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Title: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on August 12, 2025, 08:30:40 AM
Quite good coverage
Should be medium test
Esp on Ruto's KK
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 12, 2025, 04:01:26 PM
Clickbait
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: patel on August 13, 2025, 01:38:48 AM
We need recalls campaign. IeBc should stop hiding behind non sense. People need to put pressure so we can witness peoples power in action.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on August 13, 2025, 01:58:29 AM
I think as long as Raila said he will be in Government until Mid 2027, opposition will always be in disarray. If in 2027 he decided to throw his hat in the ring, whatever united opposition has put forward will go in flames. In the meantime if Raila stay behind for 2027, Ruto will have implemnted 100% of his plan. He now has about solid 5-6 million loyal voters in contact. He will only need to look for few votes by putting final touches on his manifesto as he unload a much bigger and effective tutam plan!
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 14, 2025, 09:01:44 PM
I think as long as Raila said he will be in Government until Mid 2027, opposition will always be in disarray. If in 2027 he decided to throw his hat in the ring, whatever united opposition has put forward will go in flames. In the meantime if Raila stay behind for 2027, Ruto will have implemnted 100% of his plan. He now has about solid 5-6 million loyal voters in contact. He will only need to look for few votes by putting final touches on his manifesto as he unload a much bigger and effective tutam plan!

The longer Raila sticks to Blood-Based the more ODM wears out as we already see in Western. There is in fact very little synergy between ODM and UDA/KK - besides looting - because they have a common base and are natural foes. Outside Luo and Kalenjin every other swing region is shared. The battle will be more vicious in Blood-Based than between Blood-Based and Team RiggyG.

In 3-horse race Team RiggyG has the easiest path to victory.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 14, 2025, 09:06:33 PM
Here is Uhuru spanner boy Kioni praising RiggyG leadership

Rigathi Gachagua cuts short US trip, returns for by-election campaigns
Thursday, August 14, 2025

Quote
Former President Uhuru Kenyatta's Jubilee Party Secretary General Jeremiah Kioni recently acknowledged Gachagua's impact. "It is true that Gachagua appears to be the only man who can batter President Ruto with clarity and efficiency. He is a very important player in the 'Wantam' cause and we appreciate him."

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/rigathi-gachagua-cuts-short-us-trip-returns-for-by-election-campaigns-5155184
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 14, 2025, 09:09:51 PM
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Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on August 18, 2025, 12:17:11 PM
DCP unlikely to win anything outside mbeere
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 18, 2025, 01:28:07 PM
DCP unlikely to win anything outside mbeere

Well this's a rather early surrender.  :)

Byelections are a litmus test for both oppposition and Blood-Based cohesion. Apart from Kasipul, Ugunja and Baringo senator.

Mbeere (Embu) - DCP vs JB Muturi DP vs Munya PNU vs Mbus. No big problem for KK here.
Malava (Kakamega) - problem for both camps: DCP vs DAP. UDA vs ODM
Banisa (Mandera) - UDA vs ODM. Maybe small problem for DCP vs Jubilee
Magarini (Kwale) - UDA vs ODM

UDA vs ODM zoning might hint to us Raila plans. Obviously ODM can't give UDA space in Western or Coast or NEP if they want to maintain dominance there. This will prove my point - UDA vs ODM non-Gema turf wars. Will desperate Ruto bend over backwards?

Malava will tell us how many Luhya have dumped ODM and Blood-Based.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on August 23, 2025, 05:38:53 PM
9 out 12 in Mbeere want to run on UDA
https://www.kbc.co.ke/uda-holds-strategic-retreat-with-9-aspirants-eyeing-mbeere-north-seat/
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 25, 2025, 03:11:40 AM
9 out 12 in Mbeere want to run on UDA
https://www.kbc.co.ke/uda-holds-strategic-retreat-with-9-aspirants-eyeing-mbeere-north-seat/

BIG warchest duhh
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2025, 09:08:47 AM
Mbeere..
DCP has MCA candidate;
BUs party by Lenny Kivuitu has MCA muscian Karis Netwon.
We wait for UDA candidate.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 25, 2025, 09:14:32 AM
Mbeere..
DCP has MCA candidate;
BUs party by Lenny Kivuitu has MCA muscian Karis Netwon.
We wait for UDA candidate.

Muturi DP seems to have the popular candidate.
I imagine the MCAs will resign before handing papers to IEBC.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2025, 08:58:25 PM
You only resign if you win.
We have BUS, DP, DCP and UDA confirmed running.
We dont know of Jubilee and other parties.
Mt kenya is going to be messy - in next election
Mbeere..
DCP has MCA candidate;
BUs party by Lenny Kivuitu has MCA muscian Karis Netwon.
We wait for UDA candidate.

Muturi DP seems to have the popular candidate.
I imagine the MCAs will resign before handing papers to IEBC.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 26, 2025, 04:33:50 AM
Yea but the contest is UDA vs DCP. The rest are spoilers.

You only resign if you win.
We have BUS, DP, DCP and UDA confirmed running.
We dont know of Jubilee and other parties.
Mt kenya is going to be messy - in next election
Mbeere..
DCP has MCA candidate;
BUs party by Lenny Kivuitu has MCA muscian Karis Netwon.
We wait for UDA candidate.

Muturi DP seems to have the popular candidate.
I imagine the MCAs will resign before handing papers to IEBC.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 07, 2025, 09:52:43 PM
Look like Opposition and Blood-Based zoning.

Blood-Based easily retains Kasipul, Ugunja, Baringo.
Banisa - likely UDA after buying out UDM.
Magarini - ODM
Mbeere - DP
Malava - UDA

6 out of 7 optics will be good for Blood-Based.

But obviously the real war is Mlima - so heavy loss in Mbeere will be bad strategically. Still with DCP tactical retreat Soprano likely to survive (not get fired) despite even heavy loss.

Second battleline is Malava. A loss or narrow win for Blood-Based in Malava will equally be bad. I get the sense if it was Trans Nzoia Bukusu area - DAP-K would drab UDA and Ford-K. Natembeya seem to be bad news.

Expect brutal duels in Mbeere and Malava.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 07, 2025, 09:53:15 PM
Not sure if fat Matiang'i will deliver few MCAs in Nyamira. If he has working grey cells.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on September 07, 2025, 10:02:14 PM
Not sure if fat Matiang'i will deliver few MCAs in Nyamira. If he has working grey cells.
Matiang'i is a severely wounded soldier. No party – he cannot criticise the government because of that big land case. He is partyless, and only tags along with the Kenya Moja coalition, then goes back to UDA honchos and reports the secrets as he negotiates the case to be dropped!
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 07, 2025, 11:53:28 PM
Not sure if fat Matiang'i will deliver few MCAs in Nyamira. If he has working grey cells.
Matiang'i is a severely wounded soldier. No party – he cannot criticise the government because of that big land case. He is partyless, and only tags along with the Kenya Moja coalition, then goes back to UDA honchos and reports the secrets as he negotiates the case to be dropped!

Matiang'i speech destroying Kenya Kwanza in Yatta
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 07, 2025, 11:57:59 PM
Matiang'i has refused to board Jubilee and is tagging the joint opposition. RiggyG is dangling DPORK to excite Gusii - but likely to land interior CS.

He is certainly not ODM or Kenya Moja. His problem is party.. he is obviously an idiot.


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Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on September 09, 2025, 09:02:41 AM
Seem biggest battle will be In Mbeere and Malava - the rest will be friendly btw UDA and ODM
Mbeere - Former Muscian MCA Candidate Karis seem to be front runner.
Malava - Son of Malulu is favoured
https://www.tuko.co.ke/politics/601956-uda-preferred-party-malava-by-election-mizani-poll/
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 11, 2025, 09:41:30 PM
Seem biggest battle will be In Mbeere and Malava - the rest will be friendly btw UDA and ODM
Mbeere - Former Muscian MCA Candidate Karis seem to be front runner.
Malava - Son of Malulu is favoured
https://www.tuko.co.ke/politics/601956-uda-preferred-party-malava-by-election-mizani-poll/

Seems UDA-ODM are losing in Mbeere and Malava. Very bad for them.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on September 12, 2025, 05:04:57 AM
Campaign has not even started. UDA has most candidates in both Malava and Mbeere - and are just done with nomination negotiations.
Seems UDA-ODM are losing in Mbeere and Malava. Very bad for them.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 12, 2025, 09:30:59 PM
Farouk is already camping there - I think it's wrong optics.
UDA has no real crew in Kakamega they are all ODM. Which is weird scenario of campaigning for UDA.
Ruto has to rely on Farouk or uselss MaDVD and Rectangular.

Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 12, 2025, 09:31:57 PM
Natembeya will wipe the floor with Farouk and fat Messi


"Farouk... Tawe!
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on September 13, 2025, 09:57:07 AM
Look like we have united opposition versus UDA in Mbeere North - make things a little harder for Kindiki.
Malava - UDA + MaDVD+Weta united.
In both expect gov to pour money like never before.
Opposition if united like in Mbeere will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 13, 2025, 03:50:19 PM
Yea in Mbeere apart from Kuria CCK even Mbus backs DP Karish.

Malava it UDA vs DAP-K. DCP there is Malala nonsense not RiggyG. I thought he had some gravitas but seeing his Edgar Busiega at meagre 4%. Almost mkia. Malala need to withdraw not to embarass himself.

I don't see UDA doing well in either case. Objectively Ruto has done fair. But something about being GoK-backed cause big problems in Zamunda. It's a mzungu hangover of sirikali ni mbaya.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on September 14, 2025, 06:05:23 AM
Dont trust Mizani too much; They are likely Pro-opposition pollster
Yea in Mbeere apart from Kuria CCK even Mbus backs DP Karish.

Malava it UDA vs DAP-K. DCP there is Malala nonsense not RiggyG. I thought he had some gravitas but seeing his Edgar Busiega at meagre 4%. Almost mkia. Malala need to withdraw not to embarass himself.

I don't see UDA doing well in either case. Objectively Ruto has done fair. But something about being GoK-backed cause big problems in Zamunda. It's a mzungu hangover of sirikali ni mbaya.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 14, 2025, 01:20:14 PM
1. 2022 PORK: bull's eye
Mizani did better than Ipsos, TIFA, InfoTrak in 2022. They had Ruto beating Raila by <1% - better than you RV Pundit 👀 - while the rest had Raila winning by 2-5%. HIT

2: 2022 major downstream: nicked some top, missed others.
Nairobi governor they had Sakaja winning. Hit (TIFA also got it correct)
Nairobi senator they had Sifuna winning. Hit
Nairobi Women Rep they had Omanga beating Pasaris. Miss
Mombasa governor they had Nassir beating Omar. Hit (TIFA also got it correct)
Kirinyaga governor they had Ngirici beating Waiguru. Miss
Machakos they had Wavinya beating Muthama. Hit
Meru they had Kawira beating Linturi. Hit

3. Pre-2022 byelections
Kibra 2019 - Mizani had ODM Imran Okoth beating Jubilee McDee Mariga. Hit (TIFA also had it correct)
Msambweni 2020 - Mizani had ODM Omar Boga beating Ruto-backed independent Feisal Bader. Miss (TIFA also missed with bigger pro-ODM bias)
Matungu 2021 - Mizani had ODM David Were beating of ANC Oscar Nabulindo. Miss
Kabuchai 2021 - no Mizani data
Machakos 2021 - no Mizani data
Juja 2021 - no Mizani data
Kiambaa 2021 - Mizani had UDA Kawanjiku beating Jubilee Kariri Njama by 56 v 31%. "Hit"

4. BIAS:
Here our interest is the byelections since we are concerned with bias against Ruto the underdog.
Mizani missed Msambweni and Matungu. pro-ODM, anti-Ruto bias?
But Kiambaa was arguably the most critical byelection (akin to Mbeere today) - at least they got it correct with no anti-Ruto bias. Perhaps pro-Ruto bias? 56-31 dog beating

SUM: I see average competence and possible bias in Mizani. Obviosuly Ruto has more cash now to buy polls. Let us see if Ipsos, TIFA, InfoTrak come up with something in the 2 months window.


Dont trust Mizani too much; They are likely Pro-opposition pollster
Yea in Mbeere apart from Kuria CCK even Mbus backs DP Karish.

Malava it UDA vs DAP-K. DCP there is Malala nonsense not RiggyG. I thought he had some gravitas but seeing his Edgar Busiega at meagre 4%. Almost mkia. Malala need to withdraw not to embarass himself.

I don't see UDA doing well in either case. Objectively Ruto has done fair. But something about being GoK-backed cause big problems in Zamunda. It's a mzungu hangover of sirikali ni mbaya.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on September 14, 2025, 08:22:04 PM
Been following that handle on X - opposition/gachagua/kikuyu kind of leaning. But like you said they did well and we should not dismiss them; esp without any contrary evidence; My embu wife and people tell me in Embu Ruto is leaking. Maybe Mbeere is a little different.
1. 2022 PORK: bull's eye
Mizani did better than Ipsos, TIFA, InfoTrak in 2022. They had Ruto beating Raila by <1% - better than you RV Pundit 👀 - while the rest had Raila winning by 2-5%. HIT

2: 2022 major downstream: nicked some top, missed others.
Nairobi governor they had Sakaja winning. Hit (TIFA also got it correct)
Nairobi senator they had Sifuna winning. Hit
Nairobi Women Rep they had Omanga beating Pasaris. Miss
Mombasa governor they had Nassir beating Omar. Hit (TIFA also got it correct)
Kirinyaga governor they had Ngirici beating Waiguru. Miss
Machakos they had Wavinya beating Muthama. Hit
Meru they had Kawira beating Linturi. Hit

3. Pre-2022 byelections
Kibra 2019 - Mizani had ODM Imran Okoth beating Jubilee McDee Mariga. Hit (TIFA also had it correct)
Msambweni 2020 - Mizani had ODM Omar Boga beating Ruto-backed independent Feisal Bader. Miss (TIFA also missed with bigger pro-ODM bias)
Matungu 2021 - Mizani had ODM David Were beating of ANC Oscar Nabulindo. Miss
Kabuchai 2021 - no Mizani data
Machakos 2021 - no Mizani data
Juja 2021 - no Mizani data
Kiambaa 2021 - Mizani had UDA Kawanjiku beating Jubilee Kariri Njama by 56 v 31%. "Hit"

4. BIAS:
Here our interest is the byelections since we are concerned with bias against Ruto the underdog.
Mizani missed Msambweni and Matungu. pro-ODM, anti-Ruto bias?
But Kiambaa was arguably the most critical byelection (akin to Mbeere today) - at least they got it correct with no anti-Ruto bias. Perhaps pro-Ruto bias? 56-31 dog beating

SUM: I see average competence and possible bias in Mizani. Obviosuly Ruto has more cash now to buy polls. Let us see if Ipsos, TIFA, InfoTrak come up with something in the 2 months window.


Dont trust Mizani too much; They are likely Pro-opposition pollster
Yea in Mbeere apart from Kuria CCK even Mbus backs DP Karish.

Malava it UDA vs DAP-K. DCP there is Malala nonsense not RiggyG. I thought he had some gravitas but seeing his Edgar Busiega at meagre 4%. Almost mkia. Malala need to withdraw not to embarass himself.

I don't see UDA doing well in either case. Objectively Ruto has done fair. But something about being GoK-backed cause big problems in Zamunda. It's a mzungu hangover of sirikali ni mbaya.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 14, 2025, 10:05:30 PM
Meaning what?

Been following that handle on X - opposition/gachagua/kikuyu kind of leaning. But like you said they did well and we should not dismiss them; esp without any contrary evidence; My embu wife and people tell me in Embu Ruto is leaking. Maybe Mbeere is a little different.
1. 2022 PORK: bull's eye
Mizani did better than Ipsos, TIFA, InfoTrak in 2022. They had Ruto beating Raila by <1% - better than you RV Pundit 👀 - while the rest had Raila winning by 2-5%. HIT

2: 2022 major downstream: nicked some top, missed others.
Nairobi governor they had Sakaja winning. Hit (TIFA also got it correct)
Nairobi senator they had Sifuna winning. Hit
Nairobi Women Rep they had Omanga beating Pasaris. Miss
Mombasa governor they had Nassir beating Omar. Hit (TIFA also got it correct)
Kirinyaga governor they had Ngirici beating Waiguru. Miss
Machakos they had Wavinya beating Muthama. Hit
Meru they had Kawira beating Linturi. Hit

3. Pre-2022 byelections
Kibra 2019 - Mizani had ODM Imran Okoth beating Jubilee McDee Mariga. Hit (TIFA also had it correct)
Msambweni 2020 - Mizani had ODM Omar Boga beating Ruto-backed independent Feisal Bader. Miss (TIFA also missed with bigger pro-ODM bias)
Matungu 2021 - Mizani had ODM David Were beating of ANC Oscar Nabulindo. Miss
Kabuchai 2021 - no Mizani data
Machakos 2021 - no Mizani data
Juja 2021 - no Mizani data
Kiambaa 2021 - Mizani had UDA Kawanjiku beating Jubilee Kariri Njama by 56 v 31%. "Hit"

4. BIAS:
Here our interest is the byelections since we are concerned with bias against Ruto the underdog.
Mizani missed Msambweni and Matungu. pro-ODM, anti-Ruto bias?
But Kiambaa was arguably the most critical byelection (akin to Mbeere today) - at least they got it correct with no anti-Ruto bias. Perhaps pro-Ruto bias? 56-31 dog beating

SUM: I see average competence and possible bias in Mizani. Obviosuly Ruto has more cash now to buy polls. Let us see if Ipsos, TIFA, InfoTrak come up with something in the 2 months window.


Dont trust Mizani too much; They are likely Pro-opposition pollster
Yea in Mbeere apart from Kuria CCK even Mbus backs DP Karish.

Malava it UDA vs DAP-K. DCP there is Malala nonsense not RiggyG. I thought he had some gravitas but seeing his Edgar Busiega at meagre 4%. Almost mkia. Malala need to withdraw not to embarass himself.

I don't see UDA doing well in either case. Objectively Ruto has done fair. But something about being GoK-backed cause big problems in Zamunda. It's a mzungu hangover of sirikali ni mbaya.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: gout on September 14, 2025, 10:51:24 PM
I am not seeing money being poured ama bado?
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on September 14, 2025, 11:22:44 PM
Embu...proper..Ruto has very little support..as embus are very close to kirinyanga n Kikuyu of nyeri...so they don't like how Gachagua was impeached. Mbeere n Tharaka maybe is 50 50.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on September 21, 2025, 03:10:19 PM
UDA primaries - good numbers - Malava they managed 10K for nomination - Baringo 100K.

Banisa it look like DCP Gachagua candidate resigned.
Title: Re: Kenya 2025 medium term like election on 27th Nov by-elections
Post by: RV Pundit on September 21, 2025, 09:12:13 PM
Malava - Kakamega minority leader to fly the ticket
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-09-21-kakamega-minority-leader-wins-malava-uda-ticket