographics.
We share alot in common and are neighbours.We just parted ways 500 years ago.
i don't get your tantrums at me - it is RiggyG and Kalonzo who have invited Babu and Sifuna - not Robina :)
RiggyG is aiming at cabinet - if that takes Babu as governor to get Luo votes - it will be done.
if Riggy listened to a fool like you - Ruto would be running 41 vs 1 - which Riggy beat using makuzo chess move.