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Title: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 07, 2025, 10:30:33 AM
Happening at KICC.

I guess that takes care of btw now and 2027.

Will Raila pull a 2002 in 2027 or will they cement the relationship to full merger with Gladys Wanga replacing Kindiki in 2027.

We shall see.

Definitely Wamunyoro, Uhuru and gangs just became more useless.

Raila is the prize. The King or Kingmaker. Mt kenya I hope know they cant fight both Ruto and Raila
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Kadudu on March 07, 2025, 10:34:47 AM
Huko Raila will go alone. ODM will just be a party restricted to Bondo.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Githunguri on March 07, 2025, 10:48:53 AM
Why are they uniting?

For what reason?What purpose?
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 07, 2025, 11:17:37 AM
Cope.
Apart from Gusii.
The rest had already gone ahead of Raila and joined gov.
Opposition sio rahisi
Unless you're in germany earning your Euros pole pole.
NJaa kenya ni ngumu
Huko Raila will go alone. ODM will just be a party restricted to Bondo.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 07, 2025, 11:17:59 AM
Against Kikuyu entitlement. Ruto is giving ODM  - Wamunyoro 50% share of gov.
Why are they uniting?

For what reason?What purpose?
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 07, 2025, 01:06:11 PM
Going on Live
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on March 07, 2025, 02:12:52 PM
We all know how to run the politics and government successfully and win the minds of 80%+ Kenyans. In Kenya, eliminating corruption, enhancing the rule of law, creating equity, and bringing prosperity is not easy because local and international cartels constantly remain a force within the government. Additionally, these cartels are assisted in holding the grip on government because of misinformed tribal Kenyans that want instant results and 'mtu wetu' without putting in the hardwork. If the majority of Kenyan politicians or public employees, and for that matter every Kenyan, had the work ethics, patriotism, and decency of President Ruto, Kenya would be ahead in just two years. Extremely proud of what Ruto has achieved, having been left with only 11 million shillings at the start of his presidency (according to Wamunyoro-waliiba mpaka rats hata wameaama) to a point where Kenya now has billions of dollars. Private equity is now flowing to Kenya, and I hope this partnership will strengthen the government and crush the cartel and good-for-nothing Kenyans that want disunity and constant chaos over good governance.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nefertiti on March 07, 2025, 09:31:11 PM
So will there be another reshuffle? I mean Mt Kenya are still in many posts - Kindiki, Kabogo, Kuria, etc. Otherwise I think Raila is selling out for cheap as usual. Without a clean 50-50 it would be better to take Riggy offer to be 2027 front against Ruto.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nefertiti on March 07, 2025, 09:31:48 PM
Seems Sifuna-Babu rebels have been tamed? Sakaja must be very happy.

Did people like Simba Arati attend?
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Fairandbalanced on March 07, 2025, 11:54:41 PM
Nothing to to see here, majority of Kenyans except some Luos and Kales just shrugged their shoulders and went on with their business. People forget that Kikuyus were out of government for 24yrs and weathered it, the only people here celebrating are those fueled by jealousy and kikuyu hatred. I know from tomorrow, they will start going around on top of vehicles campaigning, two mediocre man, Raila has never achieved anything except his stomach using Luo vote as bargaining power. Ruto has proved to be a mediocre thieve with zero vision for the country. Those who are celebrating here or in Kenya will go to their beds knowing that this will amount to nothing other than enriching Ruto and his friends while leaving the country mired in mediocrity. It’s just another wasted opportunity. I would advice Mt Kenya, Kamba, Kisii, urbanites, GenZ and millennials to intensify the fight and organizing but generally do what we are doing here with MAGA, ignore most of their shenanigans and do not let them trigger you with gaslighting. I personally think if we have to go tribal, the next president will come from either Kisii or Kamba.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Fairandbalanced on March 08, 2025, 06:46:10 AM
Obviously I had to go online to see the reactions. While online reaction is not ground, it’s hard to find anything positive and this is across tribal lines. I think Kenyans are tired of this script, what did Raila bring to previous governments?  The answer is nothing to Kenyans except enriching his family and cronies. The change Kenyans want will come whether they like it or not, Ruto cannot stop it. It’s an idea, young Kenyans want governance, accountability, jobs etc and not people on top of vehicles campaigning everyday. Kenyans and especially the young ones can with a click or touch see what their compatriots are enjoying all over the world where the rule of law is observed, it’s order, jobs, clean cities, cars etc and not a few primitive idiots stealing all the countries wealth. Ruto comes from the old school Kenya, the new ideas and vision cannot penetrate his thick skull, do not worry about Raila, time will eventually run out on him and it’s actually not far off. I think Raila by joining Ruto did Kenyans a great favor, we did not want to be ruled by an 84yrs old fossil. Ruto. Comes from the school of thought where you prove your superiority by how much wealth you have except all his wealth is stolen and has caused a lot of problems to Kenyans. It may not be in the near future but Kenyans will one day come for their money from these politicians, it’s a guaranteed outcome… https://x.com/nelsonhavi/status/1897981056009023670?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on March 08, 2025, 01:26:57 PM
Ruto ni fala, he gains nothing Baba as usual come 2027 will go for the top seat leaving Ruto with 60 to 70 percent kalenjin amere 1.5 Million votes
Kipsigis hate ruto and nandis already they dont want to inter marry, moi crafted a useless community.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: gout on March 08, 2025, 02:40:09 PM
Baba and Ruto speeches show Ruto is a fool under pressure with no pathway ahead.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: gout on March 08, 2025, 02:55:30 PM
The overrated genius who eats their cake and deludes they still have it is under sieke.
Kimani Ichungwa and Kindiki are still undertakers of the rigor mortis.

He has kicked his 'closest ally' Ndindi Nyoro pon the balls.
The remaining is Alice Wahome who stood by him to be replaced by his lynchpin Junet. Total madness in name of genius.

So will there be another reshuffle? I mean Mt Kenya are still in many posts - Kindiki, Kabogo, Kuria, etc. Otherwise I think Raila is selling out for cheap as usual. Without a clean 50-50 it would be better to take Riggy offer to be 2027 front against Ruto.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: patel on March 08, 2025, 04:39:02 PM
So will there be another reshuffle? I mean Mt Kenya are still in many posts - Kindiki, Kabogo, Kuria, etc. Otherwise I think Raila is selling out for cheap as usual. Without a clean 50-50 it would be better to take Riggy offer to be 2027 front against Ruto.
This signals the end of Kenya kwanza regime. We are now entering Nusu mkate era. Raila and his forty thieves must demand pound of flesh. Gema CS and PS must make way for sibuor team.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Fairandbalanced on March 09, 2025, 12:56:37 AM
I heard someone say that Luhyas are really angry at this deal, Mudavadi and Watengula thought they outsmarted Raila but he has now eclipsed both of them. This proves Natembeya right on Ruto and gives him even a bigger profile in Luhyaland. There is no way anyone can win the presidency if Kenya without Mt Kenya, Kamba, Kisii, Gen Z and half of Luhyas, it’s not going to happen and even Ruto knows it and therefore the funeral atmosphere yesterday. They can rig and burn the country or divide the opposition or they are both cooked. Kalonzo, this is free advice to you, it’s time to play for keeps, no backing down. I think Kenyans will embrace someone like Kalonzo as a transitional leader.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on March 09, 2025, 05:08:19 AM
I heard someone say that Luhyas are really angry at this deal, Mudavadi and Watengula thought they outsmarted Raila but he has now eclipsed both of them. This proves Natembeya right on Ruto and gives him even a bigger profile in Luhyaland. There is no way anyone can win the presidency if Kenya without Mt Kenya, Kamba, Kisii, Gen Z and half of Luhyas, it’s not going to happen and even Ruto knows it and therefore the funeral atmosphere yesterday. They can rig and burn the country or divide the opposition or they are both cooked. Kalonzo, this is free advice to you, it’s time to play for keeps, no backing down. I think Kenyans will embrace someone like Kalonzo as a transitional leader.
Kenya's political matrix cannot allow a corrupt fool and a broke coward like Kalonzo to win the presidency in Kenya.  Winning Kenya's presidency is still largely driven by 4 important KEYS (having colossal cash, lining up the Supreme Court and IEBC, and tribal arithmetic). You need at least 3 to have a shot, and Kalooser, unfortunately, has none of the Keys at the moment. On the Luhyas, there cohesive forces are not strong because Wetangula has a tight grip on Bukusus, who are the Majority. Teso and other Busia area Luhyas are culturally aligned with Luos, and that is why they have consistently backed Raila election after election since the early 90s. In Vihiga and Maragoli Luhyas, they are not avid followers of their leader (Mudavadi), but those who do, which are about 40-55% of Maragolis, are with him Kufa na Kupona!. The rest are like windsocks and will follow Atwolis, Oparanyas, and other regional mini Kingpins. I think the president will try to accommodate all tribes equally the way he is doing now.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 09, 2025, 05:30:15 AM
I heard someone say that Luhyas are really angry at this deal, Mudavadi and Watengula thought they outsmarted Raila but he has now eclipsed both of them. This proves Natembeya right on Ruto and gives him even a bigger profile in Luhyaland. There is no way anyone can win the presidency if Kenya without Mt Kenya, Kamba, Kisii, Gen Z and half of Luhyas, it’s not going to happen and even Ruto knows it and therefore the funeral atmosphere yesterday. They can rig and burn the country or divide the opposition or they are both cooked. Kalonzo, this is free advice to you, it’s time to play for keeps, no backing down. I think Kenyans will embrace someone like Kalonzo as a transitional leader.
Kenya's political matrix cannot allow a corrupt fool and a broke coward like Kalonzo to win the presidency in Kenya.  Winning Kenya's presidency is still largely driven by 4 important KEYS (having colossal cash, lining up the Supreme Court and IEBC, and tribal arithmetic). You need at least 3 to have a shot, and Kalooser, unfortunately, has none of the Keys at the moment. On the Luhyas, there cohesive forces are not strong because Wetangula has a tight grip on Bukusus, who are the Majority. Teso and other Busia area Luhyas are culturally aligned with Luos, and that is why they have consistently backed Raila election after election since the early 90s. In Vihiga and Maragoli Luhyas, they are not avid followers of their leader (Mudavadi), but those who do, which are about 40-55% of Maragolis, are with him Kufa na Kupona!. The rest are like windsocks and will follow Atwolis, Oparanyas, and other regional mini Kingpins. I think the president will try to accommodate all tribes equally the way he is doing now.
I wish you could frame this for the many morons here. Ruto is really struggling only amongst section of Mt Kenya,kambas n maybe Gusii. The rest of country he has huge play.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 09, 2025, 05:31:20 AM
I believe kalonzo will join gov before end of the year. He knows kikiyus don't want him to head any opposition ticket
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on March 09, 2025, 05:42:19 AM
I believe kalonzo will join gov before end of the year. He knows kikiyus don't want him to head any opposition ticket
I think GEMA sees an opening for the presidency, and because of their numbers, they cannot allow Kalonzo or non-Kikuyu to take the top position. They'd rather give it to Wanjigi, Muhoho, or someone new. If Non-GEMA becomes the torchbearer of opposition, you can expect almost 20-35% to stick with Ruto, courtesy of all the networks he has cultivated over the years. If GEMA gets the top job, Ruto will have an easier time outside Mountain.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nefertiti on March 09, 2025, 10:16:20 AM
I believe kalonzo will join gov before end of the year. He knows kikiyus don't want him to head any opposition ticket
I think GEMA sees an opening for the presidency, and because of their numbers, they cannot allow Kalonzo or non-Kikuyu to take the top position. They'd rather give it to Wanjigi, Muhoho, or someone new. If Non-GEMA becomes the torchbearer of opposition, you can expect almost 20-35% to stick with Ruto, courtesy of all the networks he has cultivated over the years. If GEMA gets the top job, Ruto will have an easier time outside Mountain.

Maybe. Obviously noone has appetite for Riggy-type. Thankfully he is barred. 

My own prediction, Riggy, Uhuru-et al will ensnare greedy Raila into a 2022 redux. Scorned Kalonzo will join Ruto.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Fairandbalanced on March 09, 2025, 10:38:50 AM
This is the first election in Kenya where we have the full participation of a highly educated enlightened demographic, I hate to tell you moron that the amount of money in your coffers or tribe will be secondary. The era of hiring helicopters and gas guzzlers to go lie to peasants is over. The biggest campaign will be online where most GenZs are, if the 15m organize and come out to vote, your tribal warlords will be going home by noon. The person who will be able to capture the imagination of this kids win. What is Ruto or Raila going to tell people? Haven’t they run out lies? Will Ruto be going to churches and lying to people? I agree with the people here saying that Ruto will not even be in the second round, you can convince yourself otherwise for temporary relief but the truth will eventually catch up. I also believe Raila will also be on the contest and and will most likely be second to whoever is supported by the opposition. How much money did GenZ require to have Ruto relinquish power to Raila?
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nefertiti on March 09, 2025, 12:33:00 PM
This is the first election in Kenya where we have the full participation of a highly educated enlightened demographic, I hate to tell you moron that the amount of money in your coffers or tribe will be secondary. The era of hiring helicopters and gas guzzlers to go lie to peasants is over. The biggest campaign will be online where most GenZs are, if the 15m organize and come out to vote, your tribal warlords will be going home by noon. The person who will be able to capture the imagination of this kids win. What is Ruto or Raila going to tell people? Haven’t they run out lies? Will Ruto be going to churches and lying to people? I agree with the people here saying that Ruto will not even be in the second round, you can convince yourself otherwise for temporary relief but the truth will eventually catch up. I also believe Raila will also be on the contest and and will most likely be second to whoever is supported by the opposition. How much money did GenZ require to have Ruto relinquish power to Raila?

Wishes and horses. Gen Z are not a new discovery - 3 years ago they were the bulk of Ruto's hustler nation and were going to teach the dynasties a lesson. Before that they were screaming tibim and tialala. 😐

What new vision is Morara Kebaso selling this time?
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nefertiti on March 09, 2025, 12:39:15 PM
F&B i don't buy your prescription of new political revolution for Zamunda. Politicians will always offer miracles to real and imaginary maladies. From Moi must go, to 41 vs 1, to digital vs analog,  bottom up abra cadabra... nothing new.

Seems Morara is your new Messiah?

Well, here we have MAGA to slay the China ogre sijui white genocide. 😢
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Fairandbalanced on March 09, 2025, 12:46:16 PM
I am just reading the beans, I have a very good record of making predictions here that come true. It’s a gift and I thank God for it, it helps me a lot even in my investments especially stocks. Kenya is ripe for change, do not underestimate their thirst for change. The last time I was there, I heard from everyone, not just Kikuyus or family, everywhere I went, people talked about change. They are tired of theft and mediocrity perpetuated by a few but it makes all look like complete idiots who cannot run a successful country, a white supremacy trope.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: patel on March 09, 2025, 03:19:25 PM
Gusii reject Raila. Raila must go! The ground has shifted. Old political gimmicks can no longer work. Economic pressure is unbearable. Something will have to give.
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 20, 2025, 04:53:56 PM
Raila get PSes
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Tactician on March 20, 2025, 05:29:03 PM
1) WSR plans to run on an ODM ticket once the merger is complete.

We are slow-marching into an ODM-UDA coalition.  But the clueless opposition is still waiting for Rao to abandon UDA. 

2) This new coalition is slowly shifting the narrative from economics to tribal math - building up an anti Mt Kenya momentum ready for 2027


3) As such, a Gachagua ticket (whether as Prez or running mate) is a sure bet win for wsr in 2027.   Problem for the opposition is that Gachagua's ego is bigger than Mt Kenya itself.  Guy will attempt.

4) Only a Matiang'i - Luhya ticket with Mt Kenya as PM can counter this.  This breaks the western Kenya coalition and rings in the Gen Z/governance votes



Raila get PSes
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 20, 2025, 06:08:15 PM

Ruto to Run On ODM ? Ruto plans to Inherit Raila supporters with or without Raila .
That Coalition is nothing different that UhuRaila coalition it didnt go anywhere worse is Western and Kisiis have abandoned it
No one is buying Tribal narrative when they are hungry and Jobless , Heard of GenZ or you think it was a Myth.
I never for once supported Gachagua but I can tell you if they dont change the constitution, wherever Mt Kenya will be that will be the winning Coalition .
Ruto Raila coalition has awakened the Kisiis they have been divided because some hate Raila and Some hate Ruto for once they are united by the hate of both Ruto and Raila . Matiangi is a non factor and hates Ruto with passion . He als doesnt have the machinery to run an election.
Ruto and in extension Raila lost their legitimacy when Genz stormed parliament . Something which tribalist like you cannot fathom .
Ruto had to get Military to survive in the shorterm and Raila to finish his term .Both will be shown the door come 2027…..

1) WSR plans to run on an ODM ticket once the merger is complete.

We are slow-marching into an ODM-UDA coalition.  But the clueless opposition is still waiting for Rao to abandon UDA. 

2) This new coalition is slowly shifting the narrative from economics to tribal math - building up an anti Mt Kenya momentum ready for 2027


3) As such, a Gachagua ticket (whether as Prez or running mate) is a sure bet win for wsr in 2027.   Problem for the opposition is that Gachagua's ego is bigger than Mt Kenya itself.  Guy will attempt.

4) Only a Matiang'i - Luhya ticket with Mt Kenya as PM can counter this.  This breaks the western Kenya coalition and rings in the Gen Z/governance votes



Raila get PSes
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 20, 2025, 06:24:02 PM
1) WSR has to have PLAN A - which is win - with or without ODM. ODM should be Plan B. Plan A is UDA with any coalition (Kalonzo 10% is good enough).

2) Gachagua I doubt will beat  impeachment - so he can only become "prime minister" in any arrangement - Mt Kenya will have to contend with Uhuru/Muhoho - and Merus & Embu - may well go with Kindiki - if he is retain as DP and they see 2032 as their chance.

Raila & ODM coming to UDA has woken up Mt Kenya east on possibility of the thing going if they are not careful.

3) Matiangi (5%) - cannot lead anything - Luhyas getting DPORK will not unite them - coz hapo you're playing 2037. Then you have little matter of losing Kambas in such arrangement to Ruto.

The way I see we have 3 Big camps.
Ruto at 35%
Raila at 35%
Kikuyu (Headless) at 20%

Ruto-Raila makes election a waste of time.
If Ruto loses Raila - he will need Kalonzo.

Raila will only run if Mt kenya backs him

1) WSR plans to run on an ODM ticket once the merger is complete.

We are slow-marching into an ODM-UDA coalition.  But the clueless opposition is still waiting for Rao to abandon UDA. 

2) This new coalition is slowly shifting the narrative from economics to tribal math - building up an anti Mt Kenya momentum ready for 2027


3) As such, a Gachagua ticket (whether as Prez or running mate) is a sure bet win for wsr in 2027.   Problem for the opposition is that Gachagua's ego is bigger than Mt Kenya itself.  Guy will attempt.

4) Only a Matiang'i - Luhya ticket with Mt Kenya as PM can counter this.  This breaks the western Kenya coalition and rings in the Gen Z/governance votes



Raila get PSes
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 20, 2025, 09:43:38 PM


Ruto will be No 3 ,Even SG for ODM clearly said even if Raila supports Ruto still Ruto will lose .
You people are delusional and playing self deceit . So desperate is Ruto that he is giving Raila half government without a Coalition agreement but a mere MOU .
First thing in the MOU sends him into a referendum which is a trap and if he tries to circumnavigate and use parliament another revolution and unlike Genzs one this one will go into the history of Kenya as a moment where Kenya was finally liberated .

1) WSR has to have PLAN A - which is win - with or without ODM. ODM should be Plan B. Plan A is UDA with any coalition (Kalonzo 10% is good enough).

2) Gachagua I doubt will beat  impeachment - so he can only become "prime minister" in any arrangement - Mt Kenya will have to contend with Uhuru/Muhoho - and Merus & Embu - may well go with Kindiki - if he is retain as DP and they see 2032 as their chance.

Raila & ODM coming to UDA has woken up Mt Kenya east on possibility of the thing going if they are not careful.

3) Matiangi (5%) - cannot lead anything - Luhyas getting DPORK will not unite them - coz hapo you're playing 2037. Then you have little matter of losing Kambas in such arrangement to Ruto.

The way I see we have 3 Big camps.
Ruto at 35%
Raila at 35%
Kikuyu (Headless) at 20%

Ruto-Raila makes election a waste of time.
If Ruto loses Raila - he will need Kalonzo.

Raila will only run if Mt kenya backs him

1) WSR plans to run on an ODM ticket once the merger is complete.

We are slow-marching into an ODM-UDA coalition.  But the clueless opposition is still waiting for Rao to abandon UDA. 

2) This new coalition is slowly shifting the narrative from economics to tribal math - building up an anti Mt Kenya momentum ready for 2027


3) As such, a Gachagua ticket (whether as Prez or running mate) is a sure bet win for wsr in 2027.   Problem for the opposition is that Gachagua's ego is bigger than Mt Kenya itself.  Guy will attempt.

4) Only a Matiang'i - Luhya ticket with Mt Kenya as PM can counter this.  This breaks the western Kenya coalition and rings in the Gen Z/governance votes



Raila get PSes
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2025, 03:44:19 AM
Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 21, 2025, 10:50:09 AM

Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2025, 11:06:04 AM
I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 21, 2025, 11:36:05 AM

By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2025, 12:18:23 PM
I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 21, 2025, 01:25:41 PM

You predictions since 2017 have been null and void because simple your premises is not tied to facts hence always leading to wrong conclusion.

Trump 2024 is an example
Raila AUC is an example

Now the fact on ground is Ruto is so unpopular due to economy and not only , another fact is he lost Mt Kenya, another fact is substantial number of Raila supporters have refused to board, another fact is part of Western are now excited with Natembeya. Kisii for once are united against Ruto Raila  you call that vote 500k should be approaching 1M come 2027.
You also think by bugging Raila thats the solution to Rutos win . Nop first Raila probabilty of Running is next to One , secondly just like when Uhuru supported Raila , if Raila supports Ruto a big chunk of his support base with be confused and it will result in suppressing voter turnout . You saw in 2022 at 65% from highs of “98%” in 2007. And thats when he stood as a candidate how about when is is just supporting .

I would tell you for free , its advantageous for Ruto to know his opponents earlier in that he can politically deal with them . He doesnt know if Raila is running or not , He doesnt know the No 1 contender thats why he is still so unpopular . This is a 2013 scenario and how Raila was beaten , they didnt know who they would be vying against they thought Not another Mt Kenya Candidate , Not guys in ICC boggled down by cases and constitution was on their side . So they went after Kalonzo he became watermelon and another Kibaki , a Judas Iscariot , a Moi student . So delusional they were like you that the celebrated when Ruto and Uhuru were forcefully resigned from Cabinet .
Mudavadi who was closest to them was tricked as he saw the gap to run thus further dividing ODM , same thing is happening albeit in different scenario . Then the courts came to UhuRutos aid they ruled  in  their favor , then elections were postponed from Dec 2012 to Dec 2013 , Raila couldnt counter the wave of the excitement , even with IEBC and Courts in their side they were beat hands down.

A replica is happening , once the courts decide about NADCA / Referendum and Gachaguas impeachment is anulled at the 11 hour the excitement /aura  that will be there will be so big akin to 2013 /2002 , even if its the opposite NADCA is taken to referendum Ruto will be exposed , they try pushing it through the parliament and the courts stay out that will be a revolution hands down . If Gachaguas impeachment is stayed he anoints a presidential candidate who will win there after.

Its a Zerosum for Ruto he is out whatever he tries , however having witnessed how he took his losses in 2002 Moi project election which he is accused of misleading Moi and 2010 Referendum and 2021 BBI loss in Counties and Parliament , he is always gracious and regroups , he will exit peacefully and embark on 2032 journey .

However if the likes of you convice him to rig and take the violence route , he will be back to Hague and will be jailed this time around as his case is still open . When you see Martha Karua warning him means they are  just waiting for the right time .

All said and done 2027 is pivotal in Kenyas history , It will be a first time President is not being re-elected or first time immediate former president is locked up in Hague as he awaits his case to proceed . You will retire from Nipate




I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2025, 02:14:39 PM
Lots of verbiage.
You wanted to say this.
I am praying that Gachagua will beat impeachment and run and win :) - joke of the century.
If he doesn't win - he will endorse the winner :)

Dude you're running desperate and literally out of your mind.


You predictions since 2017 have been null and void because simple your premises is not tied to facts hence always leading to wrong conclusion.

Trump 2024 is an example
Raila AUC is an example

Now the fact on ground is Ruto is so unpopular due to economy and not only , another fact is he lost Mt Kenya, another fact is substantial number of Raila supporters have refused to board, another fact is part of Western are now excited with Natembeya. Kisii for once are united against Ruto Raila  you call that vote 500k should be approaching 1M come 2027.
You also think by bugging Raila thats the solution to Rutos win . Nop first Raila probabilty of Running is next to One , secondly just like when Uhuru supported Raila , if Raila supports Ruto a big chunk of his support base with be confused and it will result in suppressing voter turnout . You saw in 2022 at 65% from highs of “98%” in 2007. And thats when he stood as a candidate how about when is is just supporting .

I would tell you for free , its advantageous for Ruto to know his opponents earlier in that he can politically deal with them . He doesnt know if Raila is running or not , He doesnt know the No 1 contender thats why he is still so unpopular . This is a 2013 scenario and how Raila was beaten , they didnt know who they would be vying against they thought Not another Mt Kenya Candidate , Not guys in ICC boggled down by cases and constitution was on their side . So they went after Kalonzo he became watermelon and another Kibaki , a Judas Iscariot , a Moi student . So delusional they were like you that the celebrated when Ruto and Uhuru were forcefully resigned from Cabinet .
Mudavadi who was closest to them was tricked as he saw the gap to run thus further dividing ODM , same thing is happening albeit in different scenario . Then the courts came to UhuRutos aid they ruled  in  their favor , then elections were postponed from Dec 2012 to Dec 2013 , Raila couldnt counter the wave of the excitement , even with IEBC and Courts in their side they were beat hands down.

A replica is happening , once the courts decide about NADCA / Referendum and Gachaguas impeachment is anulled at the 11 hour the excitement /aura  that will be there will be so big akin to 2013 /2002 , even if its the opposite NADCA is taken to referendum Ruto will be exposed , they try pushing it through the parliament and the courts stay out that will be a revolution hands down . If Gachaguas impeachment is stayed he anoints a presidential candidate who will win there after.

Its a Zerosum for Ruto he is out whatever he tries , however having witnessed how he took his losses in 2002 Moi project election which he is accused of misleading Moi and 2010 Referendum and 2021 BBI loss in Counties and Parliament , he is always gracious and regroups , he will exit peacefully and embark on 2032 journey .

However if the likes of you convice him to rig and take the violence route , he will be back to Hague and will be jailed this time around as his case is still open . When you see Martha Karua warning him means they are  just waiting for the right time .

All said and done 2027 is pivotal in Kenyas history , It will be a first time President is not being re-elected or first time immediate former president is locked up in Hague as he awaits his case to proceed . You will retire from Nipate




I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 21, 2025, 02:25:51 PM


You were Gachaguas Supporter , I was not but fact remains if he beats Impeachment he will be a force to reckon , If he doesnt whoever he endorses will be a force to reckon . A fact you are trying to belittle .
Same like many Raila supporters belittled Uhuru in 2013 and Ruto in 2022. And Moi supporters belittled Kibaki in 2002
As everyday goes by you sound more and more like ODMers . You will find yourself in the same losing side like they have been since 2007 .
And try to Rig as you were saying Ruto will be in Hague or have you changed your mind about Riging ?


Lots of verbiage.
You wanted to say this.
I am praying that Gachagua will beat impeachment and run and win :) - joke of the century.
If he doesn't win - he will endorse the winner :)

Dude you're running desperate and literally out of your mind.


You predictions since 2017 have been null and void because simple your premises is not tied to facts hence always leading to wrong conclusion.

Trump 2024 is an example
Raila AUC is an example

Now the fact on ground is Ruto is so unpopular due to economy and not only , another fact is he lost Mt Kenya, another fact is substantial number of Raila supporters have refused to board, another fact is part of Western are now excited with Natembeya. Kisii for once are united against Ruto Raila  you call that vote 500k should be approaching 1M come 2027.
You also think by bugging Raila thats the solution to Rutos win . Nop first Raila probabilty of Running is next to One , secondly just like when Uhuru supported Raila , if Raila supports Ruto a big chunk of his support base with be confused and it will result in suppressing voter turnout . You saw in 2022 at 65% from highs of “98%” in 2007. And thats when he stood as a candidate how about when is is just supporting .

I would tell you for free , its advantageous for Ruto to know his opponents earlier in that he can politically deal with them . He doesnt know if Raila is running or not , He doesnt know the No 1 contender thats why he is still so unpopular . This is a 2013 scenario and how Raila was beaten , they didnt know who they would be vying against they thought Not another Mt Kenya Candidate , Not guys in ICC boggled down by cases and constitution was on their side . So they went after Kalonzo he became watermelon and another Kibaki , a Judas Iscariot , a Moi student . So delusional they were like you that the celebrated when Ruto and Uhuru were forcefully resigned from Cabinet .
Mudavadi who was closest to them was tricked as he saw the gap to run thus further dividing ODM , same thing is happening albeit in different scenario . Then the courts came to UhuRutos aid they ruled  in  their favor , then elections were postponed from Dec 2012 to Dec 2013 , Raila couldnt counter the wave of the excitement , even with IEBC and Courts in their side they were beat hands down.

A replica is happening , once the courts decide about NADCA / Referendum and Gachaguas impeachment is anulled at the 11 hour the excitement /aura  that will be there will be so big akin to 2013 /2002 , even if its the opposite NADCA is taken to referendum Ruto will be exposed , they try pushing it through the parliament and the courts stay out that will be a revolution hands down . If Gachaguas impeachment is stayed he anoints a presidential candidate who will win there after.

Its a Zerosum for Ruto he is out whatever he tries , however having witnessed how he took his losses in 2002 Moi project election which he is accused of misleading Moi and 2010 Referendum and 2021 BBI loss in Counties and Parliament , he is always gracious and regroups , he will exit peacefully and embark on 2032 journey .

However if the likes of you convice him to rig and take the violence route , he will be back to Hague and will be jailed this time around as his case is still open . When you see Martha Karua warning him means they are  just waiting for the right time .

All said and done 2027 is pivotal in Kenyas history , It will be a first time President is not being re-elected or first time immediate former president is locked up in Hague as he awaits his case to proceed . You will retire from Nipate




I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2025, 02:56:55 PM
I predicted Gachagua would be DPORK.
And I foresaw his downfall.

Ruto will only need to rig if Raila runs.

And Ruto will rig if he needs to - and nothing will happen to him - because he has security and million of warriors.

You'll cry like Moi era indoors.



You were Gachaguas Supporter , I was not but fact remains if he beats Impeachment he will be a force to reckon , If he doesnt whoever he endorses will be a force to reckon . A fact you are trying to belittle .
Same like many Raila supporters belittled Uhuru in 2013 and Ruto in 2022. And Moi supporters belittled Kibaki in 2002
As everyday goes by you sound more and more like ODMers . You will find yourself in the same losing side like they have been since 2007 .
And try to Rig as you were saying Ruto will be in Hague or have you changed your mind about Riging ?


Lots of verbiage.
You wanted to say this.
I am praying that Gachagua will beat impeachment and run and win :) - joke of the century.
If he doesn't win - he will endorse the winner :)

Dude you're running desperate and literally out of your mind.


You predictions since 2017 have been null and void because simple your premises is not tied to facts hence always leading to wrong conclusion.

Trump 2024 is an example
Raila AUC is an example

Now the fact on ground is Ruto is so unpopular due to economy and not only , another fact is he lost Mt Kenya, another fact is substantial number of Raila supporters have refused to board, another fact is part of Western are now excited with Natembeya. Kisii for once are united against Ruto Raila  you call that vote 500k should be approaching 1M come 2027.
You also think by bugging Raila thats the solution to Rutos win . Nop first Raila probabilty of Running is next to One , secondly just like when Uhuru supported Raila , if Raila supports Ruto a big chunk of his support base with be confused and it will result in suppressing voter turnout . You saw in 2022 at 65% from highs of “98%” in 2007. And thats when he stood as a candidate how about when is is just supporting .

I would tell you for free , its advantageous for Ruto to know his opponents earlier in that he can politically deal with them . He doesnt know if Raila is running or not , He doesnt know the No 1 contender thats why he is still so unpopular . This is a 2013 scenario and how Raila was beaten , they didnt know who they would be vying against they thought Not another Mt Kenya Candidate , Not guys in ICC boggled down by cases and constitution was on their side . So they went after Kalonzo he became watermelon and another Kibaki , a Judas Iscariot , a Moi student . So delusional they were like you that the celebrated when Ruto and Uhuru were forcefully resigned from Cabinet .
Mudavadi who was closest to them was tricked as he saw the gap to run thus further dividing ODM , same thing is happening albeit in different scenario . Then the courts came to UhuRutos aid they ruled  in  their favor , then elections were postponed from Dec 2012 to Dec 2013 , Raila couldnt counter the wave of the excitement , even with IEBC and Courts in their side they were beat hands down.

A replica is happening , once the courts decide about NADCA / Referendum and Gachaguas impeachment is anulled at the 11 hour the excitement /aura  that will be there will be so big akin to 2013 /2002 , even if its the opposite NADCA is taken to referendum Ruto will be exposed , they try pushing it through the parliament and the courts stay out that will be a revolution hands down . If Gachaguas impeachment is stayed he anoints a presidential candidate who will win there after.

Its a Zerosum for Ruto he is out whatever he tries , however having witnessed how he took his losses in 2002 Moi project election which he is accused of misleading Moi and 2010 Referendum and 2021 BBI loss in Counties and Parliament , he is always gracious and regroups , he will exit peacefully and embark on 2032 journey .

However if the likes of you convice him to rig and take the violence route , he will be back to Hague and will be jailed this time around as his case is still open . When you see Martha Karua warning him means they are  just waiting for the right time .

All said and done 2027 is pivotal in Kenyas history , It will be a first time President is not being re-elected or first time immediate former president is locked up in Hague as he awaits his case to proceed . You will retire from Nipate




I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 21, 2025, 03:11:24 PM
How will he Rig if he will be No 3 . For him to Rig actually he requires Raila support so as to top up in Raila strongholds as Turn out would have dwindled , However this will send him to Hague coz Rigging in the current constitution and IEBC laws with Media and Social media in action is next to impossible ask Raila 2022 elections , He will find himself in Hague . Military /Security just like 2007 and 2022 will be divided in involvement of Rigging .So called warriors will be the ones taking Ruto to Hague …

I predicted Gachagua would be DPORK.
And I foresaw his downfall.

Ruto will only need to rig if Raila runs.

And Ruto will rig if he needs to - and nothing will happen to him - because he has security and million of warriors.

You'll cry like Moi era indoors.



You were Gachaguas Supporter , I was not but fact remains if he beats Impeachment he will be a force to reckon , If he doesnt whoever he endorses will be a force to reckon . A fact you are trying to belittle .
Same like many Raila supporters belittled Uhuru in 2013 and Ruto in 2022. And Moi supporters belittled Kibaki in 2002
As everyday goes by you sound more and more like ODMers . You will find yourself in the same losing side like they have been since 2007 .
And try to Rig as you were saying Ruto will be in Hague or have you changed your mind about Riging ?


Lots of verbiage.
You wanted to say this.
I am praying that Gachagua will beat impeachment and run and win :) - joke of the century.
If he doesn't win - he will endorse the winner :)

Dude you're running desperate and literally out of your mind.


You predictions since 2017 have been null and void because simple your premises is not tied to facts hence always leading to wrong conclusion.

Trump 2024 is an example
Raila AUC is an example

Now the fact on ground is Ruto is so unpopular due to economy and not only , another fact is he lost Mt Kenya, another fact is substantial number of Raila supporters have refused to board, another fact is part of Western are now excited with Natembeya. Kisii for once are united against Ruto Raila  you call that vote 500k should be approaching 1M come 2027.
You also think by bugging Raila thats the solution to Rutos win . Nop first Raila probabilty of Running is next to One , secondly just like when Uhuru supported Raila , if Raila supports Ruto a big chunk of his support base with be confused and it will result in suppressing voter turnout . You saw in 2022 at 65% from highs of “98%” in 2007. And thats when he stood as a candidate how about when is is just supporting .

I would tell you for free , its advantageous for Ruto to know his opponents earlier in that he can politically deal with them . He doesnt know if Raila is running or not , He doesnt know the No 1 contender thats why he is still so unpopular . This is a 2013 scenario and how Raila was beaten , they didnt know who they would be vying against they thought Not another Mt Kenya Candidate , Not guys in ICC boggled down by cases and constitution was on their side . So they went after Kalonzo he became watermelon and another Kibaki , a Judas Iscariot , a Moi student . So delusional they were like you that the celebrated when Ruto and Uhuru were forcefully resigned from Cabinet .
Mudavadi who was closest to them was tricked as he saw the gap to run thus further dividing ODM , same thing is happening albeit in different scenario . Then the courts came to UhuRutos aid they ruled  in  their favor , then elections were postponed from Dec 2012 to Dec 2013 , Raila couldnt counter the wave of the excitement , even with IEBC and Courts in their side they were beat hands down.

A replica is happening , once the courts decide about NADCA / Referendum and Gachaguas impeachment is anulled at the 11 hour the excitement /aura  that will be there will be so big akin to 2013 /2002 , even if its the opposite NADCA is taken to referendum Ruto will be exposed , they try pushing it through the parliament and the courts stay out that will be a revolution hands down . If Gachaguas impeachment is stayed he anoints a presidential candidate who will win there after.

Its a Zerosum for Ruto he is out whatever he tries , however having witnessed how he took his losses in 2002 Moi project election which he is accused of misleading Moi and 2010 Referendum and 2021 BBI loss in Counties and Parliament , he is always gracious and regroups , he will exit peacefully and embark on 2032 journey .

However if the likes of you convice him to rig and take the violence route , he will be back to Hague and will be jailed this time around as his case is still open . When you see Martha Karua warning him means they are  just waiting for the right time .

All said and done 2027 is pivotal in Kenyas history , It will be a first time President is not being re-elected or first time immediate former president is locked up in Hague as he awaits his case to proceed . You will retire from Nipate




I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2025, 04:20:05 PM
No 3 is your own madness.
Ruto has strong national support.
Incumbent running for election is VERY HARD to remove.
Even silly Kibaki who was hiding in statehouse was hard.
How will he Rig if he will be No 3 . For him to Rig actually he requires Raila support so as to top up in Raila strongholds as Turn out would have dwindled , However this will send him to Hague coz Rigging in the current constitution and IEBC laws with Media and Social media in action is next to impossible ask Raila 2022 elections , He will find himself in Hague . Military /Security just like 2007 and 2022 will be divided in involvement of Rigging .So called warriors will be the ones taking Ruto to Hague …
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 21, 2025, 04:22:53 PM
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….

No 3 is your own madness.
Ruto has strong national support.
Incumbent running for election is VERY HARD to remove.
Even silly Kibaki who was hiding in statehouse was hard.
How will he Rig if he will be No 3 . For him to Rig actually he requires Raila support so as to top up in Raila strongholds as Turn out would have dwindled , However this will send him to Hague coz Rigging in the current constitution and IEBC laws with Media and Social media in action is next to impossible ask Raila 2022 elections , He will find himself in Hague . Military /Security just like 2007 and 2022 will be divided in involvement of Rigging .So called warriors will be the ones taking Ruto to Hague …
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2025, 05:14:52 PM
Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 21, 2025, 05:27:20 PM


Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 22, 2025, 06:46:22 AM
13 ps to Raila. 7 were new. https://x.com/citizentvkenya/status/1903012456961654963?t=suir6eVyDCiyeuVe-mgJbA&s=19
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 22, 2025, 06:48:32 AM


Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Wamunyoro is sick joke. Kalonzo too. Matiangi is terrible neophyte. Only Raila can threaten Ruto. That should be Ruto focus
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 22, 2025, 10:39:08 AM
Ruto decided not axe Riggy PS - at least at one go
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/gachagua-hand-in-saving-mt-kenya-css-pss-from-being-fired--4974528#story
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 22, 2025, 11:39:32 AM

Gachagua saved the My Kenya PSs and Gachagua saved  Martha Koome and by extension Supreme Court Judges .
Single handedly you may say without so called elected MPs .
This goes to tell you one thing . Ruto has started listening to NIS . Ofcourse he cant listen to anyone even the MPs are adviced by Ruto and not the otherway around. However its too late .
After the Mt Kenya trip he might as well go after them . Especially Supreme Court there is bad blood between them , I dont forsee any Court case sponsored by Ruto going through …..

Ruto decided not axe Riggy PS - at least at one go
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/gachagua-hand-in-saving-mt-kenya-css-pss-from-being-fired--4974528#story
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 22, 2025, 12:01:07 PM
As was Kibaki when he took on head to head Mois Project and KANU in 2002
So was Uhuru when he took on Raila in 2013
So was Ruto when he took on Raila with Govt Machinery in 2022.



Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Wamunyoro is sick joke. Kalonzo too. Matiangi is terrible neophyte. Only Raila can threaten Ruto. That should be Ruto focus
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 22, 2025, 02:12:32 PM
Well narrative of luos replacing kikuyus is what stopped them. Ruto has no problem with supreme court.
Gachagua saved the My Kenya PSs and Gachagua saved  Martha Koome and by extension Supreme Court Judges .
Single handedly you may say without so called elected MPs .
This goes to tell you one thing . Ruto has started listening to NIS . Ofcourse he cant listen to anyone even the MPs are adviced by Ruto and not the otherway around. However its too late .
After the Mt Kenya trip he might as well go after them . Especially Supreme Court there is bad blood between them , I dont forsee any Court case sponsored by Ruto going through …..

Ruto decided not axe Riggy PS - at least at one go
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/gachagua-hand-in-saving-mt-kenya-css-pss-from-being-fired--4974528#story
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 22, 2025, 02:13:53 PM
Kibaki had run and come very close in 1997 - 3rd in 1992.
Uhuru had run and score 33% in 2002.
Ruto had overseen 33% No referendum - won 3 elections with Uhuru.

None of these jokers have anything of that experience to threaten Ruto

As was Kibaki when he took on head to head Mois Project and KANU in 2002
So was Uhuru when he took on Raila in 2013
So was Ruto when he took on Raila with Govt Machinery in 2022.



Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Wamunyoro is sick joke. Kalonzo too. Matiangi is terrible neophyte. Only Raila can threaten Ruto. That should be Ruto focus
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 22, 2025, 02:53:38 PM
And Gachagua was the sole voice agitating for their survival
Ruto wants to do away with Supreme Court .



Well narrative of luos replacing kikuyus is what stopped them. Ruto has no problem with supreme court.
Gachagua saved the My Kenya PSs and Gachagua saved  Martha Koome and by extension Supreme Court Judges .
Single handedly you may say without so called elected MPs .
This goes to tell you one thing . Ruto has started listening to NIS . Ofcourse he cant listen to anyone even the MPs are adviced by Ruto and not the otherway around. However its too late .
After the Mt Kenya trip he might as well go after them . Especially Supreme Court there is bad blood between them , I dont forsee any Court case sponsored by Ruto going through …..

Ruto decided not axe Riggy PS - at least at one go
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/gachagua-hand-in-saving-mt-kenya-css-pss-from-being-fired--4974528#story
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 22, 2025, 03:08:07 PM

Nothing in 90s was credible , Chesoni in 92 as Electoral commission head was Mois stooge He aided Moi in Rigging Matiba , Moi Rigged Kibaki in 97 you gave a testimony how you were involved from your village .
2002 was unriggable due to difference between winner and looser .
So you cant compare 90s election with current , Ruto will be No 3 at that position you cant rig , reason he wants Railas support to have a margin of rigging . It wont work with current electral laws , media , social media and the new constitution . If he tries direct express to Hague . Already evidence is being taken .

Kibaki had run and come very close in 1997 - 3rd in 1992.
Uhuru had run and score 33% in 2002.
Ruto had overseen 33% No referendum - won 3 elections with Uhuru.

None of these jokers have anything of that experience to threaten Ruto

As was Kibaki when he took on head to head Mois Project and KANU in 2002
So was Uhuru when he took on Raila in 2013
So was Ruto when he took on Raila with Govt Machinery in 2022.



Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Wamunyoro is sick joke. Kalonzo too. Matiangi is terrible neophyte. Only Raila can threaten Ruto. That should be Ruto focus
Title: Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
Post by: RV Pundit on March 23, 2025, 09:50:54 AM
2002 was simple good kikuyu v bad kikuyu elections.
The stakes were not high.
Ruto will do whatever it takes to win.
You take as much evidence to ICC mapema.


Nothing in 90s was credible , Chesoni in 92 as Electoral commission head was Mois stooge He aided Moi in Rigging Matiba , Moi Rigged Kibaki in 97 you gave a testimony how you were involved from your village .
2002 was unriggable due to difference between winner and looser .
So you cant compare 90s election with current , Ruto will be No 3 at that position you cant rig , reason he wants Railas support to have a margin of rigging . It wont work with current electral laws , media , social media and the new constitution . If he tries direct express to Hague . Already evidence is being taken .

Kibaki had run and come very close in 1997 - 3rd in 1992.
Uhuru had run and score 33% in 2002.
Ruto had overseen 33% No referendum - won 3 elections with Uhuru.

None of these jokers have anything of that experience to threaten Ruto

As was Kibaki when he took on head to head Mois Project and KANU in 2002
So was Uhuru when he took on Raila in 2013
So was Ruto when he took on Raila with Govt Machinery in 2022.



Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Wamunyoro is sick joke. Kalonzo too. Matiangi is terrible neophyte. Only Raila can threaten Ruto. That should be Ruto focus