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Title: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 15, 2024, 01:55:42 PM
The day he came out to demand IEBC reinstatement, he was meeting the president in the wee hours of the night. Uhuru handshake seems to have rattled many!
https://www.facebook.com/reel/942573267756488
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Pundit on December 15, 2024, 01:57:52 PM
He'd be a fool to run in 2027 and get wasted.
He should aim to replace Kindiki in 2027 as deputy president.
Kindiki is still 'repleacable'
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 15, 2024, 02:16:26 PM
He'd be a fool to run in 2027 and get wasted.
He should aim to replace Kindiki in 2027 as deputy president.
Kindiki is still 'repleacable'
If Raila runs, Muhoho may replace Kindiki or take the treasury from Mbadi.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 15, 2024, 05:06:30 PM
Hallucinating as usual and if Kalonzo joins, I will not begrudge him. He can also eat from the carcass. I hate to be the one telling this here, Ruto is going home and early. It’s so bad that if Ruto runs against Omtatah, he loses by a landslide. The Ruto hate is not actually even based on performance. There is something in his personality, lies, delivery, conmanship, charisma, swag and on top of it, he is a major piece of shit with no vision and intelligence to move Kenya foward. He is the wrong president at the wrong time, Kenyans are looking for dreamers and visionaries, China was a third world country 30yrs ago, Ruto brain cannot conceive anything bigger than cows and Unga, stomach politics. Kenyans just do not like the guy, did you see jamhuri day celebrations, they were mostly attended by police and chiefs and those idle enough left when Kasongo’s name was mentioned.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 15, 2024, 07:24:49 PM
Jomo Kenyatta….corrupt, dictatorial, tribalist but also freedom fighting hero and charismatic.
Moi…..extremely corrupt, tribalist, genocide but also charismatic and changed the education infrastructure in Kenya
Kibaki…gentleman but charisma of a door knob but also tribal, corrupt extremely intelligent and transformed the economy of Kenya. The king of feel good economics.
Uhuru… corrupt but least tribal of all the previous presidents. Handshake guaranteed peace and stability. Transformed Kenyan infrastructure. He has natural charisma and swag and even though extremely wealthy, he made Kenyans feel like he was one of them.
Ruto.. very opportunistic, good politician at cooking division and marginalization, dictatorial, homicidal, zero charisma or connection with Kenyans. He lacks wisdom and vision to lead Kenya with two year on misery and nothing to show for it. He was supposed to be the bridge between the old and the new aspirations of modern day Kenya. He probably wishes that he can do so but his IQ fails him. Kenyans never dreamt of a day when Tanzania will surpass us economically, it happened under this idiot.
Raila Odinga..never been president but he has some of all the characteristics of selfishness, corruption, tribalist, genocidal, lazy but he is a freedom fighting hero together with his father.
Next president, Law abiding, big dreamer, Kenyans are big dreamers, with the right leadership a place like Nairobi can be slum free in two years.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Georgesoros on December 15, 2024, 09:07:46 PM
Jomo Kenyatta….corrupt, dictatorial, tribalist but also freedom fighting hero and charismatic.
Moi…..extremely corrupt, tribalist, genocide but also charismatic and changed the education infrastructure in Kenya
Kibaki…gentleman but charisma of a door knob but also tribal, corrupt extremely intelligent and transformed the economy of Kenya. The king of feel good economics.
Uhuru… corrupt but least tribal of all the previous presidents. Handshake guaranteed peace and stability. Transformed Kenyan infrastructure. He has natural charisma and swag and even though extremely wealthy, he made Kenyans feel like he was one of them.
Ruto.. very opportunistic, good politician at cooking division and marginalization, dictatorial, homicidal, zero charisma or connection with Kenyans. He lacks wisdom and vision to lead Kenya with two year on misery and nothing to show for it. He was supposed to be the bridge between the old and the new aspirations of modern day Kenya. He probably wishes that he can do so but his IQ fails him. Kenyans never dreamt of a day when Tanzania will surpass us economically, it happened under this idiot.
Raila Odinga..never been president but he has some of all the characteristics of selfishness, corruption, tribalist, genocidal, lazy but he is a freedom fighting hero together with his father.
Next president, Law abiding, big dreamer, Kenyans are big dreamers, with the right leadership a place like Nairobi can be slum free in two years.
Good analysis.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 15, 2024, 09:13:53 PM
This is Kalonzo yesterday.. https://x.com/nationafrica/status/1868255177288888483?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 15, 2024, 10:50:18 PM
Jomo Kenyatta….corrupt, dictatorial, tribalist but also freedom fighting hero and charismatic.
Moi…..extremely corrupt, tribalist, genocide but also charismatic and changed the education infrastructure in Kenya
Kibaki…gentleman but charisma of a door knob but also tribal, corrupt extremely intelligent and transformed the economy of Kenya. The king of feel good economics.
Uhuru… corrupt but least tribal of all the previous presidents. Handshake guaranteed peace and stability. Transformed Kenyan infrastructure. He has natural charisma and swag and even though extremely wealthy, he made Kenyans feel like he was one of them.
Ruto.. very opportunistic, good politician at cooking division and marginalization, dictatorial, homicidal, zero charisma or connection with Kenyans. He lacks wisdom and vision to lead Kenya with two year on misery and nothing to show for it. He was supposed to be the bridge between the old and the new aspirations of modern day Kenya. He probably wishes that he can do so but his IQ fails him. Kenyans never dreamt of a day when Tanzania will surpass us economically, it happened under this idiot.
Raila Odinga..never been president but he has some of all the characteristics of selfishness, corruption, tribalist, genocidal, lazy but he is a freedom fighting hero together with his father.
Next president, Law abiding, big dreamer, Kenyans are big dreamers, with the right leadership a place like Nairobi can be slum free in two years.
State facts; Ruto has been president for 18 months, given 90 days of transition from one president to another. Let's see how his record will stack when he finishes 10 years like the rest. I'd say Kibaki was the worst of all, having stolen the election that led to the slaughter of about 6K Kenyans and the displacement of about 600K Kenyans that created the human disaster that is still affecting thousands until today. Because of tribalism, Kikuyu elites and leaders have buried Kibaki's worst legacy. The question is, what are you doing about it? There are about 2000 homeless Kenyans still from election theft in 2024. My credit card is charged $120, going to support the feeding of KIBAKI's IDPs going into the 10th year. I have donated over a million so far.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 16, 2024, 03:41:12 AM
He is not going to have 10yrs. Kibaki transformed things despite the sheer militarism of Kalenjins and Luos running riot everywhere. Ruto inherited a peaceful country with good infrastructure ready for takeoff but run it down with incompetence, cronyism, greed.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 16, 2024, 04:07:53 AM
Gachagua said that the Uhuru/Raila regime stole everything, and when they came in, ONLY 11 million shillings were in the central bank.  In fact, when Ruto was getting elected, there was no fuel in the country and negative dollar reserves with 280 unga and 170 shillings to a dollar. Contrast that to 20 months later. Kenya has over $10 billion in reserves, more than any African country. Fuel prices dropping, food dropping, shilling stronger than ever! Watch news from two years ago and see how Kenya was in the dark. All road constructions halted; now they are back to construction! Unga in my village is 70shillings like it is in the 90s all over again!
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Pundit on December 16, 2024, 08:48:10 AM
Outside Kikuyus - nobody takes the Gachagua moron seriously. And soon outside Nyeri. He is unashamed tribalist. Ruto and team should not dignify him with a response. Just call him a tribalist and move on.
Gachagua said that the Uhuru/Raila regime stole everything, and when they came in, ONLY 11 million shillings were in the central bank.  In fact, when Ruto was getting elected, there was no fuel in the country and negative dollar reserves with 280 unga and 170 shillings to a dollar. Contrast that to 20 months later. Kenya has over $10 billion in reserves, more than any African country. Fuel prices dropping, food dropping, shilling stronger than ever! Watch news from two years ago and see how Kenya was in the dark. All road constructions halted; now they are back to construction! Unga in my village is 70shillings like it is in the 90s all over again!
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: lelewela on December 16, 2024, 10:34:34 AM
If Omtatah gets some Uhuru & Railas backing, he will be in statehouse early on 9th August. I will campaign for him, if i see he has enough backing.

 This is not because Ruto underperformed but the prevailing economic situation on the ground are against the man in power now, maybe if the economy improves in the next 1 year people will not care.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 16, 2024, 11:13:41 AM
If Omtatah gets some Uhuru & Railas backing, he will be in statehouse early on 9th August. I will campaign for him, if i see he has enough backing.

 This is not because Ruto underperformed but the prevailing economic situation on the ground are against the man in power now, maybe if the economy improves in the next 1 year people will not care.
Okiyah would not survive 1 year in power with Okuyu warthogs like Wanjigi funding obstruction. They will paint the short man as corrupt, non-performer, then arrange a coup in the name of Gen Z while funding social media loudmouths to spread misinformation online about him.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: sema on December 17, 2024, 07:09:12 AM
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but the prevailing economic situation on the ground

Why aren't rv heavy hitter and rv pundit accepting this reality? A majority of kenyans cannot be all wrong.

A majority of kenyans are saying they have no money. no cash! things are TERRIBLE ECONOMICALLY.

Even Ndii can't help ruto out of this thing.

Ruto just better not rig in 2027 otherwise, with the anger levels there, the country will burn worse than 2007
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Pundit on December 17, 2024, 09:42:19 AM
There is no day people will say kuna pesa.
Ruto has no opponent in 2027.
Kalonzo huyu ni mtu bure
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but the prevailing economic situation on the ground

Why aren't rv heavy hitter and rv pundit accepting this reality? A majority of kenyans cannot be all wrong.

A majority of kenyans are saying they have no money. no cash! things are TERRIBLE ECONOMICALLY.

Even Ndii can't help ruto out of this thing.

Ruto just better not rig in 2027 otherwise, with the anger levels there, the country will burn worse than 2007
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Kadudu on December 17, 2024, 10:36:38 AM
That such a weak politician without any musimamo like Kalonzo is being considered as the main opponent of Ruto does not augar well for Ruto.

There is no day people will say kuna pesa.
Ruto has no opponent in 2027.
Kalonzo huyu ni mtu bure
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Pundit on December 17, 2024, 11:16:38 AM
It the best you got.
Unless you bring back Raila.
Then Ruto will start sweating.
You cannot hate both Ruto and Raila like Mt Kenya are doing.
Hiyo ni urogi
That such a weak politician without any musimamo like Kalonzo is being considered as the main opponent of Ruto does not augar well for Ruto.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 17, 2024, 05:25:21 PM
The main opposition to Ruto and Raila are Kenyans. The Kenya you keep dreaming about is long gone. Ruto cannot win 2027 election even if he runs against a tree post. As for Raila, he was told by the youth to sit and let them fight this government, he did what he does, saw an opportunity to join Ruto to eat and dance on the young people graves. Raila has gone from a beloved politician to one of the most hated people in Kenya. Raila would be sleep walking to state house right now in 2027. As thing stand now, he will at best be second in the first round, Ruto will be third. I know they are both thinking of unleashing violence, bribery, rigging etc it will not work this time, Kenyans will make the country ungovernable, go after their businesses, let see what they can do with ashes. Kenyans want change, it may take more than the ballot this time, cremation. Wacheni hio Ujinga. Wajinga Wameisha Kenya.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Pundit on December 18, 2024, 01:04:34 PM
Delusion.
The main opposition to Ruto and Raila are Kenyans. The Kenya you keep dreaming about is long gone. Ruto cannot win 2027 election even if he runs against a tree post. As for Raila, he was told by the youth to sit and let them fight this government, he did what he does, saw an opportunity to join Ruto to eat and dance on the young people graves. Raila has gone from a beloved politician to one of the most hated people in Kenya. Raila would be sleep walking to state house right now in 2027. As thing stand now, he will at best be second in the first round, Ruto will be third. I know they are both thinking of unleashing violence, bribery, rigging etc it will not work this time, Kenyans will make the country ungovernable, go after their businesses, let see what they can do with ashes. Kenyans want change, it may take more than the ballot this time, cremation. Wacheni hio Ujinga. Wajinga Wameisha Kenya.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 18, 2024, 04:16:50 PM
You are the ones who are delusional, ati Kalonzo bringing two million Kambas to Ruto. Kwani Ruto ni mungu or Kambas are like cassava to be put in a basket and delivered to Ruto? This language actually comes from Moi era, it’s annoying and Kenyans are not going back there. All my sources are telling me that most Luhyas and Luos with common sense have actually refused to board the Raila shenanigans, if Raila doesn’t win AU and runs, he will have a hard time recreating his former base, that train left a long time ago.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Kadudu on December 19, 2024, 10:53:59 AM
Leave Pundit to continue being in illusion. Even an oppurtunist like Kalonzo will not jump onto Ruto's sinking ship. He knows he can get bigger things by just staying out.

You are the ones who are delusional, ati Kalonzo bringing two million Kambas to Ruto. Kwani Ruto ni mungu or Kambas are like cassava to be put in a basket and delivered to Ruto? This language actually comes from Moi era, it’s annoying and Kenyans are not going back there. All my sources are telling me that most Luhyas and Luos with common sense have actually refused to board the Raila shenanigans, if Raila doesn’t win AU and runs, he will have a hard time recreating his former base, that train left a long time ago.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Pundit on December 19, 2024, 12:55:58 PM
He will be 20yrs waiting for big things. And you have been opposition almost all your life. You always support and elect loosers. No wonder you have turned into a mountain of salt.

Leave Pundit to continue being in illusion. Even an oppurtunist like Kalonzo will not jump onto Ruto's sinking ship. He knows he can get bigger things by just staying out.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: audacityofhope on December 19, 2024, 01:51:17 PM
And winning has exposed your "winner" as a silhouette with multiple new names. The latest unflattering name starts with a "K". Buying a PhX was the easy part. Zamunda had never had President with credentials beyond Masters (Kibs of London School of economics) but looking around at the sheer incompetence laid out for all Zamundans to see, you wonder who really had the least education. Backup your capacity with the Intelligence God has given you. Buying what you don't have doesn't cut it. And here you are calling people losers. Winners upsiI esh

He will be 20yrs waiting for big things. And you have been opposition almost all your life. You always support and elect loosers. No wonder you have turned into a mountain of salt.

Leave Pundit to continue being in illusion. Even an oppurtunist like Kalonzo will not jump onto Ruto's sinking ship. He knows he can get bigger things by just staying out.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Pundit on December 19, 2024, 01:54:33 PM
Kumbe Kumbe, part of being in gov or position of leadership, is to have your type making cartoons and insulting those in leadership; it part of your coping mechanism.

Ruto will be in statehouse till 2032.

You'll talk until you turn green but power is not  easily taken.

You have big challenge of finding a credible candidate - kama ni Kalonzo - wacha ikae.

And winning has exposed your "winner" as a silhouette with multiple new names. The latest unflattering name starts with a "K". Buying a PhX was the easy part. Zamunda had never had President with credentials beyond Masters (Kibs of London School of economics) but looking around at the sheer incompetence laid out for all Zamundans to see, you wonder who really had the least education. Backup your capacity with the Intelligence God has given you. Buying what you don't have doesn't cut it. And here you are calling people losers. Winners upsiI esh

He will be 20yrs waiting for big things. And you have been opposition almost all your life. You always support and elect loosers. No wonder you have turned into a mountain of salt.

Leave Pundit to continue being in illusion. Even an oppurtunist like Kalonzo will not jump onto Ruto's sinking ship. He knows he can get bigger things by just staying out.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: gout on December 19, 2024, 03:42:48 PM
Any opportunist can ask for positions and Ruto will go kneeling. Utter disappointment.

The eating the cake and having it modus operandi is just confusion.
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: audacityofhope on December 19, 2024, 05:10:48 PM
This is a Rutoman speaking imagine! Wueh, no one can defend the indefensible  8)
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Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Kadudu on December 19, 2024, 05:36:26 PM
Pundit cannot even see how low Ruto has bent. Never heard of a president being engaged in matters like ngombe na kunyamba. Why can he not let his appointed officials like the Agriculture CS, btw dioes the person even exist, do their job? Does he have to make all proclamations in the country?

Ruto is everywhere but nowhere. Bure kama mavi ya kuku. Now he even goes with mbuzi to Ichaweri. Not Uhuru going to Sugoi.

Btw Pundit, when is the state capture commission being formed? :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 20, 2024, 07:18:25 AM
Kalonzo took time negotiating with threats. Uhuru and Kabogo took that chance quickly. Kalonzo's only option to power is to try again as Raila's deputy in 2027 if Raila's AU bid fails, which I doubt. Uhuru spent the last few weeks calling his friends to cement Raila's position. His other option is to endorse Gachagua's candidate, as he is no longer a viable candidate. In the meantime, Oparanya, Barasa, Savula, Atwoli, Otsotsi, Mudavadi, and Wetangula have western covered to a tune of 80%. Crazy Natembeya, severely broke, Jirongo, and drag queen Wamalwa may shave off 20% as of now. From now to the end of 2026 (roughly 23 months) is securing the bag and implementing the UDA plan to fruition. Minor details to be streamlined after 2026 before elections!
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Pundit on December 20, 2024, 10:06:32 AM
Ruto is passionate and hardworking in a country of morons. I wish we had some window of dictatorship. Kagame and Museveni get stuff easily done.

Ruto might have to go do another PHD - because you want gov to DO NOTHING.

Pundit cannot even see how low Ruto has bent. Never heard of a president being engaged in matters like ngombe na kunyamba. Why can he not let his appointed officials like the Agriculture CS, btw dioes the person even exist, do their job? Does he have to make all proclamations in the country?

Ruto is everywhere but nowhere. Bure kama mavi ya kuku. Now he even goes with mbuzi to Ichaweri. Not Uhuru going to Sugoi.

Btw Pundit, when is the state capture commission being formed? :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: RV Pundit on December 20, 2024, 10:08:36 AM
Ruto has pretty much covered and sorted country except 2 areas
1) Gusii - give them 2 PSes.
2) Ukambani - leave Kalonzo to provide token opposition.
3) Kikuyus - continue with carrot and stick. Crush Gachagua. Dont let him form his party. Buy all his remaining troops. Energize Jubilee.

Luhyas, Mijikenda, Kamatusa, Somali-Borana, Meru-Embu and Luos will fall in place - that 65% of Kenya.

Kalonzo can get all Kikuyus-Kambas - end up 25-30% -max 35%.

Kalonzo took time negotiating with threats. Uhuru and Kabogo took that chance quickly. Kalonzo's only option to power is to try again as Raila's deputy in 2027 if Raila's AU bid fails, which I doubt. Uhuru spent the last few weeks calling his friends to cement Raila's position. His other option is to endorse Gachagua's candidate, as he is no longer a viable candidate. In the meantime, Oparanya, Barasa, Savula, Atwoli, Otsotsi, Mudavadi, and Wetangula have western covered to a tune of 80%. Crazy Natembeya, severely broke, Jirongo, and drag queen Wamalwa may shave off 20% as of now. From now to the end of 2026 (roughly 23 months) is securing the bag and implementing the UDA plan to fruition. Minor details to be streamlined after 2026 before elections!
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Nowayhaha on December 20, 2024, 11:42:49 AM
What Ruto is doing is akin to what Moi did in 2002 , merged KANU and NDP for New KANU split KANU Vice chair post in 4 in order to appease different regions Uhuru Mt Kenya Ngala Coast , Kalonzo Eastern and Mudavadi Western ,  and gave Raila SG .
Still they went to lose to Kibaki .
Skio la kukufa haliskii dawa they say in Swahili or better yet in English -The day the monkey is destined to die, all the trees get slippery


Pundit cannot even see how low Ruto has bent. Never heard of a president being engaged in matters like ngombe na kunyamba. Why can he not let his appointed officials like the Agriculture CS, btw dioes the person even exist, do their job? Does he have to make all proclamations in the country?

Ruto is everywhere but nowhere. Bure kama mavi ya kuku. Now he even goes with mbuzi to Ichaweri. Not Uhuru going to Sugoi.

Btw Pundit, when is the state capture commission being formed? :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Kalonzo reportedly asking for 2 CS positions and will deliver Ukambani in 2027
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 20, 2024, 11:48:58 AM
Kalenjin math, no wonder the country is going to hell. The only counting these people can do is taxpayers money which will all be recovered after the 2027 elections. When you do all your voodoo math, remove mt Kenya, Genz, Kambas, kisiis, Masai(vaccines), urbanites, most Luhyas(pissed cause Mudavadi and Watengula eat alone), Luos if Raila fails AU, we are left with Kale 1.5m votes and maybe Somali.